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View allI grinder then with 4 settings each.
I tried different pressure on the coffee.
All that tests failed.
I give up.
Reviews from Costco US report the same problem.
You need to grind coarser until you get ratio 1:2 in 30 seconds
The issue of this machine is that it comes only with unpressurized basket that require a learning curve and proper dial in.
Mine is not able to push water through the coffee.
It’s crap. And new. Imagine after six month…
Pull 2 blank shots without portafilter before pulling your shot
Wash your portafilter and basket with hot water and dry it with towel before putting putting your coffee grounds
For the grinding size
Do you tamp well? If yes, then you need to grind finer this specific type of beans. Since you reached the finest ground possible by the grinder, then try other type of beans and it's better to be freshly roasted. The more fresh beans the coarser grind.
You should achieve 36 gr espresso in 30 sec assuming you use 18gr of ground coffee
For the steaming:
It depends on the milk quantity you are steaming.
In my bambino, it takes around 40 sec for a 150 ml of milk
Hope this helps
Not sure if mine is just broken, I have tried to dial it in and also watch a bunch of espresso youtube videos.
Using Lavaa coffee medium, not sure how everyone is able to get away with like coarse grounds. Bought some accessories WDT (the little needle distribution tool) and espresso filter paper.
Grind size: 5 fine
Pre-measured: 18g
Extracted: 75g in 25s 8 bars peak, slow ramp up
Grind size: 0 fine
Pre-measured: 18g
Extract: 70g in 30s 9-10 bars peak, slow ramp up
The issues I am having:
- the espresso shots coming out isnt that hot (Changed the sitting to 96c), its just warm even after warming up the mug with hot water
- It takes almost 80 seconds to steam the milk to the 60c mark (measured with an instant read thermo), even after running the steam for a bit prior to steaming milk
- Pressures seems to ramp up really slowly.
Any thoughts? maybe its just broken?Do the grinds out of this machine make a consistent size with low variation (0.30mm +/- 0.05)? Or is it making a wider range of fines and boulders (0.25 to 0.35mm +/- 0.1)? Can it set PID at exact celsius like 95C for light roasts? Is it a consistent 7-9 bar pressure? Or is it also a bigger variation as it pulls?
The tight control isn't imaginary, it does make a difference in tasting the espresso. Like no matter how I tweak on my Bambino, straight espresso is never as much in the sweet zone, rich with crema, as one made on my ECM (mainly the B doesn't get hot enough at the head for light roasts, so I compensate greater extraction in other ways). My wife or anyone I serve notices it even as a latte between the two, so I add a bit more sugar/Torani in the Bambino one to hide the greater sour/bitter tones.
Taste is subjective, someone could be really happy with the milky drinks and even the straight espresso out of this Costco machine.
Here's the dirty secret. Unless the machine is broken, once you figure out the right grind level and timing on the shot, it'll pull a decent espresso.
Truly manual machines, you can control evert detail including the amount of pressure and temperature.
This machine would be closer to a semi-auto, because pressure control is missing. There is some temp control but who knows how good it is.
IMO the only machines designed for milky drinks are autos/super automatics. Most of the time these machines don't do any real adjustments for the bean (which is what ultimately matters). These machines also tend to under extract and that's usually fine because most people using these machines are really doing it to make a milk based drink.
Spend enough time and understand the settings you need for your beans, and this machine if fully functional can produce a decent shot. The big question mark given the quality is if it will remain consistent or remain functional over time. That's what truly differentiates something like this and something like a Breville at the same level. The next level up, you're getting machines that have much better consistency. For home espresso machines it's usually about how much they can automate away from the user and sometimes that ends up being more counter productive cus then you can't control certain things you need to accommodate your beans.
All the above info is guidelines. Generally speaking a 1:2 ratio pulled at 25 seconds is about the right variables you should aim to fix as a home barista. BUT the truth is that it's that things have error margins. A double shot is a measurement. So if you're going for 9g for a double shot you're guaranteed a bad shot. But a margin of +/- 3g is within reason given your grinder capability and what you can control in your machine.
And why think this machine is not made to prepare espresso?
To make an espresso i need to pass water through a puck of coffee at 9-12 bar by lever manually or by an electric pump, and I believe this machine is capable to do that. So I would appreciate if you explain from where your judgement comes
It should start extracting black stream around 5 seconds, and gradually go lighter. When it starts turning pale brown/yellow, it is time to cut off the shot.
Then one should taste the espresso, and make adjustments.
Attempting to always go for 1:2 / 26 seconds ratio will result in plentiful of hair loss.
There are many ways of extracting coffee, and not every shot is the same.
Not to mention, there are many types of beans or roast levels which will require different grind/pull time.
As a side note, ironically, "italian" roast beans aren't very flavourful.
https://coffeebros.com/blogs/coffee/dont-buy-italian-roast-coffee-until-you-read-this
My personal recommendation for coffee beans is Kimbo Crema Intensa. Don't pay more than ~$20 though and I'd recommend to check local shops, as Amazon seems to overcharge.
Also, any additional espresso accessories, like WDT, puck screens, etc. can be bought from Aliexpress for cheap.
https://www.amazon.ca/Leiking-Digital-0 ... 111&sr=8-7
WDT Tool:
https://www.amazon.ca/Espresso-Stirrer- ... C97&sr=8-6
Lots of distributors out there, but I prefer the single line down the middle vs the oddly shaped protrusions on the contact area that compress the grinds unevenly. Either way the depth should be a very shallow sweep. The other end also has an adjustable depth tamp, or learn how to use the manual tamper:
https://www.amazon.ca/58-5mm-Coffee-Dis ... 09&sr=8-14
If you can find the grind setting on this machine to get that ratio timing, remember to mix the grinds in the basket with a WDT tool, distribute and tamp evenly, pull a shot that’s not too bitter or sour, you’re good. But I’d imagine this machine is mainly for milky drinks rather than shots as it’s probably not going to have a large sweet circle. People generally outgrow beginner semi-automatics if they want good espresso. Make adjustments on the bottom right to get into the green target, you may find your own taste buds do not follow the standard ratio.
So far it's decent for my needs
With my old PC beans, at a grind level of around 11, I measured around 15g for a double shot and extracted a bit over 30 grams. Took around 25 seconds.
The crema was thinner but the color was just right. I figure my crema will be thicker with new beans.
The flavor was good. It wasn't bitter at all and had the right level of acidity. The mouth feel was decently velvety.
So, yes, with enough dialing in, and a kitchen scale, you can even pull a decent double shot on this thing with old beans. I haven't dialed in a single shot but will figure that out later.
Honestly my biggest complaint now is the steam wand. It's slow AF. All in all I'll keep it and see how it keeps up.
At 300+tax, this machine comes out to 340. I'm wondering if I should just find myself a used breville barista express instead. I think the consistency in the brevilles is much better but I'm mostly concerned about paying 300 for a used grinder.
With this one, within 6 months if something better comes along it goes back to Costco.
“Consider that an espresso is about 60 ml. The cup in which this coffee is served should be no bigger than 90ml. If the cup is too big, the crema spreads out, becomes thin, and disappears quickly”
There is always water staying on the puck!
It’s never dry!
The pressure inside the machine seems too weak to push all the water.
I’m really trying to love it, but… it’s garbage and I know it will get worse with time. I have to return it.
That being said, the coffee (just Costco's espresso beans) tasted great and is easily good enough for my tastes. I plan on keeping it and figuring out how to get things just right.
2. Need a finer grind setting?
3. Need more grounds in the portafilter?
4. Need to tamp it down better in the portafilter?
5. Need to make sure you've locked the portafilter into place?
Better than my cafe roma both looks and flavors wise
I shared my settings earlier
However you say you get 10 bar. That means the openings of the basket screens are too small.
I believe if you are willing to get IMS basket from Amazon, you will have to grind finer to get 9-10 bar and get way better results.
Great find
I have no plans to buy this but am curious nonetheless!
What about the temperature of the shot? Is the PID control working?
Can you do manual extraction like you decide when the shot to start and when to stop?
Does the machine have low pressure infusion like the Brevilles and can you control the time of that pre-infusion?
So far grinder is fine. No serious issues with the machine. Everything seems to work.
I messed with some different configurations in grind level, and timing the single and double shots as well as different amounts of beans.
So far I don't think this machine is good enough to brew really finely ground coffee. Immediately the pressure jacks up well past 15 bars (not sure if it's at the head or not) and nothing really comes out. That being said, even the grinder basket says that's for slow brews, so maybe I need to keep it running for something closer to to 45-50 seconds to get a shot out at a finer grind.
That being said, a medium grind puck, weighed properly (18-20 g) and not too tightly packed (no pressure in the tamper) produced a drinkable shot and double shot with my old beans. I think better beans will produce a less bitter shot overall. I find PC beans over roasted similar to Starbucks.
So tldr, i'm able to pull decent shots. They're not incredible...but also the machine is 300 bucks.
Moral of the story is this machine is not for the coffee snobs/enthusiasts. This is a decent machine for someone who just wants a drinkable espresso in the morning.
No complaints about the frother. It's slow, but given enough time it gets the milk to a good level.
Ensure you packed it enough. In my case I was able to see the blueprint of the pressure head part when I was done pulling the shot after few attempts.
Frothing isn't bad but not the best either.
To help the situation try adding a bit more coffee for brewing. Also leave the portafilter in the machine for a few minutes after brewing.