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Old Aug 31st, 2009, 03:23 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Failure to Surrender Permit ticket

So my mom got stopped for some reason. Unfortunately, her English isn't anywhere good enough to understand what the reason was.

Either way, she ended up with a "Failure to Surrender Permit for Motor Vehicle" HTA 7 5) A ticket. She had her license and insurance but didn't even know what a permit was.

So, I'm wondering if anyone has experience in dealing with this ticket in York Region.

Do we just go for a First Attendance meeting with a prosecutor or do we actually have to go through with a court date booking?

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Old Aug 31st, 2009, 04:19 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Go fill out a form for First Attendance, they will mail you a date/time in 4-6 weeks. On that date, when you meet up with the prosecutor (not in the actually court but a small room next to it) just show the permit and they will drop it.
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Old Aug 31st, 2009, 05:03 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Thanks.

Seems simple enough. It's just a complete mess at the York Region court. There were about 50 people sitting around waiting and just a single counter open. Couldn't even get around to asking this simple question.
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Old Aug 31st, 2009, 05:08 PM   #4 (permalink)
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She had her license and insurance but didn't even know what a permit was.
I would assume the cop meant vehicle registration, in that case it looks like she didn't give it to him if all she has was the license and insurance slip.
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Old Aug 31st, 2009, 05:50 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I would assume the cop meant vehicle registration, in that case it looks like she didn't give it to him if all she has was the license and insurance slip.
+1 Bingo. She did not produce all the documents she was asked for. You may as well pay the ticket, just because she could not understand is a poor excuse. Heaven forbid something more serious should happen, how will she be able to deal with that?
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Old Aug 31st, 2009, 06:56 PM   #6 (permalink)
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+1 Bingo. She did not produce all the documents she was asked for. You may as well pay the ticket, just because she could not understand is a poor excuse. Heaven forbid something more serious should happen, how will she be able to deal with that?
Yea...I was just thinking that...I understand that not everyone has the best grasp of English but what if she was in a fender bender, and had to produce all the important documents?

Anyways, I'm sure if you went to court you could get it reduced, but lacking English skills aren't grounds for dismissal...
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Old Aug 31st, 2009, 07:08 PM   #7 (permalink)
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You might be able to take the documents to the station and have the ticket forfeited, they did that for me when i forgot my license one time in another wallet but i had all the other papers ...the cop verbally told me to do that but as you're mom doesn't understand English that well ...i'm not sure if the cop gave her that option? This was downtown though.
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