If there were an election today, who would you vote for? Part 2

Let's see if anything has changed since the last poll.
Bump as you vote please. Thanks.

What? No Harper fans here? Or, are they still sleeping?

Would it make any difference?
They come, mooch/steal and go.

Originally Posted by sk8

Would it make any difference?
They come, mooch/steal and go.

Also in the mean time drag us into a stupid war with a country whose name none of can pronounce right. Plus all kinds of cuts that will only benefit the wealthy.

looks like harper's forcing the election will make me vote martin

"looks like harper's forcing the election will make me vote martin"

That is a silly reason. The election will happen soon regardless. Why wait for Gomery?

"the Commissioner be directed to perform his duties without expressing any conclusion or recommendation regarding the civil or criminal liability of any person or organization and to ensure that the conduct of the inquiry does not jeopardize any ongoing criminal investigation or criminal proceedings;"

Originally Posted by spidermoore

"the Commissioner be directed to perform his duties without expressing any conclusion or recommendation regarding the civil or criminal liability of any person or organization and to ensure that the conduct of the inquiry does not jeopardize any ongoing criminal investigation or criminal proceedings;"

I know you think that’s an ACE of an argument you have there (since you have now posted the same thing twice) but it really isn't, it only shows your contempt for a fair trial. The facts will still be released, and that is all that is needed. Do you really need somebody to tell you what to think?

Who needs the facts of the trial. The "FACT" that Martin is willing to sell his budget in order to retain power is good enough for me. He made a $7+ Billion swing in an attempt to save his hide. Before that, I would have preferred to wait until the Gomery report was produced. Now, I have enough evidence that this is not the person or the government I want leading my country.

Originally Posted by Lange

Who needs the facts of the trial. The "FACT" that Martin is willing to sell his budget in order to retain power is good enough for me. He made a $7+ Billion swing in an attempt to save his hide. Before that, I would have preferred to wait until the Gomery report was produced. Now, I have enough evidence that this is not the person or the government I want leading my country.

ah, what the hell, it's not his $7B anyway...

Originally Posted by Lange

Who needs the facts of the trial. The "FACT" that Martin is willing to sell his budget in order to retain power is good enough for me. He made a $7+ Billion swing in an attempt to save his hide. Before that, I would have preferred to wait until the Gomery report was produced. Now, I have enough evidence that this is not the person or the government I want leading my country.

or instead of selling his budget to stay in power, maybe it shows a willingness to work with others in order to get something done while in power rather then have every bill shot down because of not having enough votes to get it passed. He's sharing power with the NDP, not hogging power.

"I know you think that’s an ACE of an argument you have there (since you have now posted the same thing twice) but it really isn't, it only shows your contempt for a fair trial. The facts will still be released, and that is all that is needed. Do you really need somebody to tell you what to think?"

You just keep beating that strawman you keep setting up. Beat it good.

I don't need somebody to tell me what to think, that's why I'm not waiting for ONE GUYS OPINION on this, especially one guy appointed by the Liberals.

We don't need to wait for Gomery to know that the Liberals are and have been trying to cover this up as best as they could for YEARS. The specific people involved and to what degree is what Gomery may ferret out but the fact that the Liberals are waist deep in corruption is not in any doubt.

Originally Posted by Ojam

I know you think that’s an ACE of an argument you have there (since you have now posted the same thing twice) but it really isn't, it only shows your contempt for a fair trial. The facts will still be released, and that is all that is needed. Do you really need somebody to tell you what to think?

What facts have not yet been released? (Except for some testimony still under publication ban due to pending criminal trials..)

Everything is available from www.gomery.ca.

Originally Posted by Ojam

or instead of selling his budget to stay in power, maybe it shows a willingness to work with others in order to get something done while in power rather then have every bill shot down because of not having enough votes to get it passed. He's sharing power with the NDP, not hogging power.

Are you serious? Do you actually believe that? The word apologist is thrown around with more frequency than I would like...but come on! The timing is kind of odd don't you think? Funny how he is willing to "share power" when he is backed into a corner and not before it. Would you expect him to have been as Barney-esque with a majority gov't? He is selling out in the purest sence of the word, sacraficing the ideals of his party in order to retain power.

Originally Posted by spidermoore

"looks like harper's forcing the election will make me vote martin"

That is a silly reason. The election will happen soon regardless. Why wait for Gomery?

"the Commissioner be directed to perform his duties without expressing any conclusion or recommendation regarding the civil or criminal liability of any person or organization and to ensure that the conduct of the inquiry does not jeopardize any ongoing criminal investigation or criminal proceedings;"

nothing silly about that...i don't want early elections...we just had elections last year

Originally Posted by spidermoore

You just keep beating that strawman you keep setting up. Beat it good.
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No straw man needed, you said yourself that we shouldn't wait for the inquiry because it wasn't going to make any judgments. That sure sounds like you want somebody to tell you what to think.