DIY oil and filter change

Where I can get good deal(wholesale) on oil filter in Vancouver,BC need Box of 10 ea.
Model # Farm PH7317 for New Honda and Nissan, Napa ACDelco,CDN tire, or any other Brand will do.

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farm sp?
Fram...

Stay away from Fram. their filters are made of cardboard.
Canadian Tire Filters are rebadged something, i forget. but way better than Fram.

Ebay.

Originally Posted by feet_

farm sp?
Fram...

Stay away from Fram. their filters are made of cardboard.
Canadian Tire Filters are rebadged something, i forget. but way better than Fram.

Ebay.

No Canadian Tire filters are rebadged Fram Extra Guard (orange) filters. Read the side of the filter and you'll see the Fram part number on most of them.

The Fram Orange filters are not good, you're right. The Tough Guard isn't too bad and the Extended Guard (Called the "synthetic oil filter" in Canada; Called the X2 in the US) is actually a pretty good filter.

But you get what you pay for... The average Fram orange filter will probably cost like $5; the Tough Guard probably $10 and the Synthetic/X2 perhaps $15.

Fram also has a new "high mileage" filter out but I haven't heard anything about that since it is new.

Mobil 1 and K&N Filters are good, the former is hard to find. Anyway I'd honestly either buy a Mobil, K&N, or Fram Extended Guard filter, otherwise just get the OEM filter because most of the cheap ones are exactly that--cheap.

the current OEM honda filters are also rebadged FRAM extra guards.

If you can, try to get your hands on some purolator pureone filters. They're much better than FRAM filters, but not as expensive as K/N and mobil1 filters. The part number is PL14610, which is the size equivalent of FRAM 7317. I use the same filters for my civic.

Stay away from FRAM yes. If you research you will find that it has bad build quality. If you have a Honda, go with the S2000 filter which fits like everything 1987 and up. These ones are the great ones made by Toyo Roki/Filtech. Surpasses FRAM is all aspects.

Other notables are K&N, Valvoline, Purolator

the wix filters have a decent reputation over at bobistheoilguy. They are rebranded and sold as the napa store brand.

Originally Posted by myapple

the current OEM honda filters are also rebadged FRAM extra guards.

If you can, try to get your hands on some purolator pureone filters. They're much better than FRAM filters, but not as expensive as K/N and mobil1 filters. The part number is PL14610, which is the size equivalent of FRAM 7317. I use the same filters for my civic.

Oem Honda filter are not rebadged Fram any guard......
cut one open and you will see what you don' know, but talk about!

Originally Posted by downloader

Oem Honda filter are not rebadged Fram any guard......
cut one open and you will see what you don' know, but talk about!

I do know what I am talking about and if u did any kind of research on the subject, you would know that too.

The older honda filters with the part code 15400-PLM-A01 are not made by fram, but the new/current OEM honda oil filters (sold in north america) with the code 15400-PLM-A02 are from Honeywell (which owns FRAM). I got a bunch of free blue OEM honda filters from someone I know at a dealer. They all have either FRAM or Honeywell on them.

Here is a picture of the new OEM honda filter (A02) cut open:
http://elabfcsvrt.fdu.edu/bartsch/Pr...5400PLMA02.JPG

Here is a picture of the FRAM extraguard cut open:
http://elabfcsvrt.fdu.edu/bartsch/Pr...ramPH3593A.JPG

If you look closely, they are both the same crappy filter with a cheap plastic bypass valve and cheap cardboard endcaps. They are exactly the same thing on the inside, just with a different outer case.

Originally Posted by myapple

I do know what I am talking about and if u did any kind of research on the subject, you would know that too.

The older honda filters with the part code 15400-PLM-A01 are not made by fram, but the new/current OEM honda oil filters (sold in north america) with the code 15400-PLM-A02 are from Honeywell (which owns FRAM). I got a bunch of free blue OEM honda filters from someone I know at a dealer. They all have either FRAM or Honeywell on them.

Here is a picture of the new OEM honda filter (A02) cut open:
http://elabfcsvrt.fdu.edu/bartsch/Pr...400PLMA02A.JPG

Here is a picture of the FRAM extraguard cut open:
http://elabfcsvrt.fdu.edu/bartsch/Pr...ramPH3593A.JPG

If you look closely, they are both the same crappy filter with a cheap plastic bypass valve and cheap cardboard endcaps. They are exactly the same thing on the inside, just with a different outer case.

owned!

i have heard good things about the K&N Filter oil filter as well (although there's alot of controversy about their air filters)

I heard good things about those WIX filters as well.

I use the Ford premium filters... um on my Ford I remember they are made by Purolator as well. Someone told me once that Wix and purolator are the same filters too... not sure about that.

I've been told that if you're doing 5000km oil changes, the Frams and cheapie brands are 'good enough'

But if you plan on going for extended oil change intervals, they're a no no.

Dont forget that magnetic oilpan plug.

Originally Posted by B0000rt

I've been told that if you're doing 5000km oil changes, the Frams and cheapie brands are 'good enough'

But if you plan on going for extended oil change intervals, they're a no no.

But you see, if you had a choice on getting two filters and for around the same price wouldnt you go with the better one, knowing it was indeed better?

Im kinda anal about what goes in my car because at the end of things, I know what I do now will contribute to how long it will last.

Originally Posted by B0000rt

I've been told that if you're doing 5000km oil changes, the Frams and cheapie brands are 'good enough'

But if you plan on going for extended oil change intervals, they're a no no.

i don't see how the length of the replacement period for the filter has anything to do with how well the oil filter filters. even with 5000k, a poorly designed oil filter that doesn't filter out the particles well will still harm the engine