walmart: eMachines EL1300-02h Desktop with 20" Widescreen LCD $299.00

[petert]

http://walmart.ca/cms-portal/cmscontroller?size=2&width=500&height=500&command=filetransfer.ServletgetScaledLargeThumbnai lFile&imageid=68060
eMachines EL1300-02hExtra-Small Form Factor Desktop with 20" Widescreen LCD

The eMachine EL1300-02h is a tiny but robust entertainment center. Just a 1/3 of a traditional desktop size, and comes complete with 20" widescreen LCD, it is a powerful performer with room for upgrades:

* AMD Athlon CPU provides blazing processor speed
* With NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE and high-definition audio with 5.1-channel, mean ultra-realistic visuals and audio
* A wealth of ports to complement the machine for great connectivity and expansion
* Supports a wide variety of memory cards via multi-in-1 card reader
* High-speed USB 2.0 ensures fast data transfers
* Cable-less, tangle-free file transfer solution
Designed to provide the best, most efficient and affordable solution, eMachines introduces its all-in-one PC-LCD bundle: EL1300-02h Desktop Computer with 20" widescreen LCD Monitor. Users get a reliable AMD platform running on Windows Vista Home Basic bilingual English-French software. They will also appreciate the ample memory and hard drive, complemented with Gigabit LAN and a suite of expansion capabilities.

* Windows Vista® Home Basic - English/French
* AMD Athlon™ 64 Processor 2650e (512KB L2 cache, 1.6GHz)
* 20" widescreen LCD with built-in speakers
* Packs with 320GB hard drive storage space, 2GB memory and gigabit ethernet LAN
* Interface ports: seven (three front; four rear) USB2.0, multi-in-one card reader, headphone and microphone jacks, RJ-45, five audio, VGA and two PS/2

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For $300 buck with 20" widescreen LCD, this is a real bargain. ( you can't even build 1 for this price)
Just format the OS to Windows 7 or XP this machine is much better than
those Intel Atom.

Here's the Link (walmart.ca/Canada-Electronic.jsp?selection=listingDetails&assetId=49537&imageId=68060&departmentId=201&categoryId=678&tabId=1) if anyone is interested.

[Tornado F2]

I built myself a similar spec system 2 years ago for less (no LCD though - they were still pricey then). It's not bad for the price, but it's not eligible for the free Win 7 update. Add that in and you'll find better deals elsewhere. Like the Acer quad at BB the other week for example.

Edit: Actually my old machine was quite a bit better. 1.6GHz processor? This thing is basically a very bulky netbook. I think that same CPU is in netbooks now.

[Captain Snazzypants]

I built myself a similar spec system 2 years ago for less (no LCD though - they were still pricey then). It's not bad for the price, but it's not eligible for the free Win 7 update. Add that in and you'll find better deals elsewhere. Like the Acer quad at BB the other week for example.

The LCD makes this a tempting offer. The BB offer for $329 (if you get the coupon to work) was hot, and there may be more similar deals with Vista Home Premium systems that do qualify for Win7 upgrades - retailers have to offload those Vista bricks somehow...

[JAC]

Use NTune to OC the CPU to 2Ghz.
http://www.overclock.net/amd-cpus/443912-athlon-64-2650e-overclock.html

[Popular]

good price!

[Tornado F2]

The LCD makes this a tempting offer. The BB offer for $329 (if you get the coupon to work) was hot, and there may be more similar deals with Vista Home Premium systems that do qualify for Win7 upgrades - retailers have to offload those Vista bricks somehow...

It's definitely not unattractive - for the right user, that is. I once paid more than this for a Maxtor HDD that failed right after its 12 month warranty expired. It just shows what a bargain we can get these days. That said, there are even better deals out there, at least for experienced users like I assume most of us to be.

[marksoju]

NOT bad Not bad...

[the_fm]

powerful enough to play TF2 on medium settings?

[k4zz4m]

if i recall correctly, i dont think that computer is even able to run smoothly on low settings lol. TF2 require a really good graphics good to run it smoothly. even on medium ...

having said that. it is tempting. wondering if there are more info on the computer itself. like what can be expanded.

Talking about atom, each serves a different type of audience. so, i would go for atom for the low power consumption though.

[petert]

Here's the Specifications Model: EL1300 (support.gateway.com/emachines/desktop/2009/emachines/el/el1300/EL1300sp2.shtml)

The power consumption is not bad at all. What I like most about this desktop
bundles is the 20" widescreen LCD with built-in speakers :cheesygri

[d_16_85]

really good deal.....cheapest i've seen for a brand new all in one system, even refurbs. dont go for that low

Tigerdirect has the refurbs. model of that lcd going for 109.99+tax

[7jaii]

Thanks OP!

How can anyone complain about this deal? New Retail Box, warranty, perfect for relatives - And 20" LCD included! Come on, buy new or used in BST. It's a good price today (nobody knows about tomorrow).

[DIODIO]

THE attractive thing about this deal is the 20" mon. Say $100-120 for the mon and $180-$200 for the rest aren't bad but DOES NOT HOT either! :lol: Also since this is from WM, may it also be YMMV?

[eltonkk]

I actually liked the look of the machine & the LCD to begin w/...I thought of buying it at the original price of $499 I think...it's the one that's got white LCD and the white mini case right?

So how 'bad' is this machine in preformance. I want to get a seperate machine for my kids so that we don't have to fight for a computer at times.

My kids only play flash games...like treehouse, disney, hotwheels...sometimes they might play FB cafe world, pet society etc......is it good enough for those?

[tyl2ant]

I actually liked the look of the machine & the LCD to begin w/...I thought of buying it at the original price of $499 I think...it's the one that's got white LCD and the white mini case right?

So how 'bad' is this machine in preformance. I want to get a seperate machine for my kids so that we don't have to fight for a computer at times.

My kids only play flash games...like treehouse, disney, hotwheels...sometimes they might play FB cafe world, pet society etc......is it good enough for those?

If this computer is only going to be for those types of games, then yes, it will be good enough to play them.

[Taft]

Crummy computer, but a new PC + LCD for $300 = HOT for a non-gamer

[lolakee]

Selling this for $398 + tx + environmental fee = approx $478. MY Walmart won't sell for $299 = so where do I get it! Can't buy from Walmart online even though they advertise that price.

[chinese zzz]

Selling this for $398 + tx + environmental fee = approx $478. MY Walmart won't sell for $299 = so where do I get it! Can't buy from Walmart online even though they advertise that price.

which walmart is your?:confused:

is the Dufferin mall one? :(
Please not that one...

[Spiderpal93]

I have seen this at $398 at almost every walmart. This could be a clearance item at that particular store. Quite a good looking desktop + monitor combo(I like the white finish).
Wow..have to pay 2 environmental fees for this..$13.44 + 12.03 if you are in Ontario!

[marcXcore]

If I were to switch to Win7, would this PC be any good?
Father in law is running Windows XP on a 6 year old emachine and all he does is check golf scores and get suckered into playing mafia wars on fb.
It's so virus-ridden that I feel dirty everytime I touch it, to be honest with you.

I just don't know how smooth it'll run with Windows 7 on it.
Help?

[lolakee]

Kenora, ON - last town in Ontario - West.
They WON'T HONOUR that price! And we are on the main hyw going west so no excuse for shipping prices!
So phone YOUR Walmart and GET THE PRICE before making your trip to buy!>:(

[wiebecj]

It's definitely not unattractive - for the right user, that is. I once paid more than this for a Maxtor HDD that failed right after its 12 month warranty expired. It just shows what a bargain we can get these days. That said, there are even better deals out there, at least for experienced users like I assume most of us to be.

frick - i paid more for 32MB of RAM...

[Nethervue]

If I were to switch to Win7, would this PC be any good?
Father in law is running Windows XP on a 6 year old emachine and all he does is check golf scores and get suckered into playing mafia wars on fb.
It's so virus-ridden that I feel dirty everytime I touch it, to be honest with you.

I just don't know how smooth it'll run with Windows 7 on it.
Help?

If this comes with Vista, it should run Win 7 fine IMO.

[marcXcore]

I have seen this at $398 at almost every walmart. This could be a clearance item at that particular store. Quite a good looking desktop + monitor combo(I like the white finish).
Wow..have to pay 2 environmental fees for this..$13.44 + 12.03 if you are in Ontario!

Won't they honour the $299 price tag since it's advertised on the Walmart.ca website?

[7jaii]

So how 'bad' is this machine in preformance. I want to get a seperate machine for my kids so that we don't have to fight for a computer at times.

My kids only play flash games...like treehouse, disney, hotwheels...sometimes they might play FB cafe world, pet society etc......is it good enough for those?

A new desktop's appeal is its warranty. On the other hand, since it's for your kids and don't need anything spectacular: buy a USED laptop for $200 or New netbook for $200-$250 in BST. Portable, no tax, balance of warranty, and your kids won't argue with you.

When you have kids, your goal is saving money ;)

[Nethervue]

Pic doesn't show up (for me anyway) in the OP's thread...here is a pic for anyone who can't see it in the 1st post:

http://walmart.ca/cms-portal/cmscontroller?size=2&width=500&height=500&command=filetransfer.ServletgetScaledLargeThumbnai lFile&imageid=68060

[Boardman]

Thanks OP! I called my Walmart here in hicktown and they'll honour the price. Gonna use it as a web surfer for the wifie's business. Can't go wrong at this price for a NIB unit with warranty AND LCD.

[lolakee]

I even contacted Walmart Canada on their website by email yesterday and no call or email reply yet.

[marcXcore]

If this comes with Vista, it should run Win 7 fine IMO.

Awesome! Thanks.

And I called around and sure enough, they won't honour the price unless the store is clearing it out. As it states on the page "This item may not be available or in-stock at all stores. Pricing and selection may vary by store. Visit your local store for current information on pricing and availability."

[Tornado F2]

I have seen this at $398 at almost every walmart. This could be a clearance item at that particular store. Quite a good looking desktop + monitor combo(I like the white finish).
Wow..have to pay 2 environmental fees for this..$13.44 + 12.03 if you are in Ontario!

The netbook alternative is now officially cheaper! :)

[Tornado F2]

Pic doesn't show up (for me anyway) in the OP's thread...here is a pic for anyone who can't see it in the 1st post:

http://walmart.ca/cms-portal/cmscontroller?size=2&width=500&height=500&command=filetransfer.ServletgetScaledLargeThumbnai lFile&imageid=68060

The OP did include a link: http://walmart.ca/Canada-Electronic.jsp?selection=listingDetails&assetId=49537&imageId=68060&departmentId=201&categoryId=678&tabId=1

The pic is there too.

[Nethervue]

The OP did include a link: http://walmart.ca/Canada-Electronic.jsp?selection=listingDetails&assetId=49537&imageId=68060&departmentId=201&categoryId=678&tabId=1

The pic is there too.

Yup, didn't say otherwise! What I said was the pic he linked in the post wasn't working, at least for me...I just get a red "X" where the pic is. I posted a link to the pic, thats all.

[Tornado F2]

Yup, didn't say otherwise! What I said was the pic he linked in the post wasn't working, at least for me...I just get a red "X" where the pic is. I posted a link to the pic, thats all.

Not a problem. I just thought you'missed the OP's (admittedly tiny) link! :)

It's a zoomable pic, so maybe your system is missing the latest flash driver or something.

I've seen this system in-store before. It is VERY white. Shiny white too, IIRC.

[Nethervue]

Weird..so if you go to post #1, right at the top, you see a pic of the PC? I just get the red "X" for where the picture link is. This is a test box i'm on, so thats why I said maybe its just me...but, I definetly don't see a pic in the first post.

[Tornado F2]

His link:

http://www.walmart.ca/popups/Canada-LargeItemShots.jsp?assetId=49537&imageId=68060

Yours:

http://walmart.ca/cms-portal/cmscontroller?size=2&width=500&height=500&command=filetransfer.ServletgetScaledLargeThumbnai lFile&imageid=68060

Yeah, I see now. There's definitely something wrong with the OP's pic link.

I thought you were referring to the product link itself.

[itsets]

pics from Op's link

http://www.walmart.ca/cms-portal/cmscontroller?size=2&width=500&height=500&command=filetransfer.ServletgetScaledLargeThumbnai lFile&imageid=68060

[Tornado F2]

pics from Op's link



No, you're using Nethervue's pic link.

Anyway, I think everybody should know what it looks like now. Except it's WHITER.

[Nethervue]

No, you're using Nethervue's pic link.

Anyway, I think everybody should know what it looks like now. Except it's WHITER.

LOL!!!

Anyone have a pic of the computer ;)?

[Tornado F2]

LOL!!!

Anyone have a pic of the computer ;)?

Somebody could try editing the pic to make it truly white. :)

[g7star]

Is the cpu upgradeable? Quick search shows Athlon X2 5050e might be one but is it the fastest chip available for the motherboard?

[marcXcore]

Bit the bullet and purchased one.
I asked them whether the return policy has been extended for the holiday season, and of course, no one knew the answer.

Perhaps someone here can shed some light on this?
On the receipt, it says electronics are 30 days, but is it longer because of Christmas returns?

[351oreo]

Just pick up one for $299 in Saskatoon, 10 packages left. Having problems with upgrading to Windows 7. Guessing this machine do not qualify. Any ideas???

[Tornado F2]

Bit the bullet and purchased one.
I asked them whether the return policy has been extended for the holiday season, and of course, no one knew the answer.

Perhaps someone here can shed some light on this?
On the receipt, it says electronics are 30 days, but is it longer because of Christmas returns?

14 days. Firm.

[Tornado F2]

Just pick up one for $299 in Saskatoon, 10 packages left. Having problems with upgrading to Windows 7. Guessing this machine do not qualify. Any ideas???

Home Basic doesn't qualify.

As I've said before, there are better deals, unless low price is your only concern.

[marcXcore]

14 days. Firm.

Called Walmart customer care and they said that if I ask for a gift receipt, warranty starts on December 25? Hmm. I better talk to the store manager or something before I really shoot myself in the foot.

[imoo2u]

Local WM posted the price at $398 on the shelf so showed the web ad @ $299. The associate said that it is US website but it is really from cdn WM website. To cut short, he decided to give a scan at the cash counter and surprise!! it rang up $299 so no more hassles about the web ad and instore prices.

BTW, thanks OP for the link otherwise would have ignore this deal as not willing to pay the instore display price. Imagine that now am back to having an emachine computer for the same price of the first one (1995 if my memory recalled) except the extra bonus is having a 20in lcd. Going to downgrade to XP as soon as I find xp drivers or upgrade when windows 7 becomes more 'stable' with its own drivers instead of vista ones.

[g7star]

I got the systems for $299 for my sister. It looks so fine and she loves it. They said 3 left when I was there yesterday. Thank you OP.

[Nethervue]

Local WM posted the price at $398 on the shelf so showed the web ad @ $299. The associate said that it is US website but it is really from cdn WM website. To cut short, he decided to give a scan at the cash counter and surprise!! it rang up $299 so no more hassles about the web ad and instore prices.

BTW, thanks OP for the link otherwise would have ignore this deal as not willing to pay the instore display price. Imagine that now am back to having an emachine computer for the same price of the first one (1995 if my memory recalled) except the extra bonus is having a 20in lcd. Going to downgrade to XP as soon as I find xp drivers or upgrade when windows 7 becomes more 'stable' with its own drivers instead of vista ones.

$299 for me to instore, even the little label was correctly priced. If you find XP drivers, let me know...think I'll put XP on it as well.

[chinese zzz]

I got the systems for $299 for my sister. It looks so fine and she loves it. They said 3 left when I was there yesterday. Thank you OP.

which walmart is that??:confused:

the one I saw from Dufferin mall shows $498 !! 3GB RAM 160HD:lol:

[Nethervue]

Going to downgrade to XP as soon as I find xp drivers or upgrade when windows 7 becomes more 'stable' with its own drivers instead of vista ones.

$299 for me to instore, even the little label was correctly priced. If you find XP drivers, let me know...think I'll put XP on it as well.

Looks like XP drivers are here:

http://support.gateway.com/support/drivers/search.asp?st=pn&param=EL1300&site=emachines

[g7star]

which walmart is that??:confused:

the one I saw from Dufferin mall shows $498 !! 3GB RAM 160HD:lol:

It was one at Bathurst & Centre. Showing $299 clearly on the tag.

[uglyguy]

South Edmonton Common WM still has 1 left BNIB as of last night. Picked up one last night, haven't open yet.

[inferno_gn]

Hi there,

Lucky for us in Quebec, they have to give what it is advertised, either in the flyers or on the website (even though it is noted on the website that price many varies in stores), but that's total BS since Walmart.ca doesn't have a way to buy it online and not to mention, that website is for price reference.

You could also file a complaint to the BB for false advertising. It's like a bait-and-switch, at least, by Quebec laws, it's illegal...

Ju Leon...

[napoleon1769]

How upgradeable is this?

[Badger]

The processor is 6 years old according to AMD. This computer is good for starters that need it for word processing and internet.

[Tornado F2]

How upgradeable is this?

Video card. Maybe.

[Nethervue]

Forgot to say thanks OP! I think for me, this is a perfect xmas gift for my little girl...she just plays Treehouse type games, she can plug her memory cards from her camera in the front, and the monitor is actually pretty decent for her to watch videos or what not.

[nsx]

The processor is 6 years old according to AMD...

Athlon 2650e was launched in 2008 to counter Intel's Atom chips in the netbook market.

AMD Athlon 64 2650e - Introduction date 4th quarter 2008 (http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K8/AMD-Athlon%2064%202650e%20-%20ADG2650IAV4DP%20%28ADG2650DPBOX%29.html)

Energy-saving single-core 15W K8
AMD Athlon 2650e (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=zh-CN&tl=en&u=http://www.hkepc.com/2232)

Atom has a smaller TDP, yet 2650e is not far behind (http://news.softpedia.com/news/AMD-Athlon-2650e-In-an-Affordable-Notebook-100115.shtml)

[saturnsw2]

hi
there are xp/vista/vista64 drivers on the emachine website.
manual is there also,no specs(slots free/max memory/upgrades etc.) that would help with a decision to buy.
bios update also.
ftp.emachines.com
jeff

[hempopotamus]

Grabbed one for the office today, our local WM had 10 as well. We mostly work on thin clients and remote connections other than my old MBP. Needed something to watch training DVD's and get on some IE only websites. This cheap little box is exactly what we needed. Plus the screen is pretty nice. Thanks OP

[jtplayte]

Hi All,

I grabbed one for a friend and one for a family member today. These should run Windows 7 just fine. I have Windows 7 Professional 32bit on an old Centrino 1.6Ghz laptop (dell 700m) with 768MB RAM and it runs great along with Office 2007.
Really can't beat this deal with 20" LCD. Monitor is easily worth $110, that means computer with 2GB RAM, 320GB HD, DVD Burner etc. etc. is only $190.
Wow, can't believe these haven't sold out yet.

Will load one with Win7 and report back.

[raccoon]

called my local walmart,the price is $299,confirm it.:lol:

[mahjongmaniac]

The LCD makes this a tempting offer. The BB offer for $329 (if you get the coupon to work) was hot, and there may be more similar deals with Vista Home Premium systems that do qualify for Win7 upgrades - retailers have to offload those Vista bricks somehow...

the BB $329 deal was esp. good if you could double dip on the coupon savings via ISPU (if successful reservation) --- $10off100 online, and $10off50 instore (SPC coupon)

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really good deal.....cheapest i've seen for a brand new all in one system, even refurbs. dont go for that low

Tigerdirect has the refurbs. model of that lcd going for 109.99+tax

new 20" LCDs typically go for $120-150 (sale/reg price), so its like getting the DT alone for $150-180

not bad at all

[BlueMax]

I wonder if there's ANY way to get a video card to work with PCIe-1x :(

This would be PERFECT if it only had an ATI IGP chipset. :( 6150 is just garbage... such a smoking deal though!

EDIT: It does! It'll have reduce bandwidth of course, but you could throw a low-profile 8400GS or other in there without too much fuss! Small mod required, but doable. It'll beat the snot out of the onboard 6150!

[mahjongmaniac]

Local WM posted the price at $398 on the shelf so showed the web ad @ $299. The associate said that it is US website but it is really from cdn WM website. To cut short, he decided to give a scan at the cash counter and surprise!! it rang up $299 so no more hassles about the web ad and instore prices.

word of advice: at WM, always ask for scanned pricing before you get ready to argue/negotiate for the lower price, if such discrepancy exists ;)

[Spiderpal93]

Saw one in box for $299 at Markham Rd. and Steeles Walmart as of 10pm tonight. I would grab one if I needed a new computer. Good luck for anyone trying to get one tomorrow:D

[superdave]

Picked up the display model today which was good for another 10% off. So $269 for a desktop with 2Gb Ram, 320Gb HDD, Super DVD with Label Flash (no clue what that is) and a 20" LCD. Great price, can't compare this to a tiny netbook unless you like looking at small screens/keyboards. There is definitely a market for this (all those older parents come to mind!). Biggest issue I have so far is the Vista Basic sucks as only Vista can and I'm trying to copy 4gb worth of data off a CD to the HD and it's talking FOREVER (like 16Min according to the windows explorer). I tried installing direct from the CD rom and that was taking forever as well so I tried copying it to the HDD to run from there (This is lego batman). Not sure if this is a vista issue or a PC issue but it is terrible at access speeds. I tried running Nero Disk Speed and the respons time was in the 110ms range. That seems awfully low. Anyone else getting that problem? DVD's seem to play fine

[superdave]

Wow so I'm trying to run lego batman and this thing is an absolute snail in terms of speed. Not really playable, going to try updating to the latest drivers. It's not like Lego games are hard core 3D either. Kinda sad so maybe no games at all on this machine other than flash based? I'll keep you posted (only thing I won't try is downgrading to XP to see if that makes it faster). Want to make sure the machine doesn't suck before reformatting the drive and losing the ability to return the unit.

[superdave]

Well new driver, same crappy performance. The Windows Experience is a whopping 2.5! My 5 year old laptop has better performance than this machine (from a graphic point of view and it's a Dell 6000!). Processor is a 3.4, Memory is a 4.8, Graphics is a 2.8, Gaming graphics is a 2.5, Primary HDD is a 5.9. Not sure if lowering all of the settings on the graphics will make it any better.
The LCD has a DVI input and the usual DSub but the box only has the dSub output.

Overall great for websurfing, crappy for anything with even an ounce of 3d graphics or basic gaming graphics. For the price, good deal, just don't expect alot out of this machine. It may actually run better in XP or Win7, I just haven't tried it.

[Passel]

http://www.tomshardware.com/ forum/249291-30-card

but i'm not sure how much room there is in the case for a standard length video card to fit in.

I might go and buy one of these as a backup pc.

[cheapbastage]

Well new driver, same crappy performance. The Windows Experience is a whopping 2.5! My 5 year old laptop has better performance than this machine (from a graphic point of view and it's a Dell 6000!). Processor is a 3.4, Memory is a 4.8, Graphics is a 2.8, Gaming graphics is a 2.5, Primary HDD is a 5.9. Not sure if lowering all of the settings on the graphics will make it any better.
The LCD has a DVI input and the usual DSub but the box only has the dSub output.

Overall great for websurfing, crappy for anything with even an ounce of 3d graphics or basic gaming graphics. For the price, good deal, just don't expect alot out of this machine. It may actually run better in XP or Win7, I just haven't tried it.

I played Lego-SW:TCS no problem on my Integrated 6150 graphics. Did you check the Bios settings for Video ram? Batman is newer, but it I doubt the requirements changed much.

[claudiu_corbea]

Does anyone have a picture of the mainboard? It would be a kick ass HTPC deal but only if I can install a proper video card in it. And I'm not sure if it has a PCI-E x1 or x16 slot.

[momentie]

Does anyone have a picture of the mainboard? It would be a kick ass HTPC deal but only if I can install a proper video card in it. And I'm not sure if it has a PCI-E x1 or x16 slot.

I found this picture on the net from computershopper, not sure if it's identical to the Walmart one...
http://computershopper.com/desktops/reviews/emachines-el1300g-01w

http://computershopper.com/var/ezwebin_site/storage/images/media/images/emachines-el1300g-01w-inside/240313-1-eng-US/emachines-el1300g-01w-inside_maxwidth.jpg

[Nokialuna]

nope you can't stick a pci-e graphics card into a pci-e 1x port

[Nethervue]

nope you can't stick a pci-e graphics card into a pci-e 1x port

What cheapo card would fit in here? Don't care about gaming, like to get a DVI out though.

[Nokialuna]

What cheapo card would fit in here? Don't care about gaming, like to get a DVI out though.

check this out. http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/1045/pci_e_x1_graphics_performance_with_galaxy_geforce_ 7300gt/index.html

I thought all pci-e video cards were only compatible with the x16 but i guess i was wrong.

[StewieLoose]

Anyone running XP or Win7 on this yet? If so can you please compare the performance to Vista.

[superdave]

I played Lego-SW:TCS no problem on my Integrated 6150 graphics. Did you check the Bios settings for Video ram? Batman is newer, but it I doubt the requirements changed much.

I looked in the BIOS and didn't find a setting for the video ram. Based on the system status, it looks like 256Mb ram. Not sure how else to make it better. Also batman does take more resources than StarWars (which I also have).

[16el]

i was able to pick one up after work today but I'm having buyers remorse.

Anyone know if this powerful enough to use as a basic htpc?

[Tornado F2]

I found this picture on the net from computershopper, not sure if it's identical to the Walmart one...
http://computershopper.com/desktops/reviews/emachines-el1300g-01w

http://computershopper.com/var/ezwebin_site/storage/images/media/images/emachines-el1300g-01w-inside/240313-1-eng-US/emachines-el1300g-01w-inside_maxwidth.jpg

Well, there's the really glaring problem with this system. Not only is it an underpowered version of Athlon 64 or Sempron systems of a couple of years ago (slower clock to lower power consumption in laptops - and power too), but there's absolutely no way to compensate for it with a decent PCIe 16x video card - because they didn't include a slot! The price may be low, the case somewhat attractive (if you like shiny white plastic), but performance-wise you'd be better off buying a cheap laptop. Or even a used 2-year old AMD system - they had better performance AND expansion then. Even the systems from eMachines!

The Acer Quad from BB absolutely blows this out of the water. No wonder THAT system sold out so fast. This one is cheap for a reason.

[Tornado F2]

i was able to pick one up after work today but I'm having buyers remorse.

Anyone know if this powerful enough to use as a basic htpc?

No. Not unless it actually does have the missing PCIe 16X slot. And even then only with a decent card installed.

[BlueMax]

Jeez... read the thread guys - you can get a low-end PCIe-16 video card to work in the PCIe-1 slot. It'll be far better than the terrible IGP.

[Tornado F2]

Jeez... read the thread guys - you can get a low-end PCIe-16 video card to work in the PCIe-1 slot. It'll be far better than the terrible IGP.

Through an x1 slot? Sounds like a waste of a card to me. Wouldn't the slot be far too much of a bottleneck? An x16 slot would have saved this system. Dumb not to include it. It would probably have only cost them $1 more at the manufacturing stage.

[Passel]

I bought this yesterday,
the screen is really nice and glossy, but its giving out a high pitch noise (like from tube tv's)
Am I the only one in this situation?

also according to the picture you can solder a x16(or 8) slot yourself :P

[Tornado F2]

I bought this yesterday,
the screen is really nice and glossy, but its giving out a high pitch noise (like from tube tv's)
Am I the only one in this situation?

also according to the picture you can solder a x16(or 8) slot yourself :P

Good luck with that! :)

Take a look inside your case. Let us know if there is a x16 slot there? If there is, there may be hope yet.

[Passel]

great...first thing i do with the pc (even before turning it on) is open it up :P

well its like in the picture posted previously with just the solder points for the pci-e slot, but there are many missing ic's and they may be necessary for the slot to work.

[Takada]

Through an x1 slot? Sounds like a waste of a card to me. Wouldn't the slot be far too much of a bottleneck? An x16 slot would have saved this system. Dumb not to include it. It would probably have only cost them $1 more at the manufacturing stage.

Can you post a better deal for $299?

[Tornado F2]

Can you post a better deal for $299?

There are equivalent-powered (and similarly "expandable" - i.e not really) laptops out there for $400 or less. Even at the larger retailers. Some even have Win 7. Take a look.

I bought an Acer SFF PC with Quad Q8300, 4GB DDR3, 640GB HDD, DVD-RW, decent Intel 4500 graphics, wireless network, x16 expansion, etc, free Win 7 upgrade, "$300+" s/w bundle, etc, AND my previously purchased Dell full-HD 23in LCD - all for just $500! Now THAT is a deal! :lol:

$300 might be the lowest retail price ATM, but it's still not the best deal, even for entry-level buyers. Esp once you add enviro fees - then you may even find cheaper laptops.

Another option might be to buy used. Most systems built in the last few years will outperform this particular eMachine, and have plenty of upgrade options too. Used systems likely already have a dedicated graphics card added too - a definite bonus over the integrated 6150 graphics that this system is stuck with.

[Tornado F2]

great...first thing i do with the pc (even before turning it on) is open it up :P

well its like in the picture posted previously with just the solder points for the pci-e slot, but there are many missing ic's and they may be necessary for the slot to work.

Too bad. Integrated 6150 graphics it will forever be. I really don't see x1 as a viable option.

[BigRedMonster]

There are equivalent-powered (and similarly "expandable" - i.e not really) laptops out there for $400 or less. Even at the larger retailers. Some even have Win 7. Take a look.

I bought an Acer SFF PC with Quad Q8300, 4GB DDR3, 640GB HDD, DVD-RW, decent Intel 4500 graphics, wireless network, x16 expansion, etc, free Win 7 upgrade, "$300+" s/w bundle, etc, AND my previously purchased Dell full-HD 23in LCD - all for just $500! Now THAT is a deal! :lol:

$300 might be the lowest retail price ATM, but it's still not the best deal, even for entry-level buyers. Esp once you add enviro fees - then you may even find cheaper laptops.

Another option might be to buy used. Most systems built in the last few years will outperform this particular eMachine, and have plenty of upgrade options too. Used systems likely already have a dedicated graphics card added too - a definite bonus over the integrated 6150 graphics that this system is stuck with.

So the short answer is no, you can't find a better deal for the price. I think most people in here are tired of hearing about the BB deal. We get it, but the deal is dead so move on. If you have something constructive to say about an active deal, great.

[Tornado F2]

So the short answer is no, you can't find a better deal for the price. I think most people in here are tired of hearing about the BB deal. We get it, but the deal is dead so move on. If you have something constructive to say about an active deal, great.

Well, here's a hint. I found a 15.6in laptop, similar 1.6GHz Athlon processor, same capacity HDD, same RAM, same DVD capability, better graphics, same price, lower enviro fee. And it's still out there (it was a few days ago anyway). That's a better deal, active too. But I'd still recommend spending another $70-$100 and getting a new Win 7 system instead. You'll be happier in the long run.

WM's "white elephant" :cheesygri will be a fine deal if it's allowed to hit $199.97 though.

[BlueMax]

Sheesh - talk about chinsy. This deal is great for non-gamers, mild-media-enthusiasts.

[disordered]

I bought this yesterday,
the screen is really nice and glossy, but its giving out a high pitch noise (like from tube tv's)
Am I the only one in this situation?


Mine is too, but it isn't that loud. Room has to be fairly silent, and from the front you don't heard much (it's louder behind the monitor). Also, turning up the brightness to 100 seems to make it mostly go away.

Bought this yesterday to use as a linux server/router. I wanted something with low power consumption unlike my older PCs. I measured this system and it uses about 40watts sitting idle. Installed Ubuntu 9.10 64bit, ethernet and sound worked automatically.

[Nethervue]

Any chance this can play MKVs with its onboard graphics? I'm guessing it would be "stuttery" at best.

[jtplayte]

I wonder if this would be worth it for some?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161280

Have 14 days to return mine, going to load Windows 7 today and see how it runs. Anyone else load Win 7 ?

[claudiu_corbea]

Any chance this can play MKVs with its onboard graphics? I'm guessing it would be "stuttery" at best.
720p might work using CoreAVC codecs (the best software MKV codec, but you have to pay for it). If you want to have hardware acceleration for all movies then you need an ATI Radeon 4550 minimum according to this (http://www.missingremote.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2564&Itemid=230&limit=1&limitstart=1). But even with a Radeon 4550 I'm not sure the CPU is enough...

[Passel]

If you guys want a video card, get this one: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121340
and then cut up the bottom of it and only keeping the single link (x1).

Its cheaper and its more performant than the 4350 native pcie x1. The x1 is a bottle neck but you will get more performance than the 4350.

Also for the low profile part, just remove the metal bracket and the vga cable.
EDIT: The card comes with the low profile bracket, so thats good.

If you dont want to cut the card, then melt the closed end of the pcie x1 slot

+10% off http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/10-off-entire-newegg-ca-site-max-250-discount-810060/

[jtplayte]

Hi All,

When I hit delete it won't take me to the bios ???? It goes to Windows Boot Manager every time.
Any ideas, I want to boot from DVD to load Windows 7.

Thanks.

[claudiu_corbea]

Bios might be F2. For Boot Menu to select DVD try F10, F12 or ESC.

[jtplayte]

Thanks...tried them all.

When I hit Tab to see the post screen, it does say to press Del for setup.

Wierd. Might be taking it back without loading it after all :(

[disordered]

Thanks...tried them all.

When I hit Tab to see the post screen, it does say to press Del for setup.

Wierd. Might be taking it back without loading it after all :(

Without hitting tab, mine automatically comes up with a splash screen that says to hit "Del" for setup and "F12" for boot menu.

F12 lets you select a boot device for that boot up. Not sure why "Del" or "F12" isn't working for you. Maybe you aren't hitting it soon enough? As soon as you power it up, try hitting "Del" repeatedly.

[jtplayte]

Without hitting tab, mine automatically comes up with a splash screen that says to hit "Del" for setup and "F12" for boot menu.

F12 lets you select a boot device for that boot up. Not sure why "Del" or "F12" isn't working for you. Maybe you aren't hitting it soon enough? As soon as you power it up, try hitting "Del" repeatedly.

Hi All,

Tried everything. Been building and fixing computers since 1995. Was curious to see this thing run on Windows 7 as I have had it running flawlessly on some old Barton core 2500+ with 1GB of RAM. I finally formatted the HD and still no go, something must be screwed up with bios/motherboard. At this point, not worth my time and hassle so I am taking it back. I have recovery discs created, but no use if can't boot up off DVD drive. If anyone gets Windows 7 running, let me know the experience as I might go back and get another one next week when I have more time.

Thanks for your input. Take Care.

jtplayte

[Nethervue]

Did you try a PS2 keyboard and a USB keyboard?

[jtplayte]

Did you try a PS2 keyboard and a USB keyboard?

Tried 2 PS/2 keyboards that I know work. They key registers, just takes me to a windows boot manager vs. bios. Taking back today.

Thanks.

[ramen]

Hi All,

If anyone gets Windows 7 running, let me know the experience as I might go back and get another one next week when I have more time.

Thanks for your input. Take Care.

jtplayte


I installed Win 7 on it and it runs fine. As others have said, to get a better multimedia experience, toss in a video card. Good PC for the basic audience.

[jeff69dini]

I installed Win 7 on it and it runs fine. As others have said, to get a better multimedia experience, toss in a video card. Good PC for the basic audience.

cool, can you give us all an idea of your 7 scores for cpu, ram, graphics, etc etc???

thanks in advance

[InternalStorm1]

I was playing with a similar model in store with same specs, and it seems to be snappy for regular desktop usage. Adding a graphics card is an investment that sort of takes the value out of this computer.

I was just wondering, I didn't see Aero with transparency working, does it work on this computer? Also, does this only have VGA, and how does this affect image quality on the monitor? Thanks!

[Passel]

I was just wondering, I didn't see Aero with transparency working, does it work on this computer? Also, does this only have VGA, and how does this affect image quality on the monitor? Thanks!

Aero isisnt a feature of windows vista basic.
Yes it only has VGA
Quality looks fine on vga.

[Tornado F2]

If you guys want a video card, get this one: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121340
and then cut up the bottom of it and only keeping the single link (x1).

Its cheaper and its more performant than the 4350 native pcie x1. The x1 is a bottle neck but you will get more performance than the 4350.

Also for the low profile part, just remove the metal bracket and the vga cable.
EDIT: The card comes with the low profile bracket, so thats good.

If you dont want to cut the card, then melt the closed end of the pcie x1 slot

+10% off http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/10-off-entire-newegg-ca-site-max-250-discount-810060/

Good luck returning products, or getting warranty repairs, once you've mutilated the equipment. Really good advice to be giving everybody. NOT!

If somebody needs better graphics than the basic setup integrated in the motherboard then they really should be buying a different system in the first place.

[redmileage99]

Bought one tonight. Ran 1080p mkv with classic media player home theater. Very choppy, CPU 100% all the time. 720p was fine but CPU was still near 100%. It's definitely not good for HD movie. It will go back to WM tomorrow.

[dealtaker]

8 of them at the Leduc Walmart.

[packet1]

bought one and found it is really slow on vista. And there is no slot for normal pci-e video or pci cards, only a one lane pci-e slot. the cpu is only single core running at 1.6G, not dual as I had expected.

I guess I will return it too. would rather pay a little bit more for a dual core laptop.

[vsaint]

I believe emachines is made by Acer, and i remember buying a Acer monitor, but returned it due to noise as well.
It's normal, nothing wrong with it, just bought another brand name that was quieter.

[crashxxx]

although I read through all 8 pages so far in this thread and looked at the emachine specs on their site I was unable to figure out a few things. wondering if anyone that has picked one up can clarify for me.. or point me to where I missed the info.

I'm thinking about picking one of these up will the mobo support the following

I have a brand new Athlon 64 X2 AM2 5000+ cpu sitting in the box

will it work in this machine?

maybe I'm slow this morning... LOL :)

Thanks

[Passel]

although I read through all 8 pages so far in this thread and looked at the emachine specs on their site I was unable to figure out a few things. wondering if anyone that has picked one up can clarify for me.. or point me to where I missed the info.

I'm thinking about picking one of these up will the mobo support the following

I have a brand new Athlon 64 X2 AM2 5000+ cpu sitting in the box

will it work in this machine?

maybe I'm slow this morning... LOL :)

Thanks

No go. The motherboard allows up to 45w cpu tdp. The X2 5050e 45w is the maximum you can put in this machine.

[Passel]

Good luck returning products, or getting warranty repairs, once you've mutilated the equipment. Really good advice to be giving everybody. NOT!

If somebody needs better graphics than the basic setup integrated in the motherboard then they really should be buying a different system in the first place.

You can get 2 of that video card for the price of 1 hd4350 pciex1. How is that a bad thing....
Do you use the warranty on all the products you buy? expect them all to die out on you within a year?

[crashxxx]

No go. The motherboard allows up to 45w cpu tdp. The X2 5050e 45w is the maximum you can put in this machine.

Thank you for the info :)

[dealtaker]

You can get 2 of that video card for the price of 1 hd4350 pciex1. How is that a bad thing....
Do you use the warranty on all the products you buy? expect them all to die out on you within a year?
It is easier to just not respond.
Don't encourage him

[Tornado F2]

You can get 2 of that video card for the price of 1 hd4350 pciex1. How is that a bad thing....
Do you use the warranty on all the products you buy? expect them all to die out on you within a year?

They actually make x1 video cards? Wow. :confused:

What I meant is it's one thing to hack away at your own hardware, but quite another to advise others to do the same, esp when they would clearly lack sufficient technical know-how.

If you do get it to work, how about posting a pic so people can see exactly what it is you've done.

Personally I'd just buy a better machine to begin with.

[newt_101]

Thanks, got one for my sister.

They were sold out at Dufferin Mall and Keele/Lawrence, so I got one from the Runnymede/St. Clair location (they had 2 more in stock as of 8 p.m.)

[InternalStorm1]

No go. The motherboard allows up to 45w cpu tdp. The X2 5050e 45w is the maximum you can put in this machine.

Where did you find this information? I am curious because if in the future I wished to beef this computer up a bit this would be helpful :)

And to those on the fence, I finally decided to buy it, and honestly if this is for a parent/grandparent/child who doesn't do games or watch HD videos, this is a snappy little machine. The monitor is probably made by Acer as it has the same style options menu.

[dmyvr]

Anyone know if any GVR stores are carrying this?

[InternalStorm1]

Anyone know if any GVR stores are carrying this?

Langley has a bunch.

[Passel]

Where did you find this information? I am curious because if in the future I wished to beef this computer up a bit this would be helpful :)

And to those on the fence, I finally decided to buy it, and honestly if this is for a parent/grandparent/child who doesn't do games or watch HD videos, this is a snappy little machine. The monitor is probably made by Acer as it has the same style options menu.

http://emachines.co.uk/em/product.do;jsessionid=812ACA3649BCCF2F7C5E02E220DF FD57.public_a_14c?ctx1w.att21k=2&LanguageISOCtxParam=en&sp=page6l&link=ln40l&CountryISOCtxParam=UK&ctx1l.c2att1=17&kcond4l.c2att101=63996&CRC=1926161757

I know about the 5050e because of a similar model with that cpu in it. Its sold in france though :P
http://www.commentcamarche.net/guide/opinions/1268201-acer-emachine-el-1300-4f7z-amd-athlon-x2-5050e-2-6-ghz-4-go-320-go-dvdrw-win-vista-home-basic

and even who knows, maybe the board supports am3 45w cpu's like this quad core
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=45759&vpn=AD605EHDGIBOX&manufacture=AMD

[Tornado F2]

Where did you find this information? I am curious because if in the future I wished to beef this computer up a bit this would be helpful :)

And to those on the fence, I finally decided to buy it, and honestly if this is for a parent/grandparent/child who doesn't do games or watch HD videos, this is a snappy little machine. The monitor is probably made by Acer as it has the same style options menu.

There's little point beefing up the CPU when the GPU is the real limiter here - and that can't be upgraded. You just need to accept this machine as it is, and always will be, if you buy one.

[Passel]

There's little point beefing up the CPU when the GPU is the real limiter here - and that can't be upgraded. You just need to accept this machine as it is, and always will be, if you buy one.

Please stop talking.
Thanks

[Nethervue]

I think I got the last one in Fredericton, if I could update the graphics card for cheap, I'd keep it in a heartbeat. Mine is going back soon, its new in box, didn't try it or anything. If anyone wants it, let me know.

[packet1]

I plan to return mine as well since it is not so easy to upgrade video card. It is a good basic desktop for email, web, video etc, and uses only about 40-50w on power.

If anybody wants to take it at cost please let me know. Located in thornhill area.

[chriscotty]

I purchased one today for a friend who will just use for browsing and using accounting software . I was a little uneasy about the dvd drive as it loaded sideways and it looked very delicate.

Apparently I was correct as I was installing Rogers Online Protection and the disc got stuck.

It stopped reading the information on the disc..I rebooted a few times ...and of course I tried the paperclip trick in the little hole (powered on and off) ...along with many other options including employing gravity to get it to give up the disc and seeing if the drive is recognized in device manager (it does) and right clicking and ejecting..(obviously does not).

All to no avail..that disc seems like it is in there for good.

I was happy with the performance for the first 4 hours..

Not sure if I will exchange or just get a refund.

I do agree that this is not a machine for a hardcore gamer but I was very happy with the specs/cost ratio of the system.

Any other tricks to get that sucker out of the drive without opening the box and voiding the warranty would be appreciated =-)

Curious to know if any other purchasers of this unit had problems ?

[Tornado F2]

I think I got the last one in Fredericton, if I could update the graphics card for cheap, I'd keep it in a heartbeat. Mine is going back soon, its new in box, didn't try it or anything. If anyone wants it, let me know.

I plan to return mine as well since it is not so easy to upgrade video card. It is a good basic desktop for email, web, video etc, and uses only about 40-50w on power.

If anybody wants to take it at cost please let me know. Located in thornhill area.

----


Please stop talking.
Thanks

Not a chance. I'm pointing out valid weaknesses with this system, as evidenced by other posters like those above. If my posts spare somebody the disappointment and frustration of buying, checking, then returning the machine then they are well worthwhile.

You can live in your own fantasy world where you ignore the realities and facts if you like, but don't expect everybody else to join you.

This machine is fine if it meets your needs right out of the box. But it's not worthwhile, and maybe not even possible, to try to correct its weaknesses. There are better deals out there.

BTW, still waiting for a pic of your wonderful video card modification that you expect everybody else to do.

[InternalStorm1]

I have to say that this PC has a purpose - for somebody who wants the CHEAPEST computer they can get. This is a CHEAP computer, it is less than $200 if you factor in the cost of the monitor! There are better deals for this price, but without a monitor. I rarely if ever see computers on for less than $200...soooo if e-mail and web and word processing are what you are after, this is a snappy machine (from my experience with it) and the only real limitation is it can't do games or watch HD video.

[CanadianMoFo]

Like Tornado F2 suggested, it's not worth even bothering to mod the unit.

We picked one up last week for the office. It's a nice small computer that takes little desk space. Stripped Vista off it and installed XP Pro for use with our server at work. Works just fine for office work. Great price for a new terminal in an office that doesn't get used much.

CM

[chriscotty]

I totally agree..I did the same thing. Took Vista off.

20 inch Monitor only worth a $100 off?

I have heard a few people mention on here mention there are better deals out there.

Mind you..all depends on what you are looking for..but let's say you are looking for a better budget computer.

What deals would you say are superior?

[Tornado F2]

Like Tornado F2 suggested, it's not worth even bothering to mod the unit.

We picked one up last week for the office. It's a nice small computer that takes little desk space. Stripped Vista off it and installed XP Pro for use with our server at work. Works just fine for office work. Great price for a new terminal in an office that doesn't get used much.

CM

Its white case probably wouldn't look out of place in a medical office either. :)

For the right (basic) uses it's likely fine. But I think home users will need better video performance than it's capable of offering.

[Tornado F2]

I totally agree..I did the same thing. Took Vista off.

20 inch Monitor only worth a $100 off?

I have heard a few people mention on here mention there are better deals out there.

Mind you..all depends on what you are looking for..but let's say you are looking for a better budget computer.

What deals would you say are superior?

I was referring before to basic laptops. You'd be amazed (as I was) at how cheap some now are, and they offer practically identical performance to this eMachine, for little extra cost, esp when you add $40+ enviro fees to this bundle. Possibly even better performance, as they use more modern components. nVidia 6150 graphics are at least 2 years old now.

[Passel]

I was referring before to basic laptops. You'd be amazed (as I was) at how cheap some now are, and they offer practically identical performance to this eMachine, for little extra cost, esp when you add $40+ enviro fees to this bundle. Possibly even better performance, as they use more modern components. nVidia 6150 graphics are at least 2 years old now.

not everyone wants a laptop.
also "esp when you add $40+ enviro fees to this bundle"
does not apply everywhere, like in quebec.

[dealtaker]

Please stop talking.
Thanks
Lol, I love it.
Thanks for that.

[dealtaker]

.

[Tornado F2]

not everyone wants a laptop.
also "esp when you add $40+ enviro fees to this bundle"
does not apply everywhere, like in quebec.

If you had a laptop you'd likely chop off the LCD screen anyway. :lol:

Believe it or not I'm offering advice to others, not you. Most RFDers don't live in QC. You're free to go your own way, as I'm sure you will. Bon chance with your modding efforts. Just quit trying to mod me.

[BlueMax]

Just quit trying to mod me.

Seriously - you have very little idea what you're talking about and spreading FUD. You are NOT helping anyone here and making yourself look foolish. You decide the next move there.

That said, this is STILL a great deal for $300. No you can't easily mod it. No, it's not a powerhouse.

For someone who wants a basic email/internet machine and a nice screen - this fits the bill and even looks pretty snazzy.

Gamers, enthusiasts and Tornadoes - move on.

[Tornado F2]

Seriously - you have very little idea what you're talking about and spreading FUD. You are NOT helping anyone here and making yourself look foolish. You decide the next move there.

Gamers, enthusiasts and Tornadoes - move on.

What I've said has been accurate. If you guys want to waste your time and energy buying and returning it that's your problem. I've said all that I need to say. People with sense will recognise that the advice is solid.

I've followed my own advice and picked up a superior laptop for my relatives instead. I'm sure they'll be happier for it, and that's all that counts.

[dealtaker]

seriously - you have very little idea what you're talking about and spreading fud. You are not helping anyone here and making yourself look foolish. You decide the next move there.

That said, this is still a great deal for $300. No you can't easily mod it. No, it's not a powerhouse.

For someone who wants a basic email/internet machine and a nice screen - this fits the bill and even looks pretty snazzy.

Gamers, enthusiasts and tornadoes - move on.

+1

[naushadakhtar]

HI Guys, I am looking for this deal but not able to find the store. Can you tell which store it is available in or atleast how to find except by physically going

[InternalStorm1]

HI Guys, I am looking for this deal but not able to find the store. Can you tell which store it is available in or atleast how to find except by physically going

Call in to the store and ask :)

[16el]

HI Guys, I am looking for this deal but not able to find the store. Can you tell which store it is available in or atleast how to find except by physically going

I returned mine to the walmart in milton yesterday.

[georgiee]

got one for the parents. Hope its good enough for watchin some videos!

[superdave]

got one for the parents. Hope its good enough for watchin some videos!
I've run mine thru some DVD movies and on you tube. Also streamed live TV on it and everything seems fine for that type of use. It will suck for most games unless you turn the details way down. For the use I have planned for it, it will be a great deal (I got mine for $270 as it was the display model).

[georgiee]

: ) parents love it. They claim is pretty fast, even running silly vista. Thanks OP, great deal imo. Probably gontta put w7 on it when I get a chance to go back home. :) Gotta love that ACM w7 deal.

[darlee]

i have bought this bundle today for my brother yet he doesnt like it thus I am planning to return this BNIB unit. Located @ markham. If any RFDer still want to get this bundle, please kindly let me know!

[2007camryhybrid]

Got one from impulsive buying, probably going to return, if anyone interest.
PM asap.
Still BNIB

HAPPY SHOPPING!!!!

[D2K8]

They have one of these bundles left at the Walmart at HWY 27 and Langstaff in Woodbridge as of tonight. They had two but I bought one as a gift, good deal IMO.