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BestOffer

Sep 20th, 2009, 03:50 PM

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Verbatim BLU-RAY BD-R 4X 25GB Branded 10PACK Spindle Box (http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=36724&vpn=96769&affiliateid=4763124&promoid=1021)

Is this the "best" deal?

gostinger

Sep 20th, 2009, 03:56 PM

CFRTim

Sep 20th, 2009, 04:09 PM

What is BB-R?

mimmmcgill

Sep 20th, 2009, 04:22 PM

BB-R --> BestBuy -Rom

Viper98

Sep 20th, 2009, 04:39 PM

I don't really see any use in buying these. I have 5 BD-R SL and a BD-RW DL and don't use them

dell

Sep 20th, 2009, 04:45 PM

How long does it take to burn a full 25 gigs at 4x?

kmchow

Sep 20th, 2009, 04:59 PM

I don't really see any use in buying these. I have 5 BD-R SL and a BD-RW DL and don't use them

For those creating/burning home videos or need lotsa data storage, this is probably nice to have. For those wanting to store copyrighted stuff, probably less attractive. Though writers have gone as low as $200 sometimes

cookie15

Sep 20th, 2009, 05:04 PM

S_G

Sep 20th, 2009, 05:06 PM

Good deal. I've seen RiData this low, but not Verbatim.

Super strokey

Sep 20th, 2009, 05:07 PM

kmchow

Sep 20th, 2009, 05:17 PM

Blu rays are essential invincible too compared to other methods of data storage.
How so? Blu Rays are so new that it's hard to say how durable they are. I think there's a good idea of CD and DVDs hold up over time.

Paranoidandroid

Sep 20th, 2009, 05:48 PM

it begins..

mahjongmaniac

Sep 20th, 2009, 06:06 PM

BB-R --> BestBuy -Rom

no... BestBuy recordable :D

akito925

Sep 20th, 2009, 07:14 PM

Super strokey

Sep 20th, 2009, 07:33 PM

How so? Blu Rays are so new that it's hard to say how durable they are. I think there's a good idea of CD and DVDs hold up over time.

I was referring to their physical strength. Its pretty hard to scratch a blu ray disc.

Super strokey

Sep 20th, 2009, 07:34 PM

Remember 4x Bluray is different than 4x DVD. Also, I seem to be running low on media space nowadays with all the HD mkv's. DVD's just aren't cutting it.

Will buy a BR burner when it hits under $100 and when media gets at least under $2.

Have they said what the max speed is going to be for blu rays? I know that DVD's were maxed at about 20x with a few drives reaching 22x and we knew that is would be the max a long time ago but do we know the same wiht blu ray burners?

thriftynorge

Sep 20th, 2009, 07:35 PM

and $8 shipping for those of us without a local NCIX. You know, the other 86+% of the country outside of BC.

Thanks OP--just hate topic headings without a retailer attached and no mention of shipping.

mahjongmaniac

Sep 20th, 2009, 07:40 PM

Have they said what the max speed is going to be for blu rays? I know that DVD's were maxed at about 20x with a few drives reaching 22x and we knew that is would be the max a long time ago but do we know the same wiht blu ray burners?

there are 20/22X drives these days but does anyone actually overspeed the 16X blank dvds to 20X or 22X max?

personally i've never bothered trying...

Super strokey

Sep 20th, 2009, 07:44 PM

there are 20/22X drives these days but does anyone actually overspeed the 16X blank dvds to 20X or 22X max?

personally i've never bothered trying...

I have a couple times but thats it. Usually just let it go the same speed

JCLJCL

Sep 20th, 2009, 09:40 PM

Blu-ray Recordable. These are single-layered, 25 gb. If you've shot home videos in HD and they are long (>35 minutes), they might fit into these. Otherwise, you can burn HD quality videos in regular DVD-R's using AVCHD format.

These are good prices, though.

BestOffer

Sep 20th, 2009, 09:43 PM

there are 20/22X drives these days but does anyone actually overspeed the 16X blank dvds to 20X or 22X max?

personally i've never bothered trying...

yep the Philips DVDs from FS can burn at 20x even thou 16x is listed on the package;

qwqweee

Sep 20th, 2009, 10:31 PM

I 100% wish i had some dual layer blu rays and a burner. I have a few hundred gigs of videos ive taken of my kid i would love to safe gaurd a third way. Blu rays are essential invincible too compared to other methods of data storage.

Optical media is a poor way to store data since it degrades over time. Especially writable optical media.

Also consider that you can get a reliable 1TB harddrive for about $80 (not counting tax and shipping). That means for hard drive space you pay about 8 cents per gigabyte, whereas with this "deal" you are paying 14 cents per gigabyte.

Are the bluray discs worth the price premium? I guess that is for you to decide; however, optical media is less reliable over time. It is not rewritable. It is much slower to read and write. It takes up more physical space (more clutter on your shelves). It is more tedious to access since you have to swap discs every 25GB. It will cause wasted space at the end of the disc where nothing exactly fits. Also you will only be able to access your data on a computer equipped with a bluray drive, which is far from standard, whereas pretty much all computers have SATA and you can also put a hard drive in an enclosure for USB2, firewire, or even USB3 support in the future.

I can't imagine why anyone would want to suffer all the detriments of BD-R when there are no positives. Optical media in the past was worth the trouble simply due to rock-bottom prices. Nowadays with magnetic storage so low in cost and still dropping optical media has essentially been obsoleted.

nicolaim

Sep 20th, 2009, 11:14 PM

Optical media is a poor way to store data since it degrades over time. Especially writable optical media.

Also consider that you can get a reliable 1TB harddrive for about $80 (not counting tax and shipping). That means for hard drive space you pay about 8 cents per gigabyte, whereas with this "deal" you are paying 14 cents per gigabyte.

Are the bluray discs worth the price premium? I guess that is for you to decide; however, optical media is less reliable over time. It is not rewritable. It is much slower to read and write. It takes up more physical space (more clutter on your shelves). It is more tedious to access since you have to swap discs every 25GB. It will cause wasted space at the end of the disc where nothing exactly fits. Also you will only be able to access your data on a computer equipped with a bluray drive, which is far from standard, whereas pretty much all computers have SATA and you can also put a hard drive in an enclosure for USB2, firewire, or even USB3 support in the future.

I can't imagine why anyone would want to suffer all the detriments of BD-R when there are no positives. Optical media in the past was worth the trouble simply due to rock-bottom prices. Nowadays with magnetic storage so low in cost and still dropping optical media has essentially been obsoleted.

Well put.

MeiserT

Sep 20th, 2009, 11:25 PM

Thanks OP..

Going to order some. Scratch that. After rebate price.. I loathe rebates. :(

Will go great with my newly aquired open box LG BH08-LS20 from FS for $90. :)

(haggled it down from $150, :lol: )

akito925

Sep 20th, 2009, 11:28 PM

Thanks OP..

Going to order some.

Will go great with my newly aquired open box LG BH08-LS20 from FS for $90. :)

lucky

everyone should do that more often, buy the Blu-ray burner at best buy or fs and return it.

MeiserT

Sep 20th, 2009, 11:33 PM

lucky

everyone should do that more often, buy the Blu-ray burner at best buy or fs and return it.

Helps to go between 8:30pm and 9pm when only the kids are running the place. :lol:

The rep thought it was just a player and not a burner. No box, no cables, just the drive. Burnt one bluray already with it. So I know it works. (took 45 minutes on a 2x bluray blank).

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Even at reg price. NCIX is $25 cheaper than BB or FS on the 10 pack.

BestOffer

Sep 21st, 2009, 02:37 AM

mahjongmaniac

Sep 21st, 2009, 06:21 AM

yep the Philips DVDs from FS can burn at 20x even thou 16x is listed on the package;

but the time diff. needed to complete the burn is virtually insignificant, right?

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Optical media is a poor way to store data since it degrades over time. Especially writable optical media.

Also consider that you can get a reliable 1TB harddrive for about $80 (not counting tax and shipping). That means for hard drive space you pay about 8 cents per gigabyte, whereas with this "deal" you are paying 14 cents per gigabyte.

Are the bluray discs worth the price premium? I guess that is for you to decide; however, optical media is less reliable over time. It is not rewritable. It is much slower to read and write. It takes up more physical space (more clutter on your shelves). It is more tedious to access since you have to swap discs every 25GB. It will cause wasted space at the end of the disc where nothing exactly fits. Also you will only be able to access your data on a computer equipped with a bluray drive, which is far from standard, whereas pretty much all computers have SATA and you can also put a hard drive in an enclosure for USB2, firewire, or even USB3 support in the future.

I can't imagine why anyone would want to suffer all the detriments of BD-R when there are no positives. Optical media in the past was worth the trouble simply due to rock-bottom prices. Nowadays with magnetic storage so low in cost and still dropping optical media has essentially been obsoleted.

i agree w/ most of what you're saying but i don't think optical media is quite close to being obsolete yet...
i still use blank cds to burn mp3s for the car deck (others who have the moola to afford the dvd player decks would use blank dvds i'd assume)

rabbit

Sep 21st, 2009, 06:28 AM

> I can't imagine why anyone would want to suffer all the detriments of BD-R when there are no positives.

Sure, I see people carrying around HDDs in their pocket all the time. No need for optical discs at all.

I do agree that at current prices, BD-R isn't worth it.

MeiserT

Sep 21st, 2009, 01:02 PM

what rebate? thats an instant rebate

Hmm, so it is.

I see rebate, I roll my eyes otherwise.

My bad, :D

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Ordering 2 packs. (I have my uses).

753951

Sep 21st, 2009, 08:52 PM

Anyone tried to price match at Future Shop? http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?sku_id=0665000FS10127908

BestOffer

Sep 21st, 2009, 09:38 PM

but the time diff. needed to complete the burn is virtually insignificant, right?

i don't watch as it burn, so don't know

Ruciz

Sep 21st, 2009, 10:34 PM

Shipping kills it at a dollar a disc, be nice if it was 10 dollars express for 5 packs... The quality seems fair across the board tho from what I have seen so far, so usually best bang for the buck wins.

As for writing them, they burn in around 20 minutes at 4x. Most burners can write faster than the rated 4x though, some up to 8x, which would be ~10 min a burn if your drive got a nice wide bus to provide the data that fast. The pioneer at newegg is like $215, wait for a free shipping time and bam.. Works great with everything

BD-Rebuilder is great for making movies fit. MultiAVCHD is a great proggy for muxing those MKVs into a BD-R with a decent menu.

Still, if you got the power a TB drive is a LOT cheaper than the equivalent 40 BD-R's needed to hold the same space. (931GB TB formatted space into 23.4GB limit BD25 disc) Plus they are much easier if you are looking for movie storage, Make the ISO and mount the image... A library at your fingertips.

Me-262

Sep 21st, 2009, 10:41 PM

Can you buy an external BR burner to plug into a laptop ?

BestOffer

Sep 22nd, 2009, 01:35 AM

Can you buy an external BR burner to plug into a laptop ?

yes why not? my friend who has a bluray burner from the LG laptop, and a samsung external slim dvd writer, he unscrew the dvd writer and put in his laptop bluray writer, and make the bd writer now external and portable.

mahjongmaniac

Sep 22nd, 2009, 03:35 AM

i don't watch as it burn, so don't know

if you use programs like Nero, once it's done burning, the GUI should have some indication of how long the burn process took

i'm sure many other burning s/w apps are the same

mucat

Sep 22nd, 2009, 11:57 AM

if you use programs like Nero, once it's done burning, the GUI should have some indication of how long the burn process took

i'm sure many other burning s/w apps are the same

It took almost an hour to burn a whole disc on mine.
However, the capacity is nice, just replaced a whole stack of DVDs.

rabbit

Sep 22nd, 2009, 05:54 PM

Some answers to questions @ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_Disc_recordable

- theoretical limit = 12x
- @ 4x, 17.5MB/s, it takes about 24min for single layer

BestOffer

Sep 22nd, 2009, 07:22 PM

if you use programs like Nero, once it's done burning, the GUI should have some indication of how long the burn process took

i'm sure many other burning s/w apps are the same

never pay attention to those :evil: