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Old Nov 15th, 2004, 08:45 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Father Fights to get into Canada after Mother of his Children Murdered

The father of three children left without a mother after a murder suicide is fighting to come to Canada, but without a visa he's not being allowed in.

Matthew Redhead was deported to Grenada four years ago because he didn't have proper documentation to live and work in Canada.

The mother of his children, Cimmeron Doncaster was found dead by her seven year old son with multiple cutting wounds to the neck, early friday morning.

A man believed to be her boyfriend had hanged himself beside her body.

Doncaster's son lead the other children to safety in the dark.

The children's grandmother is worried what will happen to the kids if they will be split up in foster homes. She is also tyring to get immigration canada to allow Redhead back in the country for Doncaster's funeral.
This story has been all over the news this morning. From what we know this guy doesn't have a criminal record. He simply over stayed his visa therefore he was deported. The best for the children now is to be with their father. Shouldn't we make an exception and let this guy back into Canada? This man came to Canada, married a lady that was a Canadian citizen. They had three kids all born in Canada. Why can't our friggin goverment let the father back in so we can reunite the kids with their father?
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Old Nov 15th, 2004, 09:03 AM   #2 (permalink)
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whoever voted no is a bastard, i put a curse on you and you will have bad luck today.. i was gonna wish you to get in a fatal car accident where a glass gets stuck in yout neck and you have to be air lifted to the states where you are denied access, but that's not very nice...
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Old Nov 15th, 2004, 09:17 AM   #3 (permalink)
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This story has been all over the news this morning. From what we know this guy doesn't have a criminal record. He simply over stayed his visa therefore he was deported. The best for the children now is to be with their father. Shouldn't we make an exception and let this guy back into Canada? This man came to Canada, married a lady that was a Canadian citizen. They had three kids all born in Canada. Why can't our friggin goverment let the father back in so we can reunite the kids with their father?
Well, he's 35 or 37 and she was 24. That means he was banging a 15-year old when he was 26 or 28. Not cool.

Why didn't he apply for citizenship after getting married? I thought it was almost automatic.
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Old Nov 15th, 2004, 09:22 AM   #4 (permalink)
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whoever voted no is a bastard, i put a curse on you and you will have bad luck today.. i was gonna wish you to get in a fatal car accident where a glass gets stuck in yout neck and you have to be air lifted to the states where you are denied access, but that's not very nice...
You jackass just made me spit my apple juice all over the monitor! However there is a flaw with your curse. Fatal accident means he'll be dead so airlifting to the Us would be meaning less.

Let me add to that moron who voted no.

I'll friggin
I'll friggin tie you to a friggin bedpost
with your ass cheeks spread out and all
Right?
Put a hanger on a friggn stove and let that crap sit there
for like a half hour
Take it off and stick it in your ass slow like
Tssssssss

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Old Nov 15th, 2004, 09:24 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Well, he's 35 or 37 and she was 24. That means he was banging a 15-year old when he was 26 or 28. Not cool.

Why didn't he apply for citizenship after getting married? I thought it was almost automatic.
The mother was 18 when they got married. Who knows why. Bottom line is he's got no criminal record. Why not let him in? We've got enough people with over-stayed visas at Pacific Mall alone. We let people with multiple criminal offenses back into the country 3-4 times.
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Old Nov 15th, 2004, 10:11 AM   #6 (permalink)
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damn that was nice that's the person's reaction

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kids can be reunited with father by moving to grenada
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Old Nov 15th, 2004, 10:30 AM   #8 (permalink)
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i think the family moved to Canada for the opposite reason why they won't go to grenada, also note grenada charges for their citzenship...alot..
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Old Nov 15th, 2004, 10:40 AM   #9 (permalink)
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The mother was 18 when they got married. Who knows why. Bottom line is he's got no criminal record. Why not let him in? We've got enough people with over-stayed visas at Pacific Mall alone. We let people with multiple criminal offenses back into the country 3-4 times.
Who cares how old she was when she got married? He was taking advantage of a CHILD. And look what it got her...three kids, welfare, an absentee father for her kids, and murdered. He may have no criminal record, but he's certainly no angel.

I think we should wait for more information to emerge about the father before we start jumping on the bandwagon. There's more than one side to a story.

Why didn't he apply for citizenship when they got married?
If he did, why wasn't it granted?
Why couldn't he renew his Visa?
What has he been doing all this time in Grenada to reunite his family?

Too many questions.
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Old Nov 15th, 2004, 12:12 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Who cares how old she was when she got married? He was taking advantage of a CHILD. And look what it got her...three kids, welfare, an absentee father for her kids, and murdered. He may have no criminal record, but he's certainly no angel.

I think we should wait for more information to emerge about the father before we start jumping on the bandwagon. There's more than one side to a story.

Why didn't he apply for citizenship when they got married?
If he did, why wasn't it granted?
Why couldn't he renew his Visa?
What has he been doing all this time in Grenada to reunite his family?

Too many questions.
You have to remember that the father didn't do anything illegal. The legal age in Canada to consent to sexual intercourse is 14 years old. This man was no angle. Sure he wasn't but neither are all the other young dumbasses in society today impregnating all these girls. You see them everywhere at 16 years old with babystrollers at mall. These kids now have no parents looking after them. Eventually they'll probably going to get split up or put in foster homes. I don't know what the guy has been doing in Grenada. I couldn't understand a word he said this morning when he was on the radio because he was balling his eyes out through out the entire interview.

We can't send these kids back to Grenada. How does that help them? Take them out of Canada and put them into a 3rd world country? The kids want to be with the father and the father wants to be with the kids. He wants to take care of the kids. The mother of the victim is fighting to get the father here so he can take care of them. Bottom line....let this guy in. We allow many deported Jamaicans with criminal records back in why can't we let this guy in? Exceptions have to be made when a case involves kids.
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Old Nov 15th, 2004, 12:30 PM   #11 (permalink)
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The legal age in Canada to consent to sexual intercourse is 14 years old
I seriously doubt that statement especially given the age of the OTHER party at the time.
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Old Nov 15th, 2004, 12:30 PM   #12 (permalink)
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You have to remember that the father didn't do anything illegal. The legal age in Canada to consent to sexual intercourse is 14 years old. This man was no angle. Sure he wasn't but neither are all the other young dumbasses in society today impregnating all these girls. You see them everywhere at 16 years old with babystrollers at mall. These kids now have no parents looking after them. Eventually they'll probably going to get split up or put in foster homes.
Just because something is legal doesn't mean it's right. How many adults do you know that would nail a 15-year-old?

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I don't know what the guy has been doing in Grenada. I couldn't understand a word he said this morning when he was on the radio because he was balling his eyes out through out the entire interview.
Which is why I'm reserving judgment until more of the story comes out. We don't know for sure if he has a criminal record. We don't know why he didn't or couldn't get citizenship. We don't know what he's been doing in Grenada.

We DO know he is of questionable moral character.

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We can't send these kids back to Grenada. How does that help them? Take them out of Canada and put them into a 3rd world country? The kids want to be with the father and the father wants to be with the kids. He wants to take care of the kids.
Or, he just wants to get out of Grenada, which was 90 per cent destroyed after the hurricanes.

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The mother of the victim is fighting to get the father here so he can take care of them. Bottom line....let this guy in. We allow many deported Jamaicans with criminal records back in why can't we let this guy in? Exceptions have to be made when a case involves kids.
The vast flaws in our immigration system do not mean everyone with kids should get a free pass. There's more to the story, and I want to hear it.
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Old Nov 15th, 2004, 12:36 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Keep the bastard away from the country. We have enough problems controlling who we let in legally, nevermind illegally. Send the kids away with him instead.

Actually, close the immigration doors for 10 years until we can bring the welfare/unemployment rate down some. Why let more people in when there's already a bunch without work or living off my salary?
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WRONG. The legal age for concent IS 14. It doesnt matter how old the other partner is.

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Old Nov 15th, 2004, 02:01 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I vote undecided because there is not enough information to decide.

Nobody knows the character of this father is. What was his role? Did he support the kids? Does he love his kids? Will he be a good father? Is this just a ticket for him to come to Canada and then dump his kids later? Is this the best for the kids?

Not enough data to compute.
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