U.S. Black Friday Ads

[RFDPants]

Some ads for the 2009 Black Friday (day after US Thanksgiving) shopping frenzy are posted in various sites:

http://www.2009blackfridayads.com/

http://bfads.net/

http://www.black-friday.net/

Could be some spill-over into Canadian stores & online retailers...or just drive across the border for those able to.

[XxXSnake23XxX]

Some ads for the 2009 Black Friday (day after US Thanksgiving) shopping frenzy are posted in various sites:

http://www.2009blackfridayads.com/

http://bfads.net/

http://www.black-friday.net/

Could be some spill-over into Canadian stores & online retailers...or just drive across the border for those able to.

highly doubt that they will spill over.. thats why we have boxing day

[dtrader69]

that walmart tc-p46u1 is smoking!

[vsaint]

Amazon.com is matching deals from walmart.
Anyone know on average what how much Shipping, Duties or any other fees are?

[xGambitx]

so none of these deals are valid in the Canadian stores?

[LonesomeDove]

How come there is such a price differential between Canada and the US in regards to electronics when the dollar is near par?

I see Walmart is selling a 40" 1080p TV for $500 when it goes for $800+ in Canada.

[spinbot]

How come there is such a price differential between Canada and the US in regards to electronics when the dollar is near par?

I see Walmart is selling a 40" 1080p TV for $500 when it goes for $800+ in Canada.

How come a seat in a theatre that fits either 1 adult or 1 child has different prices?

Why: Because they can charge it and the consumer will pay it.

When whole prices to each country are determined by the manufacturer and rules prevent sale across the border ( ie. technically a Toshiba USA retailer cannot sell/ship directly to a Canadian ), they control market prices.

Other factors - Walmart USA has greater purchasing power than Walmart Canada ( assuming they have separate purchasing departments )

Canadian Taxes (not the up front ones, but other hidden one's for environmental fee's, CSA approval fee's, different licensing fees )


Dollar for Dollar, people will typically be ok with paying more to get their item in Canada over the U.S. because of the hassle to drive to get it ( or have it shipped ) and the risk of losing warranty. You may roll the dice with smaller items , but if you are spending a $1000+ on TV, you probably value the warranty a fair amount.

But....in the end... it does annoy many people that basic cost to build a TV in China and ship to Canada or US is the same, yet we always pay "more".

[kamran]

And don't forget that you have to line up at 3am in the morning for the sale to begin at walmart at 5am, and also risk getting killed by the mad rush to the best sale items.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/regional/worker_killed_in_wal_mart_stampede_stv8Nzjd0Pzla9R uQzyduI

How come a seat in a theatre that fits either 1 adult or 1 child has different prices?

Why: Because they can charge it and the consumer will pay it.

When whole prices to each country are determined by the manufacturer and rules prevent sale across the border ( ie. technically a Toshiba USA retailer cannot sell/ship directly to a Canadian ), they control market prices.

Other factors - Walmart USA has greater purchasing power than Walmart Canada ( assuming they have separate purchasing departments )

Canadian Taxes (not the up front ones, but other hidden one's for environmental fee's, CSA approval fee's, different licensing fees )


Dollar for Dollar, people will typically be ok with paying more to get their item in Canada over the U.S. because of the hassle to drive to get it ( or have it shipped ) and the risk of losing warranty. You may roll the dice with smaller items , but if you are spending a $1000+ on TV, you probably value the warranty a fair amount.

But....in the end... it does annoy many people that basic cost to build a TV in China and ship to Canada or US is the same, yet we always pay "more".

[roy]

And you can't expect retail prices to track the market like the dollar does. There will always be some lag.

How come a seat in a theatre that fits either 1 adult or 1 child has different prices?

Why: Because they can charge it and the consumer will pay it.

When whole prices to each country are determined by the manufacturer and rules prevent sale across the border ( ie. technically a Toshiba USA retailer cannot sell/ship directly to a Canadian ), they control market prices.

Other factors - Walmart USA has greater purchasing power than Walmart Canada ( assuming they have separate purchasing departments )

Canadian Taxes (not the up front ones, but other hidden one's for environmental fee's, CSA approval fee's, different licensing fees )


Dollar for Dollar, people will typically be ok with paying more to get their item in Canada over the U.S. because of the hassle to drive to get it ( or have it shipped ) and the risk of losing warranty. You may roll the dice with smaller items , but if you are spending a $1000+ on TV, you probably value the warranty a fair amount.

But....in the end... it does annoy many people that basic cost to build a TV in China and ship to Canada or US is the same, yet we always pay "more".

[bionicsamm]

Even some lag in the dollar doesn't account for 60% difference mentioned earlier, the dollar has never been that bad in my lifetime :p

[superdeals]

For electronics and computer, shopping south the border will give you best bang for buck. Everything depends on your desire, means etc.

[shepd]

And don't forget that you have to line up at 3am in the morning for the sale to begin at walmart at 5am, and also risk getting killed by the mad rush to the best sale items.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/regional/worker_killed_in_wal_mart_stampede_stv8Nzjd0Pzla9R uQzyduI

If you've done the line-up thing in Canada, it isn't that much different, at least at Best Buy Kitchener (The chance of winning a $500 gift card really does bring out the crowds!). There's line jumpers, people bustin' to get in the doors, and as an added bonus for Canadians: I'm surprised nobody has died of hypothermia or at least lost limbs from frostbite. I know when I camp out all night I can barely feel any extremities!

[roy]

Even some lag in the dollar doesn't account for 60% difference mentioned earlier, the dollar has never been that bad in my lifetime :p
That kind of price difference may occur, but it is not common.

[RedFlagRobot]

How come there is such a price differential between Canada and the US in regards to electronics when the dollar is near par?

I see Walmart is selling a 40" 1080p TV for $500 when it goes for $800+ in Canada.

I don't think looking at Black Friday prices is really a good barometer

[RideGuy]

How come a seat in a theatre that fits either 1 adult or 1 child has different prices?

Why: Because they can charge it and the consumer will pay it.

When whole prices to each country are determined by the manufacturer and rules prevent sale across the border ( ie. technically a Toshiba USA retailer cannot sell/ship directly to a Canadian ), they control market prices.

Other factors - Walmart USA has greater purchasing power than Walmart Canada ( assuming they have separate purchasing departments )

Canadian Taxes (not the up front ones, but other hidden one's for environmental fee's, CSA approval fee's, different licensing fees )


Dollar for Dollar, people will typically be ok with paying more to get their item in Canada over the U.S. because of the hassle to drive to get it ( or have it shipped ) and the risk of losing warranty. You may roll the dice with smaller items , but if you are spending a $1000+ on TV, you probably value the warranty a fair amount.

But....in the end... it does annoy many people that basic cost to build a TV in China and ship to Canada or US is the same, yet we always pay "more".
One more factor to add is that some items go threw a US agent on their way here which adds another piece to the pie.

[radical53]

thanks OP!

[LonesomeDove]

I don't think looking at Black Friday prices is really a good barometer

Maybe a better comparison is Boxing Day which the US don't have?

[tentpole]

i received the black friday newsletter of Walmart this morning

that's really "tons of great deals" (5 pages)

strongly recommend here:

http://www.2009blackfridayads.com/walmart/walmart-black-friday-adscan-01.php?utm_source=AWeber_blackfridayad&utm_medium=email&utm_content=BC111809b&utm_campaign=BF09

[leafs4_cup]

Walmart has some good prices on higher-end items, but I am a little disappointed with their overall selection this year.

That won't stop me from buying about 50 dvds though.

[help_questions]

And don't forget that you have to line up at 3am in the morning for the sale to begin at walmart at 5am, and also risk getting killed by the mad rush to the best sale items.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/regional/worker_killed_in_wal_mart_stampede_stv8Nzjd0Pzla9R uQzyduI

it isn't that bad....quite similar to the early line on boxing day


Even some lag in the dollar doesn't account for 60% difference mentioned earlier, the dollar has never been that bad in my lifetime :p

we are really getting gouged in Canada. It is always better to shop in the states, and the high CDN dollar is icing on the cake.

For electronics and computer, shopping south the border will give you best bang for buck. Everything depends on your desire, means etc.

Exactly. Forget Black Friday...in general, it is usually better to buy in the USA. We get more for less, and have more stores to compare prices.

Furthermore, Black Friday means almost everything is on sale, and the high dollar means even more savings....

[golfer29]

i received the black friday newsletter of Walmart this morning

that's really "tons of great deals" (5 pages)

strongly recommend here:

http://www.2009blackfridayads.com/walmart/walmart-black-friday-adscan-01.php?utm_source=AWeber_blackfridayad&utm_medium=email&utm_content=BC111809b&utm_campaign=BF09

The full ad can be found here
http://downloads.bfads.net/BFAds-Walmart-2009.PDF

[angekfire]

If you've done the line-up thing in Canada, it isn't that much different, at least at Best Buy Kitchener (The chance of winning a $500 gift card really does bring out the crowds!). There's line jumpers, people bustin' to get in the doors, and as an added bonus for Canadians: I'm surprised nobody has died of hypothermia or at least lost limbs from frostbite. I know when I camp out all night I can barely feel any extremities!

That's such a huge scam. I was there for that giftcard 2 years ago and they said anyone in line before a certain time would get the chance to win. They stopped at literally, the guy in front of me when I had been there since 30 minutes before they said you needed to be there to qualify because they ran out of tickets. So much BS.

[pkguy]

The price difference on most stuff isn't all that different. Here in Sarnia we get the Michigan Best Buy flyer in our newspaper and I often run over the bridge and poke around the stores and most of the time it's not worth buying an item over there anymore the prices are that close. Yes occasionally you'll see something that looks like a fantastic deal but you get those over here as well.

The days of huge price differences are pretty much over. all you get over there is a better selection and more models in a lineup.

[hungryfordeals]

And don't forget that you have to line up at 3am in the morning for the sale to begin at walmart at 5am, and also risk getting killed by the mad rush to the best sale items.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/regional/worker_killed_in_wal_mart_stampede_stv8Nzjd0Pzla9R uQzyduI

I see just as bad lineups for discount bakery items at RCSS when it opens for the day, and that's just the old people on the scooters. Seriously, it can and will happen everywhere. But I know, Us Canadians can't go a minute without bashing Americans, can we?

[CSK'sMom]

This year will be *very* different than past years at Walmart. All stores will be open 24 hrs to avoid the crush at the doors at opening. Next the pallets of doorcrashers will be spread throughout the store. Those pallets will each be attended by staff and security. At each pallet there will be a controlled line, complete with winding barriers. As people line up they will be given tickets to the items to avoid the chaos and mayhem.

Next week sometime you'll be able to go on Walmarts website, input the zip code and print the map of pallets for doorcrashers for the store you're going to...

[thegradas]

How come a seat in a theatre that fits either 1 adult or 1 child has different prices?

Why: Because they can charge it and the consumer will pay it.

When whole prices to each country are determined by the manufacturer and rules prevent sale across the border ( ie. technically a Toshiba USA retailer cannot sell/ship directly to a Canadian ), they control market prices.

Other factors - Walmart USA has greater purchasing power than Walmart Canada ( assuming they have separate purchasing departments )

Canadian Taxes (not the up front ones, but other hidden one's for environmental fee's, CSA approval fee's, different licensing fees )

Dollar for Dollar, people will typically be ok with paying more to get their item in Canada over the U.S. because of the hassle to drive to get it ( or have it shipped ) and the risk of losing warranty. You may roll the dice with smaller items , but if you are spending a $1000+ on TV, you probably value the warranty a fair amount.

But....in the end... it does annoy many people that basic cost to build a TV in China and ship to Canada or US is the same, yet we always pay "more".

Mack extended warranties are valid in Canada too.

[opuscat]

I'm sure this has been asked a zillion times but you would only pay the taxes on electronics bringing it back in from the U.S? I didn't think there was any duty on electronics anymore? Looking at TV's, the price difference on the exact same models is $500-$1000 after exchange on the base prices, absolutely criminal.

[chadjustine]

I'm sure this has been asked a zillion times but you would only pay the taxes on electronics bringing it back in from the U.S? I didn't think there was any duty on electronics anymore? Looking at TV's, the price difference on the exact same models is $500-$1000 after exchange on the base prices, absolutely criminal.

Yes, you will likely have to pay duty and taxes. But, depending on the item, its well worth it.

My brother in law bought a 58" plasma tv (panasonic, I believe). I dont remember the model but I remember him saying that the cheapest he saw it around here was $3K. He got it off Amazon.com, brought it back, paid the taxes and duty and ended up paying just under $2K.

[CSK'sMom]

I'm sure this has been asked a zillion times but you would only pay the taxes on electronics bringing it back in from the U.S? I didn't think there was any duty on electronics anymore? Looking at TV's, the price difference on the exact same models is $500-$1000 after exchange on the base prices, absolutely criminal.

Duty depends on the country of origin. When in doubt, call your local CBSA office and ask. With that said, most electronics these days come from countries that are favoured nation status or have some kind of trade agreement which results in no duty and just taxes due when bringing back into Canada...

[pkguy]

I was looking thru the American , Home Depot website and they have a 19.7 cu ft LG french door fridge going on sale for $798 USD. At first I thought wow. Calculating and converting money, taxes etc it would cost nearly $1,100. Cdn to purchase it and get it into your house. In todays paper/flyer for Teppermans is a Samsung 18 cu ft french door fridge for $999 Cdn and no GST (neither have ice makers). So why would anyone bother with the hassle of buying the LG in the states unless of course they had to have an LG fridge because nothing else will do. Regardless in a week or two Leons or the Brick could most likely have the same LG fridge for around $999 Cdn as well.

[golfer29]

you are comparing one item and saying that Black Friday is not worth it. This is ridiculous. There are hundreds, if not thousands of items that are cheaper in the US on BF than in Canada

[xGambitx]

WoW these prices are sooo cheap!! Walmart Flyer: 198$ for a brand new laptop!?!? i know its emachines but still, that same notebook will probably cost 399$ here. Executive chair for 35$, that is almost HOT!

I wish they had these kind of prices here in Canada. :(

[thegradas]

I'm sure this has been asked a zillion times but you would only pay the taxes on electronics bringing it back in from the U.S? I didn't think there was any duty on electronics anymore? Looking at TV's, the price difference on the exact same models is $500-$1000 after exchange on the base prices, absolutely criminal.

Our group imported the Pioneer KRP-500M for US$1,499.99. For those who had the tv shipped to a warehouse in the US, they paid the taxes only @ the customs.

I bought a lot of electronics from the US... always declared them at the customs and paid the taxes only.

[CSK'sMom]

I was looking thru the American , Home Depot website and they have a 19.7 cu ft LG french door fridge going on sale for $798 USD. At first I thought wow. Calculating and converting money, taxes etc it would cost nearly $1,100. Cdn to purchase it and get it into your house. In todays paper/flyer for Teppermans is a Samsung 18 cu ft french door fridge for $999 Cdn and no GST (neither have ice makers). So why would anyone bother with the hassle of buying the LG in the states unless of course they had to have an LG fridge because nothing else will do. Regardless in a week or two Leons or the Brick could most likely have the same LG fridge for around $999 Cdn as well.

Apples to apples and oranges to oranges as the saying goes. LG and Samsung are 2 different brands and generally at 2 different price points. Look at the same brand and model for a true comparison.