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Old Feb 24th, 2007, 09:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default equalc51392--Equal Choi is a scammer

I hope I'm not overstepping my bounds in posting a complaint coming from HowardForums.com--at that site, equalc51392 is known as vcrulez15, where he has been banned for scamming me; his hotmail address has been posted here, and it is a match, vcrulez15@hotmail.com. His real name is Equal Choi. Anyhow, here's the scoop:

LONG STORY SHORT: I (foolishly) sent him a money order for 290 Canadian dollars and he cashed it but insisted it wasn't him; this went on for months but recently admitted it was him under pressure but backed out on returning the money.

Here's the full story:

Foolishly I agreed to pay him by money order because he insisted he could not get PayPal because he is a minor. I sent a $290 Canadian money order to him on December 11 to cover the phone and shipping costs. At this point, I saw he had continued to post for offers on the phone. When confronted, he said that it was for his brother's phone that he was selling and subsequently 'closed' the thread using a poll. However, weeks went by and the money order apparently hadn't arrived; I looked into the process of getting it replaced, but had to wait until January 10. On the 10th I called Canada Post and found that it had been cashed on the 27th of December. vc15rulez had contacted me after that date wondering if I knew where it was; I had told him that I was sure it was lost by that point.

Anyhow, this began a long cycle of lies by vc15rulez. He said that his address was not the one he had given me, but that it was a mistake. He asked for documentation on who cashed it, which I had to wait for, but I found that the postal code he said was his matched the original address he had given me. He then claimed that address was that of his friend, but he wanted proof to confront him with; later he said that Canada Post had recovered the money from his 'friend' but that it was frozen and I needed to call and have it unfrozen. This was not true. He has the money and has admitted it under pressure; he agreed to return the money and then backed out. I've given him a lot of time and room on this, but he's clearly scammed me.

This post will soon be in the public fraud forum at howardforums. I'd like to warn off any potential buyers or sellers from dealing with Equal Choi, and if possible, seek an IP ban for him, as other people have suspected/experienced shady dealings from equalc51392 on this site. I also have his address and postal code, if it's kosher to post those.

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Old Feb 24th, 2007, 10:34 PM   #2 (permalink)
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yea i bought **** shoes off him for 50$, which werent in brand new condition as he stated, but i bought them anyway... Yeah hes a korean for sure. This guy vcrulez15 may also be the other 'vince' accounts on hofo that I've caught for potentially scamming. Hes definitly around 17-19years old, he drove a car to meeet up with me and looked liek a teen.
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Old Feb 24th, 2007, 11:43 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Old Feb 25th, 2007, 02:25 AM   #4 (permalink)
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There are already many and many stories about this Equal Choi Kid (He's a korean btw, I could tell from the font he use on msn). I think it's time to take action against him.

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/s...d.php?t=411252

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/s...d.php?t=411499

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/s...archid=4466704

Kid..if you are reading this thread, and if you are looking to help your parents as you stated (http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/s...t=equalc51392), you better split back out the $290. Stealing is not the right way, and you'll end up be talking to a cop instead of us.
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Old Feb 25th, 2007, 10:59 AM   #5 (permalink)
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it's thickening way too much.

these two guys should be BANNED.

NOW.
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Old Feb 25th, 2007, 07:07 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I've talked to his mother before, he is Chinese(Cantonese)
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Old Feb 25th, 2007, 07:10 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Why are there so many threads on these two guys lol
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Old Feb 25th, 2007, 09:30 PM   #8 (permalink)
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bring printouts of all your emails with him including the advanced HEADERS on them, and all proof you have, including the canada post proof of the m.o. being cashed, etc... to the local police station, and ask for the fraud squad their. i think 9-5pm mon to fri only. Tell them your whole story, and give them all the evidence, and that will get your ball rolling. Then get his local number by looking it up, last name, address, however you can, if it is not unlisted, and call his parents, and tell them what happened, and how you have already gone to police, etc...
THEN, there is some internet fraud squad too, etc... check the sticky in here. It will take 2 months prob. but then you will get your $$ back.

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I hope I'm not overstepping my bounds in posting a complaint coming from HowardForums.com--at that site, equalc51392 is known as vcrulez15, where he has been banned for scamming me; his hotmail address has been posted here, and it is a match, vcrulez15@hotmail.com. His real name is Equal Choi. Anyhow, here's the scoop:

LONG STORY SHORT: I (foolishly) sent him a money order for 290 Canadian dollars and he cashed it but insisted it wasn't him; this went on for months but recently admitted it was him under pressure but backed out on returning the money.

Here's the full story:

Foolishly I agreed to pay him by money order because he insisted he could not get PayPal because he is a minor. I sent a $290 Canadian money order to him on December 11 to cover the phone and shipping costs. At this point, I saw he had continued to post for offers on the phone. When confronted, he said that it was for his brother's phone that he was selling and subsequently 'closed' the thread using a poll. However, weeks went by and the money order apparently hadn't arrived; I looked into the process of getting it replaced, but had to wait until January 10. On the 10th I called Canada Post and found that it had been cashed on the 27th of December. vc15rulez had contacted me after that date wondering if I knew where it was; I had told him that I was sure it was lost by that point.

Anyhow, this began a long cycle of lies by vc15rulez. He said that his address was not the one he had given me, but that it was a mistake. He asked for documentation on who cashed it, which I had to wait for, but I found that the postal code he said was his matched the original address he had given me. He then claimed that address was that of his friend, but he wanted proof to confront him with; later he said that Canada Post had recovered the money from his 'friend' but that it was frozen and I needed to call and have it unfrozen. This was not true. He has the money and has admitted it under pressure; he agreed to return the money and then backed out. I've given him a lot of time and room on this, but he's clearly scammed me.

This post will soon be in the public fraud forum at howardforums. I'd like to warn off any potential buyers or sellers from dealing with Equal Choi, and if possible, seek an IP ban for him, as other people have suspected/experienced shady dealings from equalc51392 on this site. I also have his address and postal code, if it's kosher to post those.

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Old Feb 25th, 2007, 10:42 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Looks like he's back.

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/s...10&postcount=9
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Old Feb 25th, 2007, 11:20 PM   #10 (permalink)
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LOL! Thats the dumbest thing i've seen on the internet.
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Old Feb 27th, 2007, 11:30 AM   #11 (permalink)
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ya i think he is cb4-mvp.

its the same number as the vcrulez in hofo.

also i pm'd him for a xbox 360 controller stating exactly that he should only call me during a certain time. and he decided to call me right away to which the time i stated i was busy. I wanted to cuss him off right from the start of the call. anyways he kept hassling me on the phone, so i just turned the deal off.

definitely a hard user to deal with, doesnt understand either english, common sense, dealing respect, or all three.
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Judging by Facebook, it looks like the kid is in 9th grade and goes to Earl Haig Secondary School. I'm sure that's enough info to track this punk down.
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Judging by Facebook, it looks like the kid is in 9th grade and goes to Earl Haig Secondary School. I'm sure that's enough info to track this punk down.
hahah man, this kid ain't too bright now is he..............
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speechless...
wth is that..
MODS PLEASE BAN this user if you hadn't already!
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Old Feb 27th, 2007, 03:20 PM   #15 (permalink)
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A verified member of Scat lover dot com as well.... Disgusting! I need to bleach my eyes.....
wow.. btw how did you know... do you go to that site too. lol.. either way BAN equalc51392 !
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