turning right in the 2nd lane

[HondaScott]

Is it against the law to turn right on a red light (once you've done a complete stop) and there is no sign saying you cannot turn on the red light in the 2nd lane because there is another car in the turning lane?

[Chr1s]

Yes, it is illegal and dangerous!

Proper form is to wait behind the car in the right turn lane, unless there are two lanes DEDICATED for right turns.

[3weddings]

Is it against the law to turn right on a red light (once you've done a complete stop) and there is no sign saying you cannot turn on the red light in the 2nd lane because there is another car in the turning lane?

To say that a driver (I assume you are) is asking this scares me!!!!!!

[TripleHelix]

Is it against the law to turn right on a red light (once you've done a complete stop) and there is no sign saying you cannot turn on the red light in the 2nd lane because there is another car in the turning lane?

Shouldn't you be in the turning lane also then?

[HondaScott]

I would of been in the turning lane but the guy driving was blocking me from turning as he was going straight.

[Flyer]

So where were you going or what were you doing that was so damned urgent that you could not wait an extra minute or two?

[3weddings]

I would of been in the turning lane but the guy driving was blocking me from turning as he was going straight.

you're asking to be flogged!!! Incredible!!

[ronwel]

I would of been in the turning lane but the guy driving was blocking me from turning as he was going straight.

The person in the right lane has the right to go straight. It is completely illegal, dangerous and incredibly stupid to think that you could turn right, crossing infront of another car. Wait your turn like a rational person or get off the road.

[thelefteyeguy]

So where were you going or what were you doing that was so damned urgent that you could not wait an extra minute or two?

sometimes it's like 10mins...ie Sheppard / Bayview at rush hour...it sucks but cars get caught cause once a week a cop is stationed there

[Jon Lai]

Yes, it is illegal and dangerous!

Proper form is to wait behind the car in the right turn lane, unless there are two lanes DEDICATED for right turns.

Pretty sure all such intersections have a "NO RIGHT ON RED" sign.

Sounds like the intersection OP is talking about is where there is not a dedicated right turn lane. Just wait.

[gman]

Pretty sure all such intersections have a "NO RIGHT ON RED" sign.

Sounds like the intersection OP is talking about is where there is not a dedicated right turn lane. Just wait.

No. 401 west bound goes out in Lesile. That 2 right turn lane do not have that sign (or at least, it did not have that sign).
Same as 404 north bound, goes out in Steeles or goes out in Hwy 7.

[Jon Lai]

No. 401 west bound goes out in Lesile. That 2 right turn lane do not have that sign (or at least, it did not have that sign).
Same as 404 north bound, goes out in Steeles or goes out in Hwy 7.

I forgot about highway exits. I'm sure what I said applies to *most* 4 way intersections though.

[gh05t]

This happens a lot on the off ramps from the highway. And though there are no signs my thinking is that it is ok to turn right from the middle lane which also has arrows showing you can go left and right BUT only on a green light.

Only the person in the rightmost lane may turn right on the red light after coming to a complete stop unless otherwise specified by signs saying no right turn on red signal.

The person in the middle lane must wait till the light is green again before turning right or left.

Saw a female driver make the right turn from the middle lane on a red light recently and another female driver making the right from the rightmost lane went directly into the middle lane instead of the rightmost lane on the straight thereby cutting off the middle lane turner and almost causing a collision.

Both of them made illegal turns and no cop was present unfortunately. The only thing missing from the equation was a cellphone at the ear of both or either one of them.

[fastlayne]

This happens a lot on the off ramps from the highway. And though there are no signs my thinking is that it is ok to turn right from the middle lane which also has arrows showing you can go left and right BUT only on a green light.

Only the person in the rightmost lane may turn right on the red light after coming to a complete stop unless otherwise specified by signs saying no right turn on red signal.

The person in the middle lane must wait till the light is green again before turning right or left.

Saw a female driver make the right turn from the middle lane on a red light recently and another female driver making the right from the rightmost lane went directly into the middle lane instead of the rightmost lane on the straight thereby cutting off the middle lane turner and almost causing a collision.

Both of them made illegal turns and no cop was present unfortunately. The only thing missing from the equation was a cellphone at the ear of both or either one of them.

HTA 141 refers to right turns where multiple lanes are designated. I do not see a specific mention that a turn on a red is only legal from the curb lane.

My favorite pastime is blasting my horn at drivers that can't understand that they can't slide 3 lanes to the left as we both make our right hand turns from our respective lanes.

Perhaps I have tooted at you at the 410 Southbound exit to Queen west.;)

[GangStarr]

No. 401 west bound goes out in Lesile. That 2 right turn lane do not have that sign (or at least, it did not have that sign).
Same as 404 north bound, goes out in Steeles or goes out in Hwy 7.

Good examples, I was thinking the same. I don't think there is anything illegal about making a right turn, from the second right most, right turn lane provided that your the first car and you can complete the turn in a safe manner.

edit

About the comment about someone going wide for a right turn from the curb lane and hitting the person making the right from the 2most right curb lane. Thats the fault of the driver pulling a right from the crub lane. Just like the double left turn lanes, people always go wide from the inside. Idiots.

[Jon Lai]

This happens a lot on the off ramps from the highway. And though there are no signs my thinking is that it is ok to turn right from the middle lane which also has arrows showing you can go left and right BUT only on a green light.

Only the person in the rightmost lane may turn right on the red light after coming to a complete stop unless otherwise specified by signs saying no right turn on red signal.

The person in the middle lane must wait till the light is green again before turning right or left.

Saw a female driver make the right turn from the middle lane on a red light recently and another female driver making the right from the rightmost lane went directly into the middle lane instead of the rightmost lane on the straight thereby cutting off the middle lane turner and almost causing a collision.

Both of them made illegal turns and no cop was present unfortunately. The only thing missing from the equation was a cellphone at the ear of both or either one of them.

What? If there is not a "NO RIGHT ON RED" sign, the middle laner should also be able to turn right on red. Unless the HTA has a rule on this, I think this is how the way it should go.

More like, the car on the rightmost lane should always turn right to the rightmost lane of the perpendicular street.

I can never understand why right turners keep turning to the left lane while left turners keep turning to the right lane.

[thoughts]

Is it against the law to turn right on a red light (once you've done a complete stop) and there is no sign saying you cannot turn on the red light in the 2nd lane because there is another car in the turning lane?

YOU SCHOOPID driver, I cant stand people like you, cant you just turn right into the immidiate right lane, then signal left and proceed into the left lane after a few seconds. Idiots like you turn across 1 or 2 lanes...( 3 on the highway ) and wonder why the world thinks youre a moron

[gman]

YOU SCHOOPID driver, I cant stand people like you, cant you just turn right into the immidiate right lane, then signal left and proceed into the left lane after a few seconds. Idiots like you turn across 1 or 2 lanes...( 3 on the highway ) and wonder why the world thinks youre a moron

You don't even understand what you quoted was talking about.

[thoughts]

Is it against the law to turn right on a red light (once you've done a complete stop) and there is no sign saying you cannot turn on the red light in the 2nd lane because there is another car in the turning lane?

LOL didnt u take driving lessons ?? youre instructor should have schooled you on that. Or was it YA MOM or YA DA that taught u how to drive ?

[srg83]

All things considered, isn't it better that the OP is asking about this situation in RFD rather than assuming it IS legal and does a stupid and dangerous manoeuvre on the road?

[tabiish]

All things considered, isn't it better that the OP is asking about this situation in RFD rather than assuming it IS legal and does a stupid and dangerous manoeuvre on the road?

Agree. Better ask for that question here. Rather than in fron of the cop when he gets pulled over doing the dangerous manouver, and endangering incoming cars.

[zivan56]

Lots of people do this in other countries (mostly Eastern Europe, Russia, Asia, etc)...but I wouldn't do it here due to people in the turning lane not paying attention (or expecting you to turn as well). Plus it's illegal, so if you get caught you have yourself a nice ticket.

[tsatsa]

OP, one time I saw a police in the WM parking lot, so I went over and ask him that very same question, to my surprise he said he is not sure.

[tyfriend]

So let me get this straight. OP is asking if it is okay to turn right on a red from the lane next to the right most lane. For example the lanes off a highway which has multiple lanes to turn right from?

In that case I think it is okay to do so if the lane is marked as a right turn lane. Just signal and turn right into the correct lane.

[Reign]

I just try to make my own rules when driving I make sure to look out for cops before breaking the law, so far I've been clean.

[tyfriend]

I just try to make my own rules when driving I make sure to look out for cops before breaking the law, so far I've been clean.

:lol:

knock on wood...

[UrbanPoet]

omg! if the OP did this to me... I'd flip out.
Why would you turn in front of another vehicle thats prepared to go straight?
Doesnt that sound dangerous enough already?

[HondaScott]

omg! if the OP did this to me... I'd flip out.
Why would you turn in front of another vehicle thats prepared to go straight?
Doesnt that sound dangerous enough already?

Well again if people had common courtesy and are blocking a turning lane just to go straight I think you should be allowed to turn right. In addition before turning right I seen the other light was red on the other side which makes it safer. Its like me going into the right lane while there is long traffic behind me and having to signal over to other lane because I decide straight is the better option.

[tyfriend]

Well again if people had common courtesy and are blocking a turning lane just to go straight I think you should be allowed to turn right. In addition before turning right I seen the other light was red on the other side which makes it safer. Its like me going into the right lane while there is long traffic behind me and having to signal over to other lane because I decide straight is the better option.

No. That's a bad decision. Either speed up or slow down if the guy is blocking you. I prefer the former.

[Chr1s]

Well again if people had common courtesy and are blocking a turning lane just to go straight I think you should be allowed to turn right. In addition before turning right I seen the other light was red on the other side which makes it safer. Its like me going into the right lane while there is long traffic behind me and having to signal over to other lane because I decide straight is the better option.

What you think is correct, and what is written as law are 2 VERY different matters. I think you need a few fines to teach you the difference.

Common courtesy? Where are you showing any?

By your logic, if the TTC bus is in the right lane, blocking you from turning right (the jerk) :razz:, and the bus is going straight, you THINK you can cut in-front of it to make your turn?

Do you really believe that maneuver is safe and legal?

Do you believe you can see the pedestrians who may be crossing? The cyclist who may be coming through, or another vehicle coming from the opposite direction who may be turning on an ADVANCED green light?

Seriously, if you do this move to shave a few minutes off your time, you may in fact end up seriously injuring or killing someone.

[ndrew029]

Sometimes I just end up being the first one in the right lane going straight because I missed the light or my turn is coming up shortly after the intersection. Still, as much as I try to avoid being "that guy", I don't feel sorry for anyone behind me because I have every legal right to be there and you're not an paramedic, firefighter, or police officer (for whom moving to the right and stopping is actually the correct action).

[Kellster]

Hey, I've got a great idea....get in line, wait your damn turn and make the turn from the correct lane!!!

There are too damn many selfish and totally clued out drivers out there.