
Zellers is Opening More Locations in Canada Starting this June
By Ambia Staley
May 23, 2023If you're still waiting for your chance to check out a new Zellers revival location, you may see one opening up near your home in the future, because Hudson's Bay announced on May 23 that it plans to increase the store's footprint in cities across Canada.
Zellers first returned to Canada online and within select Hudson's Bay stores in late March 2023, with customers waiting in huge lineups just to get a chance to shop new products from the revived brand.
Just 2 months later, Hudson's Bay is looking for its next possible locations. Locations will initially be through a series of pop-ups within Hudson's Bay stores with the intention to open larger footprint stores within some or all of the selected locations. The first Zellers pop-up will launch at the Hudson's Bay Queen Street location in downtown Toronto this June with an additional 20 pop-ups expected to open in August.
Hudson's Bay has not released any info on where we can expect the additional locations (with the exception of the downtown Toronto pop-up). We'll update when the locations become available.
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View allOh, and that Kingsway walmart is terrible. Oddball selection, weird layout, lack of stock, no price scanners, no real checkouts and just has an odd feel to it.
Does anyone want to play the Zellers lottery to see how long it lasts?
Target failed because of a horrible launch with IT problems and an inventory control system so out of whack that the stores were running on empty while at the same time Target was having to lease extra space because its DSCs were bursting. The market for them was there, however. I firmly believe that if they had committed as long as Nordstrom in Canada, they would have been making money. Sticking it out only 18-24 months in a brand-new market while having lost the first year to a bad launch was ridiculous. (Yes, Nordstrom also failed despite patience and investment, but there are far fewer Canadian consumers at the top end of the market than the entry-level, and Canadian retailers at the upper end of the market are better at what they do than Nordstrom was probably expecting.)
I think Walmart really developed an odour during the "Extreme Couponing" era when it seems there were gc rewards for Best Drama Queen Performance at Customer Service every hour. Our Walmart had a cop car with its cherries flashing outside at all hours. They didn't invest in security, they tried to pass things onto the cops, and every WM visit was a new amazing tale. Animals!
Our WM has rehabilitated itself since. It's better to shop at but there is a certain cut-off point in quality that Target surpassed.
Target was a more couth experience with higher prices. I would see something I liked, end up visiting it regularly, noting there was no other stock & it was absolutely not moving at the price it was at. I windowshopped until liquidation. I don't know how Zellers could duplicate this experience for me without failing too.
The whole Target buzz (and subsequent failure) shows there's a market for a a better shopping experience than Walmart. Target failed not because there isn't a market for superstores, but because they sucked ass. Lol
Zellers should swoop in and try to become that higher end Walmart since they are starting from scratch.
Well, it doesn't have to compete with a Sears store at the other end of the mall anymore, so that helps, but I honestly do not get why
that Bay store has not become a clearance centre...if you've seen what a joke of a mall the Woodbine centre in Toronto has become lately.
It also surprises me that a Zellers didn't go back into Woodbine Centre to help keep that joke of a mall alive and in better condition.
The Bay has been US owned since 2006. What could the Canadian gov't do?
Did notice that the Bay has a lot of brand name and store brand baby gear on sale at endcaps facing the north wall of the store. Olli & Lime change pad covers (black and white or gray), a few crib sheets, lots of the Littles by Gluckstein sheets and change pad covers (white/grey). Some packaging has been damaged. Also some brand name feeding spoons or soothers/teethers and random gear items.
Upstairs, the HBC Stripes, menswear, luggage, kitchenwares and furniture dept (really quiet-maybe two other shoppers were there when I visited) are found. Frayed carpet near elevator got fixed but I noticed that the carpet upstairs needs cleaning. At least both escalators are working now! Last summer, the down escalator was out of service.
I bet Dollarama could do a better job.
Yes, the original Zellers had its share of poor locations. But it also had a bunch of nicer stores in major shopping malls (like Chinook Centre, Erin Mills, Kingsway) that attracted a different kind of discount shopper than the ones in Walmart. The attempt to piggyback on existing Bay locations seems to be an attempt to leverage that advantage Zellers once had with a superior kind of customer.
Walmart arrived in the mid-1990s and expanded significantly in the 2000s. Many 90s kids got married in the 2000s. Zellers holds this sliver of goodwill with 80s kids but not much else.
Immigrants to Canada increased from 200,000 per year in the 90s to over 400,000 today. Very few of those Canadians saw Zellers in a good light.
If I were Bay management and I'd taken on this experiment, I'd do it properly. Ditch the pop-up idea and commit. Convert the entire top floor of the Bay stores in the pilot to Zellers. Put in full departments with a complete assortment, like candy/grocery, electronics, housewares/plastic storage, toys, hardware, pharmacy, all the areas which aren't part of the typical Bay these days and which people remember being able to shop at Zellers.
I'd also put in the things people seem to really want, like the Zellers Restaurant and the kids' rides.
If the experiment works and the Bay floor downstairs continues to decline, you can convert the entire store to Zellers. If not, you really haven't lost anything because the Bay store was on a downward trajectory anyway and you'll probably end up closing it when the lease comes up.
The problem with just dipping your toe in the water as HBC seems to be doing at the moment, is that it satisfies nobody. The people who loved and miss Zellers visit the pop-up and say "This isn't anything close to the Zellers I remember" and the people who are new to the brand say "What's the point of this?"
Alot of their product lines were actually pretty decent, and they had a good selection of toys, housewares etc. Sure the stores were a bit of a mess at times, but never really bothered me.
Its not like the Bay was getting great foot traffic already, and Zellers certainly doesn't seem to be improving that.
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Not sure why somebody thought this was a good idea.
The 80s and 90s kids who grew up during that era don’t want to go back more than once. Let’s be honest. Kids who shopped for clothes or supplies at Zellers did so because their family was relatively poor. It’s not an experience people want to relive.
The adults who visited Zellers are now post-retirement and decreasing.
Most importantly, our demographics have changed so quickly. Our high levels of immigration from Asia means many Canadians don’t know Zellers at all.
Even if they hit Walmart prices and selection, they don’t sell center of plate items to drive traffic.
I am waiting until June/July/August when seasonal Spring & Summer merchandise gets clearance markdowns, but @ thebay.com a lot more SKUs are selling out now before they get markdowns.
Literally nothing of real interest that would make me go back.
Really not sure what they expected though. Back in the day Zellers was the size of Walmart with quite a bit of selection. Sure some of the stores were a bit run down, but there were bargains to be found. They actually had a nice line of young kids clothes that decent quality.
Looking at it now, its like a weird jysk/ikea/something combo with literally nothing that really stands out.
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I visited Hudson's Bay store #1117 at St Vital Centre (In Winnipeg) this afternoon. It looks like Zellers will open there really soon on the Second Floor It appears that Zellers has already displaced Women's Intimates, Hosiery, Sleepwear and Outerwear to the ground floor. The Second Floor at this store continues to sell Toys, Childrenswear, Housewares, Bed, Bath and Major Home Fashions. I did not pay attention to where Luggage and the HBC Stripes Shop was merchandised, but historically they were on the Second Floor.
Today was also the 1st day for Return Bear returns @ this Hudson's Bay store. Unfortunately, my returns today were made at the in-store cash register because I could not generate a Return Bear QR-code.