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Old Jul 11th, 2006, 11:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default satisfcuktion sold me defective merchandise and now he's saying "it's not my problem"

So guys, I gues it happens to all of us. Rather recently I've had a deal with satisfcuktion that left a bitter taste in my mouth.
I was following his thread over in the BST section:
http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/s...d.php?t=301883
I saw some belts that I liked (black Zegna, light blue and orange Boss), so I decided to purchase them off him. Needless to say that the belts were neither in "brand new condition" as he claims, nor "worn once or twice MAX". Let me show you what they actually look like:



You can clearly see the difference. The Boss is actually chipped a bit on the buckle, and the Zegna is fully cut off. How's that for "brand new condition" ? Now, I'm not a picky trader, so those didn't really seem like issues to me. The chip on the Boss is small, the cut part on the Zegna shouldn't be visible. So I decided to act like a nice guy and take them. So where's the issue you ask ? Well, in fact, the Zegna belt doesn't stay closed. Even the slightest pressure applied makes it open. That renders it unusable. On the other hand, the seller clearly advertised it as in "perfect condition".
I've taken the time to make a movie and post it on here:
http://rapidshare.de/files/24781543/100_2478.MOV
So, what are my grievances:
- he advertised something that wasn't brand new as "brand new"
- he advertised something that doesn't work the way it should as "brand new condition" and "worn once or twice max", though later over MSN he claimed that he never wore it.
What I want:
- money back for the Zegna only
What I will do to get my money back:
- anything it takes (legally speaking)
That being said, I'd advise against trading with him. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks .
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Old Jul 11th, 2006, 11:56 PM   #2 (permalink)
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MSN log from tonight (I talked to him a few days ago, and gave him time to think about it, and come up with the money):
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| Session Start: July 11, 2006 |
| Participants: |
| NSD (xxxxxx@gmail.com) |
| satisfcuktion (xxxxxxxxxxxx@gmail.com) |
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[11:19:09 PM] NSD: so man ? I think you've had enough time to
think
[11:21:02 PM] - satisfcuktion: lol
[11:21:13 PM] - s: well im not gonna do any "refund" or stuff
like that
[11:21:15 PM] - s: im not a store
[11:21:25 PM] - s: im insisting that i got the belt like that
and that its new
[11:21:32 PM] - s: if u have to complain, i guess ull do what
u have to do
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Old Jul 11th, 2006, 11:58 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Well didn't you have a chance to check it out before buying?
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Old Jul 11th, 2006, 11:58 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Yes I can see where this transaction went sour, I myself never dealt with him bu was interested in one of his items, however upon some communication with him, I reliazed he has subpar communication skills and was somewhat rude, and therefore annuled any dealings, needless to say i got the same item elsewhere cheaper, just my 2 cents.
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Old Jul 12th, 2006, 12:00 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Well didn't you have a chance to check it out before buying?
I just checked to see that it fits, didn't actually close it (didn't really see the point back then).
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Old Jul 12th, 2006, 12:02 AM   #6 (permalink)
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FYI
you may want to inquire with the mods as why that thread was locked...
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I just noticed it was locked. Just sent a PM, thanks .
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Old Jul 12th, 2006, 12:11 AM   #8 (permalink)
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hey, thanks for the warning man.
i was about to deal with this guy...but wow, he tried to rush me into buying the item I wanted. and since I told him many times it was too far, he kept harassing me to come...kept offering me more of his stuff when i clearly wasn't interested. he kept trying to hustle me into his stuff.

i hope you get this issue resolve
That's a PM I just received .
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Old Jul 12th, 2006, 12:30 AM   #9 (permalink)
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that sucks dude. sorry for wat happened. maybe u should have checked the belts and tried it throughly..before buying it.

how much did u pay neways??
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Old Jul 12th, 2006, 01:50 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I dealt with him before too, and needless to say it was terrible. He gave me the clothes wrinkled and dared to ask for subway fare as well! Possible the worst person to deal with!
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Old Jul 12th, 2006, 01:55 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Quote:
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FYI
you may want to inquire with the mods as why that thread was locked...
So the posts there can not be edited.
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Old Jul 12th, 2006, 05:06 AM   #12 (permalink)
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i bet he will make a new account
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Old Jul 12th, 2006, 09:30 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I don't know....a belt? You had the opportunity to try them on, no idea why you didn't see if they actually worked.

But yeah, it is the principle. I just had a guy stiff me after making me drive to his house 50km away.
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Old Jul 12th, 2006, 10:06 AM   #14 (permalink)
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He dared to ask for subway fare as well!
LMAO
that was funny

Now back to the topic at hand:
I understand where you're coming from
but this goes back to "buyer beware"
you should have checked out the belt, made sure everything was good. it was used, so you'll have to be the judge of the condition, not him. New is new. "Good" condition for a used product is subjective.
Plus you paid $90 for it (i'm assuming, seeing how the price listed in the thread is "SOLD", but the other Zegna is $90). You would think you would have checked if the item worked.

I'm not advocating the sale of defective merchandice, but I am a firm believer in Buyer Beware. You had the choice to buy it or not.
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Old Jul 12th, 2006, 11:08 AM   #15 (permalink)
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I didn't actually pay $90. Yes, I should have tried it, but a malfunctioning belt ? I never thought that would ever be the case, especially for something made by Zegna.
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