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yuzhaofeng
Aug 27th, 2009, 10:00 AM
I spried some weed control on my lawn, but killed grass too. What should I do for saving my grass? Thanks for help.

CSK'sMom
Aug 27th, 2009, 11:00 AM
What exactly did you spray on your grass? Brand name?

Shane1975
Aug 27th, 2009, 01:03 PM
I spried some weed control on my lawn, but killed grass too. What should I do for saving my grass? Thanks for help.

Sounds like you've sprayed your grass with non-selective weed killer, which essentially kills everything. Not much you can do. Eventually the grass will regrow. If you can't wait, you could spread some of that miracle grow stuff that they show on those infomercials.

Selective weed killers are no longer sold in ontario.

Mr Nobody
Aug 27th, 2009, 02:19 PM
Reminds me of 2 years ago when I was at HD returning a rented tiller. While I was in the parking lot, I saw a lady unloading and bringing in a BIGGER tiller for return. The husband did not lift one finger to help her. I found it odd. In line for returns, she asks me why I rented a tiller. I said I was doing some gardening. She said the reason she rented the tiller was because she mistakenly used RoundUp (or whatever the non-selective weed killer was called) on her entire backyard and now she had to reseed the entire lawn. Then I figured out why the husband wasn't helping. LOL.

Selective weed killers are no longer sold in ontario.

Sarritor is supposed to be available to consumers next year.

speedyforme
Aug 27th, 2009, 02:52 PM
try to put some top soil on the area of the grass you want to regrow, add a bit of seed and starter fertilizer

worked for me

Shane1975
Aug 27th, 2009, 03:16 PM
Sarritor is supposed to be available to consumers next year.

The Weed Man used Sarritor on our lawn this year and it made a slight diference but not much. We still have a ton of weeds.

Mr Nobody
Aug 27th, 2009, 04:18 PM
The Weed Man used Sarritor on our lawn this year and it made a slight diference but not much. We still have a ton of weeds.

Although Sarritor says it works on all broad leaf plants, other accounts say it only works on dandelions. The yards around my neighbourhood with a Weed Man (and Sarritor) sign on the lawn look great. But I can understand that a natural product is not as effect as (banned) chemicals.

yuzhaofeng
Aug 27th, 2009, 08:00 PM
What exactly did you spray on your grass? Brand name?

Thank you all. I didn't notice it's non-selective weed control. The brand name is Scotts Ecosense. I sprayed two days ago, should I reseed now, or wait for a few more days? Thanks.

speedyforme
Aug 27th, 2009, 09:17 PM
Ecosense is very strong, killed everything on my lawn (by my choice)

If you spray a lot, your grass is dead for good.

Rembrandt100
Aug 28th, 2009, 12:43 AM
Ecosense is very strong, killed everything on my lawn (by my choice)

If you spray a lot, your grass is dead for good.

And your soil is sterile. Eccosence is a vinegar based product. Vinegar will sterilze the soil for 1 season depending on the concentrate. Eccosence is 7.5 %. You are going to have to at least add 1" of soil to what you have now if reseeding or you could rent a tiller and till the yard to bring non sterile soil to the surface.

By the way..........OP you are a good example why the stuff is banned in the first place. YOU DID NOT BOTHER TO READ THE LABEL. Or you would have known better.


Dave

CaptSmethwick
Aug 28th, 2009, 06:08 AM
And your soil is sterile. Eccosence is a vinegar based product. Vinegar will sterilze the soil for 1 season depending on the concentrate. Eccosence is 7.5 %. You are going to have to at least add 1" of soil to what you have now if reseeding or you could rent a tiller and till the yard to bring non sterile soil to the surface.

By the way..........OP you are a good example why the stuff is banned in the first place. YOU DID NOT BOTHER TO READ THE LABEL. Or you would have known better.


Dave

Plus, the ban does not allow this product to be used to control weeds - unless they are poisonous to the touch. The information around that is pretty flimsy, though, so not knowing this is perhaps understandable. OTOH, not reading the label? :rolleyes:

dolphie
Aug 28th, 2009, 07:25 AM
By the way..........OP you are a good example why the stuff is banned in the first place. YOU DID NOT BOTHER TO READ THE LABEL. Or you would have known better.
heh.

speedyforme
Aug 28th, 2009, 08:06 AM
Yeah I had to add 1 inch of top soil on top in order to reseed and grow the grass back

Mr Nobody
Aug 28th, 2009, 10:36 AM
By the way..........OP you are a good example why the stuff is banned in the first place. YOU DID NOT BOTHER TO READ THE LABEL. Or you would have known better.

I thought the ban is on chemical pesticides, which is why we no longer see Roundup with 2-4-D and we see all the eco-brand natural pesticides?

CaptSmethwick
Aug 28th, 2009, 08:46 PM
I thought the ban is on chemical pesticides, which is why we no longer see Roundup with 2-4-D and we see all the eco-brand natural pesticides?

Roundup is still very much on the market: www.canadiantire.ca (http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/2/OutdoorLiving/FertilizersGrassSeed/WeedControl/PRD~0593598P/Round%2BUp%2BConcentrate%252C%2B1%2BL.jsp). I don't know if this still contains 2-4-D...

According to Ontario's new ban, non-selective products like Roundup are only supposed to be used to control poisonous (to the touch) plants - plants like poison ivy. The fact that it is flying off the shelves suggests that it is being used for other applications - applications that are, strictly speaking, in violation of the law.

Rembrandt100
Aug 29th, 2009, 02:36 AM
Roundup is still very much on the market: www.canadiantire.ca (http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/2/OutdoorLiving/FertilizersGrassSeed/WeedControl/PRD~0593598P/Round%2BUp%2BConcentrate%252C%2B1%2BL.jsp). I don't know if this still contains 2-4-D...

According to Ontario's new ban, non-selective products like Roundup are only supposed to be used to control poisonous (to the touch) plants - plants like poison ivy. The fact that it is flying off the shelves suggests that it is being used for other applications - applications that are, strictly speaking, in violation of the law.

Ok lets get this sorted out.

Yes you can buy Roundup. But you are only to use it on Poison Oak and Poison Ivy. Any other use of it is forbidden by a bylaw. Roundup is a nonselective herbicide. It has no 2-4d in it.

Eccosense is a horticulture vinegar based product. It is mixed with water. It is not banned under the bylaw. It is also a nonselective herbicide. Eccosense is sold as just over a 7% solution at over $10 per liter. You can purchase a 5 liter container of pure horticultural vingar for about $50. If you bought a 5 liter container and made a 10% solution (just means faster knock down of plants) you would be able to make 50 liters of Eccosence that if you bought would cost over $500.

If OP had read the label in the first place he would not have this problem. I mean what the heck. Do people not read the label on medicine bottles? Why is this different?


Dave

CaptSmethwick
Aug 29th, 2009, 05:01 AM
Ok lets get this sorted out.

Yes you can buy Roundup. But you are only to use it on Poison Oak and Poison Ivy. Any other use of it is forbidden by a bylaw. Roundup is a nonselective herbicide. It has no 2-4d in it.

Eccosense is a horticulture vinegar based product. It is mixed with water. It is not banned under the bylaw. It is also a nonselective herbicide. Eccosense is sold as just over a 7% solution at over $10 per liter. You can purchase a 5 liter container of pure horticultural vingar for about $50. If you bought a 5 liter container and made a 10% solution (just means faster knock down of plants) you would be able to make 50 liters of Eccosence that if you bought would cost over $500.

If OP had read the label in the first place he would not have this problem. I mean what the heck. Do people not read the label on medicine bottles? Why is this different?

Dave

That's a good distinction - thanks for the clarification (I'm obviously unfamiliar with Ecosense).

speedyforme
Aug 29th, 2009, 07:29 AM
Dave is right, when I picked up Ecosense it clearly says on the label NON-SELECTIVE killer which means it will kill everything and it even warns you about not spraying on things you don't want dead.

Personally, regardless of it's legality, if someone wanted to kill something, use Ecosense, I found it MUCH stronger than Round Up.

Ecosense burned the weeds/grass within hours on a warm day and Roundup barely burned them...

Mr Nobody
Aug 29th, 2009, 07:39 PM
If OP had read the label in the first place he would not have this problem. I mean what the heck. Do people not read the label on medicine bottles? Why is this different?

Let's cut OP some slack. We all get brain farts once in a while.

thesubmitter
Aug 31st, 2009, 03:01 AM
sarritor ONLY works for dandelions and requires watering right after it is applied and it must be applied directly to the dandelions.