pulled doing over 50km, License suspeneded and car towed

Originally Posted by BlizzardNeon

Ok that makes sence now suppose you lost control doing 100km/h limit and ended up hitting the car beside you.... Well I will tell you the outcome will be the same as hitting the car doing 150 or 140 km/h... you will spin them out and probley into something and you will most likey do the same.

Argueing on what would have happened at them speeds is stupid cause at the posted 100km/h the result is the same and YOU CAN DIE GOING 100km/h hell even 80 km/h can kill you and anyone around you...... so I ask do you relize that even driveing the speed limit can kill poeple... no didn't think so shut up........

The man has already said it was stupid of him to do why do you so called perfect people that probley break the law at least once a week (maybe a minor thing but your still did) need to make stupid comments at the guy for asking what he should do.

First of all, proper spelling, punctuation and grammar would certainly make your argument at least a little more credible.

Although it may be true that losing control at both a 100 km/h posted speed limit and speeds above that all bear the propensity to kill, it's the degree of risk involved that is different.

The fact is, when one chooses to exceed (knowingly or unknowingly) the posted speed limit, the risk of being involved in a collision substantially increases. This can, of course, be attributed to a number of factors, including the need for increased concentration, and a decrease in the available time to react to changes in road conditions and situations. Posted speed limits are there for a reason: they allow drivers to navigate the roads correctly and carefully, and help in anticipating and accounting for obstacles and changes. By subverting these laws, people risk serious bodily harm to themselves and other drivers.

And for what? To save an few minutes on your trip? Is the tradeoff really worth the possible long-term repercussions? Are police merely sadistic in ticketing speeders... or is it for the safety of other drivers on the road? Do those ticketed ever even show remorse for their actions and what they could have potentially done? No. Too often they just assume a state of denial, act as if they had been the one wronged, and look for a quick and guilt-free way of weaseling out of their charges.

If the posted speed limits are the safest speed that we should be traveling on our highways, then why don't the police nail everyone exceeding the speed limit at all times? Why then was the speed limit initially set at 115 km/h on these same highways before the gas crisis in the 70s?

The posted speed limit is too low, and drivers realize this, which forces them to rely on their own judgement to find an appropriate speed to travel. If the speed limits truly reflected safe speeds for given roads, drivers would be far more willing to obey them. If it truly were a tradeoff of safety vs a few extra minutes, the vast majority would choose safety, but the inaccurate data supplied by the government and poor driver training skews that choice in most people's heads.

Originally Posted by Piro21

If the posted speed limits are the safest speed that we should be traveling on our highways, then why don't the police nail everyone exceeding the speed limit at all times? Why then was the speed limit initially set at 115 km/h on these same highways before the gas crisis in the 70s?

The posted speed limit is too low, and drivers realize this, which forces them to rely on their own judgment to find an appropriate speed to travel. If the speed limits truly reflected safe speeds for given roads, drivers would be far more willing to obey them. If it truly were a tradeoff of safety vs a few extra minutes, the vast majority would choose safety, but the inaccurate data supplied by the government and poor driver training skews that choice in most people's heads.

Does that mean if I think stores charge too much I can use my judgment to shoplift and reduce the costs. The government sets the speed limits not the drivers.

Originally Posted by spf1971

Does that mean if I think stores charge too much I can use my judgment to shoplift and reduce the costs. The government sets the speed limits not the drivers.

The government should, however, serve the drivers, and all other residents of this country, not just themselves. The ridiculous penalties are more an attempt to improve revenue, than an attempt to improve the service or safety.

Some people tend to forget the fact that government officials are the servants, not the masters of the country. When regular people forget this and just blindly support whatever the government is doing, terrible things can happen. Inappropriate speed limits are the least of the potential problems.

Originally Posted by camber

Since, collisions and fatalities caused by people driving at over 150 km/h on Ontario highways cause much less then 1% of fatalities. I wouldn't be worried about those drivers.

That's a good statistic but what percentage of drivers on Ontario highways drive at over 150km/h. If only 1% of the drivers do over 150km/h and 1% of all accidents are caused by drivers going over 150km/h it doesn't look good. Statistics taken out of context mean nothing.

Originally Posted by dog_mumu

The government should, however, serve the drivers, and all other residents of this country, not just themselves. The ridiculous penalties are more an attempt to improve revenue, than an attempt to improve the service or safety.

Some people tend to forget the fact that government officials are the servants, not the masters of the country. When regular people forget this and just blindly support whatever the government is doing, terrible things can happen. Inappropriate speed limits are the least of the potential problems.

When did you write your last letter to your MP petitioning to increase the speed limits? When did you submit your last petition to raise the speed limits? If you haven't done either of these things, then you can't complain that the government isn't serving you. If you don't make your voice heard you can't complain after the fact that no one is listening to you. If you don't like the laws, do something to have them changed.

wow blizzardneon, u got BAD LUCK man!

Originally Posted by dog_mumu

The government should, however, serve the drivers, and all other residents of this country, not just themselves. The ridiculous penalties are more an attempt to improve revenue, than an attempt to improve the service or safety.

Some people tend to forget the fact that government officials are the servants, not the masters of the country. When regular people forget this and just blindly support whatever the government is doing, terrible things can happen. Inappropriate speed limits are the least of the potential problems.

I think you'll find that the government is in fact serving the general population when it comes to laws on the subject of speeding. It is only a vocal minority that would like to see the system changed from what it is now.

North american drivers are simply not well trained enough to handle high speed.

Originally Posted by Bazooka Joe

I think you'll find that the government is in fact serving the general population when it comes to laws on the subject of speeding. It is only a vocal minority that would like to see the system changed from what it is now.

North american drivers are simply not well trained enough to handle high speed.

so true.. i still can't see how they got their license when they constantly go 80 on the highway...

Originally Posted by Bazooka Joe

North american drivers are simply not well trained enough to handle high speed.

They are also not trained enough to handle driving in a school zone. Or in a parking lot of a shopping mall. Or on any street for that matter.

Originally Posted by spf1971

That's a good statistic but what percentage of drivers on Ontario highways drive at over 150km/h. If only 1% of the drivers do over 150km/h and 1% of all accidents are caused by drivers going over 150km/h it doesn't look good. Statistics taken out of context mean nothing.

Glad you said it so I didn't have to.

North american drivers are simply not well trained enough to handle high speed.

The US and Canada will hand out a license to practically anyone. It really doesn't take much skill to pass a driving test. That is the root of the problem. Driving is a privilege, not a right. So many people seem to get that wrong. Let's face it, there are a lot of drivers on the road, who should not be behind the wheel of a vehicle, and are a serious accident waiting to happen.

Originally Posted by Topher

The US and Canada will hand out a license to practically anyone. It really doesn't take much skill to pass a driving test.

Not the case with Ontario's tests. They're not outlandish, but comparable to European and way more tough than what most States of US have.

thats very unforunate. just stick to hwy7 and youll be fine =)

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Originally Posted by NorthYorker

Not the case with Ontario's tests. They're not outlandish, but comparable to European and way more tough than what most States of US have.

really? When I got my license (G1, G2, G) it was so easy. do they only ask you to drive and chew gum at the same time in the States??

Ontario licensing is a joke, i agree.

I wish they would ticket ppl merging at 60 and driving 80 for no reason on 400 series highways as tough as they do the 50+.