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Old Nov 26th, 2005, 01:49 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Question my cpu is really hot

i have ASUS MOBO A7V8X-X / AMD ATHLON XP 2500+ (1.82ghz) using original cpu fan / 2x 512mb pc3200 + 1x 256mb pc2700 / 550watts psu

i just ran "ASUS PC PROBE"

it appears my cpu is at 60+C, says

cpu teamperature @ 60c/140f
mb temperature @ 38c/100f
cpu fan @ 3850+
power fan @ "power fan below threshold!!!"
chassis fan @ "chassis fan below threhold!!!"

does that mean my cpu is burning? also looks like my power fan isn't running, what is chassis fan?

sorry i am a newbie at computer
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Old Nov 26th, 2005, 02:03 AM   #2 (permalink)
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If you don't have fans hooked to the mainboard pins the bios can't know they are running. Make sure they are by looking at them. Many PSUs don't plug into the mainboard terminal, some have feedback connections to satisfy the bios.

FYI - to find a noisy fan, slow the suspect with an object (might be finger). Don't poke a screw driver in your Power Supply Unit. You go zapp.

I think there were some bios upgrades for that mainboard to improve temperature reporting.
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Old Nov 26th, 2005, 07:45 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I know AthlonXP's run hot, but that seems a tad on the hot side for stock cooling. My guess is that dust has built up all over the fins inside the heatsink and there's lots of dust around the fan as well. Take your computer outside and give the entire thing a good spraying of compressed air, especially concentrating the cpu heatsink/fan. See if it improves your temperatures then. You could also consider buying some Arctic Silver 5 thermal paste to help drop the cpu's temperature a few extra degrees. Just be sure to clean off the old thermal paste before applying the AS5. If you plan on tinkering inside your computer, make sure you know what you're doing otherwise get a friend who does to help you out.

As for your fans, I've no idea why the above poster is telling you to look for a noisy fan... but make sure they are plugged and running. To see if your psu fan is actually spinning put your hand up to it, shine a flashlight at the fan, or stick a ripped strip of paper in a little to see if it flaps. If the fan is not spinning, you'll have to replace the fan inside it. If you are handy and comfortable dealing with electronics, then leave your psu unplugged for a long while to drain the electricty. Then you can open up the psu and replace the fan inside yourself. Beware that some fans in psu's are soldered to the PCB, you'll have to splice the wires if that's the case. If it is not, this guide should suffice. Tinker at your own risk, the capacitors in there may still retain enough of a charge to cause serious injury or death. It's an easy swap that many have done on their own before, but if you are uncomfortable, just buy a replacement psu.
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Old Nov 26th, 2005, 08:05 AM   #4 (permalink)
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i have ASUS MOBO A7V8X-X / AMD ATHLON XP 2500+ (1.82ghz) using original cpu fan / 2x 512mb pc3200 + 1x 256mb pc2700 / 550watts psu

i just ran "ASUS PC PROBE"

it appears my cpu is at 60+C, says

cpu teamperature @ 60c/140f
mb temperature @ 38c/100f
cpu fan @ 3850+
power fan @ "power fan below threshold!!!"
chassis fan @ "chassis fan below threhold!!!"

does that mean my cpu is burning? also looks like my power fan isn't running, what is chassis fan?

sorry i am a newbie at computer
I will take a guess that you don't have case fans (especially the rear one), while the default setting in Asus Probe try to detect the current fans speed. Seriously, I wouldn't worry too much about your cpu temp, but more on your case temp. To get 38C in winter, your hard disks wouldn't be too healthy in the summer.
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Old Nov 26th, 2005, 08:08 AM   #5 (permalink)
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If that 60 is TRUELY what your cpu is running at (many sensors are just plain wrong), don't worry about it, unless it's causing you trouble. If you're actually running too hot, your system will shut down and that's the time to solve the problem.

Though a mobo temp of 38 seems high, probably lack of case ventilation, or just wrong configuration of fan setup.

Edit: Note, those XP's *DO* run extremely hot... it's just how they are. My old XP ran extremely hot and I had as much cooling installed as possible (aircooled), once I upgraded to an XP64, the temp dropped dramatically.
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Old Nov 26th, 2005, 09:30 AM   #6 (permalink)
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seems like you have a very poorly ventilated case which is making your CPU temps skyrocket... i wouldn't be surprised if your HDD temps are around the same temps too..
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Old Nov 26th, 2005, 10:02 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Good point which slipped my mind.. cool that case or prepare for premature HDD failure.
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Old Nov 26th, 2005, 10:45 AM   #8 (permalink)
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You've gotten some good advice here. Your problem isn't the CPU, it's the high mboard/case temp. Fix the air flow problem in the case and the CPU temp will also fall.
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When installing fans, be sure to match the output on back/front with input on front/back.. personally, if my PSU is blowing air out, then my rear fan is as well.. and the front of the case is pushing cool air in.

Also, make sure you clean that case out every few months as it WILL collect dust like a vacuum.
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As for your fans, I've no idea why the above poster is telling you to look for a noisy fan... but make sure they are plugged and running.
Last night, just before I went to bed the post looked good. Most people bring me a dead computer after a fan has been making a lot of noise. It then goes quiet, things heat-up and then shut down. This Asus mainboard (stock) has a small chipset fan, that tends to fail after 2-3 years.

I did mean to mention (last night) that case fans may not even be there. So no reporting in the bios utility. Lately, I like using Arctic Cooling 3TC . It has the third wire for feedback to the mainboard and they are quiet with a 3 year warranty. Anitec Computers tends to sell this fan for $5.95. I can't seem to connect to their site right now or I'd provide the link.

I hope this is more helpful than I was last night. (more sleep needed)
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Old Nov 26th, 2005, 11:41 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Run with a case side panel removed and see if that lowers the temps.
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Old Nov 26th, 2005, 12:01 PM   #12 (permalink)
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hmm should i be worried?

Field Value
Sensor Properties
Sensor Type Winbond W83697HF (ISA 290h)
Motherboard Name Asus P4S800-MX

Temperatures
Motherboard 44 °C (111 °F)
CPU 47 °C (117 °F)
WDC WD800BB-00JHA0 40 °C (104 °F)

Cooling Fans
CPU 2637 RPM

Voltage Values
CPU Core 1.33 V
Aux 0.11 V
+3.3 V 3.31 V
+5 V 5.08 V
+12 V 11.84 V
+5 V Standby 4.97 V
VBAT Battery 3.33 V
Debug Info F FF 40 FF
Debug Info T 47 44 255
Debug Info V 53 07 CF BD B9 73 A8 (01)


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Old Nov 26th, 2005, 12:20 PM   #13 (permalink)
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looks fine. if your cpu/mobo combo has a defect your temp would be higher and unmanageable (also a burning cigarette smell). if you're worried about over heating then upgrade to a high end case (Chieftec Dragons) or fan.

at least apply a healthy dollop of thermal paste -- that ALWAYS helps.
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Old Nov 26th, 2005, 12:36 PM   #14 (permalink)
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If I recall correctly.. I've seen research which has shown most CPU temperature sensors are inaccurate to the point of some being VERY inaccurate.

People should stop worrying about their actual temperatures and instead focusing on their setup... if it looks like there's good airflow, then it's fine. (Disclaimer: unless you are having ACTUAL hardware issues)
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Get some 120mm fans and passively cool. Make sure you have good case ventilation as well.
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