Scammer DarthVR6

If you are going to deal with this guy be very, very careful. I will never deal with him again. Here is the negative heatware I posted from him.

Forum: RedflagDeals.com
Description:
2x 120gb PATA
2x 120gb SATA
Comments:
Quick summary of transaction
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1. 4x 120gb Hard drives purchased September 21, 2006.

2. Sempteber 22nd 2006. System built with one IDE drive, works perfectly.

3. October 4th 2006.
Tried to build system with remaining IDE drive. Drive does not work, makes clicking sound and is not recognized in BIOS or POST.

Tried remaining SATA drive, not recognized in BIOS or POST.

4. October 5th, 2006.
E-mailed DarthVR6 about defective drives. He says he gives no warranty and that drives were all working when he sold them to me.


There is no warranty left from manufacturer, and this guy refuses to replace them or offer a refund.

I contacted him about the defective drives 13 days later in e-mail. He responds two days later saying that drives were fully working, and that he will not offer a refund because it has been so long.

Well, I don't care how long its been. If the drives don't work, they don't work, bottom line.

This guy has taken my money, paid in good faith for working hard drives.

He seemed like a nice guy at first, but I would never deal with him again.

This is a warning to all RFD community/ craigslist, online community.

From: dietrich.heese.boutin@utoronto.ca
To: toc_@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: Hard Drives 4 Sale, PRICE DROPS - $1
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2006 02:33:27 -0400


I didn't plug in the drives until two days ago.
They don't even boot, they are not even recognized and don't show up.

If you cannot refund my money you are very unreasonable, and I will be leaving negative heatware.

You are basically a thief then.

The drives are totally useless. They were sitting at my place until they were ready to use, I plugged them in, and they don't work. They don't show up in the bios at all.

One of them makes a constant clicking sound all the time, it was clearly not good to begin with.

This is what he replies:

Dietrich, I am far from a thief. I have had NO issues with anyone ever, and now suddenly you appear. I am not FUTURE SHOP, I do not offer any ****ing warranty. I CLEARLY advised you to check the drives and if there is any issues, LET ME KNOW and that Id return your money. You can NOT expect ANYONE reasonable to accept your story that suddenly its not ****ing working after 3 weeks, 2 weeks or what ever. I have NO idea what the drives have been through since you purchased them or what was done to them. I accept no responsibility. You want to be an ass and leave negative heatware, I'll do the same. You try out the drives after '13' days and then expect me to refund your money cuz you claim they're defective? Try leaving me negative heatware on that, you're the one who'll look stupid with my remarks in return. You weren't even POLITE about the entire situation! Again, the DRIVES WERE working when sold to you, what has happened since is NOT my responsibility - it is yours. Any smart person who buys something tests it immediately. You on the other hand wait '13' days and then call me a thief and put the blame on me, you're freakin brilliant.

Is it just me or is there more and more of these such posts in the Buy Sell Trade section of RFD is there not a specific place in the forums for such posts.

Originally Posted by jock

If you are going to deal with this guy be very, very careful. I will never deal with him again. Here is the negative heatware I posted from him.

Forum: RedflagDeals.com
Description:
2x 120gb PATA
2x 120gb SATA
Comments:
Quick summary of transaction
----------------------------
1. 4x 120gb Hard drives purchased September 21, 2006.

2. Sempteber 22nd 2006. System built with one IDE drive, works perfectly.

3. October 4th 2006.
Tried to build system with remaining IDE drive. Drive does not work, makes clicking sound and is not recognized in BIOS or POST.

Tried remaining SATA drive, not recognized in BIOS or POST.

4. October 5th, 2006.
E-mailed DarthVR6 about defective drives. He says he gives no warranty and that drives were all working when he sold them to me.


There is no warranty left from manufacturer, and this guy refuses to replace them or offer a refund.

I contacted him about the defective drives 13 days later in e-mail. He responds two days later saying that drives were fully working, and that he will not offer a refund because it has been so long.

Well, I don't care how long its been. If the drives don't work, they don't work, bottom line.

This guy has taken my money, paid in good faith for working hard drives.

He seemed like a nice guy at first, but I would never deal with him again.

This is a warning to all RFD community/ craigslist, online community.

From: dietrich.heese.boutin@utoronto.ca
To: toc_@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: Hard Drives 4 Sale, PRICE DROPS - $1
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2006 02:33:27 -0400


I didn't plug in the drives until two days ago.
They don't even boot, they are not even recognized and don't show up.

If you cannot refund my money you are very unreasonable, and I will be leaving negative heatware.

You are basically a thief then.

The drives are totally useless. They were sitting at my place until they were ready to use, I plugged them in, and they don't work. They don't show up in the bios at all.

One of them makes a constant clicking sound all the time, it was clearly not good to begin with.

This is what he replies:

Dietrich, I am far from a thief. I have had NO issues with anyone ever, and now suddenly you appear. I am not FUTURE SHOP, I do not offer any ****ing warranty. I CLEARLY advised you to check the drives and if there is any issues, LET ME KNOW and that Id return your money. You can NOT expect ANYONE reasonable to accept your story that suddenly its not ****ing working after 3 weeks, 2 weeks or what ever. I have NO idea what the drives have been through since you purchased them or what was done to them. I accept no responsibility. You want to be an ass and leave negative heatware, I'll do the same. You try out the drives after '13' days and then expect me to refund your money cuz you claim they're defective? Try leaving me negative heatware on that, you're the one who'll look stupid with my remarks in return. You weren't even POLITE about the entire situation! Again, the DRIVES WERE working when sold to you, what has happened since is NOT my responsibility - it is yours. Any smart person who buys something tests it immediately. You on the other hand wait '13' days and then call me a thief and put the blame on me, you're freakin brilliant.

This email looks familar i dealt with this user before exactly looks like it i get back to you later on today with his details i think i have his paypal email id

Richard!

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Again, the DRIVES WERE working when sold to you, what has happened since is NOT my responsibility - it is yours. Any smart person who buys something tests it immediately. You on the other hand wait '13' days and then call me a thief and put the blame on me, you're freakin brilliant.

IMHO.......There may be some waiting period before purchased items may be tested due to having to wait for other items to arrive to make a build. It might be advisable to state so while making the deal though. Is there some sort of guideline to what a reasonable waiting period here is on RFD...?.

Sorry to hear about your situation jock.

as far as i see, if the drives working and run fine for 13days, it is good...i don't know whethe you knew there is no MFG warranty left on these drives, to me it is too late to ask for refund...you even left him positive feedback that means you satisfied with items you bought from him....so if you sold a desktop to someone and he does samething to you...you would kindly refund the whole money after 13days he uses..? RFD is not a computer store.

Description:
2x Western Digital 120gb
2x Seagate 120gb
Comments:
Awesome transaction. This guy is flawless. Fast communication, offered to meet up at a mutually convenient location, but then dropped them off very close to my place. Very impressed.

Thanks Bro,

AA+++

SassySue - I have had NO dealings with you what so ever, please confirm before making accusations. You inquired about an item I was selling but nothing more.

As for this Dietrech fellow, he's another story. As I've explained to him, I've had NUMEROUS dealings with ppl on RFD, Craigslist, EBAY. I've dealt with a lot of regulars [HKPolice, Rennigade, others] - they can all back me up. I have NEVER sold a defective item and have never complained about any item I've purchased. As a reasonable buyer, I immediately tests an item after purchasing it. If he built his system 2 weeks later, that is his problem. Its his word against mine, I sold him WORKING drives, not defective drives. I drove ALL the way down to his home to drop the drives off when he made arrangements to meet me half way [backed out last minute]. When we met, I specifically said to him as I tell everyone else, test them out, if you have any issues let me know within 3 days and I'll refund your money. 13 days is un acceptable. Whether or not he really took 13 days to build his system or if he damaged the drives in some way, I'll never know.

Im far from a scammer/thief or anything else he may want to suggest. I would never sell a defective item to anyone. I'll state it again, if any of my items fail within 3 days, I'll refund your money. Whether anyone considers this a bad eval and not deal with me, than so be it, but I'd like all of you to consider the fact that not testing an item purchased for '13' days is not reasonable. If he wants such warranty, he should purchase his items retail and take it up with customer service.

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When we met, I specifically said to him as I tell everyone else, test them out, if you have any issues let me know within 3 days and I'll refund your money. 13 days is un acceptable. Whether or not he really took 13 days to build his system or if he damaged the drives in some way, I'll never know.

3 day's sounds reasonable. I wasn't taking sides, as a nOOb I'm just looking for info on the best way to approach a situation when an item is claimed to be defective after purchase.

I'm sorry to see that any deal have disputes, be it from either party involved.

Apparently, he's done this before. Look at his heatware - feedback left by iceman2g.

Originally Posted by TypeVR6

SassySue - I have had NO dealings with you what so ever, please confirm before making accusations. You inquired about an item I was selling but nothing more.

As for this Dietrech fellow, he's another story. As I've explained to him, I've had NUMEROUS dealings with ppl on RFD, Craigslist, EBAY. I've dealt with a lot of regulars [HKPolice, Rennigade, others] - they can all back me up. I have NEVER sold a defective item and have never complained about any item I've purchased. As a reasonable buyer, I immediately tests an item after purchasing it. If he built his system 2 weeks later, that is his problem. Its his word against mine, I sold him WORKING drives, not defective drives. I drove ALL the way down to his home to drop the drives off when he made arrangements to meet me half way [backed out last minute]. When we met, I specifically said to him as I tell everyone else, test them out, if you have any issues let me know within 3 days and I'll refund your money. 13 days is un acceptable. Whether or not he really took 13 days to build his system or if he damaged the drives in some way, I'll never know.

Im far from a scammer/thief or anything else he may want to suggest. I would never sell a defective item to anyone. I'll state it again, if any of my items fail within 3 days, I'll refund your money. Whether anyone considers this a bad eval and not deal with me, than so be it, but I'd like all of you to consider the fact that not testing an item purchased for '13' days is not reasonable. If he wants such warranty, he should purchase his items retail and take it up with customer service.

First thing don't bit my head off 2nd i was just saying that i dealt with dietech a user with the same email as you

For what it's worth, I've purchased from this seller before and not only did I get what I was offered, but I was told up front about any issues or deffects that he was aware of. Seller told me to get back to him within three days with any issues but I had none. Seller went the extra mile to make me happy with the purchase and I would certainly buy from him again.

It is my opinion that the common practice when buying used goods, be it on REDFLAG, a garage sale, or whatever, that the buyer accepts a certain element of risk, with the only exception being a retail purchase (even then I have seen 10 day limits). 24 - 74 hrs seems to be a reasonable time frame to test most items for functionality and if a seller offers anything beyond that it his their perogitive. It is not reasonable to suggest that one can force a seller to wait till a buyer is ready to test an item. In this case 13 days is simply unacceptable, again IMHO.

-Tetchyy

Tetchy - I really appreciate the feedback

SassySue is referring to Threadstater, not me :P Thanks for all the support RFD'rs!

I've dealt with TypeVR6 before, he is friendly, honest, and a model trader. Dietrich-h left positive heatware feedback first on 09-21-2006 then left negative feedback more than 2 weeks later on 10-08-2006.

If you ask me, this is an open and shut case - Dietrich broke the drives during that 2 week period and is trying to sleeze his money back by making this story up. Why would he leave positive feedback without fully testing all the drives first?

I also recall Dietrich lowballing me numberous times, he is now on my DO NOT TRADE list.

So you expect the seller give you a lifetime warranty on the product he sold you? That's ********.

The seller told you he'll warrant against DOA when you test it on after you get home, he didn't offer you extended warranty beyond the arriving DOA. He isn't Best Buy who offers these kind of things.

If you didn't bother testing the HD, it's your fault, after 2 weeks, nobody would know what you have done to the HDs then, you might of dropped in the process. As for manufacturer warranty, it's your responsibility to check it before hand.

And FYI, I've dealth with TypeVR6 before, excellent communication, friendly as hell and very prompt on time after having him drive all the way across town to pick up some memory.

I'm gonna cry - *SNIFF* - thanks for all the support guys