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    • Price in title please.
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    • What's the benefit of getting this over a SATA SSD? I'm building a strictly gaming PC right away. Thanks
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    • wetcardboard wrote:
      Aug 11th, 2019 10:41 am
      What's the benefit of getting this over a SATA SSD? I'm building a strictly gaming PC right away. Thanks
      NVME isn't bottlenecked by the SATA controller. Personally I would get this as a boot drive and use a cheaper bigger SATA as the main.
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    • wetcardboard wrote:
      Aug 11th, 2019 10:41 am
      What's the benefit of getting this over a SATA SSD? I'm building a strictly gaming PC right away. Thanks
      Faster performance.
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    • wetcardboard wrote:
      Aug 11th, 2019 10:41 am
      What's the benefit of getting this over a SATA SSD? I'm building a strictly gaming PC right away. Thanks
      NVME is 7 times faster than SATA SSD
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    • nivek_k2020 wrote:
      Aug 11th, 2019 11:09 am
      NVME is 7 times faster than SATA SSD
      In theory. You're lucky to see a 5-10% difference in games at best.
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    • wetcardboard wrote:
      Aug 11th, 2019 10:41 am
      What's the benefit of getting this over a SATA SSD? I'm building a strictly gaming PC right away. Thanks
      Super duper performance on the NVMe. Sequential reads go from 550 MB/s to 3000 MB/s; random reads go from ~90k IOPS to ~500k IOPS.
      https://www.anandtech.com/show/13761/th ... ssd-review

      The one thing to look out for is that the 500GB doesn't write as fast as the 1TB model (900MB/s vs 1700 MB/s).
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      Basically - your theoretical benchmarks will be insane. In real world terms, it's faster but not earth shattering. I went from a 500GB SATA SSD to a 1TB EVO plus. Boot times went from like 10 seconds to like 3 seconds. Game launches similarly quicker but not world breaking. It's faster but we're talking diminishing returns. The real improvement is going from a slow HDD to any SSD.
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    • NVME also takes up less space so it's a good way to add storage space without adding extra clutter.
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    • ocisnicola wrote:
      Aug 11th, 2019 11:32 am
      NVME also takes up less space so it's a good way to add storage space without adding extra clutter.
      Yup.. no power cable, no SATA cable. Nice neat look and feeds directly to the CPU.
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    • ocisnicola wrote:
      Aug 11th, 2019 11:32 am
      NVME also takes up less space so it's a good way to add storage space without adding extra clutter.
      That's a benefit of M.2, not NVMe. You can buy sata drives that work over M.2 as well.
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    • wetcardboard wrote:
      Aug 11th, 2019 10:41 am
      What's the benefit of getting this over a SATA SSD? I'm building a strictly gaming PC right away. Thanks
      i upgraded from a SSD to a NVME drive. it's faster but not by much. don't listen to these guys. Watch bench mark vids on youtube. It's basically the same in real time performance unless you're the type who transfer 100 GB files all day.

      For strictly gaming.. it's the same as a normal Sata SSD. It's basically like going from 2400 ddr4 to 3200 DDR4. Just nerds wanting the fastest newest tech. I regret paying for a NMVE drive now that prices have gone down.
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    • orianna wrote:
      Aug 11th, 2019 12:36 pm
      i upgraded from a SSD to a NVME drive. it's faster but not by much. don't listen to these guys. Watch bench mark vids on youtube. It's basically the same in real time performance unless you're the type who transfer 100 GB files all day.

      For strictly gaming.. it's the same as a normal Sata SSD. It's basically like going from 2400 ddr4 to 3200 DDR4. Just nerds wanting the fastest newest tech. I regret paying for a NMVE drive now that prices have gone down.
      The issue of transferring files is always that you're limited by the slowest link in the chain. So, if you're going from say a 4TB storage drive, NVMe or SATA SSD won't matter, the HDD will slow you down.

      I would recommend paying some premium for NVMe (say up to 50%) as your boot drive, but after that it's not worth it. And for a secondary storage drive, it's totally not worth it. SATA SSD gets you 90%+ of the way there.
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    • yeah, real world differences are not very much.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3AMz-xZ2VM

      I would get a NVME drive for a boot/scratch drive and a cheap SATA as a application drive, or even a spinning drive if I had a lot of data to store. I definitely would not pay extra for PRO versions of the drive, it's overkill unless you are moving a LOT of data.
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    • jiffylube1024 wrote:
      Aug 11th, 2019 1:32 pm
      The issue of transferring files is always that you're limited by the slowest link in the chain. So, if you're going from say a 4TB storage drive, NVMe or SATA SSD won't matter, the HDD will slow you down.

      I would recommend paying some premium for NVMe (say up to 50%) as your boot drive, but after that it's not worth it. And for a secondary storage drive, it's totally not worth it. SATA SSD gets you 90%+ of the way there.
      ? I have this same NVME. you don't know what you're talking about. This is my boot drive. I notice maybe a half second or no difference at all. I also have macbook pro touch bar with a NVME. I transfer files with a type C drive.. like i said, unless you're transferring huge files all day, most people won't notice the difference. It's like people talking about PCIe 4.0 is a reason to buy new AMD boards. We are nowhere close to maxing PCIe 3.0 with the best video cards right now. People just want the newest technology
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    • orianna wrote:
      Aug 11th, 2019 2:25 pm
      ? I have this same NVME. you don't know what you're talking about. This is my boot drive. I notice maybe a half second or no difference at all. I also have macbook pro touch bar with a NVME. I transfer files with a type C drive.. like i said, unless you're transferring huge files all day, most people won't notice the difference. It's like people talking about PCIe 4.0 is a reason to buy new AMD boards. We are nowhere close to maxing PCIe 3.0 with the best video cards right now. People just want the newest technology
      PCI-e 1.0 PCI-e 2.x PCI-e 3.0 PCI-e 4.x
      x1 250MB/s 500MB/s 985MB/s 1969MB/s
      x4 1000MB/s 2000MB/s 3940MB/s 7876MB/s
      x8 2000MB/s 4000MB/s 7880MB/s 15752MB/s
      x16 4000MB/s 8000MB/s 15760MB/s 31504MB/s

      As you can see... PCI-e3 at x4 is already saturated by the EVO drive currently at 3800MB/s. PCIe4 makes sense especially for a new Ryzen 3000 build.
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    • orianna wrote:
      Aug 11th, 2019 2:25 pm
      ? I have this same NVME. you don't know what you're talking about. This is my boot drive. I notice maybe a half second or no difference at all. I also have macbook pro touch bar with a NVME. I transfer files with a type C drive.. like i said, unless you're transferring huge files all day, most people won't notice the difference. It's like people talking about PCIe 4.0 is a reason to buy new AMD boards. We are nowhere close to maxing PCIe 3.0 with the best video cards right now. People just want the newest technology
      What's your motherboard/system that the drive is in? I do notice a tangible decrease in going from SSD > NVMe (ASUS B360M-PLUS, i7 8700), but as I say it's diminishing returns and nowhere near the impact of HDD > SSD. You have to find your own threshold for "worth it".
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    • jiffylube1024 wrote:
      Aug 12th, 2019 11:41 am
      What's your motherboard/system that the drive is in? I do notice a tangible decrease in going from SSD > NVMe (ASUS B360M-PLUS, i7 8700), but as I say it's diminishing returns and nowhere near the impact of HDD > SSD. You have to find your own threshold for "worth it".
      i7-7700 with a Asus MOBO. Like i said, I notice basically no difference booting/loading games. I don't transfer 100's of GB to other drives. Most people don't, as they surf the web/excel/games. You don't need a NVME drive for that. I have a macbook pro touch bar with a NVME.. IMO, it's not worth it for the price I paid last year, prices have gone down a lot as well as SATA SSD's.

      Just letting people know who are on a budget. It's my opinion, show me some of your load times in any game.

      Post your SSD and NVME times for similar tasks. Look at every youtube video posted here and online.. the difference in everyday tasks is minimal.
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    • there is intel 1tb stick for 122, so it may be better deal
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