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Old May 23rd, 2005, 02:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question Cable Modem + Work Router + Wireless Router

Ok, I have been given a router (wired) from work so that I can access my work files, I also have a wireless router which is also connectable thru wires.

This is how I have been told to set up the 2 routers:

Computer 1:

Cable modem plugged into work router and from work router plugged into computer

Computer 2:

Work router plugged into Wireless router and into the computer (Uplink)

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Connects off of wireless router or thru WIFI

Ever since I changed it to the above setup, I can't get into my wireless router setting to set up WEP. I was able to get in before using the device IP 192.168.1.1 but now when I type in 192.168.1.1 it gives me a cannot find page error...help..
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Old May 23rd, 2005, 02:30 PM   #2 (permalink)
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What IP addresses have you assigned to your routers?
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Old May 23rd, 2005, 02:50 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Uhm...I dunno..if I click on my modem now, it says:

IP Address: 192.168.118.101
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: 192.168.118.1
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Old May 23rd, 2005, 03:23 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I am assuming a couple of things. Please confirm ...

1. You were attempting to access your wireless router from Computer #1 and got the page not found error.

2. You are connecting one of the LAN ports from the work router to your wireless router's WAN port.

3. Computer #2 has an IP address in the range of 192.168.1.x. So is your notebook.

4. You CAN access the wireless router from Computer #2 or the notebook via 192.168.1.1.

Please confirm ... Yes or no is good enough.
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Old May 23rd, 2005, 03:48 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I'll type my answers beside each question....

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I am assuming a couple of things. Please confirm ...

1. You were attempting to access your wireless router from Computer #1 and got the page not found error. YES

2. You are connecting one of the LAN ports from the work router to your wireless router's WAN port. YES (I believe)

3. Computer #2 has an IP address in the range of 192.168.1.x. So is your notebook. YES (I believe)

4. You CAN access the wireless router from Computer #2 or the notebook via 192.168.1.1. YES (I believe)

Please confirm ... Yes or no is good enough.
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Ok ... Currently, you are actually operating 2 LANs - One is served by the work router (192.168.118.x) and the other is served by the wireless router (192.168.1.x). Because the wireless router is connecting to the work router via the WAN port. The wireless router, by default, blocks off all the communication initiated from the work router.

You need to simplify your setup a little ... Here's my suggestion :

1. No change to work router & computer #1.

2. Unplug the cable from the WAN port (to the wireless router) to one of the LAN ports.

3. Turn your wireless router into AP (access point) mode (by disabling the DHCP server). You will need to do that on Computer #2 or notebook. Of course, don't forget to activate WEP or WPA to protect your wireless connection.

4. Renew the IP addresses for Computer #2 and your notebook.

5. Done.

Your LAN will have IPs ranged 192.168.118.x served by the work router. Also, all the computers will be able to 'see' each other (which I don't think it is possible right now).

It's likely that you will lose the control of your wireless router as soon as your turn it into an AP. So make all the necessary wireless security configuration before you do so.
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before I attempt anything, what do you mean by:

It's likely that you will lose the control of your wireless router as soon as your turn it into an AP. So make all the necessary wireless security configuration before you do so.

I have this wireless router:



and on the back for the connection, I have the internet cable coming from the work router to wireless router going into # 1 (this # 1 has a button for normal or uplink...currently uplink is selected) and I have a wire going from # 2 to computer and the laptop is using the wireless..

click HERE to view the back of the router..

which one's am I suppose to plug where?

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Ok ... Currently, you are actually operating 2 LANs - One is served by the work router (192.168.118.x) and the other is served by the wireless router (192.168.1.x). Because the wireless router is connecting to the work router via the WAN port. The wireless router, by default, blocks off all the communication initiated from the work router.

You need to simplify your setup a little ... Here's my suggestion :

1. No change to work router & computer #1.

2. Unplug the cable from the WAN port (to the wireless router) to one of the LAN ports.

3. Turn your wireless router into AP (access point) mode (by disabling the DHCP server). You will need to do that on Computer #2 or notebook. Of course, don't forget to activate WEP or WPA to protect your wireless connection.

4. Renew the IP addresses for Computer #2 and your notebook.

5. Done.

Your LAN will have IPs ranged 192.168.118.x served by the work router. Also, all the computers will be able to 'see' each other (which I don't think it is possible right now).

It's likely that you will lose the control of your wireless router as soon as your turn it into an AP. So make all the necessary wireless security configuration before you do so.

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Your connection is actually ok (the answer for question #2 should've been "no"). We need to connect to the wireless router first in order to config it. Now, please tell me the IP address of your 3 systems, ie. 192.168.x.x ...

Can you access 192.168.1.1 from Computer #2 or your notebook ? From what I can see, you should be able to.

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Computer 1: 192.168.118.100
Computer 2: 192.168.118.104
Laptop: 192.168.118.101
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Your network setup looks alright. The work router is serving local IPs and wireless router is acting as an AP.

And the wireless router/AP is out of reach now coz it is not in the 192.168.118.x range (it has a fixed default 192.168.1.1). In order to regain the control of your wireless router, you will need to assign a *fixed* IP manually in the range of 192.168.1.x to computer #2 or your notebook.

You may need to do that anyways if you have not activated any protection to your wireless router/AP. Once you setup everything, you can remove the fixed/static IP so it will obtain an local IP from the work router automatically once again.
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I'm sorry if this is a dumb question but how do I assign a fixed IP?

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Your network setup looks alright. The work router is serving local IPs and wireless router is acting as an AP.

And the wireless router/AP is out of reach now coz it is not in the 192.168.118.x range (it has a fixed default 192.168.1.1). In order to regain the control of your wireless router, you will need to assign a *fixed* IP manually in the range of 192.168.1.x to computer #2 or your notebook.

You may need to do that anyways if you have not activated any protection to your wireless router/AP.
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I'm sorry if this is a dumb question but how do I assign a fixed IP?
You can assign it via Control Panel > Network Connections > Properties > TCP/IP > Properties
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Old May 23rd, 2005, 08:00 PM   #13 (permalink)
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so is it in the general tab, use the following ip address...

and then put in

IP Address: 192.168.1.1
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: (what do I put here?)

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You can assign it via Control Panel > Network Connections > Properties > TCP/IP > Properties
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Old May 23rd, 2005, 08:04 PM   #14 (permalink)
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No No .... 192.168.1.1 is your wireless router ... Try 192.168.1.2 for IP and try 192.168.1.1 as the default gateway.
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