Adding an extra gas line.

[Maymybonneliveforever]

Does anyone know the approximate cost of running a 1/2" gas line whether it is copper or black iron to a Modine Hot Dawg Garage Heater 45,000 btu which is located 10' high in the corner of a double car garage? Total gas line run would be around 50' and the basement has a drop ceiling which I would remove the tiles from. I don't want the gas line to run outdoor and the garage is attached to the house. There is an ng fireplace on the opposite wall but I'm not sure you are allowed to tap into it. I would want the installer to supply the parts also. At the moment I'm installing the unit and supplying power and locating a b vent therefore I was looking for a budget re gas supply and install.

Thanks.

[BuildingHomes]

Most gas fitters will be able to answer this right over the phone. Their main concern is distance and obstructions.

[coolspot]

Rates are approximately 250.00 for the first 20 feet, 10 - 15.00 per feet afterwards. Add a couple feet for slack.

[Maymybonneliveforever]

I called a couple dealers BuildingHomes and they felt it was too small a job to price out at the moment with all the furnace installs they were doing. They wouldn't even attempt to price over the phone. Having been in the comercial kitchen instalation business years ago I know what's involved but I never got into pricing.

Thanks coolspot, that gave me a great reference which is what I'm looking for. Forgive me if I say ouch though........but I won't. ;) Now I need to price out the b vent.

[coolspot]

Thanks coolspot, that gave me a great reference which is what I'm looking for. Forgive me if I say ouch though........but I won't. ;) Now I need to price out the b vent.

Check your PM, sent you a couple contacts.

[Drthorne]

you'll want 5/8" soft copper or 1/2" black pipe for that distance. I'd budget $400 for everything. Post an ad on Kijiji

[BuildingHomes]

I called a couple dealers BuildingHomes and they felt it was too small a job to price out at the moment with all the furnace installs they were doing. They wouldn't even attempt to price over the phone. Having been in the comercial kitchen instalation business years ago I know what's involved but I never got into pricing.

Wow, things have changed since I had it done then :)

No job is ever too small as long as it is priced accordingly.

[Maymybonneliveforever]

you'll want 5/8" soft copper or 1/2" black pipe for that distance. I'd budget $400 for everything. Post an ad on KijijiPricing for material can be found at places like Home Depot, Rona etc, for black pipe, not sure about soft copper althought the black pipe with shut off and flexable final connect etc. will run about $100.00 or so retail, I didn't think that labour would have been around $400.00 for about a 2-3 hour job. Heck two people installed a whole furnace, a/c, humidifier and stat including removing and disposing of the hold equipment in 18 man hours.

I never thought about Kijiji, but then I may get someone like myself that could do it but am not a gas fitter. Problem is, I don't like to play with natural gas since I have repect for it. even though I've seen it done about 100 times and the soap test can give me some reasurance. Wow, things have changed since I had it done then :)

No job is ever too small as long as it is priced accordingly.You never know, maybe they could tell in my voice that I wasn't willing to pay $400.00 to run one gas line.

[Narci]

Wouldn't you need a permit to run the gas line? If so, then you'd probably need someone who is a licensed gas fitter which is probably why prices are jacked up so high.

[venice_it]

It sounds like a headache to have to run gas pipe through a drop ceiling grid. I doubt many wouldn't be interested in that. Plus you really can't give a definite price in such circumstances without looking at a job in person, and that costs a company time and money.

I would say $400 is around what you will end up paying, otherwise a company just can't stay in business doing these things for less. A lot of guys have a helper with them and they need to pay them, the truck, gas, insurance, advertising etc and they need to budget a half day's work driving to and from your job and doing the work and accounting for anything that may cause some delays.

Perhaps you can save some money by running the copper to and from where it needs to go and have the gas guy do the final connections. Even then, it still might cost a couple hundred just to make it worthwhile for someone to show up.

[Maymybonneliveforever]

Wouldn't you need a permit to run the gas line? If so, then you'd probably need someone who is a licensed gas fitter which is probably why prices are jacked up so high.

And I agree, although I do have a problem paying someone that is licensed over $100.00 per hour not including material. Sorry but that's the way I swing!! After all, that's why I belong to this forum.It sounds like a headache to have to run gas pipe through a drop ceiling grid. I doubt many wouldn't be interested in that. Plus you really can't give a definite price in such circumstances without looking at a job in person, and that costs a company time and money.

Perhaps you can save some money by running the copper to and from where it needs to go and have the gas guy do the final connections. Even then, it still might cost a couple hundred just to make it worthwhile for someone to show up.I would be removing the ceiling tiles before they arrive therefore it would be quite easy actually. As for purchasing the material, running the gas line ahead of time and even drilling the hole into the garage and securing the gas line itself, I'd have no problem doing so unfortunatly that would make it even less interesting for a company to want to take on this project since that would mean less profits for them. My next option is to find a licensed gas fitter to do it on a weekend.

[Drthorne]

you have to be a licensed gas fitter to buy the natural gas copper line, unless you know somebody. I had 30feet of 5/8" copper run for my bbq 7 years ago and the tubing alone was $120. Because I knew the guy he gave me cost pricing and total cost was $175 (parts and labour). It was run in a dropped ceiling and I had all the tiles removed. You can buy the black pipe yourself at Home Depot for a lot less, but the gas fitters labour rate is going to me more because of all the threading and leak testing

[Munchos]

Hi how you doing? Forget that I am a licensed G2 fitter? PM me and I can see what I can do for you.

To let you know the costs my company charges, its $10 a foot plus time. So you would be looking at over $700 + just for the gas line. Copper for gas lines whats that? There are much better products out there. I would just run 1/2 Gas Tite, which is a flexible gas line. MUCH MUCH MUCH better than the alternatives suggested by people here.

Wondering if your heater came with a 3' flexible connector, which, I think, are required for these type of heaters.

[Maymybonneliveforever]

Hi how you doing? Forget that I am a licensed G2 fitter? PM me and I can see what I can do for you.

To let you know the costs my company charges, its $10 a foot plus time. So you would be looking at over $700 + just for the gas line. Copper for gas lines whats that? There are much better products out there. I would just run 1/2 Gas Tite, which is a flexible gas line. MUCH MUCH MUCH better than the alternatives suggested by people here.

Wondering if your heater came with a 3' flexible connector, which, I think, are required for these type of heaters.I thought you still had me on ignore. :lol:

There are actually 4 of us that did a group buy on the garage heaters and one is having the gas and vent installed this weekend for about $400.00 including the b vent and gas lines etc. Based on what your company charges I don't think you could come close to matching that price since I figured that gas hookup would be about $200.00 and exhaust about $200.00 including all materials.

No, the http://www.dormont.com/dmc/uploadedImages/res/wholesale/super_safe-prod_detail.jpg flex or shut off is not included in the materials list.

If you feel that pricing is in line then by all means, I'd rather give the work to a fellow member.

Thanks Munchos.

[Munchos]

I thought you still had me on ignore. :lol:

There are actually 4 of us that did a group buy on the garage heaters and one is having the gas and vent installed this weekend for about $400.00 including the b vent and gas lines etc. Based on what your company charges I don't think you could come close to matching that price since I figured that gas hookup would be about $200.00 and exhaust about $200.00 including all materials.

No, the http://www.dormont.com/dmc/uploadedImages/res/wholesale/super_safe-prod_detail.jpg flex or shut off is not included in the materials list.

If you feel that pricing is in line then by all means, I'd rather give the work to a fellow member.

Thanks Munchos.

Yikes who's doing that install? $400 for materials and labour is way to cheap. I would imagine the person is using company material on the side to do the install or he is pricing the job just to get it. I can't see 50 feet of gas line plus the black iron fittings, b vent, flex connector, shut-off, etc being anywhere near $400. Never mind the labour cost.

But, there are a lot of companies who try to stay in business by being cheap, but soon realize you just can't keep doing that. I know of quite a few geo-thermal companies who are in trouble for doing his exact thing.