Your Definition of GTA?

[Mrs_Popo]

To me the GTA includes:

North York
Downtown
Markham
Scarborough
Etobicoke

It does not include:

Mississauga
Brampton
Pickering
Newmarket

The reason for this thread is simple. I was shopping for something in the BST, a fellow member said he was in the GTA. I asked where specifically and he said Brampton. Had he told me right from the get-go that he was in Brampton I wouldn't have had my hopes up.

Under location, we should all be forced to put the first three letters/numbers of our postal codes.

Maybe this should be under suggestions, but I would rather get more responses from the off-topic.

[Squiggles]

If Markham is part of the GTA then so is Brampton and Mississauga.

[originalnutta]

you're from Etobicoke, OP?

[Hairball]

I would think all those are part of the GTA as well.

Personally I would think areas like Oshawa, Hamilton, and Barrie are not the Greater Toronto Area, they are their own regions.

[taylyn]

Pearson Airport is in Mississauga, so therefore in the GTA.

[Mrs_Popo]

If Markham is part of the GTA then so is Brampton and Mississauga.

Does Markham have its own Mayor? if it does, maybe it shouldn't be included in my definition.

you're from Etobicoke, OP?

I am from Oxenden. Currently living in Sudbury though.

Pearson Airport is in Mississauga, so therefore in the GTA.

Good point, lol.

[nuberific]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1a/Greater_toronto_area_map.svg/643px-Greater_toronto_area_map.svg.png

Wikipedia is never wrong. GTA extends as far as Halton, Peel, York, and Durham.

Although in my personal usage, I don't include Halton and Durham.

[1xTiMeR]

My GTA hardly fits op's definition.

I'd put it as:

North - Dupont St.
East - Broadview
West - Dundas -Keele - Lansdown
South - Lakeshore Blvd

[Mrs_Popo]

Good stuff!

So, for our community, which regions on that map would you EXCLUDE and NOT consider to be a part of the GTA?

For example, when someone you meet for the first time tells you they are from the GTA, and then they say they are from Caledon... Would you accept that as GTA? Or would you argue with them about it?

[1xTiMeR]

Wikipedia is never wrong. GTA extends as far as Halton, Peel, York, and Durham.

Although in my personal usage, I don't include Halton and Durham.

Wiki is never wrong? Perhaps not on this topic, but wiki is unreliable. Although, they do give a good summary of what to expect, but again a majority of info is off.

[Mrs_Popo]

My GTA hardly fits op's definition.

I'd put it as:

North - Dupont St.
East - Broadview
West - Dundas -Keele - Lansdown
South - Lakeshore Blvd

That was the point of this thread, to display all the different views regarding what the GTA is made up of.

It would be easy if members said "Caledon" or "Markham" or "brampton" instead of the broad term "GTA"

[Mrs_Popo]

Wiki is never wrong? Perhaps not on this topic, but wiki is unreliable. Although, they do give a good summary of what to expect, but again a majority of info is off.

I think he/she was joking. I wouldn't use Wikipedia in a formal essay, but it is a great resource to get headed in the right direction.

[Piro21]

If someone who lives downtown has to look it up on google to know where it is, it's not in the GTA. That's the rule I follow anyways.

[win-star]

Your Definition of GTA?

GTA - Grand Theft Auto

[elton5354]

Toronto is Toronto. GTA is the regional areas surrounding Toronto. DOH!

[Squally425]

Zombies.

[007craft]

Gta is just like that map posted from wiki. Im living in bc now and when people ask me where im from, I say toronto. Not markham, which they most likely never heard of. Only further stuff like hamilton, barrie, etc etc is not gta.

[taylyn]

Another way to look at it is anything within an hour drive radius of Toronto is the Greater Toronto Area. Toronto is Toronto. It's the radius surrounding Toronto.

[Sauerkraut]

Another way to look at it is anything within an hour drive radius of Toronto is the Greater Toronto Area. Toronto is Toronto. It's the radius surrounding Toronto.

Wait till the first snowfall. A 1-hr drive would be anything north of Gerrard!

[Nettles]

It does not include:

Mississauga


You clearly don't now what it's like to live in this place. It says it's a city but it's not a city even if it has a city hall.

You could look at this from an urban geographers perspective. The problem is that in urban geography, there are tonnes of definitions for what a city is. They might be based on population or municipality but the more important one is the functional definition (people from a lot of these areas commute to Toronto and vice-versa....they have other links that don't just involve jobs, the GO bus transport network is an example). The definition of what the GTA is actually really important for administrative reasons for the gov't. Every country has its own definitions of what an urban area is and which ones are separate.

[13sundin]

so markham is part of the Greater TORONTO Area?

If so why do we still get free bags? :lol:

[Hairball]

so markham is part of the Greater TORONTO Area?

If so why do we still get free bags? :lol:

Greater Toronto Area is more of a regional definition, as opposed to political. The bag charge is only in the City of Toronto.

[Mrs_Popo]

Greater Toronto Area is more of a regional definition, as opposed to political. The bag charge is only in the City of Toronto.

Thats a very nice way to phrase it.

regional difference
political difference

I consider the markham/north york border to be part of the GTA, but anything north of hwy 7 or 16th... thats pushing it.

[darkprince]

Crappy City w/ Shady politician laundering money around and causing a lot of debt and unable to support essential services.

+ Fees
+ Taxes

+ Crimes
+ Justice System is wack

[aquariaguy]

http://www.gtawh.com/images/lcs/map.jpg

[XxXSnake23XxX]

http://www.rockstargames.com/IV/MYSPACE/imgs/GTAIV_MS_White_Hooker.jpg

[Mrs_Popo]

http://www.rockstargames.com/IV/MYSPACE/imgs/GTAIV_MS_White_Hooker.jpg

Thats a picture of a girl.

[Hairball]

Thats a picture of a girl.

From a famous game called Grand Theft Auto, I suppose.

[45ED]

Thats a picture of a girl.

O rly?

[Firebot]

To me the GTA includes:

North York
Downtown
Markham
Scarborough
Etobicoke

It does not include:

Mississauga
Brampton
Pickering
Newmarket


LOL I love how you include Markham but not Mississauga or Pickering which also directly border Toronto

[express.items]

I think the Wiki map is too big... I would include anything bordering the City of Toronto.

[nuberific]

Wiki is never wrong? Perhaps not on this topic, but wiki is unreliable. Although, they do give a good summary of what to expect, but again a majority of info is off.

I was joking.

[gman]

I can't believe so many people do not understand:

Toronto is Toronto, usually means City of Toronto.
GTA is Greater Toronto AREA and it is NOT just Toronto but including its surrounding area.

A surrounding area almost must include its immediate neighbours such as Markham and Mississauga.

If GTA is just Toronto (or City of Toronto), why bother making a new term?

[smolek]

everything east of cornwall to windsor

[hagbard]

your definition of gta?

gta - grand theft auto

+1

[wiggy]

Zombies.

Braaaains.

[wiggy]

To me the GTA includes:

North York
Downtown
Markham
Scarborough
Etobicoke


That's the GMA (Greater Markham Area). So how is life at the centre of the universe?

Selfish thread.

[Mrs_Popo]

I can't believe so many people do not understand:

Toronto is Toronto, usually means City of Toronto.
GTA is Greater Toronto AREA and it is NOT just Toronto but including its surrounding area.

A surrounding area almost must include its immediate neighbours such as Markham and Mississauga.

If GTA is just Toronto (or City of Toronto), why bother making a new term?

I agree, the surrounding area is called the GTA, but some areas are almost 1 hour away from the city of Toronto.

For the purposes we have on RFD, lets say we want to meet up and make a deal, and 1 guy has GTA listed under his Location... and the other person is from the "GTA" too. Take into consideration that they have been sending back and forth PMs about making a deal, only to ask finally, "so where in the GTA are you?" And it turns out 1 guy is from brampton and the other is from pickering.

The entire point of this thread was to bring that to the communities attention so we could change that.

[jerrysiz]

I agree, the surrounding area is called the GTA, but some areas are almost 1 hour away from the city of Toronto.

For the purposes we have on RFD, lets say we want to meet up and make a deal, and 1 guy has GTA listed under his Location... and the other person is from the "GTA" too. Take into consideration that they have been sending back and forth PMs about making a deal, only to ask finally, "so where in the GTA are you?" And it turns out 1 guy is from brampton and the other is from pickering.

The entire point of this thread was to bring that to the communities attention so we could change that.

It doesn't seem like most people are interested in changing it. What's the big problem? If location in the GTA is such a dealbreaker for you, don't wait so long to ask where they are.

[Jay Hova]

If your home-phone is a 416 or 905, excluding Hamilton. GTA, in my books.

[UrbanPoet]

My GTA hardly fits op's definition.

I'd put it as:

North - Dupont St.
East - Broadview
West - Dundas -Keele - Lansdown
South - Lakeshore Blvd

I'd consider that "Central Toronto". Pretty much anywhere downtown or just a bit outside of the d/t core.

Otherwise... the True defnition of the GTA is Toronto, York, Peel, Halton and Durham

[LeeBoA]

First thing that comes to mind.. Grand theft auto

[45ED]

LOL I love how you include Markham but not Mississauga or Pickering which also directly border Toronto

OP apparently forgot about that whole amalgamation thing where North York, Scarborough et al. were merged to form the current City of Toronto, and that bordering municipalities like Mississauga and Pickering are parts of the Greater Toronto Area (where "Greater" refers to those municipalities just outside of Toronto).

Am I showing my age by being aware that amalgamation even happened?

So Toronto equals Steeles (North), Highway 427/Eglinton Ave W/Etobicoke Creek (West), Areas along Lake Ontario (South), and York Durham Line/Rouge River to the East.

Greater Toronto Area (municipalities outside of Toronto) includes whatever is in Durham, Halton, Peel, and York Region. So Mississauga and Pickering and all that stuff? Greater Toronto Area.

I've always considered GTA to be just the areas outside of Toronto due to the inclusion of "Greater" in the name, but some folks include Toronto in GTA. I suppose YMMV.

[macy69]

...I've always considered GTA to be just the areas outside of Toronto due to the inclusion of "Greater" in the name, but some folks include Toronto in GTA. I suppose YMMV.

The city of Toronto is definitely part of the GTA. This reminds me of a comment from a recent i want a turtle... what do i need? thread

:arrowd::arrowd:
you'll definitely need a turtle.

[Paolo]

what about the greater mississauga area? the GMA?

also how can thornhill be both part of markham and vaughan at same time? one half of thornhill has linda jackson as the mayor the other has some chineese dude?

[Hairball]

what about the greater mississauga area? the GMA?

also how can thornhill be both part of markham and vaughan at same time? one half of thornhill has linda jackson as the mayor the other has some chineese dude?

Thornhill isn't a municipality, it's a community that is split in parts of two municipalities, Markham and Vaughan. And also the Mayor of Markham is not Chinese.

[45ED]

The city of Toronto is definitely part of the GTA. This reminds me of a comment from a recent i want a turtle... what do i need? thread

:arrowd::arrowd:

So the GTA is basically a big four-fingered hand: Toronto forms the palm, and Halton, Peel, York, and Durham forms the fingers.

[champlinD]

Mine is same as official one.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1a/Greater_toronto_area_map.svg/643px-Greater_toronto_area_map.svg.png

[Akraz]

To me the GTA includes:

North York
Downtown
Markham
Scarborough
Etobicoke


are you stupid? If you live in any of those sub-cities of Toronto you are still LIVING IN TORONTO with the exception of Markham.

All of those are parts of Toronto just like Cooksville, Applewood, Clarkson, Malton, etc is a part of Mississauga. We just arent as "formal" anymore. We just say we live in Mississauga now as a whole.

GTA is Mississauga, Brampton, Markham, Pickering, Vaughan, Oakville


Your logic is so flawed I cant even begin to imagine how many crackpipes you hit last night. How do you include DOWNTOWN as a part of the GTA?

The GREATER TORONTO AREA includes cities surrounding Toronto but doesn't actually include TORONTO ITSELF

[Psubs]

Half hour from Union Station drive with no traffic.

Mississauga, Brampton, Vaughan, Richmond Hill, Scarborough.

Pickering / Ajax and Oakville are borderline.

[Mrs_Popo]

are you stupid? If you live in any of those sub-cities of Toronto you are still LIVING IN TORONTO with the exception of Markham.

All of those are parts of Toronto just like Cooksville, Applewood, Clarkson, Malton, etc is a part of Mississauga. We just arent as "formal" anymore. We just say we live in Mississauga now as a whole.

GTA is Mississauga, Brampton, Markham, Pickering, Vaughan, Oakville


Your logic is so flawed I cant even begin to imagine how many crackpipes you hit this morning. How do you include DOWNTOWN as a part of the GTA?

The GREATER TORONTO AREA includes cities surrounding Toronto but don't actually include TORONTO ITSELF

Yes, I am stupid. You are a genius and you know everything there is to know in the world. I will never question your greatness.

[Hairball]

The GREATER TORONTO AREA includes cities surrounding Toronto but doesn't actually include TORONTO ITSELF

The definition of Greater Toronto Area usually includes Toronto itself, that is the place with the 416 area code.

[macy69]

are you stupid? ...

...
The GREATER TORONTO AREA includes cities surrounding Toronto but doesn't actually include TORONTO ITSELF

Some posters think that if they berate the original quote, then bold and capitalize their MISCONCEPTIONS, that it then will become the truth.

Fortunately, common sense usually prevails.

[twotterdhc6]

All of those are parts of Toronto just like Cooksville, Applewood, Clarkson, Malton, etc is a part of Mississauga. We just arent as "formal" anymore. We just say we live in Mississauga now as a whole.


Actually, a lot of people, including myself, like to refer to our community rather than big bad Mississauga. I live in Streetsville and work in Port Credit. :)

[45ED]

Actually, a lot of people, including myself, like to refer to our community rather than big bad Mississauga. I live in Streetsville and work in Port Credit. :)

Same thing with folks in Toronto: even though we're all one big Toronto, some folks still refer to their area with "I live in Scarborough/East York/etc." when asked the where-do-you-live question, for example. It's less about what is official and more about what one is use to.

[Mrs_Popo]

Same thing with folks in Toronto: even though we're all one big Toronto, some folks still refer to their area with "I live in Scarborough/East York/etc." when asked the where-do-you-live question, for example. It's less about what is official and more about what one is use to.

I agree, there is the official and unofficial.

How many Philipinos do you know that call them selves asian? Personally asian to me means people that are oriental, and I typically exclude philipinos and indians... etc from the everyday use of the word "asian"

I dont know why so many people are getting so angry over this thread, I find it funny though.

[teknoluv]

To me the GTA includes ...
To me, the world never exists beyond my condo.

[45ED]

I agree, there is the official and unofficial.

How many Philipinos do you know that call them selves asian? Personally asian to me means people that are oriental, and I typically exclude philipinos and indians... etc from the everyday use of the word "asian"

I dont know why so many people are getting so angry over this thread, I find it funny though.

It might be because there was a difference between what you posted (IYO) as being part of the GTA and what others (including myself) posted as being part of the GTA - the latter being similar if not the same as the official explanation of what makes up the GTA.

Or it might be that this thread doesn't have a clear objective in what it wants to do. Define the GTA? Make clear/distinct one's location for purpose of RFD's BST? Etc.

Or maybe something else, I don't know.

[Hairball]

Same thing with folks in Toronto: even though we're all one big Toronto, some folks still refer to their area with "I live in Scarborough/East York/etc." when asked the where-do-you-live question, for example. It's less about what is official and more about what one is use to.

While true, it is merged into a single city now. But as the city is so large, it is irrelevant to say you just live in Toronto. The community helps narrow it down.

[Mrs_Popo]

It might be because there was a difference between what you posted (IYO) as being part of the GTA and what others (including myself) posted as being part of the GTA - the latter being similar if not the same as the official explanation of what makes up the GTA.

Or it might be that this thread doesn't have a clear objective in what it wants to do. Define the GTA? Make clear/distinct one's location for purpose of RFD's BST? Etc.

Or maybe something else, I don't know.
Make clear/distinct one's location for purpose of RFD's BST?

[45ED]

Make clear/distinct one's location for purpose of RFD's BST?

If so, then the next time you're trading, you should include in your post the requirement of identifying what community/whatever the prospective person is from. And if someone PMs you and states he/she is from the GTA, ask him/her to be more specific since GTA is too general.

Problem solved.

[Akraz]

Actually, a lot of people, including myself, like to refer to our community rather than big bad Mississauga. I live in Streetsville and work in Port Credit. :)

No one up here ever says they live in "Malton". or "North Sauga"...as a joke "up here" is now referred to as "HEARTLAND CENTER"

I can understand Port Credit or Streetsville.

How many Philipinos do you know that call them selves asian?

Every single one of my philippino friends calls them self Asian. and I have a lot of Philippine friends. (Im italian)

The definition of Greater Toronto Area usually includes Toronto itself, that is the place with the 416 area code.

Area codes have nothing to do with it. That is your monopoly corporations acting like idiots. The term GTA was coined to define the areas SURROUNDING Toronto. It is simply literal LOGIC. When you live in toronto, example, St. Clair/Dufferin, youre not considered part of the GTA. Because youre IN toronto. Youre not part of the greater area.

How does this not make sense to you?

[Jay Hova]

What about - if the TTC operates in your area, it's the GTA? Seems to make sense..although it does excludes a few cities...like Oakville and Burlington...

Or, like I said earlier - area-code is 416 or 905, excluding Hamilton.

[Cheap Cat]

It's not surprising that so many people don't know what the GTA is since many don't understand what Toronto is. I remember right after Toronto was amalgamated, I was processing an application and the person had listed their city as "Mega City". I couldn't for the life of me figure out where Mega City was in Ontario, to forward the application for processing, until my manager pointed out that the person meant Toronto.

As some have correctly pointed out, the city of Toronto is Toronto which includes the former cities of Toronto, North York, Etobicoke, Scarborough, York and the borough of East York. The GTA is the surrounding area: Durham, Halton, Peel, York regions.

I was born in the borough of Etobicoke, which later became the city of Etobicoke and now is part of the city of Toronto.

[45ED]

No one up here ever says they live in "Malton". or "North Sauga"

I can understand Port Credit or Streetsville.

Every single one of my philippino friends calls them self Asian. and I have a lot of Philippine friends.

Area codes have nothing to do with it. That is your monopoly corporations acting like idiots. The term GTA was coined to define the areas SURROUNDING Toronto. It is simply literal LOGIC. When you live in toronto, example, St. Clair/Dufferin, youre not considered part of the GTA. Because youre IN toronto. Youre not part of the greater area.

How does this not make sense to you?

I'd hold back on being so aggressive and know-it-all:

City of Toronto Immigration & Settlement Portal

About Toronto

Toronto and the GTA (Greater Toronto Area)

[...]

Toronto, home to 2.6 million people, is part of the Greater Toronto Area that includes the Regional Municipalities of York, Halton, Peel and Durham with a total population of 5.2 million. More people live in the City of Toronto than in Canada's four Atlantic Provinces combined.

(Source (http://www.toronto.ca/immigration/gta_environ_imm.htm))

[Akraz]

I'd hold back on being so aggressive and know-it-all:

I saw that but there is so much open to debate that doesn't even make sense. If you lived right in the downtown core of toronto, how does it make any sense in its simplest form that you are part of the greater area?

Why not just call it the TA then? Toronto Area?

[45ED]

I saw that but there is so much open to debate that doesn't even make sense. If you lived right in the downtown core of toronto, how does it make any sense in it's simplest form that you are part of the greater area?

Why not just call it the TA then? Toronto Area?

Sensible nomenclature is not a strong suit of the economic/political folks.

I agree it is confusing to include Toronto as part of the GTA because, as I've mentioned before, the nature of the word "Greater" means the outside area of a particular location.

But the GTA includes Toronto. It is what it is.

[Akraz]

Sensible nomenclature is not a strong suit of the economic/political folks.

I agree it is confusing to include Toronto as part of the GTA because, as I've mentioned before, the nature of the word "Greater" means the outside area of a particular location.

But the GTA includes Toronto. It is what it is.

That's the exact point I was getting at. It all seems silly to me then.

Sorry if I acted a little hostile/agressive.

[45ED]

That's the exact point I was getting at. It all seems silly to me then.

Sorry if I acted a little hostile/agressive.

S'all cool. ;)

They didn't decide to refer to Toronto as the Toronto area and have the GTA be Halton, Peel, York, and Durham because it didn't occur to them for whatever reason.

FWIW, Toronto's the center for all things bizarre - mayor(s), strikes, protests, etc. Best of all? Policies including parking rules and naming things. So I'm also not surprised over the confusion over what is or isn't part of the GTA - anything involving Toronto is never simple or logical. :lol:

[firetrainer]

I cant believe the definition is up for debate. You would have to be a grade A moron to include Markham and not Mississuaga.

[Sauerkraut]

...The term GTA was coined to define the areas SURROUNDING Toronto. It is simply literal LOGIC. When you live in toronto, example, St. Clair/Dufferin, youre not considered part of the GTA. Because youre IN toronto. Youre not part of the greater area

no

...As some have correctly pointed out, the city of Toronto is Toronto which includes the former cities of Toronto, North York, Etobicoke, Scarborough, York and the borough of East York. The GTA is the surrounding area: Durham, Halton, Peel, York regions.

again, no.

Any regional, contiguous population that's denoted with Greater <fill in the blanks> Area will always, always, always contain the central city after which it's named.

For example, the Greater Tokyo Area contains.....wait for it......TOKYO. It's such a novel idea, isn't it!

[gman]

I personally don't see the word Greater is confusing.

How is something greater if it is not 'greater' than what it compares with?

In this case, if Greater Toronto Area does not include Toronto Area, how do you define 'greater'? If GTA does not include Toronto, does someone have to make sure the combined GTA area (excluding City of Toronto) is 'greater' than the area of City of Toronto?

I was never confused about GTA including Toronto. If it does not include Toronto, it would confuse me.

[dipple]

There is one thing I've gained from every debate like this. The closer you are to downtown, the smaller your view of the GTA/Toronto is.

I encounter downtown people who argue that Scarborough is not part of Toronto, when it is. I encounter Scarborough people who say Scarborough is the edge of the GTA. Its like everyone wants to be part of some exclusive club called Toronto, which they make exclusive by arguing that that the smallest ares possible (as long as in includes them) is Toronto.

[Tijuana]

From http://www.greatertoronto.org/index.html

The Greater Toronto Area (GTA) is one of North America's fastest-growing economic regions. Covering more than 7,000 square kilometers, the GTA consists of 25 municipalities and four regions with a total population of 5 million. With a work force of approximately 2.9 million people, more than 100,000 companies, and a gross domestic product of U.S $109 billion, the GTA is Canada's undisputed business and manufacturing capital.

http://www.greatertoronto.org/images/maps/gta_large.gif

[Yankees 1903]

Wait, the OP does not consider Mississauga part of the GTA but Markham is? Both border the city of Toronto. Also the OP should not be walking around with his own definition of the GTA when dealing in the BST forum. When the potential buyer said he lived in the GTA he was correct. It's your own fault that you had your own definition of what the GTA is. The GTA to me is whatever the the map says it is, it's not like any of us are part of a special club by saying we live in the GTA.

[_Allan_]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1a/Greater_toronto_area_map.svg/643px-Greater_toronto_area_map.svg.png

For me ... I consider the goldenrod area as "Toronto", Peel, York, Durham I call "Greater Toronto" and Halton over to Niagra, and now to some extent Guelph / Waterloo and anywhere GO transit goes, I call the MUCH Greater Toronto Area or MGTA

[45ED]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1a/Greater_toronto_area_map.svg/643px-Greater_toronto_area_map.svg.png

For me ... I consider the goldenrod area as "Toronto", Peel, York, Durham I call "Greater Toronto" and Halton over to Niagra, and now to some extent Guelph / Waterloo and anywhere GO transit goes, I call the MUCH Greater Toronto Area or MGTA
Okay, now you're just going to confuse people. :lol:

[_Allan_]

[/B]
Okay, now you're just going to confuse people. :lol:

Nah ... You got Toronto, Greater Toronto - those Regional Municipalities that TOUCH the city itself - and the Much Greater - those Regional Municipalities that DO NOT touch the physical City of Toronto. That's a much better way of explaining it IMHO.

[twotterdhc6]

Nah ... You got Toronto, Greater Toronto - those Regional Municipalities that TOUCH the city itself - and the Much Greater - those Regional Municipalities that DO NOT touch the physical City of Toronto. That's a much better way of explaining it IMHO.
Meh. This might all make sense, but it lacks creativity!. We need some cool moniker, like "Chicagoland".

No one up here ever says they live in "Malton". or "North Sauga"...as a joke "up here" is now referred to as "HEARTLAND CENTER"

I can understand Port Credit or Streetsville.

I'm surprised to here that. I thought Maltoners don't care much about the city, since it's isolated from the rest of Mississauga, and people often feel ignored there, according to the media...

[Akraz]

Meh. This might all make sense, but it lacks creativity!. We need some cool moniker, like "Chicagoland".


I'm surprised to here that. I thought Maltoners don't care much about the city, since it's isolated from the rest of Mississauga, and people often feel ignored there, according to the media...

I love my city very much <3

[xstatik]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1a/Greater_toronto_area_map.svg/643px-Greater_toronto_area_map.svg.png

GTA extends as far as Halton, Peel, York, and Durham.

.

Agreed

Toronto = 416 ONLY
GTA = Toronto (416), York, Durham, Peel, Halton Regions

[xstatik]

There is one thing I've gained from every debate like this. The closer you are to downtown, the smaller your view of the GTA/Toronto is.

I encounter downtown people who argue that Scarborough is not part of Toronto, .

You can just ignore the downtown people :) Many of them are so secluded and ignorant, that they consider anything north of Bloor Street as farmland! (as many don't go north of Bloor) I guess you can't blame them, all the pollution and garbage in the subways have affected their sense of geography! :) :evil:

[rems]

If you have to dial "1" before calling another city from Toronto, then that`s not the GTA...

[Qbit]

Wow... how does a thread like this get to six pages? It's pretty open and shut, not much room for debate, or is it that people are crazy? lol

[Majinvegeta]

you guys got it aaaaaaaaallll wrong!!

THIS IS THE GTA!!

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j186/Jonnnzbucket/GTA4MapStuntJumps.png

[oasis100]

to me the gta includes:

North york
downtown
markham
scarborough
etobicoke

it does not include:

Mississauga
brampton
pickering
newmarket

the reason for this thread is simple. I was shopping for something in the bst, a fellow member said he was in the gta. I asked where specifically and he said brampton. Had he told me right from the get-go that he was in brampton i wouldn't have had my hopes up.

Under location, we should all be forced to put the first three letters/numbers of our postal codes.

Maybe this should be under suggestions, but i would rather get more responses from the off-topic.

you are dumb.

[trixstar]

so markham is part of the Greater TORONTO Area?

If so why do we still get free bags? :lol:

a lot of stores here in markham have been counterfeiting the sign where it says you have to pay for bags... the signs are like crappy photocopies of the real deal

[trixstar]

You can just ignore the downtown people :) Many of them are so secluded and ignorant, that they consider anything north of Bloor Street as farmland! (as many don't go north of Bloor) I guess you can't blame them, all the pollution and garbage in the subways have affected their sense of geography! :) :evil:

you can also blame those living in most of the gta to be horrible drivers

[fashionelle1]

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/1887/gtabf.jpg

I almost want to identify GTA as- anywhere within the 50min of driving from downtown core at speed limit/no traffic jam.

In all honesty, i agree with nuberific posted pic.

[Broseph]

If you have to dial "1" before calling another city from Toronto, then that`s not the GTA...
I agree with this post. If you have to dial 1 then it means you are too far to be considered in the GTA.

[Tijuana]

I agree with this post. If you have to dial 1 then it means you are too far to be considered in the GTA.

Is calling oakville not long distance?

[Broseph]

Is calling oakville not long distance?
quite possibly thus not GTA

[rems]

Is calling oakville not long distance?

it`s not LD from the city of Toronto to Oakville...

[froesesp]

I think of grand theft auto when I see gta.

[twotterdhc6]

I think of grand theft auto when I see gta.

That's because you're not from the Greater Centre-of-the-Universe Area ;)

It's like when you ask people around the world who is first person that comes to mind when mentioning "Elvis".
In Canada, a lot of people will say Stojko! :lol:

[windforcexx28]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1a/Greater_toronto_area_map.svg/643px-Greater_toronto_area_map.svg.png

Wikipedia is never wrong. GTA extends as far as Halton, Peel, York, and Durham.

Although in my personal usage, I don't include Halton and Durham.

This map describes way too many places.. the GTA definitely does not take into account for so many places...

[45ED]

This map describes way too many places.. the GTA definitely does not take into account for so many places...

Yes it does.

[Ryukishen]

My definition of GTA doesn't quite matter. The GTA could be all of Ontario for all I care, as I have limited transportation (The Toronto Transit Commision, that works in... um... Toronto!) so I probably won't even be able to hit most of the GTA anyways. I tend to deal with people that are in Toronto, and the OP probably should too in the future.

[Proglitch]

Let GTA be a closed set in the domain Ontario. Let Halton, York, Durham and Peel be the boundary points of the set of GTA and let Toronto be the interior points of the set GTA. If the set GTA is a closed set, then it includes it's boundary points. GTA is defined as a closed set therefore it includes it's boundary points.

[ItechJester]

I'd say that map is pretty good.

what I can't stand is when you're on vacation and people say they from Toronto when they're really from Aurora, or Kingston. That's not even the GTA :evil:

[Akraz]

I'd say that map is pretty good.

what I can't stand is when you're on vacation and people say they from Toronto when they're really from Aurora, or Kingston. That's not even the GTA :evil:

If you go to, let's say.. London (England), do you go there and say youre from Burlington? No, you say youre from Toronto. At least they know where Toronto is. I know when Im out of the country I say I live in Toronto when really I'm from Mississauga.


... the sad part is sometimes they don't even know where Toronto is :confused:

[mr_toast]

The GTA is defined by the Government's definition of Toronto's Census Metropolitan Area. Currently, it includes the majority of the map posted a while back, plus a few smaller areas, less Brampton, I think.

[at1212b]

Lest to say, it all revolves around Toronto.