**Bad Trader - FlintBlade**

The reason I’m starting this thread is to warn all other users about the attitude and actions of FlintBlade and to avoid any trades with him like the plague.

I normally wouldn’t make these things public, but I am left with little choice.

1. FlintBlade posted a thread last month intending to bash me, that completely backfired when he was in the wrong. He started making this public.

2. FlintBlade has PM’d members of this board asking them to delete their comments about him and stating that this has been resoved – it has not.

3. Flint has PM’d the mods on this board stating the situation has resolved and they locked the original thread, but 6 weeks later, it has not been resolved simply because of FlintBlade’s desire to make it difficult.

This incident has been far and away the worst experience I have had on these forums, and its all due to a childish attitude and borderline fraudulent activity by FlintBlade.

Here’s a brief synopsis of the story.
-Flint advertises a 9600pro video card on RFD forums for sale

-We arrange to meet, I pick up the card pay $45 and go home to test it out. September 22nd

-The card doesn’t work, I try for 8 hours to get it to work, I PM the next day him saying the card doesn’t work, can I get a refund. I even say I will knock off $5 for his troubles and only has to give me $40 back

-FlintBlade says that he is disappointed, but does not mention returning my money

-5 days pass, and I keep asking him if we can meet up and return this card, he avoids me, doesn’t not respond to PM’s and I send him a strongly worded PM asking him if he is going to refund my money.

-He all of a sudden says that the card was sold ‘as is” (which it wasn’t) and that he doesn’t have to give me my money back.

-He then starts a thread on RFD saying that I am the one in the wrong to attempt to destroy my reputation. The thread backfires once the facts come out. I post all the PM’s and everyone agrees that this guy is a bad trader and to refund the money, only he never does. Thread can be found here

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/s...hlight=boo4842

-The mod’s lock the thread because FlintBlade says that the issue has been resolved. The issue is not resolved then, but I ship the card to him the next day and pay for it out of my own pocket. I say it would be nice since I’m returning the card if he would send back the money.

-He says on Oct 5th – 5 weeks ago

ya i believe you. I know you wouldnt do that... not sure who did it but meh. Anywho, once i send you your cash, (tomorrow when i get my cheque). I'll leave you heat.

-I PM to confirm if he has received the card, he says he has on Oct 15th I say if he feels like it he can refund me my money, and leave my email for EMT or Paypal

-He responds (note I already spent $6.50 shipping the card back to him)

I'll use CC paypal. Don't feel like paying the $2 emt charge =D

-I wait a few days, and still nothing – no money, no explanation, so ask what’s up, maybe he sent to the wrong email – give him the benefit of the doubt

He responds

have to verify my credit card, just made a paypal account with no cash in it

-I can’t believe this, after going through all this trouble, and hurting his rep, and screwing me over, he is going to have me wait to confirm paypal to save $1.50. Anyways, I tell him I’ll wait and I wait, almost 2 weeks! Still nothing! I’m well aware of this guys dishonesty and stall tactics, so I ask again, if his credit card thing is done – this is now OCTOBER 30th! I sent him this message

any word on the paypal thing

I'm out $45 on the card that I don't have

and payed another $6 to ship it to you

and its now been a month, I think its fair you return some money

He responds

Ya, just verifying it by check right now, should be able to send the cash tomorrow or tuesday.

-I tell him that if the $1.50 for EMT is that big a deal, I will pay for it. Just take it off the money he is going to give me.

This is now NOVEMBER 2nd he writes back

no i just wanted to use paypal heh. It's taking longer to activate the account then it should have. But ill just emt the cash when i get off work tonight.

-I do not get the money that night, or the next night, or the next. I write back, asking if there is a problem, he reads the message, but does not reply.

I finally sent this message today (November 5).

Hey Man,

This is getting a bit nuts. Its been 6 weeks since the trade and 3 weeks since I shipped the card to you at my expense.

I've asked you six (6) times now for the money, and its still not here.

You said thursday you would do it after work, and its Sunday now.

Please take 5 mins and just send the money today.

If you don't I'll have to assume you are not going to pay, even though you have the card and my money, and will have no choice but to leave neg heat, and start another thread on the matter, since this has still not been resolved.

I don't think the rest of the RFD community would be very sympathetic to see that you've had teh card returned over 3 weeks ago and you still haven't returned the money.

Do the right thing man.
My email is ______________ for paypal or EMT (preferred)

Let me know when it is sent
Thanks

He sent me this response back

you did tell me i didnt have to pay. Also, i can take as long as I want, meaning it could take 4years. But I did tell you I would refund you the cash. So, I was going to do it via paypal, just because I needed to make a paypal account and it would save me $1.50. So ill send it tonight via paypal. If I can't send it by paypal, I'll send it via emt.

Once again with your threats. You keep changing your story. Stick to your word, I know I am. As long as I pay you, I'm keeping my word. You said I didn't have to refund you the cash, now your threatening to leave negative heat.

You will get the cash tonight. Ya, it's been a while, (6 or so weeks) But you will get the cash, and the fact that you said I dont have to pay you, and to take as long as I want if I decide to pay you. It means theres no deadline, so I dont have to go out of my way to refund you the cash.

Like I said, you will get it tonight either paypal or EMT. It's taken a while to verify my paypal account, when they make the deposit in your bank your supposed to go on your paypal account and type in the charges. I did that, but it said the payments they made did not exist, so i had to verify it via credit card.

Negative heat is the least this guy deserves, and the reason I’m writing this thread is to warn all those who are thinking of doing business with this guy, this is what you might be in for. I realize that its only $45, but it has been 6 weeks now and it’s the principle of the thing.

This guy thinks that it is reasonable that he takes 4 years to give someone their money back, when he has, both the card and my money. I offered to accept all charges for EMT, but he insists on messing me around.

I would not normally make this thing public, but as you can see, I have tried every single thing under the sun to get this guy to act like an adult to no avail. I’ve given him the benefit of the doubt so many times, and I am not waiting around for 4 years for some guy to do the right thing. I’m writing this on Sunday night, and hopefully the money has come, but I feel it’s the right thing to warn people whether I get the money back or not.

Notice how he changed the other thread title to Resolved – even though a month later, he is still fighting it. This kind of trader gives a bad name to the forum, and hurts my experience with all the other good traders I’ve dealt with from this board.

Well... that's a damn shame. I had an inkling my advice fell on deaf ears and it seems I was right.

Update: Wednesday morning. Despite saying quite clearly he would pay Sunday night, Its 3 days later and still nothing. This is the 6th time he has specified a day he would pay and has not. This would be fine except all the other stuff he put me through in the other thread.

-He sold a dodgy product
-He refused to give a straight answer when I asked if I could get a refund
-He changed his story and lied saying it was sold ‘as is’ and lied saying I took 48 hours to contact him – it was 24.
-He again wouldn’t agree to give a refund
-He posts a thread on the board trying to bash me
-It backfires, the community proves him wrong he says its resolved then says that he will give a refund, after 10PM’s.
-He says he will give a refund, I send the card back.
-He gets the card, I get no money.
-15 PM’s and 6 promises later, 4 weeks pass and there is still no money. I’ve had enough this guy has basically stolen my money, and if you still want to deal with this 'trader' – go ahed, you have been warned. I’ve spent 30PM’s and out over $50, and am still getting the run around. I may persue this further locally just out of principle.

yeah didnt like his attitude either.. he gets angry when he gets lowballed but he himself lowballs.. i knew something was wrong with him... hope u resolve this issue. pm the mods they might be able to help u.. to be able to get a name or something.. then canada411 it hopefully it'll give u something to work with if u know wat i mean.

i never dealt with im just coz his attitude during the pm process its a good thing i didnt

gl again...

and damn! he's got the item why cant he just refund.. and u were nice enough to know off 5 bucks and 1.50 just for him to EMT ASAP.. that pisses me off man.. i hate ppl like that.. and the nerve to say he can take all the time he wants.. f4g bad bad trader... slap on the wrist

do u have a name or address at least? phone number?

I do have an address and a name, since I sent him the card back - and paid all shipping costs over a month ago.

He even confirmed he recieved the card - so there is no issue there.

You would think after getting all the negative attention from the last thread he would want to resolve this ASAP - like a month ago.

I would normally just forget about this for $45 - which I guess he was hoping for, but it just irritates me that this guy blatently refuses to do the right thing and has no apologies or thinks he's done nothing wrong. Its tough to let a guy like that walk away with your money, but its more his attitude through the whole thing which is why I'm posting this, as a warning.

Originally Posted by boo4842

He sent me this response back

Wow. My jaw literally dropped open after I read that. It's like he's running an auto-bull***** generator and sent you a pm with its output. Good luck with the situation - Hopefully you do get your money back.

That's unbelievable. I have actually met flintblade, and for the record, our trade went fine, because it was my product and his cash. Having said that, this kind of behaviour is totally unacceptable. I definitely won't deal with anyone who acts like that.

lol

I've got tonnes of examaple. I personally like this one when I asked him why I can't get a straight answer out of him. I asked (6 weeks ago) before I had sent the card back.

1. Can i get a refund on this card
2. When can we meet tomorrow to make the exchange.

and I added - please give me a straight answer, since every time I ask you something, I get a paragraph and no answer.

he responded

m at work tomorrow regardless. So its not like im going to kill myself so i dont have to work. Or call in sick.. or stay at home for the fun of it i lose more money by missing work for that. But I work maintenance so you might have to ask some1 to call me. It's either that or we do it on friday on my day off. I no longer work seasonal so i wont be able to stand in that department.

Just cuz its fun to write out a paragraph with a hidden answer rather then just saying yes.

The only thing I ask in return is positive heatware, maybe even an apology. I dont care about the sold as is, even though it was. I still honor a return period of atleast a month. But just apology stating that you misread what I typed to you. You said you wanted your money back, rather then saying yes, i said lets arrange a meeting. I thought that was good enough since you said "sure no rush". That's all

He finds it fun to write out a paragraph with a hidden anwer instead of just saying yes. This guy just likes to p!ss people off, I think he has some issues to be honest.

He then asks after all this to leave him positive heatware!! And then says that I won't get my money back unless I apoligize to him

I think he has a dual core bull***** machine, overclocked to spew out extra garbage, and a seperate SPU - shoveling processing unit to handle the complex piles.

***I met him too, and thought everything was fine too, until there was a simple problem and then the nightmare began. I'd even let it go if it was just all the hassle to get him to agree with the refund and then he gave the money back, but I'm still out of pocket 6 weeks later.

Just received this PM today

talk about not being able to wait till payday on friday.. whatever. Your choice, you told me i could take as long as I want. So i chose to buy some stuff before I pay ya. Then you change your story

First time he's mentioned waiting till he gets paid, even though he said he would pay last Sunday.

List of excuses employed thus far by FlintBlade.
For not given a refund in the first place.
-the card was working when I gave it to you
-the card may have had some cooling issues, but I think it was working when I gave it to you
-all of a sudden the card was sold ‘as is’ – no refund (no where in the post or in PM does it say ‘as is’)
-I took 48 hours to say there was a problem (It took 24) and EVERY trader knows that after 24 hours there is no refunds…. Where is he getting this rule?
-His computer was down, he couldn’t get back to me (he still posted threads though)
-flint lost all PM’s or deleted them so there is no way to back up any of his stories
-The original for sale thread was edited, but before he changed it it said as is
-he knew the card was not working anyways and that’s why he sold it for so cheap, I took a risk buying it for such a low price ($45 for a 9600 seems like working value to me)
-The board software was updated so that’s why he didn’t see my PM’s
-He has been busy with work so couldn’t respond to me. (He took the time to read them, and make other posts about buying and selling other things though)
-Despite not mentioning anything about a refund and fighting it for 10 days, he says that he always agreed to give one and that I’m illiterate for not seeing that.
-He should sue me for ‘verbal assault’ for asking for a refund depite the fact I’ve never talked to him and he ‘lost’ all the PM’s I sent to him.

Reasons after agreeing to a refund, why 2-6 weeks later he still hasn’t given it
-He wants to pay by paypal
-He wants to save $1.50 for EMT, so can’t pay now
-He wants to pay by credit card paypal and has to confirm his card
-2 weeks later there is problems confiming his CC and will confirm with chq (bank)
-There is a problem with the bank confirmations and will confirm with CC paypal again, even though I offer to pay the 1.50 EMT fee
-He just wants to pay via paypal for the fun of it, its not just the $1.50
-I did not specify how long he had to pay him so if he pays in 4 years he is keeping his word. There should be no rush to pay me.
-He has no money now in his bank (first time mentioning it) so can’t send EMT. He’s been buying too many computer parts and games and spending all his money.
-He has to ask his parents for the money.
-Just ignores my PM’s

Just added
-Wait till he gets paid on Friday

any bets on whether I will see anything on Friday?

I'm done with this... its taking up too much time, no more posts. Just wanted to let others know if they were thinking of dealing with him.

According to his HEAT, this was not the first negative transaction, that shoulda been a heads up for you, no ?

Good Luck!

EDIT: My bad, looks like both are related

I was interested in one of his items for sale but hesitated because of the other thread. Now I am happy that I didnt PM him about it. Good luck AGAIN!

What I find funny is the fact that he still decides to act like a child through PMs, even though boo has made it clear that he's willing to disclose all messages that are sent. A bad trader? Perhaps. A not-so-bright one? Definitely.

Originally Posted by boo4842

any bets on whether I will see anything on Friday?

I dont know. How much memory does his bull***** generator have?

Originally Posted by DualSoul

What I find funny is the fact that he still decides to act like a child through PMs, even though boo has made it clear that he's willing to disclose all messages that are sent. A bad trader? Perhaps. A not-so-bright one? Definitely.

I'm making the PM's public because of the bare face lies that seems to come out of this guy, and I am covering myself here. Also I've just been blown away by the unbelievable BS that this guy thinks is normal.

This is the latest one

I should have sent the money from day one. Regardless of the fact that you said I didn't have to, and that I could take all the time I need. IT's the principle of the matter. I should have refunded the cash right away. Otherwise I'll just keep putting it off. I can see waiting a week, but if payment has not been sent by 4-6weeks, it never will. This needs to be sorted out so we can all get a good night sleep. That and the fact that I want this to be resolved.

So I will send out the $40CAD today. All I ask from you in return. Give me a positive heatware, and send a message to the heatware mods to try and get that negative removed. Perhaps remove the thread, although, it can stay. Just post in there letting ppl know its now resolved.

Are these terms ok with you? Money will be sent my EMT.

he is now dictating terms in order to refund my money, I have to:

-leave him positive heatware (but as if there is a reason not to)
-send a message to heatware mods to remove negative heat (because it wasn't justified?)
-delete this thread in the forums
-or post here that its resolved (say its resolved before I get the money of course)

And if I do all that he will send me $40 of the $45 I gave him. (I did say I'd take $5 off for the hassle of taking a return to speed up the process - 6 WEEKS AGO!)

Notice now how he has the money in his account to EMT if I agree to his terms, when 2 hours ago he had to wait till friday.

what do you think? I'm sure this guy deserves positve heatware for this deal.

Originally Posted by jEnkinsX

u know where he lives no?
go for it
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I'm simply amazed this is still going on. I'm also amazed at how patient boo is. If it was me and I had his address........well, I think we'll leave it at that

Hope this ends soon for ya boo.