(Updated)Bell Iphone plan + Unlimited Video calling $5 +Data only plan $30 !

[ecgz88]

$99 (iPhone 3G 8GB), $199 (iPhone 3GS 16GB), and $299 (iPhone 3GS 32GB):


Iphone basic plan:

$50/month

» 36 month contract only
» 150 Minutes
» Unlimited Evenings/Weekends @ 9PM
» Local Fab 5
» 500 mb Data included tathering
» Wi-Fi unlimited at Starbucks»


$60 give you 300 Minutes+1GB Data

$80 give you 400 Minutes+2GB Data+ National Fab5+ caller ID/Message centre+Visual Voice Mail

$100 give you 500 Minutes+3GB Data +National Fab5+ caller ID/Message centre+Visual Voice Mail+ Unlimited Text


you can check here to know if your phone is compatible for sure

http://www.bell.ca/support/PrsCSrvWls_COAM.page


Updated: PDA/Iphone data only price plans (flexible monthly fee)

$30+SAF for 500MB, flexible up to 5GB $85 :D, works for Iphone


if you remove data pack in first 12 month, $200 charge back

If you are a existing Bell Mobility customer, don't bother it. Bell just changed hardware upgrade policy, unless your contract will be over within 1 month, you won't get any hardware credit, and Bell strictly won't allow any upgrade credit overwrite by manager now.


Video calling ‏ $5No data or voice usage charges apply!!! and your friend can call you from facebook only availble for • LG Xenon • Samsung Omnia 2

To place a call, the Facebook user needs to select Place Call and the person receiving the call on their phone needs to have a subscription to Bell Video Calling.

Once the call is connected you will see the call originator’s image on the left side of the screen and the Bell Video Calling subscriber on the right side of the screen.

bonus 3 months free of Video Calling for new activation subscribes to any Share Plan and eligible hardware.



other phones will launch:

• BlackBerry Bold 9000
• BlackBerry Bold 9700

• Samsung Impact
• Samsung Omnia II (Bell exclusive)
• LG Xenon
• Nokia 2730
• Nokia 6350
• Novatel Wireless U950
• Novatel Wireless U998 (21Mbps!)
• Novatel Wireless X950


HSPA is launching not just to urban centres but to rural and remote locations right across Canada with service to almost 20,000 cities and towns. 93 per cent of Canada�s population in a geographic coverage area greater than 1.2 million square kilometres from coast to coast will be able to access mobile high-speed HSPA service from day one. That puts ahead of the current HSPA operator in Canada, Rogers, right from the start.

Bell will allow non-bell phone in new HSPA network (has to be 850/1900 HSPA/UMTS compatibility phone , GSM compatibility phone won't work!
if you want unlock a Bell HSPA phone, Bell can do it for you with a $75 fee

[tallguy84]

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11/sarahpitre/freezing-rain.jpg

[ramaslamma]

Wow daytime minutes blow man...this is horrendous..hopefully Telus will offer something better.

[audit13]

I doubt Telus will offer much more. There's a discussion about the Bell and Telus plans here: http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/bell-telus-iphone-plans-announced-808378/

[Goober56]

Haha nice pic.

[yao416]

Epic first post, lol

[sfu_lifer]

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11/sarahpitre/freezing-rain.jpg

Awesome work buddy.

[elty]

if you want unlock a Bell HSPA phone, Bell can do it for you with a $75 fee[/B]

I think Rogers won't unlock your iPhone no matter what? If so then it is better than nothing.

[Angultra]

Lame hardware upgrade policy. Guess I won't bet getting an iPhone for another 10 months or so...

[audit13]

I'm going for the Omnia II or iPhone 16gb without a data plan. I know it'll be $200 extra but the phone will go to my friend.

[salchamp]

Dude, I'm on a corp. plan it it allows me to upgrade every year....if you work for Bell, I still qualify right?


$99 (iPhone 3G 8GB), $199 (iPhone 3GS 16GB), and $299 (iPhone 3GS 32GB):


Iphone basic plan:

$45/month

» 36 month contract only
» 150 Minutes
» Unlimited Evenings/Weekends @ 9PM
» Local Fab 5
» 500 mb Data
» Wi-Fi unlimited at Starbucks»
» Add: SAF, 911 Fee ($7.70/month)

$55 give you 300 Minutes+1GB Data

$75 give you 400 Minutes+2GB Data+ National Fab5+ caller ID/Message centre+Visual Voice Mail

$95 give you 500 Minutes+3GB Data +National Fab5+ caller ID/Message centre+Visual Voice Mail+ Unlimited Text



if you remove data pack in first 12 month, $200 charge back

If you are a existing Bell Mobility customer, don't bother it. Bell just changed hardware upgrade policy, unless your contract will be over within 1 month, you won't get any hardware credit, and Bell strictly won't allow any upgrade credit overwrite by manager now.

other phones will launch:

• BlackBerry Bold 9000
• BlackBerry Bold 9700

• Samsung Impact
• Samsung Omnia II (Bell exclusive)
• LG Xenon
• Nokia 2730
• Nokia 6350
• Novatel Wireless U950
• Novatel Wireless U998 (21Mbps!)
• Novatel Wireless X950


HSPA is launching not just to urban centres but to rural and remote locations right across Canada with service to almost 20,000 cities and towns. 93 per cent of Canada�s population in a geographic coverage area greater than 1.2 million square kilometres from coast to coast will be able to access mobile high-speed HSPA service from day one. That puts ahead of the current HSPA operator in Canada, Rogers, right from the start.

Bell will allow non-bell phone in new HSPA network (has to be 850/1900 HSPA/UMTS compatibility phone , GSM compatibility phone won't work! )
, if you want unlock a Bell HSPA phone, Bell can do it for you with a $75 fee

[yydmay]

, if you want unlock a Bell HSPA phone, Bell can do it for you with a $75 fee[/B]

Can they unlock HSPA IPhone? so I can use it on other networks?

[audit13]

Dude, I'm on a corp. plan it it allows me to upgrade every year....if you work for Bell, I still qualify right?

Do corp plans include good data prices? I've heard about some really good voice-only Bell plans.

[dragun]

seems odd wouldn't they want more people to upgrade to make more money off the iPhone...

[dragun]

All phones but the iPhone will be unlocked im sure for $75

[salchamp]

@audit13

the voice plans are very good, but they have NO data included nor do the have corp. data+voice combos....


Do corp plans include good data prices? I've heard about some really good voice-only Bell plans.

[cawaala]

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11/sarahpitre/freezing-rain.jpg

WOW Picture says all.

[salchamp]

@ecgz88 what is your source on the rate plan? Has it been posted because I've been following the press releases and nothing has been released yet.

[devils-haven]

finaly bell telus and rogers on the same plaing field(more or less) and still don't compete with each other, all 3 offer same price

[westendbum]

6 months left on my 3yr term bell plan....Never again will i be on a 3 year (this was the first time I tried it)....And never again will I go with bell (even though I have been with them for over 15 years!!!

Just give me an everything all in plan like Verizon has in the US for $50 bucks and I would be :)

[salchamp]

dude, from now one, I'm buying my iphone out right...at least I'll also be free to hop from one provider to another after i complete my term



6 months left on my 3yr term bell plan....Never again will i be on a 3 year (this was the first time I tried it)....And never again will I go with bell (even though I have been with them for over 15 years!!!

Just give me an everything all in plan like Verizon has in the US for $50 bucks and I would be :)

[salchamp]

finaly bell telus and rogers on the same plaing field(more or less) and still don't compete with each other, all 3 offer same price

HA! Competition? Not in this country! AND the CRTC should be dismantled...

[HowEver]

No deal. Certainly no hot deal.

[professionaldude]

Ice cold hope telus have something better.

[lorax1284]

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11/sarahpitre/freezing-rain.jpg

This picture says it all when it comes to Bell's pricing plans and policies.

Fool me once, shame on you... I will never ever again be a Bell Mobility customer.

[Chickenfryer]

finaly bell telus and rogers on the same plaing field(more or less) and still don't compete with each other, all 3 offer same price

Price fixing comes to mind! Is that allowed in Canada?:confused:

[champdood]

Price fixing comes to mind! Is that allowed in Canada?:confused:

Only if there's collusion (i.e. they sit down and agree not to beat each others price), the three of them can basically match each others prices without concern so long as they don't discuss it with each other.

Bell and Telus don't need to beat Rogers horrendous prices either, the iPhone is still selling incredibly well (you still can't order one off Rogers website thanks to low stock levels) and Bell/Telus have the better network, so most people will gravitate towards them.

What will hopefully happen is that Rogers will see their market share on the iPhone slipping quickly and drop their price to be more competitive, and it'll work down from there.

[tg82]

i don't think these are the plans.

It hasn't been picked up on BGR - nor does Howardforums have anything going on it. I think its a tip sent in but unverified.

[TheRequiem]

no android lovin at all :( boourns

[j4y88]

Booo!!! Samsung Omnia II only on Bell??? why!!! i was hoping it would go to Telus.. $%^& now what.. sigh... my dreams flushed down the drain...

i wonder how much it would cost just to buy the Omnia and attach it to a telus plan =P

[iheartpepsi]

Anyone have any guesses what effect this new network will have on mobile internet sticks for those in rural areas? Been holding out on getting wireless from Xplorenet, but am just wondering if this will be a better alternative even if it means waiting 6 months.

[temporary user]

lol @ the data plan for the iphone.
Unlike the blackberry, iPhone doesn't compress data. Those 500MB were originally meant for blackberry and you will use at least 4x that on the iPhone.

I wonder if Rogers still has the 30$ for 6GB data. That makes much more sense and a hell of a lot cheaper. Plus tethering.


Btw, any news on Bell incorporating their scam fees into the basic package?

[alesto]

6 months left on my 3yr term bell plan....Never again will i be on a 3 year (this was the first time I tried it)....And never again will I go with bell (even though I have been with them for over 15 years!!!

Just give me an everything all in plan like Verizon has in the US for $50 bucks and I would be :)

There are no "all in" plan for $50 with Verizon

[alesto]

HA! Competition? Not in this country! AND the CRTC should be dismantled...

I am SO much with you on that.

CRTC just rejected GlobalLife bid. Disgusting!

I am wondering why we have had no conversation on that topic at this forum?

[alesto]

lol @ the data plan for the iphone.
Unlike the blackberry, iPhone doesn't compress data. Those 500MB were originally meant for blackberry and you will use at least 4x that on the iPhone.

I wonder if Rogers still has the 30$ for 6GB data. That makes much more sense and a hell of a lot cheaper. Plus tethering.


Btw, any news on Bell incorporating their scam fees into the basic package?

There are no more 6Gig data plans offered by Rogers (as per my knowledge)

This is where we can mention Americans - you can get unlimited data for $30 - either iPhone or smartphone

[xtcnrice]

Hey there. I'm an existing Bell Mobility user as well (yes I know... shame) and I was wondering if anybody knew how this hardware upgrade process works.

I currently have a really crappy Moto KRZR on the CDMA network with Bell. When the HSPA network launches, how would I go about getting a new HSPA-compatible phone to work on their network? Will they charge me a fortune just to get a "SIM" card out of them for me to put into a phone I buy from elsewhere? Also, let's say I bought an unlocked HSPA phone, will it work with Bell? Or would I have to do that $75 thing?

EDIT:

My contract is not due until sometime in August next year. I'm willing to pay some sort of fee if I need to, because this phone is driving me nuts.

Thanks

[ecgz88]

PM me if you're new activation and want go for this new iphone combo plan :cheesygri

[kool1]

500 mb of data... ya good luck.:lol:

[xaznxplaya]

So does anyone knows how much the Omnia II will go under Bell? And what's up with the unlimited Wi-Fi at Starbucks, you wouldn't have to pay for it at home will you?

[tomtomtom]

Booo!!! Samsung Omnia II only on Bell??? why!!! i was hoping it would go to Telus.. $%^& now what.. sigh... my dreams flushed down the drain...

i wonder how much it would cost just to buy the Omnia and attach it to a telus plan =P

Looks like Bell pay enough dough to samsung to keep the exclusive right. Keep an eye on the Buy/sell/trade forum and see if there are any resale, and unlock em' for Telus. (I don't even know if unlocking is needed, after all, they use the same network anyway)

[shaolinmonk]

Those 500MB were originally meant for blackberry and you will use at least 4x that on the iPhone.


500mb is actually plenty for most.. i'm on my iphone all day, twitter, surfing, email, some youtube and downloading..i've never gone over 500mb yet...i downgraded from 6gig to a 500mb value plan..

anyway if you need to tether or do internet radio streaming you would need 1gig plus... otherwise 500 will cover about 95% of users imo.

[nosnoop]

, if you want unlock a Bell HSPA phone, Bell can do it for you with a $75 fee

Better yet, you can do it yourself for FREE.
An iPhone unlock tool should be released in 2 days' time. And yes, it should work with the latest iPhone baseband 05.11.07, and phones from Rogers/Fido.

[xtcnrice]

Hey there. I'm an existing Bell Mobility user as well (yes I know... shame) and I was wondering if anybody knew how this hardware upgrade process works.

I currently have a really crappy Moto KRZR on the CDMA network with Bell. When the HSPA network launches, how would I go about getting a new HSPA-compatible phone to work on their network? Will they charge me a fortune just to get a "SIM" card out of them for me to put into a phone I buy from elsewhere? Also, let's say I bought an unlocked HSPA phone, will it work with Bell? Or would I have to do that $75 thing?

EDIT:

My contract is not due until sometime in August next year. I'm willing to pay some sort of fee if I need to, because this phone is driving me nuts.

Thanks

bump

[audit13]

Hey there. I'm an existing Bell Mobility user as well (yes I know... shame) and I was wondering if anybody knew how this hardware upgrade process works.

I currently have a really crappy Moto KRZR on the CDMA network with Bell. When the HSPA network launches, how would I go about getting a new HSPA-compatible phone to work on their network? Will they charge me a fortune just to get a "SIM" card out of them for me to put into a phone I buy from elsewhere? Also, let's say I bought an unlocked HSPA phone, will it work with Bell? Or would I have to do that $75 thing?

EDIT:

My contract is not due until sometime in August next year. I'm willing to pay some sort of fee if I need to, because this phone is driving me nuts.

Thanks
It might be difficult for anyone to provide a definitive answer since the phones have not been released to the public. I intend to get an Omnia II or iPhone on Nov 4. Since I'll be receiving a Bell sim, I'm going to try the Bell sim on a Rogers/Fido iPhone to see if it will work on the Bell network. I'll also try the Bell phone with my Rogers sim to see what happens.

[xtcnrice]

It might be difficult for anyone to provide a definitive answer since the phones have not been released to the public. I intend to get an Omnia II or iPhone on Nov 4. Since I'll be receiving a Bell sim, I'm going to try the Bell sim on a Rogers/Fido iPhone to see if it will work on the Bell network. I'll also try the Bell phone with my Rogers sim to see what happens.

Interesting, and thanks for the reply. How do you get the Bell sim btw? I suppose that was my real question, because I really want to be able to move onto a better phone such as the Omnia II or something similar.

EDIT: Sorry, I just realized that Omnia II will be exclusive to Bell, and I suppose that's how you will be getting a SIM card (along with the newly purchased phone).

How would I be able to get a SIM card without purchasing an actual HSPA-compatable phone FROM Bell?

[alesto]

Hey there. I'm an existing Bell Mobility user as well (yes I know... shame) and I was wondering if anybody knew how this hardware upgrade process works.

I currently have a really crappy Moto KRZR on the CDMA network with Bell. When the HSPA network launches, how would I go about getting a new HSPA-compatible phone to work on their network? Will they charge me a fortune just to get a "SIM" card out of them for me to put into a phone I buy from elsewhere? Also, let's say I bought an unlocked HSPA phone, will it work with Bell? Or would I have to do that $75 thing?

EDIT:

My contract is not due until sometime in August next year. I'm willing to pay some sort of fee if I need to, because this phone is driving me nuts.

Thanks

When you have your new unlocked HSPA phone, you can call Bell and upgrade to Customer Owned Equipment (aka your own phone). Bell will provide you with all necessary equipment (SIM) to keep you service line alive. (They can probably charge you for the SIM card)

[storch]

Rogers no longer offers the 6 gig as it was only a promotion and you wont see it until the next Iphone comes out. $30 for 500mb for both carriers.

[xtcnrice]

When you have your new unlocked HSPA phone, you can call Bell and upgrade to Customer Owned Equipment (aka your own phone). Bell will provide you with all necessary equipment (SIM) to keep you service line alive. (They can probably charge you for the SIM card)

Cool. Will I have to change my existing plan? I'm on a semi-decent retentions plan that I don't want to lose. If I upgrade to an HSPA phone, they won't require me to change my plan will they? (I'm not expecting any real answer out of this since you probably don't work for them, but any sort of speculation would be great)

[kaddy69]

» Unlimited Evenings/Weekends @ 9PM


I have really had enough of them changing the unlimited weekends and evenings time. When it's evenings after 9PM, it should be called nighttime.
Brutal, 6pm used to be the standard. I really wish we had competition like in the USA.

[chiptuned]

lol, total garbage plan. Bell and the CRTC can rot in hell.

[Bastich]

What happened to the unlimited data option? I thought Apple was originally pushing carriers to offer unlimited only. I guess they backed down after seeing our lovely Canadian wireless rates...
:|

[ulfy]

What happened to the unlimited data option? I thought Apple was originally pushing carriers to offer unlimited only. I guess they backed down after seeing our lovely Canadian wireless rates...
:|


since bell and telus are hand and hand...rogers is rogers...globalive is just about dead...do you honestly think these guys will give cheap plans?
dun even think about states style plans.
to be fair...if i were to run one of these prividers...i'll be raping your ass too.:evil:

[RideGuy]

Just wondering if Bell offers their crippled firmware mods on all their phones. At work we bought the software and cable to program all our phones. We did it to populate all the phones with all the number of other employees and suppliers and such.

We also wanted to put on ring tones and backgrounds. Then we learned that it is not possible because Bell has modded the firmware so that the only way to get them is to download them. From what I've read the same phone by any other carrier would have been possible to transfer anything we wanted.

[brunes]

What happens if you roam out of a Bell HSPA zone with this phone, since the Bell HSPA areas are small? Do you get charged extra? Does the phone even work at all (do they have roaming with Rogers) ? Can you roam to an EDGE only zone?

[thepred]

I don't imagine the new phones frm Telus will be compatible with jailbreak. I would imagine they are all newer 3GS phones so they will have the newest bootrom on them. This means it will need to be tethered everytime. Thats not really an option.

[tomtomtom]

I wanna say this to Bell & Telus. If you want to take a piece out of Rogers, you better smart up and offer some decent plan.

Or else, I will watch your network rot away until 4g comes along.

[joey003]

What happens if you roam out of a Bell HSPA zone with this phone, since the Bell HSPA areas are small? Do you get charged extra? Does the phone even work at all (do they have roaming with Rogers) ? Can you roam to an EDGE only zone?

did you miss the part where it said the new hspa+ network covers 93% of cdn population, coverage nearly anywhere that has cdma currently?

anyway, if you do go out of coverage, you lose signal. most likely if you were on rogers there wont be any 2g coverage in those areas anyway to fall back on

[HowEver]

I don't imagine the new phones frm Telus will be compatible with jailbreak. I would imagine they are all newer 3GS phones so they will have the newest bootrom on them. This means it will need to be tethered everytime. Thats not really an option.

There are no *different* iPhones. Anywhere. Except China, where the government required that they cripple wifi in them.

Otherwise, it's a world of the same.

Today blackra1n releases the unlock for the latest 3GS firmware. Next month, new firmware, new unlock and jailbreak. Welcome to tomorrow.

[ecgz88]

Updated:

Video calling ‏ $5No data or voice usage charges apply!!! and your friend can call you from facebook only availble for • LG Xenon • Samsung Omnia 2

To place a call, the Facebook user needs to select Place Call and the person receiving the call on their phone needs to have a subscription to Bell Video Calling.

Once the call is connected you will see the call originator’s image on the left side of the screen and the Bell Video Calling subscriber on the right side of the screen.

bonus 3 months free of Video Calling for new activation subscribes to any Share Plan and eligible hardware.

[westendbum]

There are no "all in" plan for $50 with Verizon

You obviously only watch Canadian TV, unlike anyone that lives in a border city and becomes Americanized....Watch a US network and see the Verizon commercial for yourself.....
Nationwide unlimited text and talk...anywhere in North America, to anyone on any network!!!!
My cousin has the plan....bought the phone and plan in the US cuz she lives there, and then brought it here and gave it to her parents so now they just pay the $50 and talk anytime with no long distance or airtime charges, would be great if all you did was make outgoing calls and or everyone in the world had this plan....As in this case they can call each other and they can call anyone they want in NA and still be in plan, but anyone who calls them pays normal ld rates and stuff, unless they have this plan or one like it I guess.

[Candeeman]

~damn you, bell~

[cloneman]

I said it once and I'll say it again, the best deal is the price cut that will ensue on Rogers's Part in response to this.

[Books]

Wow...all I have to say is that I'm glad to be a Bell Mobility employee.

[donkeyman]

I would love to be given the opportunity to run Bell for 1 year. I bet I can get Bell beating Telus in sales AND be increase the bottom line revenue at the same time. There's more than one way to skin the cat, but Bell does it the unpopular way. In this case, we happen to be the cat.

[Bastich]

Just wondering if Bell offers their crippled firmware mods on all their phones. At work we bought the software and cable to program all our phones. We did it to populate all the phones with all the number of other employees and suppliers and such.

We also wanted to put on ring tones and backgrounds. Then we learned that it is not possible because Bell has modded the firmware so that the only way to get them is to download them. From what I've read the same phone by any other carrier would have been possible to transfer anything we wanted.

Good point. Tried to copy a picture once to my Virgin phone over Bluetooth. Not allowed! Had to use the camera to take a photo of the picture on my computer screen.
:mad:

[zoolander]

(Sorry, if this info is a repost)

blacksn0w is LIVE, unlock ALL current iPhones, OS 3.1.2 baseband 05.11.07 which means...

no need to go through Bell's iPhone plans if you don't need data. Wifi is everywhere, at home, at work, hotspots. Buy an iPhone from Apple, buy a used one, wherever... get a SIM based cheap voice plan and put the SIM in your unlocked iPhone, whether it be Bell/Telus/Rogers/Fido/PAYG, find the plan that best suits you.

Free SMS over wifi.
Skype plans over wifi, does not use your minutes, a good option if you do not use a home phone, $8/month to call and receive like a regular phone, unlimited North America

[incidents]

Bell $45/month

» 36 month contract
» 150 Minutes
» Unlimited Evenings/Weekends @ 9PM
» Local Fab 5
» 500 mb Data included tathering
» Wi-Fi unlimited at Starbucks»
» Add: SAF, 911 Fee ($7.70/month)

That is terrible. It comes to $52.70 with all of the fees. Fido has a way better "deal" that is really just their basic plans!

Fido's $25 voice + $25 data
» 36 month contract
» 100 Minutes (billed by the SECOND ie: a 2 second call uses 2 seconds not 1 minute and a 3:03 minute call uses 3:03 minutes not 4 minutes)
» Unlimited Evenings/Weekends @ 7PM
» Unlimited texting nationwide (not just 5 people)
» Unlimited incoming texts worldwide
» 500 mb Data
» Wi-Fi unlimited at Rogers/Fido hotspots
» No other fees like SAF, etc.

In my opinion Fido's $50 plan destroys Bell's $52.70 plan mainly due to unlimited texting and per-second billing.

[can't get 'nough dealz]

The new Rogers Plan is way better as well

50+GRR 2.58

200 day time,
Unlimited after 9
500 mb data

CHOICE OF
Unlimited text

MY 5 Canada Wide

Double Mins (300)

Unlimited Network Calling

[antman59]

[QUOTE=temporary user;9691898]lol @ the data plan for the iphone.
Unlike the blackberry, iPhone doesn't compress data. Those 500MB were originally meant for blackberry and you will use at least 4x that on the iPhone.

I wonder if Rogers still has the 30$ for 6GB data. That makes much more sense and a hell of a lot cheaper. Plus tethering.
QUOTE]

6G plan Plus skype on the iphone, who needs voice?

[djredhat]

The new Rogers Plan is way better as well

50+GRR 2.58

200 day time,
Unlimited after 9
500 mb data

CHOICE OF
Unlimited text

MY 5 Canada Wide

Double Mins (300)

Unlimited Network Calling

uuuh, wouldn't double mins be 400? 2 x 200 = 400, not 300.

[djredhat]

Anyone having an idea what their data only plans would be?

Plus guys, don't use Skype, get freephoneline.ca account instead and use a SIP client (one time fee of $50, plus they can port your number :D )

[antman59]

I just left Bell for home phone and internet. What I find is they have delusions of Grandeur, at least with their TV and it looks like with their HSPA and Iphone as well.

Basically Bell is saying we are so much more better that you should be honured to pay more for our excelent product. Don't fall for it.

[can't get 'nough dealz]

uuuh, wouldn't double mins be 400? 2 x 200 = 400, not 300.

the plan is actually 100+100 bonus, so double is really 200+100

[br0pbr0p]

Wow.. my $30 data value pack is looking hot now.

[gohtor]

i mentioned interest in bell iphone. i got remainder year on contract. I was told purchasing the phone is last on priority over activations.

gives me a compelling reason to wait a year since they're holding the loyalty credit until the end of the contract term. either that or jump over to fido.

[simms]

Wow.. my $30 data value pack is looking hot now.

500MB with JB iPhone + 3G unrestrictor + skype = awesome.

[mcaj]

You obviously only watch Canadian TV, unlike anyone that lives in a border city and becomes Americanized....Watch a US network and see the Verizon commercial for yourself.....
Nationwide unlimited text and talk...anywhere in North America, to anyone on any network!!!!
My cousin has the plan....bought the phone and plan in the US cuz she lives there, and then brought it here and gave it to her parents so now they just pay the $50 and talk anytime with no long distance or airtime charges, would be great if all you did was make outgoing calls and or everyone in the world had this plan....As in this case they can call each other and they can call anyone they want in NA and still be in plan, but anyone who calls them pays normal ld rates and stuff, unless they have this plan or one like it I guess.

Is that the "North America Plan" from Verizon? How many daytime minutes do you get? I have a similar plan from AT&T that i've been using for years now. The plan is no longer offered, but i'm one of the lucky few still using it (grandfathered). The only catch is that living here in Canada, most ppl actually cannot call me since it costs them LD charge (that too international). Kinda sucks, I know.

[AcidBomber]

lol Bell is so jokes.
cant wait until my contract ends in 10 months. lame HUP too...

[apcfan]

My current contract with bell ends in 2 weeks, and they've offered me a pretty decent retention plan (voice only) if i sign another term with them that works out to about $30/month + GST/PST....

I'm thinking if I add a $25 data plan(500mb) to this retention plan that puts me at at a $55 voice and data plan ($30 voice +$25 data), so should i not get the Iphone for $99?? The requirement to get a $99 Iphone is to sign a 3 year agreement with a voice/data plan of at least $45 which i will be doing... I think I'll call Bell up and ask them if this would work...

[ali123]

500MB with JB iPhone + 3G unrestrictor + skype = awesome.

How much minutes can you get out of skype with 500mb?

[scath]

LOL

If you believe that you're crazy. Just like they claim to be the fastest and largest.

Turn on your Bell Iphone today and try and download and you will see what will happen.


[QUOTE=joey003;9694319]did you miss the part where it said the new hspa+ network covers 93% of cdn population, coverage nearly anywhere that has cdma currently?

[lorax1284]

To the OP: A very thorough post, thanks, I appreciate the effort... but I, like many RFDers, get ENRAGED by hidden fees.

There is no $45 plan. There is a $52.70 plan, etc.

In your post you could state that $7.70 of that fee is as SAF, and explicitly mention that Voice Mail / Call Display will set you back $15 a month more.

Again, the picture of the ice-encrusted SUV.

[alekdigital]

How much minutes can you get out of skype with 500mb?

Considering this discussion:
http://forum.skype.com/index.php?showtopic=32510

Every minute consumes about ~ 0,5 MB of bandwidth (I believe it should be less).
So 500MB should give you at least 1000min if you don't use it for anything else.

[Netcruzer]

I'm wondering how this new 3G HDSPA+ network and phones will work on Bell.

Before, all handsets were CDMA. So, if you buy a new bell iPhone, does that mean you only have voice service in the 3G areas?

How can you use the phone on the old CDMA network in remote areas?

[Aieden]

I'll wait for the DROID from Motorola in about 4 months with Android 2.0

http://gizmodo.com/5396168/motorola-droid-review?skyline=true&s=x

Hurray for a platform that's open sauce.. errr source

[speederd]

Wonder if Bell will have any offers for corporate plan users. I am currently on an awesome corp. plan and don't want to give it up.

250 min
Unlimited nights and weekend (6pm-8am)
Call Display
VM
Unlimited LD to US & Canada
Call Waiting & Forwarding
Conference Calling

$20.00 (include SAF + 911) per/month + Tax
I have a HTC Touch and added unlimited browsing for $7/month.
My monthly cost is only $27 + tax.

[speederd]

I'll wait for the DROID from Motorola in about 4 months with Android 2.0

http://gizmodo.com/5396168/motorola-droid-review?skyline=true&s=x

Hurray for a platform that's open sauce.. errr source

Has it been confirmed that the Droid will be north of the border in 4 months?

[flypretty]

Wonder if Bell will have any offers for corporate plan users. I am currently on an awesome corp. plan and don't want to give it up.

250 min
Unlimited nights and weekend (6pm-8am)
Call Display
VM
Unlimited LD to US & Canada
Call Waiting & Forwarding
Conference Calling

$20.00 (include SAF + 911) per/month + Tax
I have a HTC Touch and added unlimited browsing for $7/month.
My monthly cost is only $27 + tax.


This corp plan is similar to mine, except I have 300 min for $30 and paying $3 for 30 txt msgs a month..$37 and change including tax. This corp plan is from nearly 5 yrs ago that isnt available anymore but I'm looking to get a cheaper one. When did you get this corp plan and is it still available?

[rchun044]

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11/sarahpitre/freezing-rain.jpg

Objectively speaking.... this is hot.... there are tons of people with a cdma carrier that have been dying for the iphone....

[Aieden]

Has it been confirmed that the Droid will be north of the border in 4 months

I was just a guess on the time frame but here is an interesting link about the Droid in Canada

http://www.electronista.com/articles/09/10/24/2nd.moto.droid.works.with.n.amer.hspa/

[TRK9]

I'm wondering how this new 3G HDSPA+ network and phones will work on Bell.

Before, all handsets were CDMA. So, if you buy a new bell iPhone, does that mean you only have voice service in the 3G areas?

How can you use the phone on the old CDMA network in remote areas?

The new 3G+ Bell/TELUS network overlaps the existing CDMA network, so you will always use 3G+ with a new phone, no CDMA.

[darek_dade]

LOL

If you believe that you're crazy. Just like they claim to be the fastest and largest.

Turn on your Bell Iphone today and try and download and you will see what will happen.

I just did. The download speeds are crazy fast.

[alamshahid]

300 Minutes
1000 incoming minutes
Unlimited nights and weekend (6pm-8am)
Call Display
VM
Unlimited LD to US & Canada
Call Waiting & Forwarding
Conference Calling

$20.00 including SAF, 911.
I also have the web browsing for $7.50
So my total cost is around $27 + tax

I'm hoping to get the Iphone with Bell in January, as that's when I would qualify for Upgrade.

[HowEver]

Objectively speaking.... this is hot.... there are tons of people with a cdma carrier that have been dying for the iphone....

A regular price offer is not a deal; neither was that objective or "hot."

[lorax1284]

300 Minutes
1000 incoming minutes
Unlimited nights and weekend (6pm-8am)
Call Display
VM
Unlimited LD to US & Canada
Call Waiting & Forwarding
Conference Calling

$20.00 including SAF, 911.
I also have the web browsing for $7.50
So my total cost is around $27 + tax.

Pray tell, exactly who in the Bell board of directors or executive are you blackmailing, and exactly what is it that you know about them (a predilection for sex with animals perhaps?) where they would give you this deal?

THIS is EXACTLY PROOF of the fact that everyone in the COUNTRY is being RIPPED OFF by the Telcos. They are NOT offering this deal at a "loss" so WHY ISN'T EVERYONE ABLE TO GET THIS KIND OF PRICING?

And I seriously doubt that Bell will let you get the iPhone, keeping this deal, and just adding a data plan to it. At least not in the short term... but your rate plan is proof that perhaps they aren't out to abuse ALL their customers... just MOST of them... so you might be able to leverage your "information" for a good price on a data add-on. :-)

[mau108]

Pray tell, exactly who in the Bell board of directors or executive are you blackmailing, and exactly what is it that you know about them (a predilection for sex with animals perhaps?) where they would give you this deal?

THIS is EXACTLY PROOF of the fact that everyone in the COUNTRY is being RIPPED OFF by the Telcos. They are NOT offering this deal at a "loss" so WHY ISN'T EVERYONE ABLE TO GET THIS KIND OF PRICING?

And I seriously doubt that Bell will let you get the iPhone, keeping this deal, and just adding a data plan to it. At least not in the short term... but your rate plan is proof that perhaps they aren't out to abuse ALL their customers... just MOST of them... so you might be able to leverage your "information" for a good price on a data add-on. :-)

he probably has an HTC touch, i have the same plan except I also have unlimited in coming for the same price.

love my phone, would not trade it for a over rated iphone. If Telus can price match and.or beat what I have and get me on to HSPA I would probably switch but I don't really like any of the new phones out.

[ecgz88]

Updated: Consumer PDA data only price plans (flexible monthly fee)

$30+SAF for 500MB, flexible up to 5GB $85 :D

PM me if you want do new activations

[dealdigger16]

Pray tell, exactly who in the Bell board of directors or executive are you blackmailing, and exactly what is it that you know about them (a predilection for sex with animals perhaps?) where they would give you this deal?

THIS is EXACTLY PROOF of the fact that everyone in the COUNTRY is being RIPPED OFF by the Telcos. They are NOT offering this deal at a "loss" so WHY ISN'T EVERYONE ABLE TO GET THIS KIND OF PRICING?

And I seriously doubt that Bell will let you get the iPhone, keeping this deal, and just adding a data plan to it. At least not in the short term... but your rate plan is proof that perhaps they aren't out to abuse ALL their customers... just MOST of them... so you might be able to leverage your "information" for a good price on a data add-on. :-)

IMHO: You don't need to pin this guy to a wall (or at the very least lay off the accusations of blackmail and hoppin in the sack with animals) just because he happens to have been able to get a hold of a corp plan. Yelling with icy hostility at one guy isn't going to get you or me a $27/month rate plan...now back to the Bell hell debaucle. :)

[bigEfromGP]

IMHO: You don't need to pin this guy to a wall (or at the very least lay off the accusations of blackmail and hoppin in the sack with animals) just because he happens to have been able to get a hold of a corp plan. Yelling with icy hostility at one guy isn't going to get you or me a $27/month rate plan...now back to the Bell hell debaucle. :)

Ummm.... he wasn't insulting the poster or anything; he was sarcastically noting that the other poster's phone plan is such a better deal than what the average Joe gets that he must of had some serious leverage to get it.

[onefive]

300 Minutes
1000 incoming minutes
Unlimited nights and weekend (6pm-8am)
Call Display
VM
Unlimited LD to US & Canada
Call Waiting & Forwarding
Conference Calling

$20.00 including SAF, 911.
I also have the web browsing for $7.50
So my total cost is around $27 + tax

I'm hoping to get the Iphone with Bell in January, as that's when I would qualify for Upgrade.

that sounds like a corporate plan...
i have the exact same plan but with unlimited text instead of 1000 incoming mins comes up to 24.74 all included.

[mingcourt]

with Bell's launch of sim cards, if i get one from Bell, will it work with an unlocked Blackberry 8310 from Rogers?

Thank you in advance.

[fortunekitty500]

with Bell's launch of sim cards, if i get one from Bell, will it work with an unlocked Blackberry 8310 from Rogers?

Thank you in advance.

Afraid not. Your bb8310 is a GSM phone only.

[ShadowVlican]

thread rating says it all

FAIL plan is FAIL

thanks for nothing bell

[djredhat]

Anyone knows if Koodo or Solo (being the cheapo Bell and Telus companies) will be offering data plans?

[djredhat]

Updated: Consumer PDA data only price plans (flexible monthly fee)

$30+SAF for 500MB, flexible up to 5GB $85 :D

PM me if you want do new activations

Is this a contract or monthly?

[oakjefferson]

When did this country move to 3years being a normal plan, let alone with the Iphone where it's mandatory. Ridiculous.

[wysiwyg]

if you want unlock a Bell HSPA phone, Bell can do it for you with a $75 fee[/B]

Let me get this right.... If I buy an iphone from Bell, they will provide me with the legit unlock code for $75? I know that it can be unlocked for free via 3rd party tools, but by getting the code, it means not having to worry about future updates, warranty, etc...

[simms]

Updated: Consumer PDA data only price plans (flexible monthly fee)

$30+SAF for 500MB, flexible up to 5GB $85 :D

PM me if you want do new activations

That's not even a good deal.. There are plans with 250 daytime, WN/WE 8pm, 100 LD, 500MB, 10000text, CID and VVM for $35+SAF.

[Dash]

That's not even a good deal.. There are plans with 250 daytime, WN/WE 8pm, 100 LD, 500MB, 10000text, CID and VVM for $35+SAF.

what plans are these? do they have them for bb?

[djredhat]

That's not even a good deal.. There are plans with 250 daytime, WN/WE 8pm, 100 LD, 500MB, 10000text, CID and VVM for $35+SAF.

How do you get it?

[djredhat]

A side question. Someone said that Robers/Fido won't be allowing tethering starting Jan 1st 2010. How will they find out if I use my iphone as a modem or the apps on my Iphone are generating traffic?

[dirk]

Posted here http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/bell-telus-iphone-plans-announced-808378/3/#post9702169 but this thread is more active so I'll report

My Bell contract is up so I called retentions to see what they could offer. I stated I wanted an iPhone and am evaluating my options but would go to whomever offered the best pricing.

They offered:
My phone, iPhone or other smart phone with data plan
300min that I can share
200min LD
unlimited evening/weekends starting at 6pm
500mb data
unlimited text
call display, voicemail
$45

Wife's phone with no data plan
200min that can be shared
200min LD
1000 sent text/unlimited receive
unlimited evening/weekends starting at 6pm
call display/voicemail
$20

unlimited local & LD between the 2 phones
recurring monthly charges $83.46 + hst and they waive the $35 upgrade fee

I haven't talked to telus or rogers to see what they can offer so I'm not sure if I can work a better deal

[ecgz88]

this offer is from Bell Atlantic not Bell mobility

Posted here http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/bell-telus-iphone-plans-announced-808378/3/#post9702169 but this thread is more active so I'll report

My Bell contract is up so I called retentions to see what they could offer. I stated I wanted an iPhone and am evaluating my options but would go to whomever offered the best pricing.

They offered:
My phone, iPhone or other smart phone with data plan
300min that I can share
200min LD
unlimited evening/weekends starting at 6pm
500mb data
unlimited text
call display, voicemail
$45

Wife's phone with no data plan
200min that can be shared
200min LD
1000 sent text/unlimited receive
unlimited evening/weekends starting at 6pm
call display/voicemail
$20

unlimited local & LD between the 2 phones
recurring monthly charges $83.46 + hst and they waive the $35 upgrade fee

I haven't talked to telus or rogers to see what they can offer so I'm not sure if I can work a better deal

[lorax1284]

IMHO: You don't need to pin this guy to a wall (or at the very least lay off the accusations of blackmail and hoppin in the sack with animals) just because he happens to have been able to get a hold of a corp plan. Yelling with icy hostility at one guy isn't going to get you or me a $27/month rate plan...now back to the Bell hell debaucle. :)

As previous poster noted, I wasn't YELLING at the poster... I'm "railing at the powers that be" at the Telcos that somehow offer individuals (that happen to be part of some "group" called a "corporation") a price that is half or less than that of the average independant citizen... note that the individual user is paying their fee directly, it's not like the 'corporation' is paying the bulk rate for the masses... so all the costs of doing business with individuals (support, billing, acct. mgmt, etc.) is still mostly the same as for individuals... yet this person is given a deal that is actually COMPETITIVE with what is offered in other countries.

And what is the CRTC doing? Reversing all the mandated openness so the Telcos can increase their profits even more. harumph

[johngeush]

do u need to have a data plan with the iphone,

right now i use virgin mobile 100$ a year and have a home phone wondering if i could just get and iphone with a good voice plan and drop my 2 cell

and my work gives me this plan with bell but dont know if i can get it with the iphone:

250 min
unlimited evening weekend (start at 18h)
call display and voice mail
3 way calling
call waiting
long distance 0,10 min in canada and 0,20 in usa

for 20 a month+ 7,7 access fee.

i pay 30 a month for my in line phone and dont use it that much because I'm most of the time at work or at friends place. but if im getting a cell better get an iphone... since i need a new mp3 player (more i need an mp3 player)

soo is it possible to add a dataplan to an existing plan ?

[nosnoop]

A side question. Someone said that Robers/Fido won't be allowing tethering starting Jan 1st 2010. How will they find out if I use my iphone as a modem or the apps on my Iphone are generating traffic?

Yes, the new iPhone firmware allows them to track tethering data separately. But if your phone is jailbroken (not possible for Bell/Telus iPhone, at least not yet), then you don't need to worry. If they start charging for tethering, you can just use 3rd party app such as PDANet or MyWi, and Rogers/Fido would not know if you are using tethering or not.

[salchamp]

if there any reps from bell, i like to ask a question about my plan....PM please..

[ericdraven]

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11/sarahpitre/freezing-rain.jpg


:lol:

[Mad.Whack]

That's not even a good deal.. There are plans with 250 daytime, WN/WE 8pm, 100 LD, 500MB, 10000text, CID and VVM for $35+SAF.

Why are you even posting a user specific retention plan with a load of credits? How does that even compare to a retail plan?

These retail bell plans aren't bad at all. You guys are all just cheap asses like me :|

[vincevoltaire]

Just in case any of you guys are interested in getting Fido to try to "match" the new Bell plans, I phoned a Fido sales rep, and they said that they just got an email saying they will not match for the following reasons:

a) Bell's network is new and they expect that Bell will have a lot of problems in the next year
b) Fido's is per-second billing
c) some other minor Bell-versus-Fido reasons

[Matrixvibe]

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11/sarahpitre/freezing-rain.jpg

nice way to describe it...lol

[ricsad]

This is almost the same as Rogers except you get to be on HSPA network and free wireless at Starbucks. The HSPA network isn't that big of a deal because the iPhone can't even go at 21mbps. Rogers is 7mbps and that's good enough for the iPhone. The difference is if you travel. Bell has HSPA support for almost all cities in Canada. Rogers 7mbps has very little coverage.

About contract vs no contract, it's a better deal if you go for a contract. You get a better plan from Bell if you go on contract. If you want to cancel and switch to another carrier, then all Bell charges you is what you still owe for the phone. They're basically making you buy out the phone as if you never went on contract. This is pretty much the same with most carriers.

[alan]

Has anyone noticed that Smartphone 45 has National Fab 5, but iPhone 45 has local Fab 5.

Everything else is the same?

I contacted Bell and they said iPhone can't use SmartPhone 45, but only iPhone 45? Why is such crappy iPhone punishing discrepancy?

I think Telus is _a little bit_ better, it offers SAF included iPhone 50 plan but comes with voice mail 3. (comparable Bell offering is 45 + 7.70_SAF + 7.00_VMExpress 5msg).

This is RIP OFF! (isn't it?)

[ecgz88]

Smartphone 45 will work for Iphone, ;). the difference is tethering is included for Iphone combo plan and Wifi in Starbucks.


Has anyone noticed that Smartphone 45 has National Fab 5, but iPhone 45 has local Fab 5.

Everything else is the same?

I contacted Bell and they said iPhone can't use SmartPhone 45, but only iPhone 45? Why is such crappy iPhone punishing discrepancy?

I think Telus is _a little bit_ better, it offers SAF included iPhone 50 plan but comes with voice mail 3. (comparable Bell offering is 45 + 7.70_SAF + 7.00_VMExpress 5msg).

This is RIP OFF! (isn't it?)

[alan]

Smartphone 45 will work for Iphone, ;). the difference is tethering is included for Iphone combo plan and Wifi in Starbucks.

Thanks! ecgz88. That makes me feel better.

I already have 5 hours a day at Starbucks (my Sympatico and starbuck card). So unlimited StarBucks WiFi is not very valuable to me.

Tethering is good.

The Bell agent told me I can't purchase iPhone with SmartPhone 45 plan. However, it sounds you can navigate your way through this barrier?

Thanks

Alan

[thepred]

I was wondering if you can stay with Teluses "Talk" plan (unlimited local calls) with an Iphone? I have been with Telus for 8 years and never received a phone from them. After reading this I have this feeling that I am going to try and get a 3GS for $199 and they are going to tell me my talk Halifax plan can't be used on it.

[lolo308]

Hi everyone,

I was waiting for the iphone to come out on Bell for the past couple of weeks. Ordered it yesterday via my corporate plan(plan lets you get new hardware every year.) It arrived today, and, the best part? I confirmed with the Bell people, I get unlimited data for 43$. Stoked! So if you have corporate account deff check it out.

It's still steep but at least it's unlimited!

[audit13]

Hi everyone,

I was waiting for the iphone to come out on Bell for the past couple of weeks. Ordered it yesterday via my corporate plan(plan lets you get new hardware every year.) It arrived today, and, the best part? I confirmed with the Bell people, I get unlimited data for 43$. Stoked! So if you have corporate account deff check it out.

It's still steep but at least it's unlimited!

Is that $43 just for the data? Is a corp voice plan much cheaper than a consumer plan? On a corp plan, do they bill the employer or the subscriber?

[Bastich]

Hi everyone,

I was waiting for the iphone to come out on Bell for the past couple of weeks. Ordered it yesterday via my corporate plan(plan lets you get new hardware every year.) It arrived today, and, the best part? I confirmed with the Bell people, I get unlimited data for 43$. Stoked! So if you have corporate account deff check it out.

It's still steep but at least it's unlimited!

Which version of the phone did you get?

:cool:

[Totoriko]

When did this country move to 3years being a normal plan, let alone with the Iphone where it's mandatory. Ridiculous.

I thought it was standard in Canada for contracts to be 3 years, which is ridiculous obviously.

I was also comparing how much we pay here for an iPhone with contract compared to Europe. It's about twice as much.

Cost here for the cheapest deal is:

$99 (iPhone 3G 8GB), $199 (iPhone 3GS 16GB), and $299 (iPhone 3GS 32GB):
+
Basic package: ($45 + $7.70) x 36 = $1897.20

So it's around $2k just for the old iPhone

[tylerc]

I'm sorry if this has been posted...

I was looking at the iphone plans (this may apply to all plans, but I don't think so) and came across this interesting little bit of info:

Airtime charges (and long distance charges, if applicable) apply (a) for calls you make, from the time you press "Send" until you press "End" or otherwise disconnect your call; and (b) for calls you receive, from the moment the calling party initiates the call, including ring time, until you press "End" or otherwise disconnect the call.

[lolo308]

I got the 16gb 3gs iphone. A friend of mine has the previous generation and is blown away by how much faster mine is :-)

I went to the Bell Website and I found my plan in my Bell profile listed as Unltd Data $60. So I guess the corporate discount is $18 bux and that the $60 unlimited is available to everyone.

[ecgz88]

just go to the Bell store, tell them add 500MB $25 feature on your existing plan, then you do HUG and pay the phone. if they don't do it, ask to speak with their manager :cheesygri

Thanks! ecgz88. That makes me feel better.

I already have 5 hours a day at Starbucks (my Sympatico and starbuck card). So unlimited StarBucks WiFi is not very valuable to me.

Tethering is good.

The Bell agent told me I can't purchase iPhone with SmartPhone 45 plan. However, it sounds you can navigate your way through this barrier?

Thanks

Alan

[ecgz88]

Airtime charges and long distance charges counts is a little different. but normally customer won't aware that

I'm sorry if this has been posted...

I was looking at the iphone plans (this may apply to all plans, but I don't think so) and came across this interesting little bit of info:

Airtime charges (and long distance charges, if applicable) apply (a) for calls you make, from the time you press "Send" until you press "End" or otherwise disconnect your call; and (b) for calls you receive, from the moment the calling party initiates the call, including ring time, until you press "End" or otherwise disconnect the call.

[aingaran]

Airtime charges and long distance charges counts is a little different. but normally customer won't aware that

What happens if someone doesn't answer the phone (ie rings 4-5 times)

[QuadESL63]

Considering this discussion:
http://forum.skype.com/index.php?showtopic=32510

Every minute consumes about ~ 0,5 MB of bandwidth (I believe it should be less).
So 500MB should give you at least 1000min if you don't use it for anything else.

Can you use the Skype app while you are on WiFi?


How can you use the phone on the old CDMA network in remote areas?

Bell Canada says they have HSPA 3G coverage alongside their existing CDMA installations so I guess you get the same coverage already with their new 3G smartphones like your old Bell CDMA phone. We shall see.

However, I wonder if the Bell (and Telus) iPhone can roam on Rogers network or not. Anyone?

And, no iPhone works on CDMA... at least not yet (rumors say Apple is making a dual UMTS/CDMA iPhone for Verizon)

Let me get this right.... If I buy an iphone from Bell, they will provide me with the legit unlock code for $75? I know that it can be unlocked for free via 3rd party tools, but by getting the code, it means not having to worry about future updates, warranty, etc...

Anyone with more details? Thanks! If I can pay $75 to unlock it, hassle free, I will. It will be quite useful when I'm traveling: just pick up a local cheap pay-to-go SIM and I'm set. No need to pay those horrendous roaming charges :D But then I will have to sign up with Bell >:(

[Mad.Whack]

You can't unlock the iPhone for 75$ through bell.

[ecgz88]

$75 unlock donot included Iphone ;)


Anyone with more details? Thanks! If I can pay $75 to unlock it, hassle free, I will. It will be quite useful when I'm traveling: just pick up a local cheap pay-to-go SIM and I'm set. No need to pay those horrendous roaming charges :D But then I will have to sign up with Bell >:(

[Bastich]

The iPhone from Bell for $75 unlockable is not.
:cool:

[nihilist07]

I went to bell today to see when I am eligible for a HUG. I am on a two year plan that ends aug 2010. Guy said I am not able to get anything until Aug 2011 even though my plan ends 2010. Thought that was kinda funny as I am sure that will change when my contracts nears its end.

[drew_alma]

Spoke to Bell yesterday for the sake of seeing what I could get and want to know if this is a good plan or not, though I don't think it is.

My account history with them is since '05 and I now have three accounts, and will be adding one in the next month to bring it up to four.

Anyhow, this is what was offered to me, please comment:

200 daytime minutes
1000 incoming minutes
early 6pm - 8pm calling
voice mail + caller id
100 long distance minutes
250 txt msgs/unlimited incoming
500mb plan
fav5 local only

total = $62 total (including SAF)

I'll be able to get the hardware upgrade as well for $99/$199/$299. I was told by the rep to call even closer to the date of my contract expiring (two of the three I have expire in the next 8 weeks while the third expires in March). He was surprised to find that Telus does not have a SAF anymore while Rogers has reduced their charge; regardless, he wouldn't reduce the $62 by $7.95.

[vnon3luv]

Smart Fab Ten$50 works on the iphone. Ten number nationwide voice and sms 200 voice and Unlimited data on the iphone.

[zoolander]

The new iPhones from Apple/Robelus contain the new bootrom and are currently software unlockable but need to be rebooted with a computer should it reach 0% battery or suffer a crash. They cannot be unlocked by Bell and they should note that.

$75 is a joke, there are a few reputable online CDN unlocking services for a fraction of the price that will unlock your HSDPA capable phone such as:
http://www.mobileincanada.com/?l=en&u=all

... which I personally used for my w810i (not HSDPA usable) during the $5 promo RFD thread.

[salchamp]

does anyone out there have a iphone with bell?

I want to know if you have any signal strength....my iphone is displaying "NO SERVICE"...all of Saturday afternoon and it's flip flopping this morning.

I called tech support, they opened a ticket with engineering, high priority.

im so pissed...no calls..no texts......NO SERVICE....i just want to snap on them!!!

[dirk]

Picked up my 16GB 3GS Friday night and have no problem with voice service although txt messaging did not work right away; rep noted there queue was backed up so it might be awhile until data starts working (strangely data worked right away). The 3G icon switches to wireless when I'm at home however but obviously that is for data as the phone still works.

I would try customer service as from previous experince they sometimes do not get the plans correct when upgrading.

[ecgz88]

what he offer you is wrong,

1000 incoming minutes $10 is not allowed to offer anymore.

Spoke to Bell yesterday for the sake of seeing what I could get and want to know if this is a good plan or not, though I don't think it is.

My account history with them is since '05 and I now have three accounts, and will be adding one in the next month to bring it up to four.

Anyhow, this is what was offered to me, please comment:

200 daytime minutes
1000 incoming minutes
early 6pm - 8pm calling
voice mail + caller id
100 long distance minutes
250 txt msgs/unlimited incoming
500mb plan
fav5 local only

total = $62 total (including SAF)

I'll be able to get the hardware upgrade as well for $99/$199/$299. I was told by the rep to call even closer to the date of my contract expiring (two of the three I have expire in the next 8 weeks while the third expires in March). He was surprised to find that Telus does not have a SAF anymore while Rogers has reduced their charge; regardless, he wouldn't reduce the $62 by $7.95.

[T3NSION]

You can't unlock the iPhone for 75$ through bell.

Do it yourself in 10 mins for free.

[greengrover]

I really don't feel like 500 MB of data is a good enough offer. Did you try asking for more data? Is this an iPhone plan specifically or any smartphone? Seems like you get less bang for your buck on iPhone plans.




Spoke to Bell yesterday for the sake of seeing what I could get and want to know if this is a good plan or not, though I don't think it is.

My account history with them is since '05 and I now have three accounts, and will be adding one in the next month to bring it up to four.

Anyhow, this is what was offered to me, please comment:

200 daytime minutes
1000 incoming minutes
early 6pm - 8pm calling
voice mail + caller id
100 long distance minutes
250 txt msgs/unlimited incoming
500mb plan
fav5 local only

total = $62 total (including SAF)

I'll be able to get the hardware upgrade as well for $99/$199/$299. I was told by the rep to call even closer to the date of my contract expiring (two of the three I have expire in the next 8 weeks while the third expires in March). He was surprised to find that Telus does not have a SAF anymore while Rogers has reduced their charge; regardless, he wouldn't reduce the $62 by $7.95.

[drew_alma]

I really don't feel like 500 MB of data is a good enough offer. Did you try asking for more data? Is this an iPhone plan specifically or any smartphone? Seems like you get less bang for your buck on iPhone plans.

So I called back and got this instead:

unlimited data/email/internet (no tethering)
voice mail (not visual), call display
fav10 nationwide (text and voice)
6pm - 8am (maybe 7am can't remember)
200 daytime mins
300 outgoing texts/unlimited received

$50 +SAF (6.95) & 911.

I took it and feel pretty good about it.

[greengrover]

Now we're talking! That deal looks great! Were you able to get an iPhone on that plan? Did it take a lot of negotiating?




So I called back and got this instead:

unlimited data/email/internet (no tethering)
voice mail (not visual), call display
fav10 nationwide (text and voice)
6pm - 8am (maybe 7am can't remember)
200 daytime mins
300 outgoing texts/unlimited received

$50 +SAF (6.95) & 911.

I took it and feel pretty good about it.

[Angultra]

So I called back and got this instead:

unlimited data/email/internet (no tethering)
voice mail (not visual), call display
fav10 nationwide (text and voice)
6pm - 8am (maybe 7am can't remember)
200 daytime mins
300 outgoing texts/unlimited received

$50 +SAF (6.95) & 911.

I took it and feel pretty good about it.

Wow, didn't know they ever offered unlimited data, I'd be on that in a New York minute. Is that an upgrade too? The OP said they strictly don't do upgrades.

[Jon Lai]

Now we're talking! That deal looks great! Were you able to get an iPhone on that plan? Did it take a lot of negotiating?

I have a feeling he only got that because he has 3 accounts with Bell already...

[speederd]

So I am 1.5 year into my 3 years corporate plan but now I wanted an iPhone. I wanted to keep my awesome corp. plan and just add data plan to it. I went to Square One where there are are two Bell Stores, the first said they got an memo from head office that there are to be no corp. plan on an iphone, any other phone is ok, so they wouldn't do it. I went to the other Bell store and they guy there did it for me without problems.

The 16GB 3GS was $699 - $300 (bell promo) - $150 (my HW upgrade credit) = $249.00

My corp. voice plan is
250mins day
Unlmtd. Nights & Wknds 6pm-8am
Unlmtd. LD to Canada & US
Call Display & VM
Include Sys. Access and 911 fee.

Data ($30 - 20% corp. discount = $24)
1GB of data

Monthly Total = $44 + tax

I think this is a good plan.

[drew_alma]

Now we're talking! That deal looks great! Were you able to get an iPhone on that plan? Did it take a lot of negotiating?

Yes, it is on an iPhone plan. When I originally called, the first rep said that you can't use the iPhone on different smartphone plans, yet when I called again, the rep--maybe because I do have three accounts, who knows--said it was possible. I even confirmed four different times that it was in fact unlimited data for the iPhone.

Honestly, I didn't have to work as hard as I thought I was going to in order to get the plan. I find that negotiating for a better plan always depends on the rep you get.

[drew_alma]

I have a feeling he only got that because he has 3 accounts with Bell already...

I honestly feel that is probably why I got the deal.

Now I have a question for everyone: based on the plan I got do you think I could add unlimited incoming minutes to the fourth account I'm thinking about getting? (for the same price as well).

I just ask because if that was the case, I would probably get rid of my landline, but I'm not sure if that is pushing it too much.

[djredhat]

Smart Fab Ten$50 works on the iphone. Ten number nationwide voice and sms 200 voice and Unlimited data on the iphone.

Are you sure this offer is still on? According to Bell's website, the Fab Ten student plans are only available till Nov 6th:

http://entreprise.bell.ca/shopping/en_CA_ON.Fab-10-Student-35/STUD35.details?tab=1#1

[duch]

So I called back and got this instead:

unlimited data/email/internet (no tethering)
voice mail (not visual), call display
fav10 nationwide (text and voice)
6pm - 8am (maybe 7am can't remember)
200 daytime mins
300 outgoing texts/unlimited received

$50 +SAF (6.95) & 911.

I took it and feel pretty good about it.

I would say that is a good deal. I am new to RFD, but my plan is similar...

I was a subscriber to Bell internet, sat, and cell.. Now cell, and Sat (Internet didn't work out)

My plan is
350 min + 150 bonus min
unl @6
Nationwide 5
unlimited data
visual voice mail
call display
unlimited text
3 way calling ect.

I called in to correct the voicemail (was not visual), and the bell rep said I was not suppose to have unlimited data, because of the iphone. I insisted that it is what the retention agent gave me (1 day before iPhone release), and they did not change my plan. My plan is 61.70 with SAF, 911 Fee, and Taxes all in. I think my plan is decent. There is room for improvement, but for a new customer (Bell sat, phone and internet (within 5 years)) I do not tbink the plan is too bad.

[cyc1120]

I honestly feel that is probably why I got the deal.

Now I have a question for everyone: based on the plan I got do you think I could add unlimited incoming minutes to the fourth account I'm thinking about getting? (for the same price as well).

I just ask because if that was the case, I would probably get rid of my landline, but I'm not sure if that is pushing it too much.

Can't you use Skype instead since you have unlimited data on your plan? :D

[drew_alma]

Can't you use Skype instead since you have unlimited data on your plan? :D

Yeah, I guess this is true but that would involve jailbreaking the iPhone, and I don't really want to do that. From the little I know, doesn't Cydia run background processes that further drain the battery? Please correct me if I'm wrong.

I think I'll still ask for unlimited incoming, heh.

[clvnng]

hey is there some sorta bell hspa sim card????

[flypretty]

So I am 1.5 year into my 3 years corporate plan but now I wanted an iPhone. I wanted to keep my awesome corp. plan and just add data plan to it. I went to Square One where there are are two Bell Stores, the first said they got an memo from head office that there are to be no corp. plan on an iphone, any other phone is ok, so they wouldn't do it. I went to the other Bell store and they guy there did it for me without problems.

The 16GB 3GS was $699 - $300 (bell promo) - $150 (my HW upgrade credit) = $249.00

My corp. voice plan is
250mins day
Unlmtd. Nights & Wknds 6pm-8am
Unlmtd. LD to Canada & US
Call Display & VM
Include Sys. Access and 911 fee.

Data ($30 - 20% corp. discount = $24)
1GB of data

Monthly Total = $44 + tax

I think this is a good plan.

I'm also on a corporate plan..1 yr into my 3 yr contract. I want an iphone as well and keep my existing corp plan. I've had no luck when calling customer service..do i really need to do this in store?

is your corporate plan only $20?? How did you get this 20% corporate discount on data?

who are we supposed to talk to?

how do you speak to retentions when you call customer service? ask for the retentions department or talk to people in hardware upgrade or what?

thanks guys, noob here

[richmak]

hey is there some sorta bell hspa sim card????

All Bell's SIM cards are 3G SIM cards supporting both HSPA and HSPA+.

[richmak]

CDMA and HSPA (3.5G evolution from GSM) are 2 different network technologies. There is currently no handsets offered by Bell to support both technologies at the same time.

I'm wondering how this new 3G HDSPA+ network and phones will work on Bell.

Before, all handsets were CDMA. So, if you buy a new bell iPhone, does that mean you only have voice service in the 3G areas?

How can you use the phone on the old CDMA network in remote areas?

[simms]

Yeah, I guess this is true but that would involve jailbreaking the iPhone, and I don't really want to do that. From the little I know, doesn't Cydia run background processes that further drain the battery? Please correct me if I'm wrong.

I think I'll still ask for unlimited incoming, heh.

Yes, you're wrong. Cydia closes like any other app. You can install/run backgrounder for Skype, but there's no noticeable battery loss with a JB.

[Comiclovers]

Hi,

It is a bit off topic but I would appreciate if someone can help. Can I use a HSDPA phone that bought in Hong Kong under the Bell's new HSPA network? These HSPA, HSDPA and HSUPA terms are so confusing. TIA.

Kenny

[tomtomtom]

Hi,

It is a bit off topic but I would appreciate if someone can help. Can I use a HSDPA phone that bought in Hong Kong under the Bell's new HSPA network? These HSPA, HSDPA and HSUPA terms are so confusing. TIA.

Kenny

No. They run on difference frequency. However, it all depends on what model of phone you buy. If you see 2100mhz 3G as the supporting 3G frequency, NO. The phone needs to have 850 & 1900mhz as 3G band to work here in North America.

These are known as 3.5G - HSDPA, HSUPA and HSPA+.
The "D" stands for Downlink, it means download can reach up to 21Mbps
The "U" stands for Uplink, it means upload can reach up to 5.76Mbps
The "+" means both D & U speed are achieved. on Bell & Telus's network, it can download up to 21Mbps, while uploads up to 5.76Mbps.

If you have a HSPA+ compatible device, it will be backward compatible to either 3G, HSDPA or HSUPA whenever the coverage is available. Fact is, no phone at the moment supports HSPA+, except data cards.

If this helps you understand a little.

[ecgz88]

you can check here to know if your phone is compatible for sure :cheesygri

http://www.bell.ca/support/PrsCSrvWls_COAM.page

Hi,

It is a bit off topic but I would appreciate if someone can help. Can I use a HSDPA phone that bought in Hong Kong under the Bell's new HSPA network? These HSPA, HSDPA and HSUPA terms are so confusing. TIA.

Kenny

[vse]

this a good deal or bad
200min
500meg
e/w 6pm
caller id
fab5
vm20
250text/inc unl

70$+tax

i am kinda unsure

[Rudy]

this a good deal or bad
200min
500meg
e/w 6pm
caller id
fab5
vm20
250text/inc unl

70$+tax

i am kinda unsure
sounds kinda high to me...

[drew_alma]

sounds kinda high to me...

I agree. It is kind of high, especially for only 500mb of data. Ask for 1gb and to bring it down to $60. From what I hear as well, Bell is dropping their SAF on the 20th of November (to coincide with Telus and Rogers' reduced equivalent GRR--Government Regulatory Recovery--fee). I suggest maybe waiting 'till then to at least see if the SAF is dropped? If it's just a rumour then you would not have wasted a lot of time in waiting since Friday is coming up quick.

Also, with regards to your plan, ask for nationwide calling in your fav5.

[vse]

ya i am thorn atm because i just joined them (i got the phone as a gift) and my friend picked bell (he had an account with them) i still have like 5-6 days, i used maybe 10min and like 6meg of data so i think i can still return the whole thing (i already had to return the phone 2 days ago because it was broken), my previous phone was with telus and the contract finished a few weeks ago.

[rcheung13]

Are you sure this offer is still on? According to Bell's website, the Fab Ten student plans are only available till Nov 6th:

http://entreprise.bell.ca/shopping/en_CA_ON.Fab-10-Student-35/STUD35.details?tab=1#1

I also noticed the SAF is 8.95?!

[aliveat25]

If anyone hasn't noticed yet, they've increased the lowest plan rate from $45/month to $50/month today, but it looks like Bell has dropped their system access fee. So really, not a big difference.

[WestMallDUDE]

This is on the TELUS 3G network.
iPhone 3Gs for $99 on a 3 year contract.
$55 per month gets me: ($10 voice +45 Data Add On)
2GB Data (including tethering which acts as wi-fi for your laptop)
250 Daytime minutes
Unlimited Evenings and Weekends

Can you send me a link to an example of a better deal with any other provider?