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Old May 23rd, 2005, 06:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question Is Pioneer DVR-109 a good burner?

is Pioneer DVR-109 a good dvd-burner?
anyone had any problems with it? any coasters anything specific i need to know?

I'm planning to buy 5 of these for my dvd-duplicating station, so I need some advice before I buy. (I need it specifically for dvd-ram function, and dual layer)
Also , If anyone has (new or close to new, let me know) .. also suggest me a place where to get them cheap.

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Old May 23rd, 2005, 07:10 PM   #2 (permalink)
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is Pioneer DVR-109 a good dvd-burner?
anyone had any problems with it? any coasters anything specific i need to know?

I'm planning to buy 5 of these for my dvd-duplicating station, so I need some advice before I buy. (I need it specifically for dvd-ram function, and dual layer)
Also , If anyone has (new or close to new, let me know) .. also suggest me a place where to get them cheap.
I don't think the 109 supports dvd-ram but it does support double layer. You may want to look at the LG 4163b for dvd-ram support.
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Old May 23rd, 2005, 07:15 PM   #3 (permalink)
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one of the better ones and the price is just right. Eitehr this of the LG 4163. Those are the ones in my tower at the moment. No problems at all! A friend did experience a problem wit the 109, but Pioneer RMAed it withing 5 days. So, great service and a great toy.
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I don't think the 109 supports dvd-ram but it does support double layer. You may want to look at the LG 4163b for dvd-ram support.
are you sure that 109 doesn't support dvd-ram?
can anyone else confirm this?
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Old May 23rd, 2005, 07:24 PM   #5 (permalink)
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are you sure that 109 doesn't support dvd-ram?
can anyone else confirm this?
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Old May 23rd, 2005, 07:26 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Everything but RAM
it seems this website is lying
http://canadacomputers.com/cc/index....516&cid=CR.184
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Old May 23rd, 2005, 07:30 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Here's a link to a review of the Pioneer A09 (retail version of 109):

http://www.cdrlabs.com/reviews/index...&page=Features

The drive will read dvd-ram but it won't write to dvd-ram. Sorry about the confusion.
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Old May 23rd, 2005, 07:31 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I would get the ones with Lightscribe technology if I were to upgrade. Nice labeling system, instead of going with inkjets.
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Old May 23rd, 2005, 08:18 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I've still got my DVR-108 and I loved it..
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I've had the 109 for about a month and haven't had a single problem with it. It's a bit slower on the initial read than my Liteon 24x10x40x CDRW, but otherwise it's an absolute joy to use.
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I would get the ones with Lightscribe technology if I were to upgrade. Nice labeling system, instead of going with inkjets.
I wouldn't call Lightscribe a nice labelling system... I'd call it a last ditch attempt to get people to pay more of an old technology by adding a lame "added value" controlled basically by a monopoly of companies, who charge way too much of a premium for compatible media.

But some might consider that better then inkjet, which is cheap, nicer looking, more easily available, longer lasting, and colour instead of black and white-ish monochrome.
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i heard some people having problems with the Pioneer DVR109 lately, i cant say personally as i dont own one, im just saying.

i myself recommend the NEC 3520. It doesnt support DVD-RAM either tho.
I'm not impressed with it personally. They've done almost no work on the media support end, and the DVR-108 is still far superior when it comes to compatibility with media that is not top end.

Now if ALL you want to do is burn TYG03 media at 16x, then it's probably the best burner on the market!
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I would get the ones with Lightscribe technology if I were to upgrade. Nice labeling system, instead of going with inkjets.
Sure, if you don't mind waiting for close to a half-hour per disc (with first-gen lightscribers), and, of course, paying through the nose for compatible media.

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and colour instead of black and white-ish monochrome
Colour lightscribe media was in development (I don't know if it still is; I've heard companies are more interested now in developing Blu-ray Disc/HD DVD technology, and since lightscribe technology has not been catching on with consumers due to high media costs . . . ), but I'm not holding my breath.

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Old May 24th, 2005, 01:22 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I wouldn't call Lightscribe a nice labelling system... I'd call it a last ditch attempt to get people to pay more of an old technology by adding a lame "added value" controlled basically by a monopoly of companies, who charge way too much of a premium for compatible media.
Stop pulling your punches....tell us what you really think.

Yes, the 109 will not do what you want. The 4163 sells for $69 and has never let me down yet. I use a lot of DVD-RAM with my set top DVD recorder, so it's essential for me, too.
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Old May 24th, 2005, 01:29 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I have the lg 4163b.. if I try to make multiple backups (say 5 in a row & single layer) it seems to make coasters out of the last one or two. if I try to make another copy of the one that bombed the writer will do the same. if I wait a while before making another copy it will be fine. thus, I'm guessing the writer overheats.

not such a huge deal for me since I'm not pumping out the discs like you will be (well, it seems that's what you want to do)..

also, I find that the drive reads discs slower than my dvd drive (pioneer) that I bought like 5 years ago..

but in the end it's not a bad drive.. is anybody else having the same problems that I am having??
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