Engineering at McMaster or UofT??

ok i statred a thread back in april http://forums.redflagdeals.com/showthread.php?t=154729

and iv read through it like twice already and iv narrowed it done to UofT and Mcmaster (for Computer Engineering)

Final accepatance deadline is June 13 so i thought ill make one last thread on this and make the right decission with your help

university campus are good and stuff but UofT is so much bigger
and in the last thread someone mentioned that UofT is a deathtrap and youll have no life but your degree is more valuble and internationally known and on the other hand Mac students say its pretty good and its rep is good as well but not at par with UofT


thanks

Haha. I don't know why, but it's a trend at UofT to scare people away. It makes us feel... better? I don't know.

But let me tell you this, it's hard yes. But definitely not *impossible*. If you love what you do, (ECE mostly do) then you'll have a blast.

At both schools.

Since I'm at UofT, and I know a lot of ECE and nSci people, I'd recommend us. It's an internationally known school, the PEY program is awesome, and you'll make tonnes of friends. No, it's not a deathtrap. No, it's not impossible. And yes, you will have a life. An awesome one if I may add. Kids in engineering here are the brightest yet most fun people I know. They love to party, and they definitely party hard.

Mac is also a good school, don't get me wrong. But it's tucked away in Hamilton, vs UofT that's nested in Downtown Toronto. Tonnes of things to do here, not nearly as much as in Hamilton.

Whichever you pick, you've made a good choice.

Good luck!

honestly id like to go to UofT but they way people described me UofT is

"You get the same degree have the same qualifications but UofT just might have a little more edge but at UofT you will be working 2x as much as compared to Mac"

i dont know if that statement is true or not but
im not ready to work that hard as im struggleing in Grade 12 to keep a B-/B average. Also Mac fees are so much more expensive and they wont help me out as much as UofT (bursuries)

UofT is willing to pay all the diffrence from what OSAP gives me but Mac will pay like 1500 MAX to cover me

go UfT if you can do it! Its easier at Mac

btw, I don't know about you but Uft does jack about deregulated fees..just here and there for bursaries..its not guranteed everytime..

If you want to die go to U of T, if you want an ass kicking go to Mac..

either way, prepare for hell.... just know what you are getting into.. in the end both universities lead you to the same place. With a B average, U of T won't let you in ECE.. I had 88% and they wouldn't take me many years ago.... I'm glad they didn't because I wouldn't be where I am today if I hadn't gone to Mac and done very well in my final years..

Haha, If you haven't read enough I'm in Engineering at UT.

You definetely pick up a lot of skills. There are a lot of chances to get out, party, relax. But the work is hard, and it's long hours. You have to learn to adapt to study habits and the courseload.

I got a 6K scolarship for Mac and I still chose UT. It just depends on the atmosphere you want. Skule(TM) is pretty energetic, we have the Lady Godiva Memorial Band, Godiva Week, Frosh Week, about a zillion other clubs, EngSoc and more to offer.

Thing is though, Mac usually has more keggers, more random stuff like that I guess. But the networking skills and the opportunity are second to none (and beats UW, although I think UW has an overall better eng program).

"You get the same degree have the same qualifications but UofT just might have a little more edge but at UofT you will be working 2x as much as compared to Mac"

Well, probably not 2x as much, but I would say moreso. If you're already lacking in the marks department, I'd probably go for Mac. If you really really have aspirations to graduate from UT, then go there. Otherwise if you want the degree, Mac isn't a bad alternative.

One thing that you have to keep in mind is that Mac has a common first year stream while at U of T you get into the department you want to right away. So if you are all for Elec for example, you might not get into that program in second year at Mac unless your marks are high enough or you were offered "Free Choice" with your admission letter. With U of T you don't have to worry about that.

On the other hand if you're not sure which discipline you want to go into Mac might be the better choice, since first year will expose you to all the different disciplines to see which flavour you like. You might be surprised that at the end of your first year to see that you may no longer want the program you wanted.

I got into the same uni's you did and I chose UofT for ECE (it was an alternative placement, 1st choice was MechEng). My grades aren't the greatest either, I had a flat 80 avg at midterm and I'm doing pretty bad in physics right now but I'm still gonna pursue it.

I know its going to be hell when I get there, but if I can get through it, I'm sure it'll be worth it. I'm also planning on living on res (1st choice was New College) for 1st year just to get to know the people I'll be studying with for the next 4 years.

I think it was UofT's reputation coupled with the shock of getting into their ECE program that made me choose them for uni. Their acceptance letter caught me completely off guard and I was positive I wouldn't get in. After getting accepted there (along with Waterloo), I decided to take up the challenge and go for Engineering. Hopefully, if I really study hard, it won't be that bad and maybe I'll even have some fun in the process. Whichever university you choose, you can't go wrong, both universities have great reputations and I'm sure you'll be just fine in either one

Originally Posted by skeletor

If you want to die go to U of T, if you want an ass kicking go to Mac..

either way, prepare for hell.... just know what you are getting into.. in the end both universities lead you to the same place. With a B average, U of T won't let you in ECE.. I had 88% and they wouldn't take me many years ago.... I'm glad they didn't because I wouldn't be where I am today if I hadn't gone to Mac and done very well in my final years..

haha you would be suprised at the average of this generation of students (me being one of them), heard some guy got into waterloo for CompSci with 79

Originally Posted by Whitewind

haha you would be suprised at the average of this generation of students (me being one of them), heard some guy got into waterloo for CompSci with 79

I was surprised I got into Waterloo (Geological Engineering) with my flat 80. I was even more surprised when I got their admission package and it said I need to maintain a 70% avg to retain my placement. Maybe they're really hurting for new undergrads?

Originally Posted by h_f_p_3

I was surprised I got into Waterloo (Geological Engineering) with my flat 80. I was even more surprised when I got their admission package and it said I need to maintain a 70% avg to retain my placement. Maybe they're really hurting for new undergrads?

When I applied to Waterloo for Software Eng, with a 93% OAC average, I got shot down. Friggin' bums. I had to settle with ECE at UofT.

skeletor i did get into UofT

but in there letter they never stated what average i should maintain
for Mac they said to maintain 75% avg

and emptypocket i wasnt given free choice so i guess i ll have to do well in order for me to get into the stream i selected but then agoin i dont want to take that risk....


agghh so much issues just to pick a university

Originally Posted by beatbox

skeletor i did get into UofT

but in there letter they never stated what average i should maintain
for Mac they said to maintain 75% avg

and emptypocket i wasnt given free choice so i guess i ll have to do well in order for me to get into the stream i selected but then agoin i dont want to take that risk....


agghh so much issues just to pick a university

What stream did you select? Just curious.

computer engineering but now that i think about it i want to get into electrical or mechanical