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Old Mar 1st, 2007, 06:25 PM   #1 (permalink)
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So I got a resolution. I finally got in touch w/ him, and he sent my money back via paypal. The money was deposited into my bank acc today, so I consider the dispute closed.

His explanation was that he used a inet cafe or something (during his work trip) and someone had a key logger and got all his info and hijacked his EMT, Gmail, MSN, etc...

Dunno if it's true, but I'm glad I got my money back.. I definitely won't be using EMT w/ him again though.
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Damn, so it finally happened, I might have gotten ripped off. I bought a plane voucher off User Mikew44 (real name is possibly Mike Wilder)and he scammed me $550. He was supposed to have the ticket booked a week ago, and the flight leaves tomorrow. (I have him in my msn, so it technically wasn't redflagdeals transaction).

I've used the guy 3 times before. 1 I met in person and gave him cash, the 2nd and 3rd time was over msn w/ emt. All 3 times I had no problem. This time around, I asked him if he had any vouchers to Quito Equador. My sister is going there for 1 month for school, and usually I can get vouchers off this guy for around $550. He said he had one, I sent him the money and he was supposed to book it.

The last 2 weeks the guy is always gone, and rarely pops up on messenger. I looked at his RFD account, and it looks like the last activity was last year.

Does anyone know what I can do to try and recover the money?

I was going to call my bank and see if I could get the account info from the EMT transaction, the bank it went to and which branch. If the guy doesn't give me my money back next time I manage to see him, I will file a fraud claim with the local police and give them everything I know about the guy.


Here is the guys original post for selling plane vouchers.. Maybe someone can help me locate which city he was in? (maybe get a phone #)
http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/s...hlight=voucher

I don't want to say I was 100% ripped off, but the guy didn't book the flight, and he hasn't replied to my emails or called me.. If I am able to talk to him next time, I will flat out tell him to give me the money back.. If he hums and haws, then I know I got screwed over..
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Old Mar 1st, 2007, 06:28 PM   #2 (permalink)
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damn that sucks.. i'd be pretty pissed if i was scammed for $550.

the previous deals u did with him, were they for around the same amount of money or was it significantly less? even if people make good deals with u when it comes to low amounts of money, this kind of money can make a good trader turn bad.

anyway, gl.
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Old Mar 1st, 2007, 06:41 PM   #3 (permalink)
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same amounts. Like $550, $500 and like $400.. He booked everything promtly in the past...

The only thing I can think of is that he is broke and wanted free money.. Hopefully I will be able to talk to him and it was all a misunderstandiing (he claimed we was off to vancouver the other day, really busy, etc...).
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Old Mar 1st, 2007, 07:00 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Damn, so it finally happened, I might have gotten ripped off. I bought a plane voucher off User Mikew44 (real name is possibly Mike Wilder)and he scammed me $550. He was supposed to have the ticket booked a week ago, and the flight leaves tomorrow. (I have him in my msn, so it technically wasn't redflagdeals transaction).

I've used the guy 3 times before. 1 I met in person and gave him cash, the 2nd and 3rd time was over msn w/ emt. All 3 times I had no problem. This time around, I asked him if he had any vouchers to Quito Equador. My sister is going there for 1 month for school, and usually I can get vouchers off this guy for around $550. He said he had one, I sent him the money and he was supposed to book it.

The last 2 weeks the guy is always gone, and rarely pops up on messenger. I looked at his RFD account, and it looks like the last activity was last year.

Does anyone know what I can do to try and recover the money?

I was going to call my bank and see if I could get the account info from the EMT transaction, the bank it went to and which branch. If the guy doesn't give me my money back next time I manage to see him, I will file a fraud claim with the local police and give them everything I know about the guy.


Here is the guys original post for selling plane vouchers.. Maybe someone can help me locate which city he was in? (maybe get a phone #)
http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/s...hlight=voucher

I don't want to say I was 100% ripped off, but the guy didn't book the flight, and he hasn't replied to my emails or called me.. If I am able to talk to him next time, I will flat out tell him to give me the money back.. If he hums and haws, then I know I got screwed over..
1)The bank will not give you any details.

2)It is up to the police if they will charge him with fraud.
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Old Mar 2nd, 2007, 12:27 AM   #5 (permalink)
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man that sucks.. So the bank won't tell me the account I transfered the money to? I thought that would show up on my transaction records..

I sure hope the guy didn't rip me off..
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you got screwed.

Wonder why he'd decide to screw you after having completed two previous deals properly? doesn't make sense?

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It ends up happening to everyone at one time or another. It's happened to me before. Wasn't the first and it probably won't be the last. Good thing it's rare. Sucks to hear.
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man that sucks, it was someone your "trust" too. i hope it still works out for you.
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Why would you send money first if he has it in voucher form.....
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Old Mar 2nd, 2007, 02:15 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Didin't realize there was a fraud forum. :s Someone can move it there if they want.

I sent the money first since the voucher (usually good for various locations) has to be given to the airport desk in person.. Once the flight is booked, the voucher is used and cant be refunded/returned. So basically you need to give the $$$ first if you want the ticket booked..
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Darn...seems like he played you...

The classic: "earn the trust, then take it away".

I would go to the police immediately to report this.
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same amounts. Like $550, $500 and like $400.. He booked everything promtly in the past...

The only thing I can think of is that he is broke and wanted free money.. Hopefully I will be able to talk to him and it was all a misunderstandiing (he claimed we was off to vancouver the other day, really busy, etc...).
He might've had like a car accident or something too~!
if u've dealt with him before like 3 times, i dun think he'll scam you now.. or he might be really busy?
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That sucks!! Giving check instead of cash and keeping the updated address info is always a plus point. Hope you get your money back.
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1)The bank will not give you any details.

2)It is up to the police if they will charge him with fraud.
It is actually up to the Crown, not the police. The police can only recommend charges. The Crown can actually press charges.
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That sucks!! Giving check instead of cash and keeping the updated address info is always a plus point. Hope you get your money back.
I'm doing that from now on.. That way I can get all the physical info. Definitely make it a little more "risky" to steal with the fear of having to deal with the person you ripped off face to face.
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