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napoleon1769
Sep 19th, 2009, 08:53 PM
$429.99 at Costco. Full skid available. Brand new item so no display yet.

German made
Telescopic Wand
12 Stage Filtration
Hepa Certified
Charcoal Filter
Change Filter Indicator
6 Level Power Adjustment

scv
Sep 19th, 2009, 09:19 PM
Nice find, Thanks OP. This looks to be a good price for a Miele and our present Vacuum is dying.

sixer
Sep 19th, 2009, 09:46 PM
At that price, it's an entry level Miele engineered in Germany but made in China. Only an authorized dealer sells the Miele's which are made in Germany and there more money then that.

napoleon1769
Sep 19th, 2009, 10:01 PM
The sign says otherwise. Word by word.

Prof
Sep 19th, 2009, 10:31 PM
At that price, it's an entry level Miele engineered in Germany but made in China. Only an authorized dealer sells the Miele's which are made in Germany and there more money then that.

Worth checking out as our experience is different. We bought a S7 Miele last month from Costco. It is a German made model. Had a canister been available, we would have purchased it instead of the upright (though we're very happy with our purchase now). The same series, with only one difference was $300 more at Sears (http://www.sears.ca/gp/product/B002IM9DLU/sr=1-1/qid=1253413790/ref=sr_1_1/175-1312311-6410412?ie=UTF8&searsBrand=core&mqnodeid=APS). After our third Kenmore died less than 2 years from new, we said no more Sears and happend to find the Miele on the shelf at Costco. Compared to a Dyson, it is better built having a substantial feel and smooth, quality operation. Add the 5/7 year warranty and it makes for a great buy.

Nitol
Sep 19th, 2009, 10:51 PM
Is this a S5 series? Callisto or Capricorn?

da1nonly_jsa
Sep 21st, 2009, 06:05 PM
link? model?

i was just about to put my order through for a refurb dyson dc21...

how does this compare? anybody with experiences with both vacs...

99bimmer
Sep 21st, 2009, 06:22 PM
I paid about $900 for my Miele and it's worth every cent.

MikeyMadness
Sep 21st, 2009, 06:24 PM
Here's an annoying guy doing a demo of both.

Youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXA0N0V2uOQ)

I've never used a Dyson so I can't speak for it, but I did get my mother a Miele last Christmas. Excellent vacuum and very quiet after all those years of a Viking and Kenmore...

kellidotca
Sep 21st, 2009, 06:37 PM
that guy doesn't "personally" want to breathe in any particles, but eating an excessive amount of food seems to be okay.

qafyg
Sep 21st, 2009, 06:41 PM
We bought a Miele Hermes canister vacuum last winter and it's awesome. Cleans very well, long retractable power cord, super easy to maneuver and most importantly extremely quiet. Paid 600$ for it and would definitely buy another one.

Wassup Doc
Sep 21st, 2009, 06:46 PM
I have the same vacuum as the one costco is selling. It is a S4 model and it is made in Germany. It only comes with a regular filter but it can be upgraded to a hepa filter.

82
Sep 21st, 2009, 07:07 PM
how much is the filter/bag replacement? does it come with powered roller brush?

atomiton
Sep 21st, 2009, 07:45 PM
I have the Mid-size BlueStar. It's super quiet. all the S5 series have the same motor, the difference will be in the accessories, power mini-brush (great for pet hair or cars), extended hose (for ease of use on stairs) Suction control on the wand, more comfortable grip etc. etc.

The S4 is a less powerful motor. The S4 doesn't have a power head. Or it has a battery powered one.

The Miele we have is so quiet that we can use it at 11PM without neighbours hearing or complaining. We can also have a regular conversation over it. It's wonderful.

Anyway, I think ours has its parts made in Germany, assembled in China... or something like that.

I think only the top of the line ones are made in Germany. If you are big on Made in Germany, go for a Sebo. Excellent Vacuums, tho a bit more expensive and 100% still made in Germany. Their airbelt Vacuums are lovely.

Not to hi-jack the thread, but anyway.

I'm interested to know which model the Costco one is. I'm secretly hoping the S4, so my wife won't be upset that we could've saved a bit by getting a Miele now.

Brrr
Sep 21st, 2009, 09:14 PM
We bought a Miele Hermes canister vacuum last winter and it's awesome. Cleans very well, long retractable power cord, super easy to maneuver and most importantly extremely quiet. Paid 600$ for it and would definitely buy another one.

I have recently purchased one of these as well. My old Kenmore finally bit the dust (!) after 10 years. Just as well...I was looking for an excuse to get a Miele.

I just looked at my vacuum, and it's made in Germany. As some have stated, my understanding is the S5 series, sold at Canadian Tire and Sears, (and maybe Costco when we get more details), are assembled in China. I was just at my Costco today, and didn't see any (Moncton).

If you check the specs on the miele site, all the models have the same motor specs. Differences are in the controls, handle, dust bag size, attachments.

I had reservations about buying the Miele solely because of the smaller bag size, but I vaccum once a week my 2500 sq ft house, and after 3 months, the bag is about 1/3 full.

Still, I would seriously consider any Miele over any Dyson. The S4 series is actually cheaper than the "Yellowstar" and "Bluestar" models, and it's made in Germany.

82
Sep 21st, 2009, 11:46 PM
I am interested in the Miele too but the bag only fill 1/3 full after 3 months? Does it really suck well? How much is the replacement?

I have recently purchased one of these as well. My old Kenmore finally bit the dust (!) after 10 years. Just as well...I was looking for an excuse to get a Miele.

I just looked at my vacuum, and it's made in Germany. As some have stated, my understanding is the S5 series, sold at Canadian Tire and Sears, (and maybe Costco when we get more details), are assembled in China. I was just at my Costco today, and didn't see any (Moncton).

If you check the specs on the miele site, all the models have the same motor specs. Differences are in the controls, handle, dust bag size, attachments.

I had reservations about buying the Miele solely because of the smaller bag size, but I vaccum once a week my 2500 sq ft house, and after 3 months, the bag is about 1/3 full.

Still, I would seriously consider any Miele over any Dyson. The S4 series is actually cheaper than the "Yellowstar" and "Bluestar" models, and it's made in Germany.

atomiton
Sep 22nd, 2009, 07:05 PM
Still, I would seriously consider any Miele over any Dyson. The S4 series is actually cheaper than the "Yellowstar" and "Bluestar" models, and it's made in Germany.

It's cheaper because the bag is 3.5L (instead of 4.5L). In addition, the S4 doesn't have a powerhead. It has a turbohead. This means that the suction drives the beater. It's not electrically driven. It's not bad, but if you have anything other than very short pile, it won't work well.

The BlueStar and YellowStar are S5s, assembled in China. It says "Assembled in China of German parts" on the sticker. I almost went with a SEBO because of that... but my wife preferred the Miele as it was "cuter"

We have a small place, 1000 sq ft. and we haven't replaced in 9 months. A box of 5 bags are about $20. Though, when these bags are done, I'll be upgrading to the HEPA filter.

danno567
Sep 22nd, 2009, 07:15 PM
We have a red velvet model. Worth every cent. Buy the costco model and enjoy a great brand and a great return policy. Would not buy any other vacuum.

Brrr
Sep 22nd, 2009, 07:41 PM
I am interested in the Miele too but the bag only fill 1/3 full after 3 months? Does it really suck well? How much is the replacement?

This thing has better suction than my previous top of the line Kenmore, and the Kenmore's are made by Panasonic (the expensive ones). 6 different levels of power. It gets EVERYTHING, including cat hair off the fabric sofa.

A pack of 4 bags is around $20, and now Sears carries them.

Again, my worry was the small size of the bag, but even with the OCD-level of vacuuming I do, I can live with using 2-3 bags a year in exchange for the outstanding performance of this vacuum.

I also got the small suction-powered powerhead for upholstery, and, in my opinion, works better than the small a/c powered powerhead that I got for the Kenmore. It's really all in the amount of suction that the unit generates, and this thing sucks about twice as much as the Kenmore.

napoleon1769
Sep 22nd, 2009, 07:43 PM
So is this the powerbrush or the turbobrush? Cause it says it includes a bonus brush.

Wassup Doc
Sep 22nd, 2009, 09:07 PM
The package at costco comes with a STB205 turbobrush and a STB101 hand brush. Both are air driven. Here is the model they are selling.
http://www.miele.ca/miele/canada/vacuums/vac_s4_tech_sterling.asp
It also comes with 4 extra vacuum bags inside.

SaraLee
Sep 22nd, 2009, 10:22 PM
Do you mean they are selling the Special Edition Sterling? This is quite tempting.

The package at costco comes with a STB205 turbobrush and a STB101 hand brush. Both are air driven. Here is the model they are selling.
http://www.miele.ca/miele/canada/vacuums/vac_s4_tech_sterling.asp
It also comes with 4 extra vacuum bags inside.

SaraLee
Sep 22nd, 2009, 10:46 PM
Will the Miele model from Costco quality for the 5-year Warranty promotion for free?

http://www.miele.ca/miele/canada/promotions.asp

Scroll to bottom of page.

Justpete
Sep 23rd, 2009, 12:04 AM
Do you mean they are selling the Special Edition Sterling? This is quite tempting.

Agreed. Does is look as sweet as that one in the link?

Keigotw
Sep 23rd, 2009, 12:23 AM
is it in all costco location??

rain
Sep 23rd, 2009, 02:31 AM
Are all miele vacuums with bags? They don't come in canisters designs?

napoleon1769
Sep 23rd, 2009, 03:05 AM
If it's air driven it's not powerful right?

danno567
Sep 23rd, 2009, 08:53 AM
about the warranty details

promotion applies to all Miele vacuums (excludes Miele Powerhouse models S183/S184) purchased between July 1 and September 30, 2009 at an authorized Miele floor care dealer. Extended warranty adds 4 years to the standard Miele 1-year warranty to equal 5 years . “Miele” and the Miele logo are registered trademarks of Miele & Cie. KG. © 2008 Miele Limited.

82
Sep 23rd, 2009, 11:47 AM
why do you have to wait to finish the bags before upgrade to HEPA? The HEPA filter sold separately, right?

The one sold by Sears comes with HEPA dust bags, is this what you mean?

It's cheaper because the bag is 3.5L (instead of 4.5L). In addition, the S4 doesn't have a powerhead. It has a turbohead. This means that the suction drives the beater. It's not electrically driven. It's not bad, but if you have anything other than very short pile, it won't work well.

The BlueStar and YellowStar are S5s, assembled in China. It says "Assembled in China of German parts" on the sticker. I almost went with a SEBO because of that... but my wife preferred the Miele as it was "cuter"

We have a small place, 1000 sq ft. and we haven't replaced in 9 months. A box of 5 bags are about $20. Though, when these bags are done, I'll be upgrading to the HEPA filter.

pinkbunni
Sep 23rd, 2009, 12:24 PM
This is a pretty good deal! Anyone saw it in a Costco store? If yes - where?
I don't see the item on sale online.

vv12
Sep 23rd, 2009, 12:59 PM
How this comparing to a central vac? thanks for the input first.

Justpete
Sep 23rd, 2009, 02:09 PM
Checked online, called local Costco.. local store doesn't have any, nor can I find it online.

82
Sep 23rd, 2009, 02:28 PM
Central vac is good but in winter it will create negative pressure in your house if you install outside. If you install inside the house, there is not much advantage as you blow dust particle back in your house.

Cheaper central vac is not very portable with the long hose. Very time consuming to setup and put it back.

How this comparing to a central vac? thanks for the input first.

vv12
Sep 24th, 2009, 01:03 PM
Central vac is good but in winter it will create negative pressure in your house if you install outside. If you install inside the house, there is not much advantage as you blow dust particle back in your house.

Cheaper central vac is not very portable with the long hose. Very time consuming to setup and put it back.

Thx. We have no pets, house hardwood throughout, might be better off getting a lightweight by powerful canister instead.

Torell
Sep 24th, 2009, 09:09 PM
thanks op, been looking for a good price on the miele s4 for awhile and this was the limited edition too!

got back from the scarborough costco because i called etobicoke and they had none. mississauga had 16.

here are some pics

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v626/torell/IMG00077.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v626/torell/IMG00078.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v626/torell/IMG00080.jpg

super light, feels like nothing.
inside the box, you get the turbo brush, the hand tool, some crevice attachments, 4 extra bags, comes with one bag, the air filter (not HEPA) and the parquet tool

local miele dealer is selling for $549 with no extra brushes, just the one that comes with it, was gonna throw in the bags at no cost but couldn't go as low as the costco price... looks like this is a hot deal, even hotter when costco discounts them even more to move the product out of the warehouses

Meridian
Sep 24th, 2009, 10:25 PM
thanks op, been looking for a good price on the miele s4 for awhile and this was the limited edition too!

got back from the scarborough costco because i called etobicoke and they had none. mississauga had 16.

super light, feels like nothing.
inside the box, you get the turbo brush, the hand tool, some crevice attachments, 4 extra bags, comes with one bag, the air filter (not HEPA) and the parquet tool

local miele dealer is selling for $549 with no extra brushes, just the one that comes with it, was gonna throw in the bags at no cost but couldn't go as low as the costco price... looks like this is a hot deal, even hotter when costco discounts them even more to move the product out of the warehouses

I just picked one up from the Scarborough location too. Your post made me feel better as I had no idea they retail for $550 (and w/o the bonus brush). Amazon.com sells it for $400US. It actually comes with 6 bags total... 1 in the vacuum, 1 in an enevelope, and 4 in a box.

I emailed customer care to see if we can take advantage of the promotional 5yr extended warranty.

Anyone know what makes this a "limited" edition? Is it the colour?

da1nonly_jsa
Sep 24th, 2009, 11:44 PM
is the costco s4 part of the galaxy series s4210???

i read this review
http://products.howstuffworks.com/miele-s4-galaxy-series-s4210-compact-canister-review.htm

sounds like a decent vacuum but not really strong on thick carpets...

Justpete
Sep 25th, 2009, 10:07 AM
I just picked one up from the Scarborough location too. Your post made me feel better as I had no idea they retail for $550 (and w/o the bonus brush). Amazon.com sells it for $400US. It actually comes with 6 bags total... 1 in the vacuum, 1 in an enevelope, and 4 in a box.

I emailed customer care to see if we can take advantage of the promotional 5yr extended warranty.

Anyone know what makes this a "limited" edition? Is it the colour?

Is it the limited edition? Are the metal parts Chrome, or plastic? Are they shiney or kind of a dull grey? The pictures of the limited edition on the website seem to be a Chrome metallic material. In the pictures above, it seems to be a dull grey plastic material... but it could have just been the lighting.

Between the link to the special edition posted earlier, and the pictures above, they seem to be quite different.

And yes, I think it's the colour and the materials it's build with.

Torell
Sep 25th, 2009, 12:58 PM
is the costco s4 part of the galaxy series s4210???

i read this review
http://products.howstuffworks.com/miele-s4-galaxy-series-s4210-compact-canister-review.htm

sounds like a decent vacuum but not really strong on thick carpets...

from what i understand, it belongs in the s4 series, the differences between the different s4 vacuums are the control features on the canister and the different attachments. i believe the motor remains the same. so you get the super clean filter vs hepa filter, telescoping wand vs non telescoping, the brush etc. you get the idea

the limited probably means it has a few more things than the others, mind you i didn't check.

Is it the limited edition? Are the metal parts Chrome, or plastic? Are they shiney or kind of a dull grey? The pictures of the limited edition on the website seem to be a Chrome metallic material. In the pictures above, it seems to be a dull grey plastic material... but it could have just been the lighting.

Between the link to the special edition posted earlier, and the pictures above, they seem to be quite different.

And yes, I think it's the colour and the materials it's build with.

where on the website do you see that they are chrome metallic?

"Steel Blue Metallic" refers to the colour not the material

Justpete
Sep 25th, 2009, 01:04 PM
where on the website do you see that they are chrome metallic?

"Steel Blue Metallic" refers to the colour not the material

This one

http://www.miele.ca/miele/canada/vacuums/vac_s4_tech_sterling.asp

looks a great deal different from the picture posted above...

Torell
Sep 25th, 2009, 03:07 PM
This one

http://www.miele.ca/miele/canada/vacuums/vac_s4_tech_sterling.asp

looks a great deal different from the picture posted above...

oh, you mean the professionally taken, highly photoshopped product photograph used for marketing purposes...

Justpete
Sep 25th, 2009, 11:55 PM
oh, you mean the professionally taken, highly photoshopped product photograph used for marketing purposes...

Thanks tips.

They look barely alike. The actual photograph may have just been taken at a bad angle.

Meridian
Sep 26th, 2009, 12:14 AM
Is it the limited edition? Are the metal parts Chrome, or plastic? Are they shiney or kind of a dull grey? The pictures of the limited edition on the website seem to be a Chrome metallic material. In the pictures above, it seems to be a dull grey plastic material... but it could have just been the lighting.

Between the link to the special edition posted earlier, and the pictures above, they seem to be quite different.

And yes, I think it's the colour and the materials it's build with.

The Costco one is limited edition. Colour is "Steel Blue Metallic". Material is plastic. It is the same vacuum as the website. You're right that the actual vacuum looks quite dull when compared to the website. It was a bit disappointing in that respect. However, it's still a nice looking unit.

The promotional 5yr warranty applies to Costco making this a truly sweet deal! Below is their response to my inquiry...

Good afternoon,

Thank you again for taking the time to write and your interest in Miele.

If your Miele vacuum was purchased within Jan 01 2009 and Sept 30th 2009
in Canada, it automatically comes with a 5 years warranty. (Excludes Miele
Powerhouse models S183/S184) We do not send out any warranty certificate.

It?s very important to register your vacuum on line @ www.miele.ca . Keep
your receipt for future references.

Once again, we appreciate your correspondence with us, and urge you to
contact us again in the event of further questions, concerns, or comments
you may have.
Sincerely,



Customer Contact Centre
Centre de Contact
Miele Limited
Headquarters and Showroom
161 Four Valley Drive
Vaughan, ON L4K 4V8

Justpete
Sep 26th, 2009, 01:05 AM
You're right that the actual vacuum looks quite dull when compared to the website. It was a bit disappointing in that respect.

Thanks. You saved me a trip and $400!!

(I'm big on aesthetics)

napoleon1769
Sep 26th, 2009, 02:58 AM
I thought that Miele have 7 year warranties?

Meridian
Sep 26th, 2009, 11:07 AM
I thought that Miele have 7 year warranties?

It depends on the product. I was surprised their vacuums only have 1 yr parts & labour. Usually Miele has excellent warranties. The promotion extends the warranty to 5yrs parts & labour.

akz
Sep 26th, 2009, 01:19 PM
how does this compare with the dyson refurb thread? specifically the DC21

Eyeman
Sep 26th, 2009, 04:59 PM
I thought that Miele have 7 year warranties?

The motor is always 7. Everything else is 5 during their promo. However, the warranty is much less on a few bottom end models

Eyeman
Sep 26th, 2009, 05:16 PM
I have recently purchased one of these as well. My old Kenmore finally bit the dust (!) after 10 years. Just as well...I was looking for an excuse to get a Miele.

I just looked at my vacuum, and it's made in Germany. As some have stated, my understanding is the S5 series, sold at Canadian Tire and Sears, (and maybe Costco when we get more details), are assembled in China. I was just at my Costco today, and didn't see any (Moncton).

If you check the specs on the miele site, all the models have the same motor specs. Differences are in the controls, handle, dust bag size, attachments.



There is a much bigger difference between the Chinese and German ones. The internal parts may be German but the plastic case is made locally. The Chinese ones are much cheaper plastic with poorer fit and finish. One look inside the cover makes it obvious.

I'd avoid the Chinese models. A salesman once explained to me that fit and finish is critical on a vacuum cleaner. The filter only works well if all the air is drawn through the inside of the machine and passes through the filter. If he seal on the case isn't tight, air leaks out without going through the filter. There's no point in spending money on a HEPA filter on a machine that leaks air.

napoleon1769
Sep 26th, 2009, 07:17 PM
There is a much bigger difference between the Chinese and German ones. The internal parts may be German but the plastic case is made locally. The Chinese ones are much cheaper plastic with poorer fit and finish. One look inside the cover makes it obvious.

I'd avoid the Chinese models. A salesman once explained to me that fit and finish is critical on a vacuum cleaner. The filter only works well if all the air is drawn through the inside of the machine and passes through the filter. If he seal on the case isn't tight, air leaks out without going through the filter. There's no point in spending money on a HEPA filter on a machine that leaks air.

Assembled in China does not mean that the shell is made in China.

Eyeman
Sep 27th, 2009, 08:57 AM
Assembled in China does not mean that the shell is made in China.

it is. I talked to a Miele salesman and that's what he told me. Either way, the Chinese models have much cheaper plastic cases. It's the old corporate game. Cheap out on the stuff that can't be quantified and doesn't show up in the specs.

82
Sep 27th, 2009, 09:43 AM
Did the Miele salesman show you both MIC and MIG side by side to point out the differences?

it is. I talked to a Miele salesman and that's what he told me. Either way, the Chinese models have much cheaper plastic cases. It's the old corporate game. Cheap out on the stuff that can't be quantified and doesn't show up in the specs.

Capitola
Sep 27th, 2009, 10:29 AM
Which Costco location in Toronto have this in stock? Thanks.

Keiichi
Sep 27th, 2009, 02:14 PM
I have recently purchased one of these as well. My old Kenmore finally bit the dust (!) after 10 years. Just as well...I was looking for an excuse to get a Miele.

I just looked at my vacuum, and it's made in Germany. As some have stated, my understanding is the S5 series, sold at Canadian Tire and Sears, (and maybe Costco when we get more details), are assembled in China. I was just at my Costco today, and didn't see any (Moncton).

If you check the specs on the miele site, all the models have the same motor specs. Differences are in the controls, handle, dust bag size, attachments.

I had reservations about buying the Miele solely because of the smaller bag size, but I vaccum once a week my 2500 sq ft house, and after 3 months, the bag is about 1/3 full.

Still, I would seriously consider any Miele over any Dyson. The S4 series is actually cheaper than the "Yellowstar" and "Bluestar" models, and it's made in Germany.

Please do not get confused with the models. The ones sold the department stores are not the S5 series, but really part of the S500 series. S5 and S4 really stand for S5000 models and S4000 models.

As you stated, the S500 (yellow star, blue star) are assembled in China with some parts made in China, while the S4 and S5 are purely made and assembled in Germany.

As for this S4 in Costco, it's a great deal especially with an extra brush and the extra bags. This is NOT one of the models assembled in China. When they took away the S7 in Costco, I was worried Miele had backed out on partnering with Costco, but I'm glad they brought this in.

For most places, the S4 is good enough unless you have REALLY thick carpeting. The only bad thing is that the S4 doesn't take an electric hose for the vacuum electric driven power heads. However, one can buy one of those rechargeable powerheads to be used with the S4.

Yeah....I've done a bit of research....this whole summer I was looking for vacuums......and I ended up scoring a 1 month old Miele Venus for $400. :) :) :)

hazelsmrf
Sep 27th, 2009, 06:38 PM
I have a Miele Venus and I love it, I will never go to any other brand after having this one. No more cat hair anywhere, it gets it ALL. After moving and getting a carpet I only had to buy a carpet brush and wow, it gets absolutely everything out of a thick carpet.

Gigi
Sep 27th, 2009, 06:59 PM
Which Costco location in Toronto have this in stock? Thanks.

They had a few left at the Scarborough (Warden and Ellesmere) location when I bought mine on Saturday. I love the lightweightness of it, but I'm having problems pushing the head along carpets. Am I doing something wrong? I tried adjusting the strength of the suction but it only helped a little. Thanks.

Capitola
Sep 27th, 2009, 11:07 PM
They had a few left at the Scarborough (Warden and Ellesmere) location when I bought mine on Saturday. I love the lightweightness of it, but I'm having problems pushing the head along carpets. Am I doing something wrong? I tried adjusting the strength of the suction but it only helped a little. Thanks.

Thanks for the info Gigi. Do you have thick carpet? I hope this model doesn't require the expensive battery powered ACCU NOVA powerbrush:

http://www.miele.ca/miele/canada/vacuums/vac_accessories.asp

Keiichi
Sep 28th, 2009, 12:08 AM
They had a few left at the Scarborough (Warden and Ellesmere) location when I bought mine on Saturday. I love the lightweightness of it, but I'm having problems pushing the head along carpets. Am I doing something wrong? I tried adjusting the strength of the suction but it only helped a little. Thanks.

The turbo brush on the S4 is driven by the suction power.
There should also be a setting on the turbo brush as well.

Unless your carpet is super thick (ie. tall and thick), then it shouldn't be an issue.

82
Sep 28th, 2009, 03:09 PM
Are there obvious difference in quality between the MIC and MIG Miele? Vaccum is low tech home electronics. If Miele pays decent money, China is capable to make products as good as Germany.

Having said that I prefer Germery made Miele anytime if it costs me the same or near the same ;)


Please do not get confused with the models. The ones sold the department stores are not the S5 series, but really part of the S500 series. S5 and S4 really stand for S5000 models and S4000 models.

As you stated, the S500 (yellow star, blue star) are assembled in China with some parts made in China, while the S4 and S5 are purely made and assembled in Germany.

As for this S4 in Costco, it's a great deal especially with an extra brush and the extra bags. This is NOT one of the models assembled in China. When they took away the S7 in Costco, I was worried Miele had backed out on partnering with Costco, but I'm glad they brought this in.

For most places, the S4 is good enough unless you have REALLY thick carpeting. The only bad thing is that the S4 doesn't take an electric hose for the vacuum electric driven power heads. However, one can buy one of those rechargeable powerheads to be used with the S4.

Yeah....I've done a bit of research....this whole summer I was looking for vacuums......and I ended up scoring a 1 month old Miele Venus for $400. :) :) :)

leadhead
Sep 29th, 2009, 10:20 PM
Thanks OP. Picked one up at the Mississauga South location today. They had about 14 in stock. Registered it for the 5 year warranty.

dvd5
Sep 29th, 2009, 10:28 PM
Thanks OP.

Joined Costco today so I can pickup this new vacuum to replace my dying Kennmore.

Man, it sure is light...

Funny, box says 5 year warranty already....?

Oh there are 4 left in Richmond, BC.

Keiichi
Oct 5th, 2009, 12:40 PM
Wow...I didn't realize how good a deal this was until I bought this for my friends.
I told them about how Costco is now selling the S4 and so they went out to get them, but they have been sold out in Richmond and Vancouver.

Luckily I was out in Abbotsford and went there to grab two.
I didn't realize it came with 3 brushes (turbo brush, pivoting floor brush, mini turbo brush) + the 3 attachments + a box of bags + an extra bag + one bag already installed.

This is crazy......
For comparison, the Bay is now selling the S4 for $499 and it doesn't even come with a turbo brush. Just a standard head + the 3 attachments + one bag installed. The 3 brushes + box of bags is easily an additional $200 already.......

BobyYoo
Oct 5th, 2009, 04:04 PM
is this still available in Montreal, what is the upc code?

also, is it ok to use on hard wood floor?

Keiichi
Oct 6th, 2009, 12:52 PM
is this still available in Montreal, what is the upc code?

also, is it ok to use on hard wood floor?

I don't know the code, but as to your second question....it comes with a brush for bare floors.

nafi
Oct 7th, 2009, 11:20 AM
is this still available in Montreal, what is the upc code?

also, is it ok to use on hard wood floor?

There's a pic of the Costco label earlier in the thread, you have all the info needed there. Picked one up in Laval yesterday (10 left). Thanks OP, needed this.

oyster
Nov 4th, 2009, 11:30 AM
you can order it online at costco.ca for $439

oakville
Nov 4th, 2009, 11:50 AM
one weird thinking is, why German made is better than made elsewhere? it all eventually depends on quality control and worker's dedication. if you pay a chinese worker the same amount of pay you paid to a german worker, i guarantee you get a better made product

82
Nov 4th, 2009, 11:54 AM
I agree 100%. But for the same or lower price, I prefer MIG over MIC.

one weird thinking is, why German made is better than made elsewhere? it all eventually depends on quality control and worker's dedication. if you pay a chinese worker the same amount of pay you paid to a german worker, i guarantee you get a better made product

bionicbadger
Nov 4th, 2009, 12:06 PM
if you pay a chinese worker the same amount of pay you paid to a german worker, i guarantee you get a better made product

Huh? How do you figure that?
Why do people buy german luxury products and high end items and not chinese ones? Surely if what you said was true, there would be high end chinese companies that paid their workers well and would dominate the market with superior products, but this isn't the case.

82
Nov 4th, 2009, 12:20 PM
Better made doesn't mean luxury and/or higher price and/or brand loyalty.

Huh? How do you figure that?
Why do people buy german luxury products and high end items and not chinese ones? Surely if what you said was true, there would be high end chinese companies that paid their workers well and would dominate the market with superior products, but this isn't the case.

oakville
Nov 4th, 2009, 12:42 PM
i dont know if german make any luxury PC, netbook? laptop? LCD panel? GPS?, compact flash card?...i am happy with the quality of the product, with the extra mile of buying power with my dollar. all i care eventually is if the product can do the job and reliability. most of the time, it is the manufacturer cut corner to save cost, not the inferior worker. things come from germany does not guarantee a top notch product. contrarily, lot of luxury german product product may not have highest quality rating (eg, cars made by MB and BMW).

i am using a Dyson vacuum, it is made in Malaysia, do i care? the D14 vacuum i use have similar price as this Miele, but if you compare the feature, it make quite some difference.

not thread dumping here, simply voice out my thought. no offense.

Huh? How do you figure that?
Why do people buy german luxury products and high end items and not chinese ones? Surely if what you said was true, there would be high end chinese companies that paid their workers well and would dominate the market with superior products, but this isn't the case.

Hugh
Nov 26th, 2009, 04:00 PM
$429.99 at Costco.
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Hepa Certified
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According to this http://www.miele.ca/miele/canada/vacuums/pdf/MIELE_S4_Sterling.pdf the filter is not HEPA but "Super Air Clean" (not sure what that is). A store told us that a Miele HEPA filter is disposable, $50, and can be installed in non-HEPA Miele vacuums like this one.

Does anyone know how this model compares with the one going on sale at CT tomorrow? http://www.miele.ca/miele/canada/vacuums/pdf/MIELE_S518_YellowStar.pdf Is this one assembled in Germany or China? The CT one is from the larger "mid-size" series

Sarcasmo
Nov 26th, 2009, 04:32 PM
How does the Costco model compare to the S518 (http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/3/HouseHome/3/CleaningToolsVacuums/CanisterVacuums/PRD~0436511P/Miele%2BCanister%2BS518.jsp) that's on sale at CT tomorrow for $500. The CT model comes with the powered carpet brush (which is a plus for me) but no "mini turbine" (whatever that is). There's no mention of warranty or country of manufacture on CT's website.

82
Nov 26th, 2009, 04:33 PM
CT S518 is higher model but made in China. Anyone know the consumable cost for the S518?

How does the Costco model compare to the S518 (http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/3/HouseHome/3/CleaningToolsVacuums/CanisterVacuums/PRD~0436511P/Miele%2BCanister%2BS518.jsp) that's on sale at CT tomorrow for $500. The CT model comes with the powered carpet brush (which is a plus for me) but no "mini turbine" (whatever that is). There's no mention of warranty or country of manufacture on CT's website.