Why buy a VW

Just a friendly discussion.

From what I've heard and experienced VW build quality has really been going down the drain over the past 5 years.

They dropped off the JDPower ratings. Many widely reported issues with the latest Golfs/Jettas inc. serious electrical problems.

Just interested in hearing any reasons why people still want to pay a premium for a VW when japanese counterparts appear to be a better option.

Because most people who will buy a VW wont have a clue about its problems

i took a vw only because it was diesel and really cheap on gaz
as i said in previous message,never again

i HAVE JETTA 2002 GLS - american model, MADE IN MEXICO- thats the problem, its made in mexico and quality is horrible, electrical problems just keep getting worse and worse, electrical window broken, because latch inside is plastic, when they replace its metal, then engine message comes on from time to time, now brake signal almost always there, even when i put air conditining and starts beeping, now this week air bag deployement signal will not go away, even though never had air bags deployed. Buy the way, i love this year model - 2002, because of the nice curves, good construction, you feel the german ergonomy inside,well laid out, but they need to fix their problems and get out of mexico and go back to germany, even though it may cost more, better cars will be sold more.

ps. friends sister has 2002 jetta and has same problems

They are good quality to a certain point, buy the wolfberg edition. Or the higher model VW, passat, or the ridiculously priced phaeton those will be built in germany.

The new Passat and Jetta are just horrible looking, the golf is the only thing that's semi good looking.

Originally Posted by Neb

They are good quality to a certain point, buy the wolfberg edition. Or the higher model VW, passat, or the ridiculously priced phaeton those will be built in germany.

The new Passat and Jetta are just horrible looking, the golf is the only thing that's semi good looking.

i agree 100 per cent with you, those are great buys, the new jetta and passat look hot for the people who generally buy vw, the behind, ummmmm... ya the golf, especially the gti. I heard great thing about the wolfsburg- german made, means better than mexico


THANKS GOD THE NEW JETTA WILL BE BUILT IN GERMANY ONCE MORE, VW WILL go bakc up in the ratings

The new Jetta's and Golfs will be built in Germany.

first car............72 beetle.....................loved it, simple, good offroader! and could do a lot of my own maintenance......10 gallon tank cost 5 bucks to fill and got mid 30's per gallon and top speed of 82 mph

Originally Posted by Neb

The new Passat and Jetta are just horrible looking, the golf is the only thing that's semi good looking.

Horrible looking? I think not, sex on wheels.

omg so sorry post in wrong forum...my bad

VWs are cute little cars. The interior is pretty well done. What I've never understood is how the Jetta made the move from competitor with the Civic --the proper equivalent, to a competitor with the Accord and company. VW owes its AD firms $$$$ for pulling that off.

The build quality out of Mexico is inferior, so much so that the Beetles they ship to Germany are finished there.

The other thing that's hard ti understand is all the hubbub about German Engineering..What does that refer to? The fact that VWs have had 15yrs of straight electrical gremlins that are most likely a design flaw (check out how many times the 1999 Passat wiring diagrams changed)?
The main issue recently besides the bad window regulators had been with the 1.8T (ignition coils ++)..

My recommendation for anyone who "must" buy a VW is to get as few gadgets in it as possible.

Originally Posted by careener

VWs are cute little cars. The interior is pretty well done. What I've never understood is how the Jetta made the move from competitor with the Civic --the proper equivalent, to a competitor with the Accord and company. VW owes its AD firms $$$$ for pulling that off.

The build quality out of Mexico is inferior, so much so that the Beetles they ship to Germany are finished there.

The other thing that's hard ti understand is all the hubbub about German Engineering..What does that refer to? The fact that VWs have had 15yrs of straight electrical gremlins that are most likely a design flaw (check out how many times the 1999 Passat wiring diagrams changed)?
The main issue recently besides the bad window regulators had been with the 1.8T (ignition coils ++)..

My recommendation for anyone who "must" buy a VW is to get as few gadgets in it as possible.

agreed, those window problems are horrible, but don't forget, that at least i think in the 2002 jetta and golf gti, many functions are built in, wiring installed but no buttons to operate, so that this can be installed later on, lets say heating front seats, etc.

If you have to ask, you shouldn't drive a VW.

since im stuck with mine (gold tdi),too many kms and dents on it hehehe
do u have any recomendation ,gadgets etc..?

its not just the made in mexico part thats killing VW... lots of pre mexican built jettas and golfs are horrible as well (lots of frds with 2000 golfs made in germany and GTI's which were built in germany a few years after) and all have had horrible problems with VW

lastly.. Audi which are not mexican built but share many parts with VW have had horrible reliability as well..

its not just an assemblyu issue, but choice of suppliers and most importantly poorly designed junk from VW