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Tsukagi
Jul 31st, 2004, 11:53 PM
Anybody go see it??
Is it any good?
CSR
Aug 1st, 2004, 12:15 AM
Didn't see it.. but the reviews from the roger's site showed fair results from many "reviewers" ...
edit: it's here : http://www.hispeed.rogers.com/entertainment/movies/critics_corner.jsp
Blazin_Sunfire
Aug 1st, 2004, 02:30 AM
I JUST SAW IT! It was a really good plot. a lot of interesting twists in it. I give it Blazin_Sunfire's 3 burnouts out of 5!
pauline9_2000
Aug 1st, 2004, 10:56 AM
the movie was too hyped because of shyamalan's previous films, of which the sixth sense is the only good one.
anyway, the internet rumours ruined the movie for me months ago. the ending just seems too convenient and not carefully planned, that's all.
but for those who are curious but don't want to spend your money/time on the film, check out the spoiler here: http://www.themoviespoiler.com/Spoilers/xlvillage.html
Txiasaeia
Aug 1st, 2004, 11:02 AM
the movie was too hyped because of shyamalan's previous films, of which the sixth sense is the only good one.
anyway, the internet rumours ruined the movie for me months ago. the ending just seems too convenient and not carefully planned, that's all.
but for those who are curious but don't want to spend your money/time on the film, check out the spoiler here: http://www.themoviespoiler.com/Spoilers/xlvillage.html
Sixth sense was his weakest work, IMHO. Even signs was better (w/o the cheezy alien at the end, tho). I though the Village was definitely his strongest work, not having followed any rumours whatsoever ;) The relationship between Lucius and Ivy was very touching and the Noah scene was a complete shock. I did call one of the late-movie reveals but not the last, which meant that I was able to fully enjoy it. Terrific movie.
smegger2000
Aug 1st, 2004, 11:39 AM
This is Shamaylan's weakest entry. All the surprises/twists were not very interesting. He really just needs to make a normal movie without the twist ending. He is becoming a one trick director. I thought that the woman who played Ivy was excellent, while I find Joaquin Phoenix very uninteresting as an actor. The worst part of the movie was "Noah" and what happened with him. Also right at the beginning of the movie, the audience is misled which was totally unnecessary for the story to be told.
I would give the movie 5/10.
Blazin_Sunfire
Aug 1st, 2004, 12:01 PM
mwahahahahaha stupid noah.... lol thats what they get for inbreeding!
mikebrown75
Aug 1st, 2004, 12:19 PM
A very, very, very bad movie. The previews are very misleading. BTW what F*&%^*G colour is he anyways?
Hodge
Aug 1st, 2004, 02:02 PM
Saw it on Friday, wasn't impressed. The audience was laughing at a lot of what I assume were meant to be "serious" parts. Read the spoilers, don't wasted your $$.
JAC
Aug 1st, 2004, 02:28 PM
Sixth sense was his weakest work, IMHO. Even signs was better (w/o the cheezy alien at the end, tho).
Are you kidding me? 'Signs' had plot holes large enough to drive a truck through. 'Sixth Sense' was by far his best work.
lip1978
Aug 1st, 2004, 02:36 PM
Just saw it, it was ok... alot of the final ideas went through my head as possible plot twists, so it wasn't a total surprise. Noah's actions were a surprise though, didn't see what he did coming.
nexus-6
Aug 2nd, 2004, 12:21 AM
LOL! the trailer was pretty scary....enough to attract people to watch it.
But for $$ conscious person, its better he waits..for people to see..and checks with their opinion.. ;)
remmuh
Aug 2nd, 2004, 12:41 AM
Saw it yesterday... and I have to say it was SOOOOooooooooooo BORING!
Almost as if nothing happened in the movie. 2 Thumbs down! WAY DOWN!
Zeev20
Aug 2nd, 2004, 12:46 AM
Hello all.
I just saw The Villiage tonight adn all I can say is that it is not an amazing movie and not a bad movie. It was 100% better then Signs in my opinion. The movie is the type you watch once and thats it. I probably would have enjoyed it more if the two senior citzens behind me did not comment about the movie all the time, and to top it off answer the cell-phone near the end of the movie. Instead of geting up and answering the damm thing they simply sat in the chair and talked. The entire 3 rows who could hear her talk were ready to lynch her... :twisted:
pauline9_2000
Aug 2nd, 2004, 12:56 AM
I thought that the woman who played Ivy was excellent, while I find Joaquin Phoenix very uninteresting as an actor.
btw, the actress is bryce dallas howard, daughter of actor/director ron howard. this film is her breakthrough role and she's the only good thing about the movie from what i've read of several reviews.
Montague
Aug 2nd, 2004, 03:01 AM
Sixth sense was his weakest work, IMHO. Even signs was better (w/o the cheezy alien at the end, tho). I though the Village was definitely his strongest work, not having followed any rumours whatsoever
Dude I want to try what you are smoking! :lol:
Surely you jest!
As for the movie.
It was not good
It was not bad either.
Not worth seeing in the theatre.
But worth a rental at blockbuster.
miss_swan
Aug 2nd, 2004, 07:40 AM
the movie was too hyped because of shyamalan's previous films, of which the sixth sense is the only good one.
anyway, the internet rumours ruined the movie for me months ago. the ending just seems too convenient and not carefully planned, that's all.
but for those who are curious but don't want to spend your money/time on the film, check out the spoiler here: http://www.themoviespoiler.com/Spoilers/xlvillage.html
Thanks for the link.
bmaz
Aug 2nd, 2004, 11:06 AM
I guess most people were pissed because they went into the movie expecting to see one thing and saw something else.
I went in there with no real expectations so I was able to take it all in.
I never went into it with the expectation of seeing a horror/suspense flick.
I went to see an M. Night Shyamalan film and I wasn't dissappointed, if I wasn't cheap I would probably go back to see it, with a girl this time.
I would give it at least a 3 out of 5.
trini
Aug 2nd, 2004, 01:50 PM
can't look at scary movies but hes certainly a different/unique film maker in a good way.
Txiasaeia
Aug 2nd, 2004, 02:50 PM
I'm still standing by what I said about Sixth Sense. It's the only one of his films that I called the ending before the end of the movie. It's still very good, but perhaps because of the content I liked Signs better. The little kid, the question of fate, and the line "I am insane with anger!" all makes Signs better than Sixth Sense ;)
*SPOILERS - DO NOT READ IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN!*
I thought that the language in the Village was a bit stilted, but I think it's his best work primarily because of the ties to folklore - I don't think I can say too much without spoiling, but what really interested me was how Lucius was built up as the main character through the first part, but how Ivy took it over the responsibility in the latter half. Noah was *not* inbred - he was the first generation child in the Village, so I have no idea why he was insane, but his character was absolutely brilliant.
I liked the massive character development in this movie - in Sixth Sense, Bruce Willis goes from child psychologist to dead child psychologist, that's it. In Unbreakable, Bruce goes from superhero who doesn't know he's a hero to one who realises his own powers. Signs did it a bit better, with Mel Gibson's transformation throughout the movie, and his eventual rediscovery of God & fate at the end.
But the Village - look at Ivy! Man, talk about your transformation from innocent blind girl to "hero"! The relationship between Ivy and Lucius, how Lucius protects Ivy at first but their roles reverse when Lucius is hurt! Noah's transformation from village idiot to... what, stalker? Freak? William Hurt from stoic, kind leader to "cult" leader? In his previous three movies, the "reveal" didn't change a lot, but the reveal in the Village changed how I perceived *everything* - characters were changed from innocent to escapist, weak to strong, etc. etc. The whole question about the monsters, well, I called that as soon as I saw the locked boxes (in other words, for the wrong reason), but I totally didn't see the ending coming!
Best work. Sixth Sense was a straightforward ghost story with a twist at the end. Unbreakable was very interesting, but the characters didn't move very much. Signs was just a lot of fun, especially with Bo's contaminated water and the way that everything came together in the end. But the Village is quality, quality work. Feel free to disagree with me, but you have to admit that the characters in the Village were much more rounded than in his previous movies!
*END SPOILERS*
Serveza
Aug 2nd, 2004, 06:44 PM
I enjoyed it... the acting was kinda terrible by most of the actors... I'm not sure if they were just trying to show otherworldliness by doing that, or if the acting was just actually that bad.
The main twist didn't surprise me too much. It did surprise the two people I was with to see it though. It was very enjoyable and sweet, too. More of a romance than a thriller, I felt.
geminiz
Aug 3rd, 2004, 02:15 AM
Shyamalan is one of the most overrated one-hit-wonder (Sixth Sense..duh!) director I know..
next Steven Spilberg my #$@#% ass...
and to be honest, Sixth Sense was good mostly because the kid acts well.
voodoo401
Aug 3rd, 2004, 03:00 PM
So it looks like you either liked it or hated it.
D-Sisive
Aug 3rd, 2004, 05:11 PM
i didnt like it...the village were almost cult like people...mennonites
Torley Wong
Aug 3rd, 2004, 06:22 PM
If anyone wants complete spoilers, written really well, I strongly suggest ya visit here:
http://www.themoviespoiler.com/
It's a nice place to be.
Keelie
Aug 3rd, 2004, 08:57 PM
i found it boring and not the least bit scary. good twist at the end, but it could of been done a LOT better to make it a more enjoyable movie. there didnt seem to be much substance.
the acting wasnt very good either, except of course for ivy.
evilserge
Aug 4th, 2004, 12:12 AM
i like the twist at the end, that movie wasnt that good tho =/ i shoulda went and watched irobot.
BoxsterS
Aug 6th, 2004, 12:27 AM
I just saw it tonight and I really liked it. It's a suspense filled love story with a nice plot twist at the end that I didn't really expect. It's something that wasn't really telegraphed (which I appreciated). It's also probably the only movie M. Knight has done that is even remotely plausible. If you were expecting a horror movie or a blood fest then it's unfortunate you didn't get your quota of gratuitous violence. Instead, you got a touching love story that you actually sat through and, in retrospect, you'll appreciate in the future.
Txiasaeia
Aug 6th, 2004, 12:40 AM
I just saw it tonight and I really liked it. It's a suspense filled love story with a nice plot twist at the end that I didn't really expect. It's something that wasn't really telegraphed (which I appreciated). It's also probably the only movie M. Knight has done that is even remotely plausible. If you were expecting a horror movie or a blood fest then it's unfortunate you didn't get your quota of gratuitous violence. Instead, you got a touching love story that you actually sat through and, in retrospect, you'll appreciate in the future.
First time I've agreed with you ;) I never really thought of it as a love story, but now that I'm thinking about it, I can see where you're getting that from. I still see it more as a bildungsroman (http://65.107.211.206/victorian/genre/hader1.html) than a love story - Ivy's reason for going on her quest is because of love, but at the heart it's really more of a story of development.
BoxsterS
Aug 6th, 2004, 01:25 AM
First time I've agreed with you ;) I never really thought of it as a love story, but now that I'm thinking about it, I can see where you're getting that from. I still see it more as a bildungsroman (http://65.107.211.206/victorian/genre/hader1.html) than a love story - Ivy's reason for going on her quest is because of love, but at the heart it's really more of a story of development.
Ivy develops into a heroin because of her love for Lucious. If it were not for her love and her inability to live without Lucious she would not have had the passion to undertake the journey. But, what really got me was when Ivy started talking about how Lucious would always take her by the hand when they were young and how he suddenly stopped. Yet, whenever Ivy was in danger he was always there to take her by the hand and guide her to safety. There's a terrific moment in the film where everyone is scurrying for shelter and you see Ivy with her hand held out and it’s suddenly snatched by Lucious – almost as if she expected it. When everyone was panicking to find shelter, Lucious’s first priority was to find Ivy and put her life before his.
Hanniganite
Aug 6th, 2004, 01:41 AM
I just saw it tonight and I really liked it. It's a suspense filled love story with a nice plot twist at the end that I didn't really expect. It's something that wasn't really telegraphed (which I appreciated). It's also probably the only movie M. Knight has done that is even remotely plausible. If you were expecting a horror movie or a blood fest then it's unfortunate you didn't get your quota of gratuitous violence. Instead, you got a touching love story that you actually sat through and, in retrospect, you'll appreciate in the future.
I agree. And yes, it's not an incredibly scary horror film with a crazy twist like everybody expects all of Shymalan's movies to be. In addition to what you said, it's also a social commentary. This seems like a movie that's a love it/hate it as exampled by Ebert/Roeper's reviews. But I liked it, and it was free :cool:
BoxsterS
Aug 6th, 2004, 01:53 AM
I agree. And yes, it's not an incredibly scary horror film with a crazy twist like everybody expects all of Shymalan's movies to be. In addition to what you said, it's also a social commentary. This seems like a movie that's a love it/hate it as exampled by Ebert/Roeper's reviews. But I liked it, and it was free :cool:
I was reading a review and it mentioned that the plot twist at the end was telegraphed and obvious. If it was then I missed it because I didn't see anything in the movie that revealed it. But, I agree with you about the pre-conceived expectations people have about a M. Knight Shymalan film. He should have released the film under the name Anonymous.
Serveza
Aug 6th, 2004, 08:50 AM
Instead, you got a touching love story that you actually sat through and, in retrospect, you'll appreciate in the future.
Exactly. Thus why I called it a romance... it really was lovely in that respect.
SPOILERS FOLLOW
I found that it wasn't necessarily obvious, but the twist was... I was expecting something like that... I figured there must be something really "terrible", or at least different, about the Towns b/c why would anyone reject 18th century towns? More than just the violence they described... I expected something really weird... and I wasn't disappointed. Except I wasn't as shocked as everyone else seems to be... kinda wish I was, cos it would've been more fun. Buuut... I was really touched by the love, I always love a romance, so it's all good :D
mochachicka
Aug 6th, 2004, 10:40 PM
Sixth sense was his weakest work, IMHO. Even signs was better (w/o the cheezy alien at the end, tho). I though the Village was definitely his strongest work, not having followed any rumours whatsoever ;) The relationship between Lucius and Ivy was very touching and the Noah scene was a complete shock. I did call one of the late-movie reveals but not the last, which meant that I was able to fully enjoy it. Terrific movie.
are you serious? I have a completely opposite opinion...I thought the Sixth Sense was his best work, with Signs being his worst....haven't seen The Village yet, but with the way the reviews are going I don't think I'll even bother...
Tricks
Aug 8th, 2004, 12:35 PM
I thought signs was kind of weak, but still entertaining. My fav movie of his is unbreakable. Might go see village tonight.
Serveza
Aug 8th, 2004, 01:11 PM
This is so funny... Sixth Sense blew me away. Unbreakable seemed quite weak to me, and Signs was SOOOO scary, I really enjoyed it, thought it tied in really well. I'd rank the Village a little above Unbreakable...
kiyochi
Aug 8th, 2004, 11:48 PM
I enjoyed the movie from the begining to the end! I think the Village is good because it really offer me a lot of things: Romance, hate, love, excitment, a little twist, and some meaning. I love the directing of this movie.
If you just enjoy plain scary/creepy movie, then the village is not the movie for you.
Some people said that "The sign" is bad. But I totally love that movie. If you didn't understand why at the very end the father of the boy said, "thats why you get ashema!" Then i suggest you watch the movie again. :D
emptypocket
Aug 8th, 2004, 11:54 PM
it's gotten so many bad reviews i kinda want to see just how bad it is.
lots of stars in it though....could be interesting.
bmaz
Aug 9th, 2004, 01:02 AM
I think the reason why some many people have so many varied responses to M. Night's movie, is because they expect to see the same kind of movie from him.
IMHO Sixth Sense, Unbreakable, Signs and and the Village are not all from the same genre.
They all have some elements of creepyness or spookyness but thats where it ends.
Unbreakable has the (super) hero element, Signs has a religious element, and the Village has love.
So arguing over which one is the best is pointless, since you are not comparing apples to apples.
And for the people who find it hard to believe that people would reject modern conveniences, we do have people like that around, they are called Amish.
Fitty Beer
Aug 10th, 2004, 09:54 PM
Just came from seeing this THING tonight. I thought it was a movie that could have been so much more. The story itself was very original if you stop to think about it. Nothing scary and not to spoil anything.....
but...... I knew the final twist was coming when the first one was revealed.
and this is my 100th post
Anyway, at least I can say I saw it and as others have said, Ivy was the ONLY thing this movie had going for it.
FuNPoLiCe001
Aug 11th, 2004, 01:55 PM
M Night is reportedly getting sued by someone for ripping off their story which was written in 1995, which is basically the same story as the Village
A similar thing happened to him after Signs came out, which he reportedly ripped off another woman...
heard this on the radio this morning
Torley Wong
Aug 11th, 2004, 05:24 PM
Yup, I don't know if it was a coincidence or more than that, but judge for yourself:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0689800843/103-5615206-7723828?v=glance
Jessie Keyser, 13, believes that the year is 1840. In truth, she and her family, along with a small group of others, live in a reconstructed village viewed by unseen modern tourists and used as an experimental site by unethical scientists. Jessie discovers the truth when her mother asks her to leave the village and seek medical help for the diptheria epidemic that has struck the children of the community.
Shades of Simba and Kimba! :)
part-trader
Aug 12th, 2004, 09:41 AM
i enjoyed this movie
bembem
Aug 16th, 2004, 01:11 PM
A very, very, very bad movie. The previews are very misleading. BTW what F*&%^*G colour is he anyways?
A very, very, very good movie.
Not to be confrontational, but how can you bash a movie if you couldn't grasp the basics (ex: the bad color, or the color of the main character) of the movie?
IF YOU GET BORED EASILY, DO NOT WATCH THIS MOVIE.
This is not a horror or action movie. THIS IS A STORY WEAVED INTO A MOVIE MIXED WITH SPELLS OF SUSPENSE.
Ojam
Aug 16th, 2004, 01:52 PM
I enjoyed it, I really didn't see the ending coming, and it didn't even occur to me that they may have been rejecting another civilization, but rather that it was just another village somewhere in 18th century America, that just happens to have creatures in the woods. After seeing it, I do have to say that it seems like it may actually have some social commentary in it, about using fear as a form of control.
Serveza
Aug 16th, 2004, 06:57 PM
It's not really that surprising, I mean the idea isn't original. No idea is original; everything has been thought of before. So really... he just took one version of the idea and ran with it. So what? I think it's ridiculous someone's suing him for it. I mean come on, who hasn't thought of doing something similar? I know I had (just not in a movie, as real life).
Yup, I don't know if it was a coincidence or more than that, but judge for yourself:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0689800843/103-5615206-7723828?v=glance
Jessie Keyser, 13, believes that the year is 1840. In truth, she and her family, along with a small group of others, live in a reconstructed village viewed by unseen modern tourists and used as an experimental site by unethical scientists. Jessie discovers the truth when her mother asks her to leave the village and seek medical help for the diptheria epidemic that has struck the children of the community.
Shades of Simba and Kimba! :)
LtFransky
Jan 14th, 2005, 09:52 PM
Goddam Effin piece of Rat-***** useless movie! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! What a lame ending! Jesus! I could see it coming a mile away and it so pissed me off! Hippies? Jesus H Christ! That is so bad! Ugh!
Enuf Ranting!
Txiasaeia
Jan 14th, 2005, 11:25 PM
Goddam Effin piece of Rat-***** useless movie! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! What a lame ending! Jesus! I could see it coming a mile away and it so pissed me off! Hippies? Jesus H Christ! That is so bad! Ugh!
Enuf Ranting!
Wow, nice resurrect. I bought it in Tuesday, planning on watching it tomorrow.
espeed
Jan 15th, 2005, 01:48 AM
This movie was one of the most boring movies I've ever seen, didn't think the plot was all that special
cmge
Jan 15th, 2005, 02:01 AM
it suked ass like all of M Nite Shamaylaman (however u spell it)... i didnt think the 6th sense was all that great either... -_-
LtFransky
Jan 17th, 2005, 08:53 AM
Wow, nice resurrect. I bought it in Tuesday, planning on watching it tomorrow.
My wife laughed at me. I was so pissed at the movie that I threw a pillow at the TV. Then I jumped straight here to rant! Sorry to resurrect such an old topic.
And yes, the blind chick is hot, considering she is Richie Cunningham's daughter:)
And incidentally, could someone please explain to me where all of the other adults in the Village came from? If there were 3 or 4 original couples that started that place, how did the others get there? Why would they be so apt to believe the stories about the creatures? Help! It doesn't make any sense.