honda civic si pricing $26K

quite expensive for an econobox if you axe me.

Thats a bargain. Similar powertrain to the rsx-s for $7k less.

Originally Posted by sg1138

quite expensive for an econobox if you axe me.

what??? if i heard correctly, this is now the former "SiR" coupe, now consistent with the US badging.
price is low, and due to the huge demand there will be no selling below MSRP just like the gen 6th Sir. read the specs, its not an econobox.
price is HOT!

Originally Posted by sg1138

quite expensive for an econobox if you axe me.

lol good thing no one axed you 'cause that deal is so good it deserves to be posted at the Hot Deals section!

Originally Posted by sg1138

quite expensive for an econobox if you axe me.

can u think of any other car with an 2L na engine producing 197hp w/ a 6speed gearbox equppied with LSD running extremly great gas milege at this price range? also, the RSX-S doesnt even have LSD..

the sentra SER specV comes near, but it is fatter than the civic in every single way.

Originally Posted by DISH

Thats a bargain. Similar powertrain to the rsx-s for $7k less.

Same hp as the RSX-S, plus a limited slip diff. Something the RSX sorely needs.

26K for the Civic is a bargain.

Originally Posted by oldsnail

can u think of any other car with an 2L na engine producing 197hp w/ a 6speed gearbox equppied with LSD running extremly great gas milege at this price range? also, the RSX-S doesnt even have LSD..

the sentra SER specV comes near, but it is fatter than the civic in every single way.

Discontinued SRT-4 would rape the Civic. Too bad they don't make it anymore.

Originally Posted by airodus

Discontinued SRT-4 would rape the Civic. Too bad they don't make it anymore.

Do you know why? cause noone like it except irresponsible kids thinking it a "Pocket Viper" LOL.

SRT4 sales is such a joke, they cant manage to sell it due to low reliability.


To add to the topic, remember its drive by wire so the slower reponse from the gas penal. It doesnt matter if it has 197HP. Search for their 0-100KM time and quarter mile time. You will be disappointed. Moreover, you can the from the engine bay, there is no space for mods. It would be damn hard to make a race header for it, yes you can make one but not efficient enough. ECU tunning is also limited, not using wide-band 02 sensor is a mistake.

Only thing i like is LSD but again, its drive by wire. There is no point if there is a delay.

Originally Posted by MameXP

Do you know why? cause noone like it except irresponsible kids thinking it a "Pocket Viper" LOL.

SRT4 sales is such a joke, they cant manage to sell it due to low reliability.


To add to the topic, remember its drive by wire so the slower reponse from the gas penal. It doesnt matter if it has 197HP. Search for their 0-100KM time and quarter mile time. You will be disappointed. Moreover, you can the from the engine bay, there is no space for mods. It would be damn hard to make a race header for it, yes you can make one but not efficient enough. ECU tunning is also limited, not using wide-band 02 sensor is a mistake.

Only thing i like is LSD but again, its drive by wire. There is no point if there is a delay.

SRT4 does exactly what it was designed to do. Haul ass on the cheap. Now, that is a very, very, very niche market and that's why the sales are low. Overall, there are much better balanced cars for the price, but in terms of pure speed, there's nothing that can touch it at that price.

Because of the drive by wire, the Civic Si does not even come close to being as quick as the RSX-S. So there will still be a market for the RSX-S (better performance and luxury). However, the base model RSX might lose some sales to the new Civic since at the same price point, the Civic Si beats the pants off the RSX.

Originally Posted by oldsnail

can u think of any other car with an 2L na engine producing 197hp w/ a 6speed gearbox equppied with LSD running extremly great gas milege at this price range? also, the RSX-S doesnt even have LSD..

Originally Posted by airodus

Discontinued SRT-4 would rape the Civic. Too bad they don't make it anymore.

FYI, 2L na = 2 Litre naturally aspirated engine; in terms means engines that are neither turbocharged nor supercharged

Originally Posted by MameXP

To add to the topic, remember its drive by wire so the slower reponse from the gas penal. It doesnt matter if it has 197HP. Search for their 0-100KM time and quarter mile time. You will be disappointed. Moreover, you can the from the engine bay, there is no space for mods.

Technically they could modify the ECU to enhance the TBW car to be quicker than a similar non-TBW vehicle. Renntech & Kleeman has done this for several Mercedes. Premise being the opposite of the panic stop braking system; where a quick lift off the the brake pedal will launch the car perfectly.

As for mods: I'm pretty sure i've seen some superchargers/turbochargers for the new car already on SEMA press material.

I wouldn't buy/drive a Civic but it's a nice car for it's segment.

Originally Posted by oldsnail

FYI, 2L na = 2 Litre naturally aspirated engine; in terms means engines that are neither turbocharged nor supercharged

yah no kidding. if i am to take what you said literally:

"can u think of any other car with an 2L na engine producing 197hp w/ a 6speed gearbox equppied with LSD running extremly great gas milege at this price range?"

It's so specific that it basically amounts to:

"can u think of any other civic si at this price range?"

If you're not being rhetorical and are looking for a similar or better car in terms of price/performance. Then you got the SRT-4 (well maybe not the gas mileage, hahah).

That's not bad considering I had a 2002 SIR which had an MSRP of 25,500

this new car has a better I-vtec engine, LSD and lots of other upgrades like 17" Rims...

It's around the same performance as an RSX-S but for alot less $$$...

It'd consider it but it's too expensive.

I'll stick with my $6500 integra GSR for now....

n00b question, wtf is drive by wire?

and wtf is lsd?

Originally Posted by dablackgoku1234

n00b question, wtf is drive by wire?

and wtf is lsd?

ditto, i want to know.