Buying food from WalMart/DollarStore

[Emancipated]

These two stores are publicly known to purchase from China and almost exclusively. Some stores carry food items like canned good that are the same carbon copy of those found in your local grocers so the question needs to be answered is; are they the same? China manufactures a lot of counterfeit even food. A few months ago some people said there were fake Ferrario Roche chocolate treats in the market. Knowing this, what do you make of all this?

[Hairball]

Some items at dollar stores are questionable. But I find the chocolate bars at Dollarama are very fresh and they have a good price at 65 cents each.

As for Wal-Mart, they are a great place to buy food, it's just like what you get at the supermarkets. What's the problem with them? The only thing is that these days I find Wal-Mart is not as cheap as it used to be, other stores often have lower prices than them.

[tyl2ant]

Everytime I go on a trip down to the US, my family often goes to Walmart to shop for food because it's a lot cheaper there. But usually, we only buy chips, pop, etc.... none of those no name stuff that we've never heard of though.

The only thing I usually buy from the Dollar store is candy ( Mike and Ike's :D) and pop because its a lot cheaper than buying food from the theatre.

[Emancipated]

Some items at dollar stores are questionable. But I find the chocolate bars at Dollarama are very fresh and they have a good price at 65 cents each.

As for Wal-Mart, they are a great place to buy food, it's just like what you get at the supermarkets. What's the problem with them? The only thing is that these days I find Wal-Mart is not as cheap as it used to be, other stores often have lower prices than them.

What's wrong is that you don't know what you're buying is what you're buying. WalMart buys their products almost exclusively from China and that means their food could be counterfeit. The Dollarstore is the same so how do you know that Hershey's chocolate bar is really the same Hersheys sold at No Frills? WalMart is ruthless about savings so they can pass on the savings to the consumers or so it's portrayed. I'm thinking there's more than meets the eye in the products displayed at WalMart.

[crysissniper]

everything is fake nowadays anyway its hard to trust anything from any big grocer as pessimistic as it sounds.

[iamnotamerican.com]

What's wrong is that you don't know what you're buying is what you're buying. WalMart buys their products almost exclusively from China and that means their food could be counterfeit.

Me thinks you're doing a little stereotyping. Not all Chinese suppliers are counterfeiters.

[Hairball]

What's wrong is that you don't know what you're buying is what you're buying. WalMart buys their products almost exclusively from China and that means their food could be counterfeit. The Dollarstore is the same so how do you know that Hershey's chocolate bar is really the same Hersheys sold at No Frills? WalMart is ruthless about savings so they can pass on the savings to the consumers or so it's portrayed. I'm thinking there's more than meets the eye in the products displayed at WalMart.

I think you are being ridiculous. They do buy a lot of products from China, but most of their food products are the same ones you find at other grocery stories.

And plus not everything from China is fake.

[fightbriz]

I know eh.. You can't say that, not everything from China is fake you know..... just... most... :lol:

They're real (as opposed to imaginary) fakes if that eases your mind.

[number8888]

Let's see what's OP train of thought is:

1) Walmart/Dollarama sells stuff at a cheap price.
2) Cheap stuff are made in China.
2) China made products are fakes.

Hence, Walmart/Dollarama sells fakes stuff.

There's so many things wrong with the above.

Sure the packaging might not be as nice, or maybe the ones in these stores is the "value pack" size instead of the regular ones elsewhere. That's because they negotiate with the companies for a better price as they have huge buying power. That's what's driving their prices down.

And they don't "deal exclusively with China". Rather they deal with companies that may or may not manufacture their goods in China. The products made this way still has to adhere to our standards. Just because it's made from China doesn't mean is fake/bad quality.

Think about it. Why would they risk legal complications by dealing underhandedly? Do you think that they won't get caught? It's ridiculous to think that a big prominent store chain can operate illegally like that. Millions of people buy from them each day. People will notice if something is "different".

I don't know why you are getting so paranoid. I am pretty confident that the foods aren't counterfeit. If you are going to make accusations like that, show some proof/evidence.

[Calcutron]

I buy junk food at dollar stores. I would probably buy other types of food if they had the brands I liked. I always check the food, ie expiry date on cans, freshness of produce etc, at ANY store. Alot of products come from China, people demand cheap (voting w/ dollars) so you get products from China.

[ItzMe]

Haven't heard about any issues with Walmart groceries, and they've been selling them for years on end in the States to rave reviews (including very well priced organics in some areas).

I'd be far more concerned with eating canned goods in general (high sodium content and whatever else) as opposed to whether I got it from Walmart or Safeway or wherever else (no, I don't have any source, but if anyone can show me that the green giant can of corn that I get for 2 bucks from safeway or half that from walmart is ANY different other than the price, well - you should be able to sell that story to any number of news outlets...and I'll be the first to step off my walmart rocks horse ... but until then - I love walmart and all the power to 'em to sell more groceries please :))

[setell]

I buy some food from Dollarstore like cheap chocolate bars, chips in smaller sizes (sometimes you can't finish a big bag) etc. Plus what's wrong with food at Wal-Mart? I've discovered I like their BBQ chicken, their bakery stuff is tastey and cheap compared to loblaws, cheaper juices etc. I'm finding Wal-Mart's regular grocery prices are cheaper then Loblaws so I've made the jump as they are right beside each other. Oh and best of all, Wal-Mart gives you free plastic bags :D I love going really early on a Saturday morning to Wal-Mart to buy really fresh bakery and BBQ chicken.

[TCWeasel]

r. Oh and best of all, Wal-Mart gives you free plastic bags :D I love going really early on a Saturday morning to Wal-Mart to buy really fresh bakery and BBQ chicken.

Careful! The chicken could be a Chinese fake.

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Simply because they sell stuff made in China doesn't mean that EVERYTHING they sell is made in China.

[Cheap Cat]

I don't find WM food to be cheap at all, so I guess according to the OPs logic, it is not from China. I did several price matches last week at WM and was surprised at how expensive things were. Add that to the lineups and I can't understand why anyone would do their grocery shopping at WM. Their produce also looks like crap. No Frills, Food Basics and Price Chopper are all much cheaper than WM.

[Winkle]

I've bought granola bars and canned tuna/sardines from dollarama and they were okay. I wouldn't do it all the time but I was a student and had little $$.

Walmart's fine, they carry the same stuff as the other large grocery chains.

Everything's made in China these days, what do you want? All the ingredients for health supplements like calcium/vitamin pills etc. are imported from China and simply stamped in local processing factories.

Also, "Product of Canada" labels don't mean anything, legally any food product can be labeled "Product of Canada" as long at least 51% of the production process took place in Canada... these items are almost certainly manufactured in China, or Mexico or other countries, shipped here in bulk and simply repackaged at local facilities to qualify for that 51% (they usually add in lots of redundant and un-necessary steps in the packaging procedure to make that percentage lob-sided).

[Ottomaddox]

What's wrong is that you don't know what you're buying is what you're buying. WalMart buys their products almost exclusively from China and that means their food could be counterfeit. The Dollarstore is the same so how do you know that Hershey's chocolate bar is really the same Hersheys sold at No Frills? WalMart is ruthless about savings so they can pass on the savings to the consumers or so it's portrayed. I'm thinking there's more than meets the eye in the products displayed at WalMart.

What makes you think that everything at No Frills is squeaky clean?
If you look at the Loblaws chain as a whole, they get tons of stuff from China as well.

Any retailer can be potentially duped about the origin/pedigree of the products they purchase, and I sincerely doubt that Walmart and dollarstores are actively seeking counterfeits; in fact, they have a vested interest in keeping the process as honest as possible. The consumer backlash against them would be vicious.

Shoot, Walmart has the market power to dictate to all suppliers. They don't have to settle for counterfeits, they can get the real thing for the same money.

[Emancipated]

What makes you think that everything at No Frills is squeaky clean?
If you look at the Loblaws chain as a whole, they get tons of stuff from China as well.

Any retailer can be potentially duped about the origin/pedigree of the products they purchase, and I sincerely doubt that Walmart and dollarstores are actively seeking counterfeits; in fact, they have a vested interest in keeping the process as honest as possible. The consumer backlash against them would be vicious.

Shoot, Walmart has the market power to dictate to all suppliers. They don't have to settle for counterfeits, they can get the real thing for the same money.

I saw a documentary on WalMart few years ago where they showed their day to day operations. Everything about them seemed low-rent. They work out of a place that looked suited for travelling insurance sales men who stay in motels. They have no cleaning maids and take out their own trash. It's just the general vibe from that that leaves a bad taste.

[amz155]

What the...?

Just read the label, it'll say where the food is produced.

If you are concerned about the food being imported into Canada you can call the CFIA. But good luck getting anywhere if your arguement is that you "think" that Wal-Mart, Dollarama are buying "fake" food from China.

[amz155]

They have no cleaning maids and take out their own trash.

Who cares? What does this have to do with the probablility of them buying counterfit food?

[ItzMe]

I saw a documentary on WalMart few years ago where they showed their day to day operations. Everything about them seemed low-rent. They work out of a place that looked suited for travelling insurance sales men who stay in motels. They have no cleaning maids and take out their own trash. It's just the general vibe from that that leaves a bad taste.

Having worked in retail when I was in school I can guarantee that Walmart isn't the only place that "has no cleaning maids and take out their own trash" - plenty of staff at other places do the same.

At the end of the day, if the vibe you get from them doesn't sit well - shop elsewhere. It's a free country with lots of competition - and I know that other mom & pop grocers will definately appreciate your business.

Personally I'll stick to the folks that give me the best value whilst still providing a reasonable level of service - today that's still Walmart/Superstore (although I admit, I do my fruits/veg at a chinese grocer! :) )

[Emancipated]

Having worked in retail when I was in school I can guarantee that Walmart isn't the only place that "has no cleaning maids and take out their own trash" - plenty of staff at other places do the same.

At the end of the day, if the vibe you get from them doesn't sit well - shop elsewhere. It's a free country with lots of competition - and I know that other mom & pop grocers will definately appreciate your business.

Personally I'll stick to the folks that give me the best value whilst still providing a reasonable level of service - today that's still Walmart/Superstore (although I admit, I do my fruits/veg at a chinese grocer! :) )

Sorry I wasn't being clear. I meant the founders of WalMart, the CEO, the entire Walton gang. They work out of a complex that resembles a strip mall. They're so frugal that they don't have someone to clean their offices for them and they take out the trash themselves. It just shows how stringent about cost cutting they are. If a bidder can get them product X for 1 cent cheaper per unit, they'll do it. I just don't see them caring about quality of the product or working environment at all as long as it's cheapest for them to procure.

Watch the segment, Muscling Manufacturer:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/walmart/view/

[ItzMe]

Sorry I wasn't being clear. I meant the founders of WalMart, the CEO, the entire Walton gang.


Fair enough, no problem.


They work out of a complex that resembles a strip mall.



I love it; I'd much rather have them save costs by staying in Class C office space than blowing cash on some fancy premium space; they're doing what (IMO) good managers do - look out for their shareholders and controlling costs. It's a culture that permeates from the top - i.e they don't just talk the talk - they're walking the walk, showing staff that they're willing to do what it takes. Essential for a company like Walmart.


They're so frugal that they don't have someone to clean their offices for them and they take out the trash themselves. It just shows how stringent about cost cutting they are. If a bidder can get them product X for 1 cent cheaper per unit, they'll do it. I just don't see them caring about quality of the product or working environment at all as long as it's cheapest for them to procure.



I agree that they probably won't care about quality points above whatever minimum legal standards there are (and yes, I firmly believe that they care about minimum legal standards these days - the last few years have seen major turnarounds in their attitudes).

That said, they've introduced amazing changes due to their drive to cut costs - for example, in the US, Walmart is now able to mail households prescriptions for 10$ for a 90 day supply of many common drugs for conditions like high blood pressure - that's an amazing boon for folks who could otherwise not afford it in locations that aren't near enough competition to force prices down.

Overall, I don't go to walmart expecting (lets use clothes as the example) Hugo boss suits - I know that I'm going to get what I pay for; but I also know that, for example, if I pay 3$ for "Brand A" shampoo at Walmart, or 6$ for the same "Brand A" shampoo at my local drug store - it's the blasted same product - just a heck of alot cheaper at walmart - and I'll go with walmart's every day of the week! :)

[jimmy-j]

i buy my dickies work wear there... i just double checked the label on my pants.. it says DIXIES!! WTF!??

[slowtyper]

These two stores are publicly known to purchase from China and almost exclusively.

What does "publicly known" mean? Can you prove it?

Some stores carry food items like canned good that are the same carbon copy of those found in your local grocers so the question needs to be answered is; are they the same?

I think you might be a bit naive as to where the food comes from that you see in your local grocery store (which is?).

Also for packaged goods, it will say right on the package where its made, they aren't shy about saying something is made in China.

[Hairball]

There are actually new product labelling laws coming into affect this year.

http://www.inspection.gc.ca/english/fssa/labeti/prodcan/queste.shtml

According to the website "all or virtually all" of the ingredients have to be Canadian. The language is confusing but I guess it has to be around 98% or so in order to meet the requirement.

[slowtyper]

I was curious where walmart head office was located, so here it is: http://www.bing.com/maps/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCC&cp=q1tsdy74fmk7&style=o&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=30873156&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&ss=ypid.YN57x488870~pg.1&encType=1

Doesn't look like a strip mall to me...don't believe everythign you see in "documentaries" OP. They are rarely unbiased.

[cheapmeister]

One time on the cbc channel I saw that frozen fish products (high liner etc) sold in any canadian supermarket can contain fish from China. The package will say "made in Canada" or "packaged in Canada". However the fish is form China! So beware, any Canadian product might just be packaged here but it actually came from somewhere else! Its 100% legal too!

[Ottomaddox]

Sorry I wasn't being clear. I meant the founders of WalMart, the CEO, the entire Walton gang. They work out of a complex that resembles a strip mall. They're so frugal that they don't have someone to clean their offices for them and they take out the trash themselves. It just shows how stringent about cost cutting they are. If a bidder can get them product X for 1 cent cheaper per unit, they'll do it. I just don't see them caring about quality of the product or working environment at all as long as it's cheapest for them to procure.

Watch the segment, Muscling Manufacturer:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/walmart/view/

Which is fine; the point is that Walmart gets products cheap because of their buying power, and they can get real name brands for the price they want.. they don't have to resort to buying counterfeits.

Look, there's lotsa shady underhanded stuff Walmart does, it's been exposed and documented many times over; I personally think they are pretty evil as a company... but your claims here are unfounded and unproven allegations. There's plenty of other dirt on them without having to dream up more. ;-)

[LisaB]

I saw a documentary on WalMart few years ago where they showed their day to day operations. Everything about them seemed low-rent. They work out of a place that looked suited for travelling insurance sales men who stay in motels. They have no cleaning maids and take out their own trash. It's just the general vibe from that that leaves a bad taste.

I was curious where walmart head office was located, so here it is: http://www.bing.com/maps/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCC&cp=q1tsdy74fmk7&style=o&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=30873156&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&ss=ypid.YN57x488870~pg.1&encType=1

Doesn't look like a strip mall to me...don't believe everythign you see in "documentaries" OP. They are rarely unbiased.

We now know that Walmart's HO is not located in a strip mall, but even if it was, what's the problem with that? What's wrong with them not hiring any cleaning staff and taking out their own garbage? To me, it seems as though they're doing the right thing - they're conscious and aware and they're not being wasteful. I'd much rather Walmart keep costs down at their HO then them be wasteful, file for bankruptcy and then accept a bailout from taxpayers...like some companies have done in the recent past....

One time on the cbc channel I saw that frozen fish products (high liner etc) sold in any canadian supermarket can contain fish from China. The package will say "made in Canada" or "packaged in Canada". However the fish is form China! So beware, any Canadian product might just be packaged here but it actually came from somewhere else! Its 100% legal too!

This is true. In the summer, I was flipping through the PC Insider's Report that featured new PC products. Every product had a star beside it, and the fine print at the bottom of the page said Made in Canada from imported ingredients. Imported can mean Belgian chocolate...but it can also mean Chinese fish as well....

[GVRtrader]

Not even a fair statement to compare Walmart to a Dollar store unless you're just comparing price.

The goods you buy at Walmart are the exact same as the ones you can buy @ RCSS, Save on Foods, Costco, etc. As long as the items are the same brand, its the exact same item... unless of course you are accusing Walmart of selling other brands and pretending it the legit brand. If that's the case, i hope you know some good lawyers...

Also not only does Walmart buy a lot from China... every store does. Its really not a choice since most manufacturers now have their factories in China to save cost.

[Emancipated]

I didn't really want to start or lead this discussion down a anti-Chinese angle. The fact is, WalMart is where they are today because they're a ruthless business who know how to get the lowest prices to pass on the savings to their consumers but do you even question how their manufacturers/producers can do that and survive? Someone, somewhere needs to cut corners to allow that to happen.

[jimmy-j]

I didn't really want to start or lead this discussion down a anti-Chinese angle. The fact is, WalMart is where they are today because they're a ruthless business who know how to get the lowest prices to pass on the savings to their consumers but do you even question how their manufacturers/producers can do that and survive? Someone, somewhere needs to cut corners to allow that to happen.


well zipadee-do-dah! welcome to corporate america where this happens everywhere. from the clothes you wear to the car you drive to the food you eat. corners are cut to save money regardless if it's in china, mexico, vietnam, india, usa or canada. it happens with EVERY business. why limit this thread to only walmart and dollar stores?

hey everybody, stop buying everything because companies out there are trying to save money and by doing so may be cutting some corners!!!

[GVRtrader]

I didn't really want to start or lead this discussion down a anti-Chinese angle. The fact is, WalMart is where they are today because they're a ruthless business who know how to get the lowest prices to pass on the savings to their consumers but do you even question how their manufacturers/producers can do that and survive? Someone, somewhere needs to cut corners to allow that to happen.

Completely different statement and points than what you made in the OP (besides pricing).

Its a business model that works for Walmart and if a company does not want to play by Walmart's rules, they don't have to. They just need to find a different method to survive. I'm sure most customers (and probably most posters in this forum... since this is a bargain hunting community) would shop at the place with the lowest price... and not care why/how they sell stuff lower than anyone else.

[appkidak]

FYI-facts
Dollarama has FOOD products form China, India, Pakistan, Turkey, Italy, Spain, other parts of Europe as well.

examples include rice from Pakistan, olive oil from Turkey, choc. croissants from Italy, spices from Spain, canned fish from Germany, halal soups made in India. Some products state 'packaged for a &*&()^% -Canadian company'

Some are Canadian food products- made and packaged in Canada: Knorr's chicken broth etc.

On a different note- groceries stores like IGA have certain products like fresh garlic , exclusively from China. One cannot find local fresh garlic.

[GreyingJay]

I think the only thing I would truly be wary about buying from China is preserved "pei dan" eggs. My mother (who is Chinese, like me :D ) insists that to be safe, we should only buy the ones from Taiwan, and make sure it says "lead free" on the label (of course just because it says so doesn't make it so, but...)

But this isn't something you'll find at a Wal-Mart or a dollar store. :D (T&T, though, yes.)

[haisam10]

Just to put it out there, there are standards to import food and other things into Canada from anywhere else in the world. Unless there is massive fraud being committed by Walmart and Dollarama, you should not worry about the food quality in terms of if it is dangerous or not. Quality in terms of taste is probably another story however.

[Hairball]

I think the only thing I would truly be wary about buying from China is preserved "pei dan" eggs. My mother (who is Chinese, like me :D ) insists that to be safe, we should only buy the ones from Taiwan, and make sure it says "lead free" on the label (of course just because it says so doesn't make it so, but...)

But this isn't something you'll find at a Wal-Mart or a dollar store. :D (T&T, though, yes.)

If you really want to be safe, you probably shouldn't eat that kind of stuff at all.

Just to put it out there, there are standards to import food and other things into Canada from anywhere else in the world. Unless there is massive fraud being committed by Walmart and Dollarama, you should not worry about the food quality in terms of if it is dangerous or not. Quality in terms of taste is probably another story however.

While it is true there are standards, but I don't think anyone would be surprised from things from China. Heck even Canadian made stuff isn't always up to par.

[Bookpreviews]

everything is fake nowadays anyway its hard to trust anything from any big grocer as pessimistic as it sounds.

I was also reading how some discount stores also sell fake salon products and was told that was in the US a lot.

Also how would you know if the fancy brand item you buy at Dollarama is even real?

Also Dollarama for the cosmetics they sell a lot of stuff that is years old.

How do you also know the brand name food you buy is not from China?
Kraft makes or sells a lot of chinese made foods.

Most of the rice crackers they make are from China.
If you look at the boxes they do not say where they are made, just "imported by Fraft foods"
to me , who eats a lot of rice crackers that is a sign they are Chinese.

Also, even Pringles sells Asian made products.
Take a look at the new pringles snack sticks.
I used to buy the same exact snack at an Asian shop before the store closed 2 years ago exept the one I used to get was Pocky and japanese.
Now the pringles has the exact snack with different flavors, but the same cracker sticks and from Thailand, also cheaper usually.

I think most companies do not want you to know their products are made in China so a lot thesedays the just put on the packaging that it is packaged in Canada and that's it.

I'm not against Chinese foods if it seems that way or Dollarama,
you just have to be careful w ith what you buy.

Did you know that China is also one of the biggest producers of tea, then also India.
If you drink any green or white tea, it is most likely from China.
From talking to people more black tea is produced in India, but also some greens but not as much.

[Bookpreviews]

Sorry I wasn't being clear. I meant the founders of WalMart, the CEO, the entire Walton gang. They work out of a complex that resembles a strip mall. They're so frugal that they don't have someone to clean their offices for them and they take out the trash themselves. It just shows how stringent about cost cutting they are. If a bidder can get them product X for 1 cent cheaper per unit, they'll do it. I just don't see them caring about quality of the product or working environment at all as long as it's cheapest for them to procure.

Watch the segment, Muscling Manufacturer:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/walmart/view/

Is your workplace that "fancy"?

Also not all Chinese products are cheap.
Some chinese teas sell for hundreds and thousands of dollars.
Esp some green teas and also Pu Erh tea,
that was just in Time and Macleans magazine recently.

[Bookpreviews]

FYI-facts
Dollarama has FOOD products form China, India, Pakistan, Turkey, Italy, Spain, other parts of Europe as well.

examples include rice from Pakistan, olive oil from Turkey, choc. croissants from Italy, spices from Spain, canned fish from Germany, halal soups made in India. Some products state 'packaged for a &*&()^% -Canadian company'

Some are Canadian food products- made and packaged in Canada: Knorr's chicken broth etc.

On a different note- groceries stores like IGA have certain products like fresh garlic , exclusively from China. One cannot find local fresh garlic.

Really?
I saw some local garlic and also the local farmers market they have people who grow their own fruits and vegetables and sell them there.
The one I go to only people who grow thei rown items can sell there.

They also have garlic scrapes, which is kind of like garlic.

But those are not super cheap like chinese garlic is like .25 a pc and the local item is like $3

If you shop at a farmers market you can usually find a lot more than you expect.
The one I shop at has a cheesemaker, fresh mushrooms, grapes, plums and tons of vegetables.

[slowtyper]

Really?
I saw some local garlic and also the local farmers market they have people who grow their own fruits and vegetables and sell them there.
The one I go to only people who grow thei rown items can sell there.

They also have garlic scrapes, which is kind of like garlic.

But those are not super cheap like chinese garlic is like .25 a pc and the local item is like $3

If you shop at a farmers market you can usually find a lot more than you expect.
The one I shop at has a cheesemaker, fresh mushrooms, grapes, plums and tons of vegetables.

Yes of course you can get fresh locally grown garlic at farmers markets. He said at grocery stores like IGA (and loblaws, and metro, etc etc) all their garlic is from China.

i did notice some black garlic recently at a korean supermarket but not sure where it came from. I should have bought some because I went back later and they were gone.

[Bookpreviews]

Yes of course you can get fresh locally grown garlic at farmers markets. He said at grocery stores like IGA (and loblaws, and metro, etc etc) all their garlic is from China.

i did notice some black garlic recently at a korean supermarket but not sure where it came from. I should have bought some because I went back later and they were gone.

I was going to buy some black garlic also,
until i learned how it is made.
I read about it online and had seen a US website selling it-am on their mailing list.

The koreans or chinese they roast the garlic then it is fermented until it blackens to give it a sweet flavor.
I think I would like fresh roasted garlic better.

Well, the Metro store near me they are trying to sell mostly local produce so would not surprize me to see local garlic at that one store. they are more expensive than other metro stores and evens sell locally made foods like cheese, apple cider and fudge.
Not like what the regular metro chain sells.

[Eyeman]

And they don't "deal exclusively with China". Rather they deal with companies that may or may not manufacture their goods in China. The products made this way still has to adhere to our standards.



Don't you think that all the crappy and dangerous Chinese products sold in North America claimed to be made to our standards. Get real, man. They lied. You can't trust Chinese goods. That's not paranoia, that's experience. Ask all the dog an cat owners who had their animals killed by the Chinese pet food. Ask all the people whose homes are worthless thanks to Chinese drywall.

Quit apologizing for them. The facts speak for themselves

[Emancipated]

Don't you think that all the crappy and dangerous Chinese products sold in North America claimed to be made to our standards. Get real, man. They lied. You can't trust Chinese goods. That's not paranoia, that's experience. Ask all the dog an cat owners who had their animals killed by the Chinese pet food. Ask all the people whose homes are worthless thanks to Chinese drywall.

Quit apologizing for them. The facts speak for themselves

Didn't even know about a drywall incident. Having read a little about it, it's just disgusting.