Elect Shaw Pace HD reciever (PVR capable with external HDD) $223.00 [Archive]

Homer Jay Simpson

Nov 7th, 2009, 03:20 PM

Warm price. No HDD, but just built yourself one for way cheaper than the Shaw Expander.

BB $229.98: http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0926INGFS10129271&catid=28559

FS $299.99: http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0665000FS10129271&catid=24994&test_cookie=1

PM ~$223.00
Just picked one up for my dad this morning.

adblink182

Nov 7th, 2009, 03:52 PM

so isn't the title inaccurate? seeing as its just a receiver and the PVR portion is separate?

kingpin748

Nov 7th, 2009, 04:03 PM

It is a PVR, you just need to add a hard drive.

Thanks for the post. Going to try to get price protection since I bought it last month.

Gnome187

Nov 7th, 2009, 04:03 PM

i have the pace aspen which i believe is the same as this one without the hard drive. can anyone verify this?

also, could i add a hard drive to this unit internally. in other words, could i open up the unit without voiding the warranty?

bobbyk1133

Nov 7th, 2009, 04:25 PM

I successfully got price protection on this from BB. For those that bought it online, remember the 30 days of price protection starts from the day the unit arrives, not the date of order/shipping.

Overall great price and if you call Shaw now, they are offering the 1TB Expander HD for 150.

adblink182

Nov 7th, 2009, 05:15 PM

It is a PVR, you just need to add a hard drive.

Thanks for the post. Going to try to get price protection since I bought it last month.

how so? even in BB's title (Shaw Pace HD Receiver (DC758D)) it just says receiver. As it stands theres no way out of the box that thing can be a PVR, its just a receiver with upgrade option to a PVR.

whatever im not here to nit pick i was just stating a fact that the title is inaccurate, no one is going to buy it based off a thread topic anyway.

jackboot

Nov 7th, 2009, 05:21 PM

Warm price. No HDD, but just built yourself one for way cheaper than the Shaw Expander.

Thanks for the post OP! Just bought this a few weeks ago at FS. Will PM now.

Is it really just as easy as adding a HDD yourself in any SATA enclosure? Or do only certain enclosures work? Will any HDD size will work?

SCEvan

Nov 7th, 2009, 05:24 PM

I'm wondering if one of those would work for me, my cable and internet provider were recently acquired by Shaw, I guess the only way to know for sure would be to call them. :|

http://www.mountaincable.net/ Thats my provider.

Bishop8

Nov 7th, 2009, 05:26 PM

Yes, it's literally as easy as plugging in an external HD. Be wary, though, that some enclosures (typically those with USB and/or Firewire ports) are YMMV. I've used a Vantec Nexstar3 enclosure with WD Green 1TB drive on my Moto 6412 and it's been stellar.

On a related note, I'm getting a second one and am deciding between the 3416, which will be more expensive, and this Pace. I've had good reliability from the Motos, but I've heard some iffy things about the Pace. Anyone with experience on both care to share their opinions? Is it worth saving the ~$75, or do I just stick to what I know? I'm probably going to be adding the 1TB drive regardless, so that part of the equation will stay the same.

bubba g

Nov 7th, 2009, 05:32 PM

SCEvan

Nov 7th, 2009, 05:32 PM

On a related note, I'm getting a second one and am deciding between the 3416, which will be more expensive, and this Pace. I've had good reliability from the Motos, but I've heard some iffy things about the Pace. Anyone with experience on both care to share their opinions? Is it worth saving the ~$75, or do I just stick to what I know? I'm probably going to be adding the 1TB drive regardless, so that part of the equation will stay the same.

I have a pace (not the same model as the shaw ones) and its a piece of CRAP, I had to exchange the first one I got as it constantly made a loud chirping/squeaking nouse, the thing is so damn loud and the response time is very slow, if I had the option I definatley would have gone with motorola as it has been flawless for my brother who has cogeco.

Kamloops

Nov 7th, 2009, 05:48 PM

With the new firmware now you can put an external or even open the box out and replace the drive with a 1tb internal, you have to format it externally first

Darklighter

Nov 7th, 2009, 05:49 PM

I didn't realize its possible to add an external HD to the Motos. I just bought the Pace, but if the Motos work too, I might as well keep the old one.

+1 on this. I've got a 6416. I wonder if it's possible to add an external HD for extra storage.

Homer Jay Simpson

Nov 7th, 2009, 06:29 PM

I didn't realize its possible to add an external HD to the Motos. I just bought the Pace, but if the Motos work too, I might as well keep the old one.

Yep, Shaw just added the support for external HDD last month.
You can follow the thread here: http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=112018

eSATA HDD's only. Try and get an enclosure without firewire. Apparently the Vantec Nextar 3's work well, but get pretty hot. The Antec MX-1 actively cooled enclosures also seem to work according to the thread, as well as the Thermaltake BlackX docking station.

Homer Jay Simpson

Nov 7th, 2009, 06:31 PM

whatever im not here to nit pick i was just stating a fact that the title is inaccurate, no one is going to buy it based off a thread topic anyway.

Changed the thread title as to not piss anyone off.

gyozaman

Nov 7th, 2009, 07:00 PM

Shaw upgraded the firmware automatically through the cable line for the Motorola 6416 and 3416 so that they can add an external hard drive by plugging it into to the ESATA port.

For those who have the Motorola DCT 6200, you can not add the external hard drive to it.

The new Pace does not have a hard drive. But you can combine it with the Shaw external PVR hard drive (re-badged Western Digital My Book with 3 year warranty). $229 for Pace + $149 for External 1 TB hard drive = $379.

Almost no point buying the Moto DCT 3416 or 6416 even though Futureshop is blowing them out at $399....only 160 GB.

Bishop8

Nov 7th, 2009, 09:00 PM

I agree if it was price only I'd buy the Pace 758 and put together my own external HD, but I don't know enough about these Pace machines. I've heard marginal/crappy things about the older models, but wasn't sure if they've made significant strides on QC since. With Motos, they're generally rock-solid (at least the ones I've had). Trying to see if the price differential is justified.

Decile

Nov 7th, 2009, 09:59 PM

Yep, Shaw just added the support for external HDD last month.
You can follow the thread here: http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=112018

eSATA HDD's only. Try and get an enclosure without firewire. Apparently the Vantec Nextar 3's work well, but get pretty hot. The Antec MX-1 actively cooled enclosures also seem to work according to the thread, as well as the Thermaltake BlackX docking station.

Picked one up today and can confirm that the Antec MX-1 works for external expansion (running an old WD 250GB HDD).

LonesomeDove

Nov 7th, 2009, 10:16 PM

fireweed

Nov 7th, 2009, 10:23 PM

Anybody have a sense of the minimum size of HDD needed to get a decent amount of PVR recording time out of one of these things?

SLee

Nov 7th, 2009, 10:34 PM

Anybody have a sense of the minimum size of HDD needed to get a decent amount of PVR recording time out of one of these things?
HD channels on Shaw range from about 6GB to 9GB an hour and SD channels are about 1.5GB.

LonesomeDove

Nov 7th, 2009, 10:43 PM

BTW, this could be a pricing error because it is $249.99 in the weekly flyer.

SLee

Nov 7th, 2009, 10:50 PM

BTW, this could be a pricing error because it is $249.99 in the weekly flyer.
I was at a BB store today and it was $229.98. Also if you check the FS flyer, at least for Calgary, they're selling the Pace receiver for $229.99 and the 1TB drive for $149.99.

Decile

Nov 7th, 2009, 11:17 PM

Is this HD receiver the same one sold by Shaw on their site?

http://www.shaw.ca/en-ca/ProductsServices/Television/HDTV/HDTV-Hardware.htm

It looks like the same thing. Although the Shaw does not mention the model or brand. If it is the same one, then its a good deal. Must as well save $70 if it is the same thing.

Yep, this is the same one. When I was activating it this afternoon the Shaw tech seemed to think $230 was a "pretty good" deal. For what that's worth :lol:

deviouSx3

Nov 8th, 2009, 12:27 AM

this probably won't work with rogers cable right?

I have a promo hd digital box, and it'll end in december.. so I'm thinking of buying my own digital box.

adblink182

Nov 8th, 2009, 12:42 AM

so now that mountain cable is Shaw (which Im pretty pissed about), would this work on that d.cable?

volan

Nov 8th, 2009, 12:48 AM

Does anyone know what format shows are recorded in? I'm wondering if I can record on the PVR then move the hard drive to my WDTV for playback on another TV.

MikeMurphy

Nov 8th, 2009, 01:13 AM

Has anyone opened one of these boxes up?

I'm wondering if there is a space for the HDD internally.

Darklighter

Nov 8th, 2009, 01:24 AM

I called Shaw earlier today to activate external HD support on my Moto 6416. Other than the long wait to talk to someone it was painless.

I used some parts I wasn't using anymore to get the external HD. 250GB WD drive + Nexstar esata/USB HD case.

starscreamX

Nov 8th, 2009, 02:51 AM

Can you plug in a non-Shaw external USB hard drive enclosure to this PACE receiver?

Or do I have to buy a eSATA external hard drive enclosure?

Homer Jay Simpson

Nov 8th, 2009, 02:53 AM

this probably won't work with rogers cable right?

I have a promo hd digital box, and it'll end in december.. so I'm thinking of buying my own digital box.

I just might work. I have an old 6200HD which I purchased for 100 bucks from FS 3 or 4 years ago. It was Rogers branded and supposed to be only sold in east, but I took a chance. That was also when Shaw added outside boxes without much issue.

atong

Nov 8th, 2009, 02:58 AM

Can you plug in a non-Shaw external USB hard drive enclosure to this PACE receiver?

Or do I have to buy a eSATA external hard drive enclosure?

No USB won't work, it has to be eSATA

Homer Jay Simpson

Nov 8th, 2009, 03:00 AM

Can you plug in a non-Shaw external USB hard drive enclosure to this PACE receiver?

Or do I have to buy a eSATA external hard drive enclosure?

eSATA only. Either Shaw or non-Shaw. See the link my other post above.

Oops, too slow ^^

Homer Jay Simpson

Nov 8th, 2009, 03:19 AM

Does anyone know what format shows are recorded in? I'm wondering if I can record on the PVR then move the hard drive to my WDTV for playback on another TV.

Just had a quick look here: http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=112018

"The index for the recordings is on the internal drive, so you cannot move the eHDD without "losing" access to your recordings on that (external) drive. If you format/use the (external) drive elsewhere, then your (external drive) recordings will likely be gone."

It looks like you won't be able to do this.

Infamous1

Nov 8th, 2009, 12:53 PM

Thanks OP!

I will try it with my own E-sata enclosure and see how it works.

volan

Nov 8th, 2009, 03:18 PM

Just had a quick look here: http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=112018

"The index for the recordings is on the internal drive, so you cannot move the eHDD without "losing" access to your recordings on that (external) drive. If you format/use the (external) drive elsewhere, then your (external drive) recordings will likely be gone."

It looks like you won't be able to do this.That's unfortunate. I was thinking that I could get two of these boxes and transfer the HDD between them as needed (record on one and watch on another). I guess that's not possible. Looks like Bell is still the only provider who allows that.

brucered

Nov 8th, 2009, 03:24 PM

so who is selling the Expanders for $150? directly thru SHAW?

atong

Nov 8th, 2009, 05:33 PM

I believe its on sale for the holiday's through Shaw for $150 until January 15th. It's also on sale at Futureshop until Nov 12th. It's advertised on the flyer but not online. You can also get it at London Drugs for $150, until Nov 20th.

Kritiker

Nov 8th, 2009, 06:31 PM

FWIW, a salesperson at Futureshop (Winnipeg) told me this afternoon that the Pace Summit (DC758D) will be on sale for $229.99 and the Shaw 1TB Expander (by Western Digital) will be on sale for $149.99 both until sometime in January. A Shaw person also indicated that Shaw was currently selling the Expander for $150. Is this just in Winnipeg and Vancouver or elsewhere too?

spookie149

Nov 8th, 2009, 08:53 PM

I can confirm Shaw is selling them for $150 here in Calgary.

StoneColdWhat

Nov 8th, 2009, 11:25 PM

Isn't the expander just a regular external hdd ?

brucered

Nov 8th, 2009, 11:48 PM

Isn't the expander just a regular external hdd ?

WD 1TB eSata from what i understand.

vistokid

Nov 9th, 2009, 10:05 AM

Seems like the Best Buy price is back to $249.

LonesomeDove

Nov 9th, 2009, 03:12 PM

Seems like the Best Buy price is back to $249.

Because the sale $229.99 price ended Nov. 8.

ADBAWG

Nov 9th, 2009, 03:58 PM

Futureshop is still selling the Pace unit for $229.99 as show in the West flyer from Nov 6 to 12. I know online the FS website says $299.99; however, in-store you'll see signs for $229.99

Saadsack

Nov 9th, 2009, 05:09 PM

so who is selling the Expanders for $150? directly thru SHAW?

Pricematch the expander at FS/BB from the London Drugs link below:

http://www.londondrugs.com/Cultures/en-US/Product+Detail/Electronics.htm?BreadCrumbs=Electronics;Electronic s;Satellite;Satellite%20Systems;Shaw%20PVR%20Expan der%20-%20Black%20-%20PVREXPANDE&Catalog=Electronics&Category=Satellite%20Systems&ProductID=3887742&ProductTab=3

Not bad of a deal for $379 ($229 and $149.99), you get a PVR Slim with 1 TB drive.

I was at BB (Cambie + 7th) and they still had signs in store for $229 also. LD on Cambie and Broadway did not have either of these two items. The sales guy had no clue what he was talking about either--stated that you cannot get this PVR anyway right now and that you would get only one tuner...

Homer Jay Simpson

Nov 9th, 2009, 11:49 PM

jackboot

Nov 10th, 2009, 12:03 AM

Not really a hot deal, but if you don't need 1TB, you could order the 500GB version for $109.99 here: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136259
Haven't checked out what the shipping is, but I figure you'de still save 20 - 30 bucks.

And you could always save too by DIY'ing ;)

Not a bad option if you don't need lots of storage space...

The same 500GB drive is only $79.99 USD at Amazon.com with free shipping to a USA address, if you can swing it.

newfbc

Nov 10th, 2009, 12:09 AM

Not really a hot deal, but if you don't need 1TB, you could order the 500GB version for $109.99 here: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136259
Haven't checked out what the shipping is, but I figure you'de still save 20 - 30 bucks.

And you could always save too by DIY'ing ;)

$121 with shipping added.. for $28 I get double the space, 3x the warranty and support from Shaw if needed.

How is this a better deal?

Ron.

newfbc

Nov 10th, 2009, 12:10 AM

Not really a hot deal, but if you don't need 1TB, you could order the 500GB version for $109.99 here: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136259
Haven't checked out what the shipping is, but I figure you'de still save 20 - 30 bucks.

And you could always save too by DIY'ing ;)

$121 with shipping added.. for $28 more you get double the space, 3x the warranty and support from Shaw if needed.

How is this a better deal?

Ron.

Homer Jay Simpson

Nov 10th, 2009, 11:08 AM

$121 with shipping added.. for $28 more you get double the space, 3x the warranty and support from Shaw if needed.

How is this a better deal?

Ron.

As clearly stated in my post, "not a hot deal", but for those of you who don't need that much space, like maybe someone looking at this thread with a Moto box and internal HDD.
As I said in my post too, I prefer DIY. But 150 bucks is a pretty good deal :)

brucered

Nov 10th, 2009, 12:06 PM

$121 with shipping added.. for $28 more you get double the space, 3x the warranty and support from Shaw if needed.

How is this a better deal?

Ron.

i think we'll have shaw come look at our standard PVR, it's very very noise right now, the fan is always super loud, even when it's off. perhaps i'll have them bring an expander for $150 at the same time for our Moto HDPVR. would be nice to have that extra space and for 1TB external with 3y warranty, it seems like a good deal.

way2quik

Nov 10th, 2009, 12:59 PM

A question to those who bought the PVR- By calling Shaw and assuming you get a promo from them, you'd be paying half of $229. What makes this a hot deal? I may jump on this if this is a hot deal.

brucered

Nov 10th, 2009, 01:35 PM

A question to those who bought the PVR- By calling Shaw and assuming you get a promo from them, you'd be paying half of $229. What makes this a hot deal? I may jump on this if this is a hot deal.

the 1/2 off was usually for the MOTOROLA PVR, i can't see them offering anyone a deal on the new PACE stuff, it's brand new. most deals like the 1/2 off, or free lease or free outright were REFURBS, still with full warranty, but not new and not new releases.

also, some people are not getting any deals when they phone and ask, so any sale of shaw stuff is decent for them.

Bishop8

Nov 10th, 2009, 02:23 PM

the 1/2 off was usually for the MOTOROLA PVR, i can't see them offering anyone a deal on the new PACE stuff, it's brand new. most deals like the 1/2 off, or free lease or free outright were REFURBS, still with full warranty, but not new and not new releases.

also, some people are not getting any deals when they phone and ask, so any sale of shaw stuff is decent for them.

Slight correction, the refurbs did NOT have a full warranty -- one year (vs 3yrs for new). That's the reason I actually returned my free 6416 rental. At a $350 buyout for a refurb, I could get a new one for $399, probably a bit less if FS/BB have some additional coupons in the next little bit. Just hurt to lose all my recordings, though. >:(

walleye*guy

Nov 10th, 2009, 02:49 PM

Just returned from Best Buy where I PM'd London Drugs and got the expander for $144.99 + tax.

so - Pace was $223 + expander for $145 = $369 + tax

not bad for a 1tb pvr........

not bad at all.........

IMHO

Homer Jay Simpson

Nov 10th, 2009, 05:08 PM

midnightly

Nov 10th, 2009, 05:25 PM

i've been looking at getting a external hard drive for my pace box for awhile now and i think this might have sold me..

jimbojones

Nov 10th, 2009, 05:51 PM

So I have basic digital cable, does anyone know which HD channels I would get it I picked up this box?

SLee

Nov 10th, 2009, 06:37 PM

So I have basic digital cable, does anyone know which HD channels I would get it I picked up this box?
You should get an eastern and western time zone channel for each of ABC, CBS, NBC and Fox, PBS, CBC and the Frame for free with a HD box. If you have Global and/or CTV broadcasting digitally OTA in your area, you'll also get those stations.

yogilo

Nov 10th, 2009, 10:58 PM

BB's site is now posting it as $249.99. Sales ends 1/15/2010.

:evil:

Homer Jay Simpson

Nov 10th, 2009, 11:07 PM

BB's site is now posting it as $249.99. Sales ends 1/15/2010.

:evil:

Just had a look at the FS flyer (west). It looks like you can still get it there for $230 until Nov 12. Doesn't look like their website reflects the price though.

Homer Jay Simpson

Nov 10th, 2009, 11:11 PM

Here is the link to their online flyer:
http://www.futureshop.ca/marketing/weekly_flyer/en/default.asp?logon=&langid=EN
Go to page 7
Top right hand side

Edit oops link not good. Here's creen dump of flyer:
http://i859.photobucket.com/albums/ab159/member604/Untitled-1.gif?t=1257913064