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Old May 23rd, 2005, 06:45 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm not up on the CPU wars so maybe u can help me...

Why do I see Intel p4 530 3.0Ghz chips selling for less than AMD Athlon64 3500 2.2ghz.

It would appear to me that the Intel chip is faster. Am I wrong?

I'm gonna buy a new mobo, chip and some ram so I wanna know whats the best (and cheapest) option. I play some 3rd person shooters but mostly I just surf the web and play movies.


Can anyone recommend a good mobo and chip?
I have AMD XP2600+ on A7V600 mobo with 1gb ram.
Is there a tremendous difference with DDR Ram?
Is it worth my while getting it? Oh yea, can I bring my PC3200 ram to the next mobo? Or should I get something else?
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Old May 23rd, 2005, 06:53 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I haven't had amd64, but from what i can tell my 2.8 Ghz intel system runs very nice. I use ddr2 tho..
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Old May 23rd, 2005, 07:09 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I'm not up on the CPU wars so maybe u can help me...

Why do I see Intel p4 530 3.0Ghz chips selling for less than AMD Athlon64 3500 2.2ghz.

It would appear to me that the Intel chip is faster. Am I wrong?

I'm gonna buy a new mobo, chip and some ram so I wanna know whats the best (and cheapest) option. I play some 3rd person shooters but mostly I just surf the web and play movies.


Can anyone recommend a good mobo and chip?
I have AMD XP2600+ on A7V600 mobo with 1gb ram.
Is there a tremendous difference with DDR Ram?
Is it worth my while getting it? Oh yea, can I bring my PC3200 ram to the next mobo? Or should I get something else?
Because clock for clock.. the athlon is faster.. which means that at 2.2 ghz, it's faster than the intel at 3 ghz.

New mobo, chip and ram.. then cheapes is amd64

DDR? Um... if you have ddr3200 already.. then it'll work fine for amd64.. for new intels (socket 775), you'll probably want to get ddr2 though there are some boards that work with ddr1.
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Old May 23rd, 2005, 07:23 PM   #4 (permalink)
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The A64's Really run nice! Smoking, more to the fact, IMHO. Even some cool features like Cool & Quiet - changing processor speed and power savings.

If it were me, I'd look at a nice nF3 or nF4 motherboard, nice Skt 939, and a processor to match. That way your ram is reused in this new iteration of your PC.
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kk, on the topic of A64....
Is it common for an A64 3000+ to run at 700Mhz?
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Is it common for an A64 3000+ to run at 700Mhz?
If you have cool 'n queit enabled, yes.
It adjusts clock speed as needed. When the load is low, it drops the clock rate to save power and keep the CPU cool. When the CPU load goes up, so does the clock speed.
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The A64's Really run nice! Smoking, more to the fact, IMHO. Even some cool features like Cool & Quiet - changing processor speed and power savings.

If it were me, I'd look at a nice nF3 or nF4 motherboard, nice Skt 939, and a processor to match. That way your ram is reused in this new iteration of your PC.

Does the DFI LANPARTY UT NF4 ULTRA-D MOTHERBOARD support my PC3200 ram? I see it at NCIX for $165.85

Is there a board with AGP and PCI-Express?
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Does the DFI LANPARTY UT NF4 ULTRA-D MOTHERBOARD support my PC3200 ram? I see it at NCIX for $165.85

Is there a board with AGP and PCI-Express?
1. it should.
2. not that i know of.
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Old May 23rd, 2005, 08:39 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Does the DFI LANPARTY UT NF4 ULTRA-D MOTHERBOARD support my PC3200 ram?
Yes, PC3200 is equivalent to DDR400 memory.


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Is there a board with AGP and PCI-Express?
http://forums.anandtech.com/messagev...readid=1541691
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Yes, PC3200 is equivalent to DDR400 memory.




http://forums.anandtech.com/messagev...readid=1541691
I found this at Canada Computers.

I wonder if it will support my Sapphire 9550?
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I found this at Canada Computers.

I wonder if it will support my Sapphire 9550?
nope, your 9550 is an AGP videocard and that motherboard is PCI-E.

there is talk about an AGP/PCI-E bridge thing but i dont think there is one available for purchase yet.
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nope, your 9550 is an AGP videocard and that motherboard is PCI-E.

That motherboard does support a limited number of AGP cards. See the bottom of this page for details.
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Old May 23rd, 2005, 11:57 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Yes. Works find with my 2x512MB PC3200 Corsair Value Select and OCZ Gold VX. The OCZ had to be RMA'd though cuz I got errors in memtest and now I am testing the replacement.
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