2 weeks until Hero

[bigredlemon]

http://www.apple.com/trailers/miramax/hero/large.html

[bigredlemon]

I personally cant wait until this movie comes out :D

[LeeBear]

Most people (including myself) have already seen it and own it. This movie was out overseas a few years ago and is just being released over here. Still a pretty good movie compared to the typical Hollywood cr*p they keep releasing over here.

-LeeBear

[jerryhussain]

I personally cant wait until this movie comes out :D
I thought it was out on DVD already ? :confused: I havent watched it but the feedback was it is a decent movie nothing great.

[firehawk12]

^^
Yup.

Thank god for Chinatown.

[Tsukagi]

my buddy that watched/ownes the dvd says it's a boring movie.
my bro's friend also says it's borning.

..dont' get tricked out by all the glamour of big budget.
watch the import dvd(if u can) before u goto theater to watch it on big screen..(dubbed maybe?..or subbed).

[pureangst]

Rather old film.

Don't get your hopes up,
there's a lot more interesting asian films than this one.
Mediocre at best, excessive special effects.

If you're into action, try "Versus", "Azumi", "Zatoichi".

[bLiTzEd o_O]

i personally thought it wuz NUTS! The fight scenes are krazi like Crouching Tiger. Storywise might be lacking to some people but I thought it was awesome overall.

[BoxsterS]

my buddy that watched/ownes the dvd says it's a boring movie.
my bro's friend also says it's borning.

..dont' get tricked out by all the glamour of big budget.
watch the import dvd(if u can) before u goto theater to watch it on big screen..(dubbed maybe?..or subbed).

It is indeed a very boring movie and at times very silly. There are a few good fight scenes, but they're so polluted by wire work that it was difficult to keep a straight face at times. If they do nothing to juice this movie up there is no question this movie will bomb in North America.

[joshmxpx]

i personally thought it wuz NUTS! The fight scenes are krazi like Crouching Tiger. Storywise might be lacking to some people but I thought it was awesome overall.

crouching tiger hidden dragon was the first thing that came to mind when i saw the trailer, i'm just gonna wait and see it myself before i listen to you guys

[tkl]

crouching tiger hidden dragon was the first thing that came to mind when i saw the trailer, i'm just gonna wait and see it myself before i listen to you guys


I thought it was a great story with really great camera work and fight scenes. You may appreciate the story more if you like the folk-lore stories relating to the Qing dynasty. It is probably my favouriite Chinese martial arts movie. I liked it waaaayy better than Crouching Tiger.

[doomhammer]

Mm.. yah this movie is from 2002.. its being released here now.

FYI though you guys can get it off most BT sites ;)

[emptypocket]

i personally thought it wuz NUTS! The fight scenes are krazi like Crouching Tiger. Storywise might be lacking to some people but I thought it was awesome overall.

I concur with your opinion. I watched it awhile ago and I thought it was pretty good. The story was lacking times but overall the fight scenes more than made up for it. Tony Leung rules, and Zhang Ziyi is awesome as always.

[Dymis]

Hero was well done. Especially since it doesn't use 'shaking' effects where all action is a blur.

I don't see how Zatoichi or Versus can even compare to this. Zatoichi had very little action, and when it did, it doesn't last very long. And Versus just had a lot of gunplay, with 2-3 sword battles. Whereas Hero has a ton of action, although the later parts are stretched out, I found that beginning fights to be excellent.

[part-trader]

My parents use to own a south east asian video store and coming from someone who has watched these traditional asian films from the past 20 years these type of movies havent changed very much but the fact that the rest of the world is finally seeing this genre for the first time. Yes the technology has changed but the stories are the same and based very much on legends.

Most asian actors have been in many more films than hollywood actors that many of us idolize. I hope more these types of films will be released on this side of the ocean for everyone to experience.

I applaud these types of movies for what they are and for the people who want to be critics I suggest keeping your day jobs and to also keep in mind Jackie Chan is far from being the most talented asian actor out there.

[Philip_69]

yeah, this movie is pretty good. On a scale of 10, I'd rate this 8.5 and Crouching Tiger 7.5. I love how each part of the story has difference color, it would be beautiful to see on the theater screen. Close-up shots of Jet Li's face was terrible though . :D . Thank you Pacific Mall.

Cheers

[bigredlemon]

Yup this movie came out in 2002, but most of us don't have a killer home theater to enjoy it in. I'd feel like i'm missing out if i'm just watching it on a regular old TV, especially given the great audio in this movie (based upon what little i've seen in the trailer :o ).

Also, how often will you get to watch an Asian movie in your fav movie theather right here in Toronto? This comes along maybe only once every couple years? And in any case, I think there's a lot of us tired of the typical hollywood drivel, and would welcome something new. If we don't support the movies when they are released, we might never get another chance for a long time.

[Brandon]

I only have a crappy VCD version of it. It looked so much nicer in the theatre previews.

:|

[tinlunlau]

i just grabbed a bootleg copy of the extended edition of Hero just to see what's added on in the extra 10 minutes.

sure....i'd feel bad for buying a pirate copy but come to think of it, i've already bought 3 legit copies of "Hero" (the infamous camcordered version, the legit Edko VCD and then legit 2 disc R3HK edition). plus, there's not alot of stores selling the extended version. the only legit copy i found was over $30 and i didn't want it for that much. a 4th purchase is going to be a headache for me

[siriuskao]

i personally thought it wuz NUTS! The fight scenes are krazi like Crouching Tiger. Storywise might be lacking to some people but I thought it was awesome overall.

fight scene like crouching tiger = crap, but hero is better than c.tiger. Since they have Jet Li and Donnie Yen.

IMO, iron monkey has better fighting scene.

seriously how many people here will pay $10-$13 to watch it again in theatres.

like someone said, Zatoichi is better(more entertaining).

[FuNPoLiCe001]

the fights scenes were okay...didnt find them too impressive

i actually kinda liked the story

[balou911]

What does 'Quentin Tarantino Presents' actually mean?
Is he just lending his name to the film?
He has nothing to do with the story/screenplay/direction or production.
Just look at the credits from the trailer.

So what the hell did he do?

[Amourek]

I think he's just distributing it in NA. I liked Hero. A little artsy fartsy, but pretty good still. :)

[Talamasca]

Honestly, it's the most beautiful-looking movie I've ever seen. Such pretty pictures.

It's not an action movie, despite what the trailer what have you think. It's a drama about the definition of what a hero is, not what he does.

[shaolinmonk]

Honestly, it's the most beautiful-looking movie I've ever seen. Such pretty pictures.

It's not an action movie, despite what the trailer what have you think. It's a drama about the definition of what a hero is, not what he does.

agreed i thought it was very intelligent moving much better then Crouching tiger. the use of color is very cool.. but if you're not the artsy farsty type and just want to see some violence stick to kill bill (which is more of the opposite side of the spectrum and very good too)

[Yesdear]

I saw it a few months ago and am definitely looking forward to seeing it on the big screen.

[killuminati]

is this movie in english or is it all subtitles?

[BoxsterS]

What does 'Quentin Tarantino Presents' actually mean?
Is he just lending his name to the film?
He has nothing to do with the story/screenplay/direction or production.
Just look at the credits from the trailer.

So what the hell did he do?

He's the person that is releasing this movie in NA. Without him you wouldn't have seen a theatrical release of this movie. So you should thank him for having the courage to spend his own money.

[killuminati]

What does 'Quentin Tarantino Presents' actually mean?
Is he just lending his name to the film?
He has nothing to do with the story/screenplay/direction or production.
Just look at the credits from the trailer.

So what the hell did he do?


so heres the deal taken from imdb.com

"Miramax, the distributor, apparently cut out 20 minutes from the movie because they found that part to be "too Asian and confusing" for western audiences. Then-Miramax honcho Harvey Weinstein made a deal with Quentin Tarantino that he'd release the film uncut if Tarantino would allow a "Quentin Tarantino Presents" tag at the beginning of the film. Tarantino agreed."

[CSR]

wacked.... ya asian movies are mostly the same lol

[Dragonrana]

I watched "Hero" last year and to be perfectly honest I couldn't sit through the entire movie. Man.. it was slow and boring. Storyline was a bit better that Crouching Tiger. A few good fight scenes at the beginning and the million arrow shooting at the building where Cheung Man Yuk & Jet Li are trying to deflect the arrows.
Action wise...I've seen better.

Especially, HK movies made in the early to mid 90's...like Swordsmen 1 & 2 or House of Flying Daggers( I believe this was made in the 90's), Bride with the White Hair 1 & 2 or some of Jet Li's infamous movies like "Once upon a Time in China series" or "My Father the Hero", "Tai Chi Master"...awesome classics!!! :cheesygri :cheesygri

[tinlunlau]

House of Flying Daggers( I believe this was made in the 90's)

uhm....that just came out this summer....
and it's Zhang Yimou's newest movie....which came out AFTER HERO

[Nightgod]

http://www.apple.com/trailers/miramax/hero/large.html


yeah this movie looks good, when does it come out again

[YLSF]

I got a message today at work that someone called me from Paramount telling me I won a pair of passes to see Hero on August 26th (or, atleast I have to pick up the tickets before noon on August 26th). Luckily I will be in Toronto next Wednesday so I don't have to make a special trip to get the tickets at least!!

[freakygirl]

the trailer makes the movie better than it actually is.

it's a good plot, but story moves rather slowly. beautiful scenery though!

[voodoo401]

I could not sit through CTHD which everyone raved about

think I ll pass

[Merlocke]

It was a good movie.
Excellent Cinematography. Yes - similar to Crouching Tiger (Which I like more than this movie storywise - but not by much).

If you're a martial artist - you will appreciate the moves that they pull of.. wires or not.

[trader08]

I have to say that this movie will probably bomb in North America. There's simply not enough people that has the will to attend an asian film, of those that attend, probably half will like it, and only half that do like it will probably encourage others to see it.

The bad:
This movie is slow, oh soo slow. (I think this will turn alot of people off)
Too much fight scenes, do we have to replay every fight scene!


The good:
The movie is visually stunning, Oh the pretty pretty colours. :razz:
Very Well choreographed.
And most importantly a great premise.

I was in aw of the visuals and yet annoyed at how slow the movie moved the whole time. But the underlying story is what I felt was a good message well worth telling, well enough for me to change my opinion from not recommend to recommend at the end of the movie.

I'm definitely going to see this on big screen.

[actyper]

It will definately bomb in the theatres. Almost everyone who has interest in this movie has already seen it.

[atl5]

Hmm.. i guess I'll throw in my opinion too since there's already 3 pages of it. I think I like this movie because I actually just came back from China and was in the city where the Qin dynasty was located. I learnt a lot about the history and that's why the movie actually made sense to me. If I had watched this maybe 4 months ago, I would step out of the theatre with some confusion of what the movie was talking about (Qin being the first King of China, uniting like 7 countries into what we now know as China). I found the movie very interesting because it was like a visual of the history I learned from oversea. But for sure I know its not gonna do that well because it was out so long ago, so anyone that is a Jet Li fan or Crouching Tiger fan has already heard of this title and has probably bought a copy of the dvd.

[eelfliw]

There's so much hype around this movie. So much that I have a downloaded copy, a legit VCD and legit DVDs. Still, I'll go to see it in theatres. Want to see the pictures on big screen.

The story is not a bad adaptation (based on true historical story that was also made into movie by Chen Kai Ge and starring Gong Li). But screen writing is terrible. With too much emphasis on creating the perfect movie set instead of telling a story. The end result is a movie that is created with a series of beautiful pictures but spends hours telling a story that could have been told in 1/2 the time. ZYM needs to go back to screen writing school. A waste of a star-studded cast.

Why is that? My theory is that the story has been told SO MANY TIMES in China that even pre-school kids know it (and it's way better than CTHD's story line). So there's no point telling the story as just a story. But to shift focus to creating a beautifully illustrated story. Therefore, this movie is must see on theatres' big screen.

I also wondered about Quentin Taratino's connection to this movie. Everyone knows he had a part into making what Miramax is today. Miramax bought the rights to Hero in 2002 but never released it in North America. Taratino went to BJ to make Kill Bill. He comes back and next thing you know, he presents Hero.... Strange.

Anyone have news on "House of Daggers (http://www.monkeypeaches.com/paypal/017M.jpg) " North American release date (if ever)?? This is another much publicized movie....

[tinlunlau]

There's so much hype around this movie. So much that I have a downloaded copy, a legit VCD and legit DVDs. Still, I'll go to see it in theatres. Want to see the pictures on big screen.

The story is not a bad adaptation (based on true historical story that was also made into movie by Chen Kai Ge and starring Gong Li). But screen writing is terrible. With too much emphasis on creating the perfect movie set instead of telling a story. The end result is a movie that is created with a series of beautiful pictures but spends hours telling a story that could have been told in 1/2 the time. ZYM needs to go back to screen writing school. A waste of a star-studded cast.

Why is that? My theory is that the story has been told SO MANY TIMES in China that even pre-school kids know it (and it's way better than CTHD's story line). So there's no point telling the story as just a story. But to shift focus to creating a beautifully illustrated story. Therefore, this movie is must see on theatres' big screen.

I also wondered about Quentin Taratino's connection to this movie. Everyone knows he had a part into making what Miramax is today. Miramax bought the rights to Hero in 2002 but never released it in North America. Taratino went to BJ to make Kill Bill. He comes back and next thing you know, he presents Hero.... Strange.

Anyone have news on "House of Daggers (http://www.monkeypeaches.com/paypal/017M.jpg) " North American release date (if ever)?? This is another much publicized movie....

"House of Flying Daggers" will be released in North American theatres in December 10, 2004. its north american premiere will be in the upcoming toronto filmfest coming next month.

[YLSF]

If you are interested in this movie, do NOT watch the trailer. I went to see it tonight at the advance preview and I am glad I did not watch the american trailer. It removes a big part of the suprise (pretty major twist that I was not expecting) if you see the american trailer first. I don't think I would have enjoyed it as much if I had seen that part!!

Definitely a movie to watch in the theaters though. I think I would have enjoyed it a lot less on my tv at home. The colours/cinematography were amazing... Visually, I just couldn't keep my eyes off the screen. I was even tired when I went to watch it and was a bit worried I might fall asleep (since I heard it was slow). I agree that the pacing was slow at time, but I enjoyed it nonetheless.

[Fantaz]

Awesome movie!! Imported the dvd. Really is Jet Li's best movie. Can't wait to watch it in theaters again.

[Talamasca]

It will definately bomb in the theatres.

Oops. It will be the #1 movie this weekend with a gross somewhere around $18M. Pretty amazing for a foreign-language film.

[shabby]

is this movie in english or is it all subtitles?

Can someone answer this who saw the movie?

[DavidY]

Can someone answer this who saw the movie?

I have the DVD....it has english subtitles.

Dave

[code187]

this movie was out acouple of years ago.

[Hanniganite]

this movie was out acouple of years ago.

Yes......in Asia

[code187]

you can download it.

[Fumi]

just watched it. Pretty good I say. I like MOON...wasnt she in Crouching Tiger?

edit: Movie is in mandarin with english subtitles. Good way to learn a new language. I learned a few new words.

[code187]

just watched it. Pretty good I say. I like MOON...wasnt she in Crouching Tiger?

edit: Movie is in mandarin with english subtitles.
why cause shes the other one having sex ? quicky lol. "You can leave now"

[akito925]

Most people (including myself) have already seen it and own it. This movie was out overseas a few years ago and is just being released over here. Still a pretty good movie compared to the typical Hollywood cr*p they keep releasing over here.

-LeeBear

yep! totally true!

I own the orginal one! no english dub junk fixing it up! no hollywood hype! this movie ain't no hollywood movie! it is a hong kong movie done right on a low budget! lol

[Blunt]

yep! totally true!

I own the orginal one! no english dub junk fixing it up! no hollywood hype! this movie ain't no hollywood movie! it is a hong kong movie done right on a low budget! lol

Wasn't this the most expensive movie made in China?
Something like 80 million?

[trader08]

HERO sucked. Crouching Tiger Hidden "MOST BORING MOVIE EVER", also sucked.



i only now say FuLLtiMe kiLLeR

AWESOME MOVIE - my appreciation for east asia grew from 2 on a scale of 10 to 8 !

Must visit Japan, China, and Malaysia sometime. The chicks are hot too :)

Fulltime Killer would have been good if not for that stupid magic trick Andy Lau pulled on Simon (the detective) when he was looked in the cell. What the hell was that about!? I never understood that...

A better HK film would be "The Mission", "Running out of Time", or the more recent "Infernal Affairs" (watch this before the remake comes out, supposedly with top stars like DiCaprio and Brad Pitt).

[604kicks]

Saw it on the big screen this past weekend.

Still an awesome visual experience, with breath-takingly beautiful scenes. Poetic.

Still not an awesome film, and western audiences will have mixed reactions.

[Talamasca]

Wasn't this the most expensive movie made in China?
Something like 80 million?

Its budget was $30M but still the most expensive Chinese movie ever. It's made about $120M worldwide so far.

[ETF-Commando]

"Infernal Affairs" (watch this before the remake comes out, supposedly with top stars like DiCaprio and Brad Pitt).

I shudder when I think about that.

Why do a remake, they're just gonna mess it up. At least, I hope they advertise that it came from Hong Kong and not an original Hollywood idea...heh heh, Hollywood and original ideas don't belong in the same sentence.

[GiC121]

is this movie only the english version of the chinese version of HERO? because it shouldnt take this long to translate it lol please simplify lol

[Txiasaeia]

Movie is in Mandarin with English subtitles.

Just finished watching it - MUCH better than Crouching Tiger (CTHD's ending was completely incomprehensible to me), although same "style." Reviewers have been calling it "an action movie for the ages," which I would disagree with, but it's still an okay movie. Felt a lot longer than the 90 minutes it actually ran for ;)

[trini]

Wicked ras-claat movie!

Good to see they are still making good movies,i almost cried........
I really love those two ladies might i add.........

[Hanniganite]

I shudder when I think about that.

Why do a remake, they're just gonna mess it up. At least, I hope they advertise that it came from Hong Kong and not an original Hollywood idea...heh heh, Hollywood and original ideas don't belong in the same sentence.

Might not be all bad. Scorsese directing, Damon/DiCaprio (not a Titanic fan but he's not a bad actor) starring. They're releasing Infernal Affairs in theaters October 1

Onto Hero. Trailer is certainly misleading and a lot of people will go to it expecting a fighting extravaganza ("Quentin Tarantino presents" doesn't help to dispel this..). Good movie. More emphasis on the style and cinematography than the action. :cool:

[trini]

Best DVD Packaging i have seen..........Now if you have something like this you can demand big money.
Where has the best price on it?