Japanese Restaurant Won't Hire Me (Language Issues)

[3121983]

First and foremost I respect all person's opinions but if you are gonna come here to mess around and make unwarranted remarks I ask you to go away.
Secondly I am looking for detailed, wise and thoughtful advice from more of the mature people who know a thing or two about how things work. I don't want any advice from younger crowd no offense or anything.

Basically I'm trying to save up for a 30" LCD plus a new I7 rig. This is gonna be my main gamer computer for when Starcraft 2 comes out. Unfortunately my parents won't buy me a new computer even though I tried to convince them they should buy me one for school. I had hoped this might get them to fork over the money for my new rig but no dice. They continue to nag me about computers is a waste of money and time blah blah blah..

Now I was working on a blueberry farm but the job just wasn't for me. Especially since the job required heavy physical labor and I was getting paid peanuts. I took it upon myself to look for another job that I am more suited for and that is much easier. I decided to apply at a restaurant joint.

I have a HUGE problem..
I applied to this Japanese restaurant with good intentions. I gave the manager my resume and asked if I could have an interview. He asked me some questions that didn't even pertain to the job which was unprofessional. Like he said I had to speak Korean because everyone on staff was Korean. Obviously thats an issue because I'm Chinese and the only Korean word I know is kimchi. But whats even more bizarre and questionable is how Korean people are running a Japanese restaurant. Talk about irony... but thats besides the point

I know about equal employment opportunities and I know I am being 'shafted' here. What can I do or where can I complain about the mistreatment. Because I know I am qualified for the job but I am being discriminated against because I can't speak Korean. This basically deflated my hope in getting a job and I am very disheartened. I really need money so I can buy my computer.

Resolvement in this matter would be greatly appreciated.

[originalnutta]

First and foremost I respect all person's opinions but if you are gonna come here to mess around and make unwarranted remarks I ask you to go away.
Secondly I am looking for detailed, wise and thoughtful advice from more of the mature people who know a thing or two about how things work. I don't want any advice from younger crowd no offense or anything.

Basically I'm trying to save up for a 30" LCD plus a new I7 rig. This is gonna be my main gamer computer for when Starcraft 2 comes out. Unfortunately my parents won't buy me a new computer even though I tried to convince them they should buy me one for school. I had hoped this might get them to fork over the money for my new rig but no dice. They continue to nag me about computers is a waste of money and time blah blah blah..

Now I was working on a blueberry farm but the job just wasn't for me. Especially since the job required heavy physical labor and I was getting paid peanuts. I took it upon myself to look for another job that I am more suited for and that is much easier. I decided to apply at a restaurant joint.


good luck. :lol:

[grape]

.... thats not discrimnation. there is a reason he wanted to know if u speak korean.

it doesnt matter if the restaurent was japenese, chinese or white. if u dont speak the dominate language in the shop, how are u going to communicate.

from my experince with restaurents that is like that, the majority of the staff spoke in their mother tongue, to make orders, cash, or w/e. since most of them are international or exchange student, or just new to canada. most of them have broken english, so the restaurent will not run as smooth if they have english dialogue.

ur taking this too personally. move on and look for another.

[fenrus]

If speaking Korean is a huge asset in working there, why does that make you think you are more qualified to work there?

Lots of Japanese restaurants are run or have Chinese, Vietnamese, or Korean employees.

[MP3_SKY]

Ask yourself, even they hired you, will you be comfortable working with all the Koreans and they all speak Korean among themselves and they have to speak English to you and rarely talk to you because you don't speak their language. Do you think this is a good working environment for you?

You are just looking for a restaurant job to pay your toys, are you going to bring up an huge issue for this? Or better off, save your time, look for another job and start working and saving for your toys.

[5dark]

Apply at another restaurant, preferably a Chinese one. This isn't a joke, don't waste time with this one, there are plenty of places around.

Lots of cultural restaurants are run by another culture, btw.

[gman]

First and foremost I respect all person's opinions but if you are gonna come here to mess around and make unwarranted remarks I ask you to go away.
Secondly I am looking for detailed, wise and thoughtful advice from more of the mature people who know a thing or two about how things work. I don't want any advice from younger crowd no offense or anything.

Basically I'm trying to save up for a 30" LCD plus a new I7 rig. This is gonna be my main gamer computer for when Starcraft 2 comes out. Unfortunately my parents won't buy me a new computer even though I tried to convince them they should buy me one for school. I had hoped this might get them to fork over the money for my new rig but no dice. They continue to nag me about computers is a waste of money and time blah blah blah..

Now I was working on a blueberry farm but the job just wasn't for me. Especially since the job required heavy physical labor and I was getting paid peanuts. I took it upon myself to look for another job that I am more suited for and that is much easier. I decided to apply at a restaurant joint.

I have a HUGE problem..
I applied to this Japanese restaurant with good intentions. I gave the manager my resume and asked if I could have an interview. He asked me some questions that didn't even pertain to the job which was unprofessional. Like he said I had to speak Korean because everyone on staff was Korean. Obviously thats an issue because I'm Chinese and the only Korean word I know is kimchi. But whats even more bizarre and questionable is how Korean people are running a Japanese restaurant. Talk about irony... but thats besides the point

I know about equal employment opportunities and I know I am being 'shafted' here. What can I do or where can I complain about the mistreatment. Because I know I am qualified for the job but I am being discriminated against because I can't speak Korean. This basically deflated my hope in getting a job and I am very disheartened. I really need money so I can buy my computer.

Resolvement in this matter would be greatly appreciated.

That is a requirement. If you can speak Korean, you can fulfill the requirement. Since you can't, you do not fulfill the basic requirement. There is no mistreatment. If you can speak Korean but you were not hired because of the sole reason of being Chinese, you have a case.

If a Korean who cannot speak Cantonese try to get a job in a Cantonese run Japanese restaurant and the restaurant requires its staff to speak Cantonese, he would have the same issue.

How do you expect to work there if you cannot communicate with them? A mis-communication in a restaurant can be life and death. Say, if no peanut is interpreted as no peas, that can be a big deal.

About how Korean running a Japanese restaurant, do you know how long Korea was occupied by Japanese? Do you know how much Korean culture was changed by Japanese? That is why you see a lot of Korean/Japanese restaurant. It is more "natural" for Korean to run a Japanese restaurant than Chinese.

To 'resolve' this, the easy way: forget about it, get over it and find another job. The hard way ... you won't do it.

I do agree, you have a HUGE problem and probably more than one.

[themagekiler]

The way he put it was not really professional but yes he is allowed under specific circumstances. For example the Mcd's at market is all Chinese people working because the client is all Chinese and if you don't speak Cantonese or mandarin would make the job very difficult.

[J W]

If the manager doesn't want you there, why would you want to work there?

A job is a privilege, not a right. They don't have to hire you if they don't feel like it.

[45ED]

First and foremost I respect all person's opinions but if you are gonna come here to mess around and make unwarranted remarks I ask you to go away.
Secondly I am looking for detailed, wise and thoughtful advice from more of the mature people who know a thing or two about how things work. I don't want any advice from younger crowd no offense or anything.

Basically I'm trying to save up for a 30" LCD plus a new I7 rig. This is gonna be my main gamer computer for when Starcraft 2 comes out. Unfortunately my parents won't buy me a new computer even though I tried to convince them they should buy me one for school. I had hoped this might get them to fork over the money for my new rig but no dice. They continue to nag me about computers is a waste of money and time blah blah blah..

Now I was working on a blueberry farm but the job just wasn't for me. Especially since the job required heavy physical labor and I was getting paid peanuts. I took it upon myself to look for another job that I am more suited for and that is much easier. I decided to apply at a restaurant joint.

I have a HUGE problem..
I applied to this Japanese restaurant with good intentions. I gave the manager my resume and asked if I could have an interview. He asked me some questions that didn't even pertain to the job which was unprofessional. Like he said I had to speak Korean because everyone on staff was Korean. Obviously thats an issue because I'm Chinese and the only Korean word I know is kimchi. But whats even more bizarre and questionable is how Korean people are running a Japanese restaurant. Talk about irony... but thats besides the point

I know about equal employment opportunities and I know I am being 'shafted' here. What can I do or where can I complain about the mistreatment. Because I know I am qualified for the job but I am being discriminated against because I can't speak Korean. This basically deflated my hope in getting a job and I am very disheartened. I really need money so I can buy my computer.

Resolvement in this matter would be greatly appreciated.

"Huge problem"? Talk about an understatement...


Your parents won't buy you a computer screen for school because they saw through your lie and knew that you wanted it for gaming? Good job, parents.
You're not qualified for the job - most people working there speak Korean. Do you speak Korean? No. Then you're not qualified. It's like a workplace full of English speaking folks with an applicant who doesn't speak a lick of English. Should the employer allow that person to work there? No, because it would be difficult for the English-speaking majority/workers to work with a non-English speaking person. It isn't discrimination, it's common sense.
Again, with the dictating thread comment thing. Unwarranted remarks? Is this one of your "if you're not for me you're against me" things?

[DuDe1411]

you got interviewed, you didnt meet their requirement (within the law) so time to move on... McDick pays quite well to flip burgers...

Quit being so emo all the time.... Starcraft 2 is not coming out for another year and you dont need a 30" screen to play starcraft.

stop being so spoiled and listen to your parents

@45ED pretty much the same thread...

[t3359]

Ahem...

First of all, knowing that you are posting in an online forum, you should have just asked "Is a restaurant legally obligated to hire me for part-time work given the fact that I do not speak the same language as everyone else?" or even "I applied for work at a certain restaurant but was rejected. I suspect that it was because I do not speak the language as the proprietors or customers..."

Phrasing the question like that, and avoiding what type of computer you want to buy to play what version of Starcraft would certainly give you more credibility and avoid alot of the smart remarks you are going to get.

With the question rephrased, what would your answer be? ... and why would you insist on working there anyway? If you're more suited for an Asian restaurant, there are a billion to choose from.

bjl

[Tig]

First and foremost I respect all person's opinions but if you are gonna come here to mess around and make unwarranted remarks I ask you to go away.
Secondly I am looking for detailed, wise and thoughtful advice from more of the mature people who know a thing or two about how things work. I don't want any advice from younger crowd no offense or anything.

Basically I'm trying to save up for a 30" LCD plus a new I7 rig. This is gonna be my main gamer computer for when Starcraft 2 comes out. Unfortunately my parents won't buy me a new computer even though I tried to convince them they should buy me one for school. I had hoped this might get them to fork over the money for my new rig but no dice. They continue to nag me about computers is a waste of money and time blah blah blah..

Now I was working on a blueberry farm but the job just wasn't for me. Especially since the job required heavy physical labor and I was getting paid peanuts. I took it upon myself to look for another job that I am more suited for and that is much easier. I decided to apply at a restaurant joint.

I have a HUGE problem..
I applied to this Japanese restaurant with good intentions. I gave the manager my resume and asked if I could have an interview. He asked me some questions that didn't even pertain to the job which was unprofessional. Like he said I had to speak Korean because everyone on staff was Korean. Obviously thats an issue because I'm Chinese and the only Korean word I know is kimchi. But whats even more bizarre and questionable is how Korean people are running a Japanese restaurant. Talk about irony... but thats besides the point

I know about equal employment opportunities and I know I am being 'shafted' here. What can I do or where can I complain about the mistreatment. Because I know I am qualified for the job but I am being discriminated against because I can't speak Korean. This basically deflated my hope in getting a job and I am very disheartened. I really need money so I can buy my computer.

Resolvement in this matter would be greatly appreciated.

Move on, you're overqualified for this job. Just by the quality of your grammar I can tell that you could land some kind of white collar job, the seniority of which would depend on your experience and education. All it takes is perseverance, trust me on this..

[ClubberLang]

You have a pathetic sense of entitlement... and this is coming from someone that is very left leaning and pro "human rights".

[Fluid]

Does this have something to do with a korean gf?

[Jon Lai]

Man, everytime I read OP's posts I feel like he's trying too hard to overtake K_K to win next year's $50 Amazon gift card xD

Seriously. The Blueberry farm job was probably right for you. Money comes from hard work - getting paid a lot for little work doesn't exactly teach you the same ethics.

Get a life.

[hugh_da_man]

obvious troll is obvious...don't feed

[Piro21]

Why don't you just go find a restaurant run by Chinese people? You'd actually be able to talk to them, and it's not like you don't have much selection. Go to any food court and check into the Thai, Japanese, or Mexican places. Tons of Chinese people there.

[45ED]

Man, everytime I read OP's posts I feel like he's trying too hard to overtake K_K to win next year's $50 Amazon gift card xD

Seriously. The Blueberry farm job was probably right for you. Money comes from hard work - getting paid a lot for little work doesn't exactly teach you the same ethics.

Get a life.

But he has a life, don't you see? He's a pro gamer, and one of the best in North America/World/Bizarroland! And he's super good at TF2. His parents are apparently too hard on him and he just wants to get better. So he's getting a better job to help him get one step closer to gamer glory. Working is a sacrifice to him. Like, wow, we should help him with every whiny complain ... ahem ... worthwhile concern he has. :rolleyes:

[gman]

Why don't you just go find a restaurant run by Chinese people? You'd actually be able to talk to them, and it's not like you don't have much selection. Go to any food court and check into the Thai, Japanese, or Mexican places. Tons of Chinese people there.

May be he has concern about these Chinese people may have the same mind set like his parents and he may really have to work hard too.

[Churo1]

Okay lets cut the horsing around and be serious for a moment.

It's really a shame that some of the best jobs in Canada, such as working at an illegally run Korean-owned "Japanese" back ally restaurant are restricted to people of only certain ethnic origins. This is the sad reality of working in Canada, and it's more common than people think.

[najibs]

First and foremost I respect all person's opinions but if you are gonna come here to mess around and make unwarranted remarks I ask you to go away.
Secondly I am looking for detailed, wise and thoughtful advice from more of the mature people who know a thing or two about how things work. I don't want any advice from younger crowd no offense or anything.

Basically I'm trying to save up for a 30" LCD plus a new I7 rig. This is gonna be my main gamer computer for when Starcraft 2 comes out. Unfortunately my parents won't buy me a new computer even though I tried to convince them they should buy me one for school. I had hoped this might get them to fork over the money for my new rig but no dice. They continue to nag me about computers is a waste of money and time blah blah blah..

Now I was working on a blueberry farm but the job just wasn't for me. Especially since the job required heavy physical labor and I was getting paid peanuts. I took it upon myself to look for another job that I am more suited for and that is much easier. I decided to apply at a restaurant joint.

I have a HUGE problem..
I applied to this Japanese restaurant with good intentions. I gave the manager my resume and asked if I could have an interview. He asked me some questions that didn't even pertain to the job which was unprofessional. Like he said I had to speak Korean because everyone on staff was Korean. Obviously thats an issue because I'm Chinese and the only Korean word I know is kimchi. But whats even more bizarre and questionable is how Korean people are running a Japanese restaurant. Talk about irony... but thats besides the point

I know about equal employment opportunities and I know I am being 'shafted' here. What can I do or where can I complain about the mistreatment. Because I know I am qualified for the job but I am being discriminated against because I can't speak Korean. This basically deflated my hope in getting a job and I am very disheartened. I really need money so I can buy my computer.

Resolvement in this matter would be greatly appreciated.


I'm from the older crowd, and I'm a manager at work, and I'm also in charge of hiring new people, so I believe I'm qualified to answer. To be honest, if I may, I wouldn't hire you based on your arrogance alone.

Second, the fact that you lied to your parents about wanting a computer for school, when you come here to RFD and confess it's purpose is to be your gaming rig.

Third, you want money for nothing (and the chicks for free) by complaining about working hard in your previous job and now you want an easy job. Well...suck it up, Son, in order to get ahead in life you have to start off working hard when you're young and not just doing what you're supposed to do, but rather by going above and beyond.

Fourth, if the Korean restaurant owner only wants to hire Koreans, that's his own decision and he can do that if he feels like it, and you can't do d!ck about it.

Fifth, take this as a lesson, and learn that you can't have your cake, and eat it too. Starting off in life IS hard work, and just because you THINK you're qualified or deserve a job, doesn't mean you are. I certainly hope this will make you a more humble person, and end your arrogance, because I can smell it all the way across the internet.

[DuDe1411]

Okay lets cut the horsing around and be serious for a moment.

It's really a shame that some of the best jobs in Canada, such as working at an illegally run Korean-owned "Japanese" back ally restaurant are restricted to people of only certain ethnic origins. This is the sad reality of working in Canada, and it's more common than people think.

Seriously? (...):mad:

[MrDisco]

Fourth, if the Korean restaurant owner only wants to hire Koreans, that's his own decision and he can do that if he feels like it, and you can't do d!ck about it.

I take exception to that statement. Ignoring the silliness and troll-like nature of the op's posts, there is no way I can believe that what you're saying is legal.

[noob666]

I'm from the older crowd, and I'm a manager at work, and I'm also in charge of hiring new people, so I believe I'm qualified to answer. To be honest, if I may, I wouldn't hire you based on your arrogance alone.

Second, the fact that you lied to your parents about wanting a computer for school, when you come here to RFD and confess it's purpose is to be your gaming rig.

Third, you want money for nothing (and the chicks for free) by complaining about working hard in your previous job and now you want an easy job. Well...suck it up, Son, in order to get ahead in life you have to start off working hard when you're young and not just doing what you're supposed to do, but rather by going above and beyond.

Fourth, if the Korean restaurant owner only wants to hire Koreans, that's his own decision and he can do that if he feels like it, and you can't do d!ck about it.

Fifth, take this as a lesson, and learn that you can't have your cake, and eat it too. Starting off in life IS hard work, and just because you THINK you're qualified or deserve a job, doesn't mean you are. I certainly hope this will make you a more humble person, and end your arrogance, because I can smell it all the way across the internet.

very well said :!:

[pitz]

Maybe you need to take some initiative, and show them that you can adapt to Japanese culture. Join a Japanese religion. Wear Japanese clothing. Hang out with Japanese friends. Get on the plane and actually get some 'on-the-ground' Japanese experience.

Japanese people are very different, very intelligent, and they have some super-awesome religions there. For instance, SUKI (tm), The New World Religion (tm), was started in Japan. Did you know that? If not, then how can you claim to be competent to work for any sort of Japanese restaurant?

[najibs]

I take exception to that statement. Ignoring the silliness and troll-like nature of the op's posts, there is no way I can believe that what you're saying is legal.

Well, me being latino, if I were to have my own Latin restaurant and I only wanted latino staff working there for obvious reasons, I would. Sure, you may not be latino and STILL be qualified, however based on the fact that I have people with the same qualifications as you that are latino I'd hire them instead simply because they would be a better fit for the job because they'd understand the food and the culture better, which gives them a competitive advantage. In the restaurant industry it's tough to argue that you're a better fit into the position than someone else.

The OP feels he's qualified for the job, which he may very well be, however admitting that the only thing he knows in Korean is Kimchi, gives him a competitive disadvantage for the position when compared to hiring Koreans. Lets not confuse that with discrimination.

Lets face it, working in a restaurant doesn't exactly require someone skilled, unless it's a more upscale place. If the person hiring simply didn't feel he was a good fit, then so be it. I think the OP just has sour grapes because he didn't get it his way, and with his arrogance, I'm not surprised. He'd be lucky if I'd even consider him for scrubbing toilets down.

[Bskll]

I take exception to that statement. Ignoring the silliness and troll-like nature of the op's posts, there is no way I can believe that what you're saying is legal.

restaurant is private business, not federally regulated, and the so-called discrimination is for natures of work, not just on the basis of your race. I don't see why this restaurant's policy wouldn't float in court.

If anything, this would be a cultural discrimination and not a racial one. I'm sure the restaurant owner would hire another Korean who was qualified for the job.

[Bskll]

and also, seems like everyone keeps forgetting this OP's threads in computer section. Would one of the admins check his ip, make sure its not K_K.

[Flyer]

I see K_K is back...

[Tig]

I take exception to that statement. Ignoring the silliness and troll-like nature of the op's posts, there is no way I can believe that what you're saying is legal.

He's right. I interview and hire as well and I don't have to hire anyone that I don't want to even if it's because I don't like the way they look and no one can do anything about it. Obviously I'm not going to tell the candidate my reasons, they just don't get called back. It's that simple.

[YYZFA]

OP, you're an idiot. Why do you keep posting here? You had a job and you quit it before finding another job? You are looking for sympathy? Stop playing video games, and get some real life friends and some real life experiences. Putting StarCraft on your resume is not going to help you in the real world, when your parents finally have enough and kick you to the curb.

Didn't your parents put an internet blocking program on your computer? Seriously, how pathetic do you have to be for that to happen? I'm curious as to how old you are.

[najibs]

He's right. I interview and hire as well and I don't have to hire anyone that I don't want to even if it's because I don't like the way they look and no one can do anything about it. Obviously I'm not going to tell the candidate my reasons, they just don't get called back. It's that simple.

Absolutely, and again, as someone who hires, just because someone has the necessary qualifications doesn't mean it's reason enough to get hired. There's other reasons to it. If I feel they won't fit in with the culture of my current staff and the organization and can disrupt the work environment, then that's reason enough not to hire them.

If I don't feel they're professional enough because they didn't come dressed approppriately for an interview, that MAY also be a reason. Hiring isn't a science, it's an art. It's all about how you feel about the person you are interviewing and the vibe they give out. Sometimes people get jobs WITHOUT having the necessary qualifications, but because of certain attributes, they get hired and succeed because it's in their nature.

[Tig]

absolutely, and again, as someone who hires, just because someone has the necessary qualifications doesn't mean it's reason enough to get hired. There's other reasons to it. If i feel they won't fit in with the culture of my current staff and the organization and can disrupt the work environment, then that's reason enough not to hire them.

If i don't feel they're professional enough because they didn't come dressed approppriately for an interview, that may also be a reason. Hiring isn't a science, it's an art. It's all about how you feel about the person you are interviewing and the vibe they give out. Sometimes people get jobs without having the necessary qualifications, but because of certain attributes, they get hired and succeed because it's in their nature.

+1

[YYZFA]

I take exception to that statement. Ignoring the silliness and troll-like nature of the op's posts, there is no way I can believe that what you're saying is legal.

There are some jobs where speaking a specific foreign language is a legitimate requirement. I agree with you that needing to speak Korean, because the other staff speak Korean doesn't sound legit, but do you honestly think that this is why the OP didn't get the job? I highly doubt it. If he comes off even half as ego-centric in person as he does online, then he undoubtedly killed his chances himself.

[grape]

strong hate. lol

[Akraz]

you got interviewed, you didnt meet their requirement (within the law) so time to move on... McDick pays quite well to flip burgers...

Quit being so emo all the time.... Starcraft 2 is not coming out for another year and you dont need a 30" screen to play starcraft.

stop being so spoiled and listen to your parents

@45ED pretty much the same thread...

Couldn't have said it better myself.

@OP:
You sound like a little spoiled brat who can't contain his tantrum when he doesn't get something he wants.

As a professional computer consultant/IT worker, I've been a hardcore PC gamer for a long time now while maintaining a very good job and work ethics.. (at least 10 years) and I am telling you now, you do NOT need a 30'' screen to play starcraft 2. Nor do you need a "decked-out i7 rig".

This just sounds silly in my opinion. A 22-24'' is fine enough to play any game. I dont even recommend playing any RTS games on a 30'' screen, you wont be able to even see your units.

As for your job application, you don't speak korean, why would you want to work there? Stop whining. Why would you quit when you dont even have a job?

edit: It's funny he hasnt even replied to his own thread yet.

[sweeper]

But how could the Korean manager NOT hire you, should have brought your keyboard and demonstrated your micro.

TBH, you're an idiot.

[45ED]

Couldn't have said it better myself.

@OP:
You sound like a little spoiled brat who can't contain his tantrum when he doesn't get something he wants.

As a professional computer consultant/IT worker, I've been a hardcore PC gamer for a long time now while maintaining a very good job and work ethics.. (at least 10 years) and I am telling you now, you do NOT need a 30'' screen to play starcraft 2. Nor do you need a "decked-out i7 rig".

This just sounds silly in my opinion. A 22-24'' is fine enough to play any game. I dont even recommend playing any RTS games on a 30'' screen, you wont be able to even see your units.

As for your job application, you don't speak korean, why would you want to work there? Stop whining. Why would you quit when you dont even have a job?

edit: It's funny he hasnt even replied to his own thread yet.

'Cause he knows what's comin' to him. :twisted:

[madman604]

how much you wanna bet this kid quits whatever job he has as soon as he has the $ for his 30" lcd and gaming rig?

"Son, why'd you quit your job?"

"because i have to go on a raid. it will take 6 hours and my boss wouldn't give me time off. LEEEROY JENKINSSS!"

[Lone_Prodigy]

If you mentioned Starcraft at your interview, they would've hired you on the spot, being Korean and all. You can discuss Zergrushes to your heart's content while working. Even better, you may meet a cute girl that works there and get a Korean girlfriend. Then you'll have it made. :twisted:

(Obviously joking. If this is the only job where he got an interview then he needs to work on his resume.)

[Jon Lai]

On a side note, I'm glad he's moving on to SC2. TF2 isn't even a real game.

[najibs]

The only way the OP could have overcome his arrogance and redeemed himself is if he had a Korean girlfriend. Then again, considering the amount fo time he spends on his computer and the importance it plays in his life, he'll be lucky if he ever loses his virginity :twisted:

[jhan]

OP can't be serious, right? I mean, he can't be serious..

[Magoo]

OP can't be serious, right? I mean, he can't be serious..

Exactly... this has got to be a joke.

[45ED]

The only way the OP could have overcome his arrogance and redeemed himself is if he had a Korean girlfriend :twisted:

I love how he said he was going to "[sacrifice his] gaming in order to be social and make new friends (http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?p=9192774)" but now wants to get a "better job" to purchase a bigger screen for SC2. How time flies in a span of 18-ish days, eh? Some sacrifice you made.

Bigger screen, decked out system: guess you haven't given up on your pro gamer dream, yes?

Just checking in for a brief moment sice I'm trying to limit my computer usage. The last few weeks has been the most tumultuous, herky jerky moments in my life.. bar none!
For better or worse I'm trying to get my act together and reshape my life.
I don't want this to sound like an episode of Intervention on A&E but I totally broke down and have become a basket case. I never told anyone this but I've held so much bottled hate and rage to my parents for pulling these manipulative stunts with my computer/internet. But for now I'm trying to cope and hold my resentment and anger, god willing.

Parents decided to book an appointment for me to go see my family doctor because they are worried about my behavior. After the visit it turns out I am suffering from depression so he prescribed me 200 Cap Novo-Venlafaxine XR 150MG which I'm to take 2 capsules with meals. I really don't think I am depressed but I guess my doctor thinks otherwise!
I will admit I have issues with having no real life friends and this troubles me because how am I supposed to find a girlfriend? The only 'real' friends I can call my amigos are my TF2 clan mates (who have always been there for me regardless) The thing that makes me enraged to the point of no return is when I see couples out in public. How happy they are and they try to wave it in every single single person's face. There's so much stuff that p******* me off and I'm very very temperamental.

And just to end this on a high note there's a good chance I'll be getting a pt. job picking and selling blueberries. Not something I wanna be doing especially considering how lame of a job it is but I'm desperate for cash and parents are using the excuse that they won't give me any more money because they are paying for my meds/pills. I'm also looking to save up for a new i7 rig and want to travel to Korea when I make the gradual transition into a pro online gamer. Not saying this is a walk in the park but I've got the sheer talent and doggone will to succeed and I will.

As for the people who don't understand my state of mind, all I can say is don't judge a book by its cover. Next time you're in need of help I might decide to recite to you a famous Chinese proverb to get you to understand. I believe in karma and yeah.. don't be so quick to judgement especially those with all the negative sentiments.

In closing it would be a huge disservice not to thank those marginal few who have gave helpful advice. Everyone else will have their time at the time of judgement. Even though I'm not Christian I believe God is the only person that can judge another human being.

We (re:the rest of us) can wax on and on when it comes to your situation, but it's not like you'll listen to us so why bother posting for advice you're never going to consider? All you want to do is have fun and not work at all. You don't want a serious job, you don't like "labour-type jobs" - picky, picky, picky. But you want an easy job that pays well - whiny, whiny, whiny. You have it easy.

Your parents are paying for your meds - do you know how expensive that sh*t can get? Your medicine, your shelter, your food - courtesy of your parents. Get a backbone, child. You have everything you need: shelter, food, clothes, water, supportive parents, a job, money, and more. It seems you're too arrogant/(pick your own adjective) to realize that.

Wow, honestly I came here looking for a solution and not a moral lecture on responsibilities. Before you guys blindly lecture me I think it would be wise to first look this through my point of view.

I know I started on the wrong foot yet everyone wants to persecute me for things that was done in the past. Can we move on already? Its not impossible to give people 2nd chances, right? A lot of you just don't realize the magnitude TF2 and professional online gaming has on me. It's something I want to strive towards as a career like some of the worlds best i.e Xds'Grrr..., Slayer'sBoxer, Heaton, Spawn, Potti etc.. But you would have to be a Starcraft/CS junkie to realize this. Like I said in the past I am considered by many of my fellow clan mates (who can vouch for me) that I am the single deadliest and most lethal sniper in the world. After each round I'm always the clear cut winner by huge margins with scores as high as 700k-90D(pubs) When starcraft 2 comes out I will start playing that and hopefully get good enough to move to Korea to compete.

As for my job situation I know its vital to get the cash rolling but I'm very very picky at what kind of job will suffice. I'm not doing any labor type jobs frankly I'd rather live on minimum wage. Not only that but I have semi-bad back so I'd probably hurt myself. I wanna find a job that pays well and thats fun like maybe work at EA sports since their headquarters is in Vancouver. And I as for the living off parents issue... Yeah of course they are gonna support me since I have no job. Not supporting their own child.. how irresponsible would that be?

Not everyone is the same and in this respect I actually respect individualism.
If you guys work hard and pay for everything yourself and are independently secure then my hats off to u guys. Thats just not my style.
So I just clarified to you guys my situation in a nutshell.
Now can we please stop with the constant verbal assault?
I just want to solve this stupid problem instead of arguing and bickering so I can get back to playing TF2.

Sorry for being so brash and defensive but there's a lot of blame going around and not enough open mindedness. Like I reiterated, everyone's situation is different. Don't hold that fact against me.

You don't need a better job or more money - you need discipline. So don't ask for advice on going after a Korean-run Japanese restaurant just because you lack a key qualification to work there (speaking Korean) - there is a bigger issue at hand.

[brunes]

Basically I'm trying to save up for a 30" LCD plus a new I7 rig. This is gonna be my main gamer computer for when Starcraft 2 comes out.

...
Like he said I had to speak Korean because everyone on staff was Korean. Obviously thats an issue because I'm Chinese and the only Korean word I know is kimchi. But whats even more bizarre and questionable is how Korean people are running a Japanese restaurant. Talk about irony... but thats besides the point


Did you tell the Koreans that you were a big Starcraft fan during the interview? If so you probably would have had a much better shot at being hired.

( I am only 1/3 joking )

[DGTD]

K i m c h i

[MrDisco]

Sure, you may not be latino and STILL be qualified, however based on the fact that I have people with the same qualifications as you that are latino I'd hire them instead simply because they would be a better fit for the job because they'd understand the food and the culture better,

Again, ignoring the op because I find him to be rather tiresome with his video game dramas, the problem with your example is that here we have Koreans running a Japanese restaurant. Clearly the issue of culture doesn't really apply.

What if a brown guy applied who happened to be expertly trained in Japanese cuisine. Using your example that competitive advantage you speak of has just been shown the door because of racial bias.

As long as the two official languages are English and French, I don't see how any business can exclude a qualified candidate based on race (key word being qualified of course).

restaurant is private business, not federally regulated, and the so-called discrimination is for natures of work, not just on the basis of your race. I don't see why this restaurant's policy wouldn't float in court.

Not sure I understand you. Are you agreeing with me or Najibs?

There are some jobs where speaking a specific foreign language is a legitimate requirement. I agree with you that needing to speak Korean, because the other staff speak Korean doesn't sound legit, but do you honestly think that this is why the OP didn't get the job?

Well like I said I don't really care about the op. Even if he did speak Korean I have doubts they would hire him. I just found the statement that Najib posted to be interesting and worth commenting on.

But I agree for some jobs the lanugage could be the only requirement. if I was hiring a Russian translator I would want someone who was fluent in the language. What I shouldn't be able to do is exclude a non-Russian from the position however.

Having said all of the above I could be completely wrong; perhaps prov/fed labour laws would run counter to my opinion.

[gman]

Well, me being latino, if I were to have my own Latin restaurant and I only wanted latino staff working there for obvious reasons, I would. Sure, you may not be latino and STILL be qualified, however based on the fact that I have people with the same qualifications as you that are latino I'd hire them instead simply because they would be a better fit for the job because they'd understand the food and the culture better, which gives them a competitive advantage. In the restaurant industry it's tough to argue that you're a better fit into the position than someone else.

The OP feels he's qualified for the job, which he may very well be, however admitting that the only thing he knows in Korean is Kimchi, gives him a competitive disadvantage for the position when compared to hiring Koreans. Lets not confuse that with discrimination.

Lets face it, working in a restaurant doesn't exactly require someone skilled, unless it's a more upscale place. If the person hiring simply didn't feel he was a good fit, then so be it. I think the OP just has sour grapes because he didn't get it his way, and with his arrogance, I'm not surprised. He'd be lucky if I'd even consider him for scrubbing toilets down.

Are you saying you will pick a Latino who knows nothing about Latino culture over one who is not Latino but actually lives under Latino culture in his life?

What you specified are extra qualification needed. That is fair. Just being a Latino does not mean he will automatically qualify or being non-Latino does not mean he won't be qualified. Unless you add the 'face' to be your qualification too.

restaurant is private business, not federally regulated, and the so-called discrimination is for natures of work, not just on the basis of your race. I don't see why this restaurant's policy wouldn't float in court.

If anything, this would be a cultural discrimination and not a racial one. I'm sure the restaurant owner would hire another Korean who was qualified for the job.

I assume he won't hire a Korean who cannot speak Korean. If he hires a Korean who cannot speak Korean instead of a (say) Chinese who can speak perfect Korean and lived in Korea most of his life, I would say it is a racial discrimination.

[gman]

As long as the two official languages are English and French, I don't see how any business can exclude a qualified candidate based on race (key word being qualified of course).

Of course it can, every job has its requirement. If its requirement is you have to speak Korean, you have to speak Korean to qualify. If the requirement needs you to know about "C" programming language, you have to know "C" to qualify. If the requirement needs you to be a MBA,, you need to have a MBA.

The key in here is the ability to speak Korean instead of being Korean.

EDIT: I guess I agree with you after re-read it because you say 'race'.

[MrDisco]

If its requirement is you have to speak Korean, you have to speak Korean to qualify.

It's a Japanese restaurant. Where does Korean fit in? The requirement here is that he should know how to cook Japanese food (which would be analogous to knowing how to program in C, that being the skill involved to do the job).

Frankly it wouldn't be my concern that the owners are not fluent in our official languages. The issue at stake is fairness and discrimination.

[najibs]

As long as the two official languages are English and French, I don't see how any business can exclude a qualified candidate based on race (key word being qualified of course).



Every business discriminates to a certain point when hiring someone. What if my business was photographing models for magazine ads and flyers...if I had a 300 pound woman come in because she knew how to pose, and had posed in plus sized magazines, but I didn't hire her because I considered her to be overweight, and hired a 150 pound woman instead, then according to your example she could sue me for 'weight discrimination' because she has qualified experience, and it's in canada and speaks both languages.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

[gman]

It's a Japanese restaurant. Where does Korean fit in? The requirement here is that he should know how to cook Japanese food (which would be analogous to knowing how to program in C, that being the skill involved to do the job).

Frankly it wouldn't be my concern that the owners are not fluent in our official languages. The issue at stake is fairness and discrimination.

Because the company is run by Korean and their company language is Korean. They stated the requirement is to speak Korean. That is their requirement. The requirement has nothing to do with race. I don't see there is anything wrong with that.

Where does Korean fit in Japanese restaurant? As I said, Korea was occupied by Japan for a long time. Their culture (including food culture) had been affected by Japanese culture. That is the reason there are many Korean/Japanese restaurant. Before Chinese taking a big share of Japanese restaurant market in GTA, many Japanese restaurants in GTA were run by Korean. The Korean/Japanese restaurant popped out in GTA after the Chinese started to run a lot of Japanese restaurant so that they can be 'different'.

[Menace]

Yes, looking for a job for a so so reason. a 30" LCD TV and a I7 rig.



I do agree, you have a HUGE problem and probably more than one.

[nogoro]

we should take this post with a grain of salt; after all it is in OT not careers.

I was a bit offended by the negative remarks about blueberry picking. There are lots of people who do agricultural work full-time and they should be respected.

The store owner is just a poor interviewer. The way to ask this question would be "we have a few staff who have limited understanding of english, and we also serve a primarily korean clientele. Can you speak korean?"

Many jobs, especially in ethnic locations, list specifically "Ability to speak (language) is an asset". So I doubt this is an illegal requirement. If two people are similarly qualified and one is also able to speak the preferred extra language, that person has an advantage.

[MrDisco]

then according to your example she could sue me for 'weight discrimination' because she has qualified experience, and it's in canada and speaks both languages.


No because the nature of the job requires a certain look. Just like flight attendants have certain physical standards they must meet in order to be hired (correct me if I'm wrong). It would be reasonable to exclude candidates because they wouldn't have the skill or traits required to complete the job required.

The sticking point with me on this issue is that it's a Japanese restaurant. It has nothing to do with speaking Korean. The only skill or trait required is that he know how to cook Japanese food. Just because the owners have a language barrier is kind of their problem. Knowing how to speak Korean does not mean I can cook the food any better/worse then the next guy.

Why not use a different example. What if they ran a convenience store (apologies for the stereotype). There is absolutely no cultural significance involved here. Are you still saying it would be acceptable for them to not hire non-Koreans people because they didn't speak their native tongue? Please don't make me type 'slippery slope'.

Because the company is run by Korean and their company language is Korean.

See above. The languages of this country is English and French. I don't really care what language they choose to internally communicate in so long as it's not discriminatory against potentially qualified chefs.

[Akraz]

If you mentioned Starcraft at your interview, they would've hired you on the spot, being Korean and all. You can discuss Zergrushes to your heart's content while working.

You sir, win 5000 internets. You just made my day with this comment.

[45ED]

we should take this post with a grain of salt;after all it is in OT not careers.

I was a bit offended by the negative remarks about blueberry picking. There are lots of people who do agricultural work full-time and they should be respected.

The store owner is just a poor interviewer. The way to ask this question would be "we have a few staff who have limited understanding of english, and we also serve a primarily korean clientele. Can you speak korean?"

Many jobs, especially in ethnic locations, list specifically "Ability to speak (language) is an asset". So I doubt this is an illegal requirement. If two people are similarly qualified and one is also able to speak the preferred extra language, that person has an advantage.

Under different circumstances, we'd all be asking, "is OP for real?". But given his previous threads on his "devotion to gaming", it is definitely real. Further, even if it was in the Careers section, it wouldn't be right (in placement) as his threads are less about jobs/careers and more about gaming. Even his non-OT threads are gaming related (talking of games and computer parts and the like).

[firesword2007]

OP you never fail to amuse.

[CSAgent]

Maybe he should fake a kidnapping because he didn't get hired. He can maybe at least try to get ransom money for himself to buy his toys?

Too soon? :lol:

[BananaHunter]

What I don't like about this generation is how everyone thinks they are entitled to "fairness". I'd say speaking the same language as everyone else in the company is a VERY reasonable job requirement. What you wrote shows that you don't think from the employer's perspective, which automatically makes you a poor candidate for any job. Whether you are good for the job or not, it's not up to you to decide. You obviously think too highly of yourself if you think you know better than the manager about being a good fit.

About the point of Koreans running a Japanese restaurant, in case you haven't noticed, Chinese people also run a lot of the Japanese restaurants. Why don't you apply to a Japanese restaurant run by Chinese?

You should be grateful that you even got an interview. They probably knew you weren't Korean based on your resume name and thought they'd give you a shot. IMO, you probably got rejected for another reason and the interviewer was not comfortable directly telling you so they pulled the "language card". If language really mattered, they could have confirmed on the phone before the interview.

Someday I hope you can look at this situation and realize how pointless your rant is. Nearly every asian restaurant hire people of the same race. And you'll definitely run into more of the same situation in the future. Get used to it.

[gman]

The sticking point with me on this issue is that it's a Japanese restaurant. It has nothing to do with speaking Korean. The only skill or trait required is that he know how to cook Japanese food. Just because the owners have a language barrier is kind of their problem. Knowing how to speak Korean does not mean I can cook the food any better/worse then the next guy.
First, it is NOT the owner has a language barrier. It is the entire existing staff has a language barrier. The issue is about communication and it is not about doing the job (at least not yet).

Even if only the owner has knowledge barrier, I don't see why he can't add speaking Korean as a requirement.

If I hire people with my own requirement which is not against Charter of right, I don't see anything wrong. My requirement can be speaking English, French, Japanese, Chinese, Korean, Russian and German, etc if I choose to.


Why not use a different example. What if they ran a convenience store (apologies for the stereotype). There is absolutely no cultural significance involved here. Are you still saying it would be acceptable for them to not hire non-Koreans people because they didn't speak their native tongue? Please don't make me type 'slippery slope'.


I personally say it is acceptable for them to not hire non-Korean speaking people (not just non-Korean) because they require their staff to speak Korean. If the owner feels it is important for its staff to be able to speak Korean and it is a requirement, I don't see why not. Yes, I am talking about a convenience store.


See above. The languages of this country is English and French. I don't really care what language they choose to internally communicate in so long as it's not discriminatory against potentially qualified chefs.
This is NOT a government job. Official language means next to nothing in private sector. What you said is your opinion and I don't see it breaks any law.

I don't understand why you said you don't really what language they choose to internally communicate because communication is important for almost any job.

[CSAgent]

I can see it now.

Owner: Maenu chom kattajuseyo.
OP: What?
Owner: Maenu chom kattajuseyo!!
OP: Come again? Que pasa?
Owner: OP ? ?? ????! (OP neun mi-chin naw-mi-jah-nah!)

[Usuyami]

No because the nature of the job requires a certain look. Just like flight attendants have certain physical standards they must meet in order to be hired (correct me if I'm wrong). It would be reasonable to exclude candidates because they wouldn't have the skill or traits required to complete the job required.

The sticking point with me on this issue is that it's a Japanese restaurant. It has nothing to do with speaking Korean. The only skill or trait required is that he know how to cook Japanese food. Just because the owners have a language barrier is kind of their problem. Knowing how to speak Korean does not mean I can cook the food any better/worse then the next guy.

Why not use a different example. What if they ran a convenience store (apologies for the stereotype). There is absolutely no cultural significance involved here. Are you still saying it would be acceptable for them to not hire non-Koreans people because they didn't speak their native tongue? Please don't make me type 'slippery slope'.



See above. The languages of this country is English and French. I don't really care what language they choose to internally communicate in so long as it's not discriminatory against potentially qualified chefs.

I think you are focusing on the Japanese restaurant part a little too much. If their clientele is mainly Korean, then it would be a huge asset for any worker to also speak Korean. It's the same with any job and any language.

[3121983]

I'm all for serious, lively in depth discussion but this has gone from a simple request for advice to an all out tactile flame war directed to me and my passion for gaming. As I reiterated in my original post, please be respectful. Like the old saying goes "if you have nothing good to say then don't say anything"
I didn't want this discussion to spiral into the depths of the murky abyss but a select few have done just that! Gaming is something I take very serious and I'd love nothing more than to live out my dream and be playing professionally, however right now its not feasible. And trust me, I'm good enough to go pro despite what you may or may not think. Might sound egotistical but I've put in the hours and you get what you put in to whatever it is you're passionate about.

That aside let try to steer back into the issue at hand.
The Korean manager was purposely discriminating myself from applying solely on the basis of not being able to speak Korean. Last time I checked we lived in a multi cultural country known as Canada. What that means is that everyone has a right to be here and live in Canada. In Canada our primary language is English. There's even tests that have to be taken to be a Canadian citizen. What infuriates me is the discrimination and utter disrespect from a guy who probably immigrated here. If anything he should know that English and not Korean is the primary language. If the manager wanted to hire me only if I could speak Korean then that obviously means I'm being discriminated against. I have all the tools and necessary qualifications to do the job and working in a restaurant ain't rocket science.

The reason I am livid and up in arms is not because I didn't get this job. It is the blatant refusal and illegal practices that prevented me from getting a job. Simple as that. I am taking this personally because this is just ridiculous. I need this job so I can save money because once school starts I'll have to look for a part time job. The two together is too hard considering I also organize a Clan team that scrims which takes a huge chunk of my time.

Anyone who says I'm being stuck up, immature, stupid, irresponsible, irrational just doesn't understand. Maybe if you were in my shoes you'd see things from my perspective. Like I said, you don't know me but I am a good guy in real life. Plus I already apologized for the past stuff which people keep on bringing up. Forget it already cause its a dead issue.

[gman]

That aside let try to steer back into the issue at hand.
The Korean manager was purposely discriminating myself from applying solely on the basis of not being able to speak Korean. Last time I checked we lived in a multi cultural country known as Canada. What that means is that everyone has a right to be here and live in Canada. In Canada our primary language is English. There's even tests that have to be taken to be a Canadian citizen. What infuriates me is the discrimination and utter disrespect from a guy who probably immigrated here. If anything he should know that English and not Korean is the primary language. If the manager wanted to hire me only if I could speak Korean then that obviously means I'm being discriminated against. I have all the tools and necessary qualifications to do the job and working in a restaurant ain't rocket science.


Which law did he break? Every job has its requirement and the requirement is set by the employer. If the requirement says you need to speak Russian, you need to able to speak Russian. You don't need be a Russian. Discrimination of lacking of a required ability is legal.

[noob666]

I'm all for serious, lively in depth discussion but this has gone from a simple request for advice to an all out tactile flame war directed to me and my passion for gaming. As I reiterated in my original post, please be respectful. Like the old saying goes "if you have nothing good to say then don't say anything"
I didn't want this discussion to spiral into the depths of the murky abyss but a select few have done just that! Gaming is something I take very serious and I'd love nothing more than to live out my dream and be playing professionally, however right now its not feasible. And trust me, I'm good enough to go pro despite what you may or may not think. Might sound egotistical but I've put in the hours and you get what you put in to whatever it is you're passionate about.
That aside let try to steer back into the issue at hand.
The Korean manager was purposely discriminating myself from applying solely on the basis of not being able to speak Korean. Last time I checked we lived in a multi cultural country known as Canada. What that means is that everyone has a right to be here and live in Canada. In Canada our primary language is English. There's even tests that have to be taken to be a Canadian citizen. What infuriates me is the discrimination and utter disrespect from a guy who probably immigrated here. If anything he should know that English and not Korean is the primary language. If the manager wanted to hire me only if I could speak Korean then that obviously means I'm being discriminated against. I have all the tools and necessary qualifications to do the job and working in a restaurant ain't rocket science.

The reason I am livid and up in arms is not because I didn't get this job. It is the blatant refusal and illegal practices that prevented me from getting a job. Simple as that. I am taking this personally because this is just ridiculous. I need this job so I can save money because once school starts I'll have to look for a part time job. The two together is too hard considering I also organize a Clan team that scrims which takes a huge chunk of my time.

Anyone who says I'm being stuck up, immature, stupid, irresponsible, irrational just doesn't understand. Maybe if you were in my shoes you'd see things from my perspective. Like I said, you don't know me but I am a good guy in real life. Plus I already apologized for the past stuff which people keep on bringing up. Forget it already cause its a dead issue.

we all think about that when we were kid :D

i was beating everyone in SF2, 3 hours non-stop without losing a single match at Eglinton/Midland acade.........

but i turn out getting a real job like everyone else.......

[siriuskao]

I truly hope your birth year is not 1983. Time to get a real job ... lol

[JBlue]

Maybe he should fake a kidnapping because he didn't get hired. He can maybe at least try to get ransom money for himself to buy his toys?

Too soon? :lol:

FOr shizzle.. pretty bad self entitlement on the OP. Hope he jsut creates a new RFD account.

[JBlue]

I'm all for serious, lively in depth discussion but this has gone from a simple request for advice to an all out tactile flame war directed to me and my passion for gaming. As I reiterated in my original post, please be respectful. Like the old saying goes "if you have nothing good to say then don't say anything"
I didn't want this discussion to spiral into the depths of the murky abyss but a select few have done just that! Gaming is something I take very serious and I'd love nothing more than to live out my dream and be playing professionally, however right now its not feasible. And trust me, I'm good enough to go pro despite what you may or may not think. Might sound egotistical but I've put in the hours and you get what you put in to whatever it is you're passionate about.

That aside let try to steer back into the issue at hand.
The Korean manager was purposely discriminating myself from applying solely on the basis of not being able to speak Korean. Last time I checked we lived in a multi cultural country known as Canada. What that means is that everyone has a right to be here and live in Canada. In Canada our primary language is English. There's even tests that have to be taken to be a Canadian citizen. What infuriates me is the discrimination and utter disrespect from a guy who probably immigrated here. If anything he should know that English and not Korean is the primary language. If the manager wanted to hire me only if I could speak Korean then that obviously means I'm being discriminated against. I have all the tools and necessary qualifications to do the job and working in a restaurant ain't rocket science.

The reason I am livid and up in arms is not because I didn't get this job. It is the blatant refusal and illegal practices that prevented me from getting a job. Simple as that. I am taking this personally because this is just ridiculous. I need this job so I can save money because once school starts I'll have to look for a part time job. The two together is too hard considering I also organize a Clan team that scrims which takes a huge chunk of my time.

Anyone who says I'm being stuck up, immature, stupid, irresponsible, irrational just doesn't understand. Maybe if you were in my shoes you'd see things from my perspective. Like I said, you don't know me but I am a good guy in real life. Plus I already apologized for the past stuff which people keep on bringing up. Forget it already cause its a dead issue.

STOP POSTING.. You have about 15+ members telling you why your logic is FLAWED and you are soo way off base you need to concentrate in school and learn why you are sounding stupid.

[45ED]

I truly hope your birth year is not 1983. Time to get a real job ... lol

You thinking what I've been thinkin' eh? That he used his D.O.B. for his username? :lol:

[gman]

You thinking what I've been thinkin' eh? That he used his D.O.B. for his username? :lol:

Hmmm! 26 and still needs to con the parents to get a PC? May be he had a typo when he created the account. ;)

[sweeper]

I'm all for serious, lively in depth discussion but this has gone from a simple request for advice to an all out tactile flame war directed to me and my passion for gaming. As I reiterated in my original post, please be respectful. Like the old saying goes "if you have nothing good to say then don't say anything"
I didn't want this discussion to spiral into the depths of the murky abyss but a select few have done just that! Gaming is something I take very serious and I'd love nothing more than to live out my dream and be playing professionally, however right now its not feasible. And trust me, I'm good enough to go pro despite what you may or may not think. Might sound egotistical but I've put in the hours and you get what you put in to whatever it is you're passionate about.

That aside let try to steer back into the issue at hand.
The Korean manager was purposely discriminating myself from applying solely on the basis of not being able to speak Korean. Last time I checked we lived in a multi cultural country known as Canada. What that means is that everyone has a right to be here and live in Canada. In Canada our primary language is English. There's even tests that have to be taken to be a Canadian citizen. What infuriates me is the discrimination and utter disrespect from a guy who probably immigrated here. If anything he should know that English and not Korean is the primary language. If the manager wanted to hire me only if I could speak Korean then that obviously means I'm being discriminated against. I have all the tools and necessary qualifications to do the job and working in a restaurant ain't rocket science.

The reason I am livid and up in arms is not because I didn't get this job. It is the blatant refusal and illegal practices that prevented me from getting a job. Simple as that. I am taking this personally because this is just ridiculous. I need this job so I can save money because once school starts I'll have to look for a part time job. The two together is too hard considering I also organize a Clan team that scrims which takes a huge chunk of my time.

I am being stuck up, immature, stupid, irresponsible, irrational just doesn't understand. Maybe if you were in my shoes you'd see things from my perspective. Like I said, you don't know me but I am a good guy in real life. Plus I already apologized for the past stuff which people keep on bringing up. Forget it already cause its a dead issue.


http://sleekupload.com/uploads_jpg/20/facepalm_4.jpg

[ZxExN]

Trying to scam your parents for money to buy yourself a computer for gaming purposes has invalidated all your desparate attempts to sound mature. Just grow up.

[45ED]

Hmmm! 26 and still needs to con the parents to get a PC? May be he had a typo when he created the account. ;)

Implications doesn't bode well for him either way: if he was 26 then this situation gives the appearance of an utter loser with border-line hikkomori tendencies. And if he's younger, the situation implies a angry, misguided male with lofty dreams (re:delusions of grandeur).

If it is, in fact, his DOB with a typo, then that's good. Because, IMO, the former scenario is much worse than the latter.

[Devious]

I find it awesome^2 that in the same post you discriminate against 'younger crowd', and then complain about your own treatment.


Secondly I am looking for detailed, wise and thoughtful advice from more of the mature people who know a thing or two about how things work. I don't want any advice from younger crowd no offense or anything.

I know about equal employment opportunities and I know I am being 'shafted' here. What can I do or where can I complain about the mistreatment. Because I know I am qualified for the job but I am being discriminated against because I can't speak Korean. This basically deflated my

[sweeper]

How old are you?

[czhe]

nihongo ga hanasenai no ha omae no se darou?

[kilarney]

I'm all for serious, lively in depth discussion but this has gone from a simple request for advice to an all out tactile flame war directed to me and my passion for gaming. As I reiterated in my original post, please be respectful. Like the old saying goes "if you have nothing good to say then don't say anything"
I didn't want this discussion to spiral into the depths of the murky abyss but a select few have done just that! Gaming is something I take very serious and I'd love nothing more than to live out my dream and be playing professionally, however right now its not feasible. And trust me, I'm good enough to go pro despite what you may or may not think. Might sound egotistical but I've put in the hours and you get what you put in to whatever it is you're passionate about.

That aside let try to steer back into the issue at hand.
The Korean manager was purposely discriminating myself from applying solely on the basis of not being able to speak Korean. Last time I checked we lived in a multi cultural country known as Canada. What that means is that everyone has a right to be here and live in Canada. In Canada our primary language is English. There's even tests that have to be taken to be a Canadian citizen. What infuriates me is the discrimination and utter disrespect from a guy who probably immigrated here. If anything he should know that English and not Korean is the primary language. If the manager wanted to hire me only if I could speak Korean then that obviously means I'm being discriminated against. I have all the tools and necessary qualifications to do the job and working in a restaurant ain't rocket science.

The reason I am livid and up in arms is not because I didn't get this job. It is the blatant refusal and illegal practices that prevented me from getting a job. Simple as that. I am taking this personally because this is just ridiculous. I need this job so I can save money because once school starts I'll have to look for a part time job. The two together is too hard considering I also organize a Clan team that scrims which takes a huge chunk of my time.

Anyone who says I'm being stuck up, immature, stupid, irresponsible, irrational just doesn't understand. Maybe if you were in my shoes you'd see things from my perspective. Like I said, you don't know me but I am a good guy in real life. Plus I already apologized for the past stuff which people keep on bringing up. Forget it already cause its a dead issue.

http://www.fallen-legion.eu/news/data/upimages/DoubleFacePalm.jpg

[Bskll]

Again, ignoring the op because I find him to be rather tiresome with his video game dramas, the problem with your example is that here we have Koreans running a Japanese restaurant. Clearly the issue of culture doesn't really apply.

What if a brown guy applied who happened to be expertly trained in Japanese cuisine. Using your example that competitive advantage you speak of has just been shown the door because of racial bias.

As long as the two official languages are English and French, I don't see how any business can exclude a qualified candidate based on race (key word being qualified of course).



Not sure I understand you. Are you agreeing with me or Najibs?



Well like I said I don't really care about the op. Even if he did speak Korean I have doubts they would hire him. I just found the statement that Najib posted to be interesting and worth commenting on.

But I agree for some jobs the lanugage could be the only requirement. if I was hiring a Russian translator I would want someone who was fluent in the language. What I shouldn't be able to do is exclude a non-Russian from the position however.

Having said all of the above I could be completely wrong; perhaps prov/fed labour laws would run counter to my opinion.

OP did state that the hiring manger requested fluency in Korean as a qualification. I guess the rest of us are kind of mixing up our words here. The hiring manager needed someone who speaks Korean and OP didn't speak any. Thus, it in and of itself is not a discriminatory practice. Of course, being a Korean would preclude a high likelihood of fluency in the language, which is why najibs and me keep saying korean/latino instead of specifying that it is someone who speaks the language needed for qualification. If the hiring manger had been telling the OP that he wanted to hiring a korean, then it would be ethnic discrimination, not racism, and not racial discrimination. korean is not a race, its a ethnic group. you wouldn't say British is a race would you?


Are you saying you will pick a Latino who knows nothing about Latino culture over one who is not Latino but actually lives under Latino culture in his life?

What you specified are extra qualification needed. That is fair. Just being a Latino does not mean he will automatically qualify or being non-Latino does not mean he won't be qualified. Unless you add the 'face' to be your qualification too.



I assume he won't hire a Korean who cannot speak Korean. If he hires a Korean who cannot speak Korean instead of a (say) Chinese who can speak perfect Korean and lived in Korea most of his life, I would say it is a racial discrimination.

but the hiring manager didn't do that, he told the OP he needed someone who speaks Korean.

[gman]

but the hiring manager didn't do that, he told the OP he needed someone who speaks Korean.

What is the difference between what you just said and what I said?

Right in the beginning, I said the speaking Korean is a requirement. Being Korean is not (as least OP did not mention that so far).

My reply you quoted was a reply for this:

If anything, this would be a cultural discrimination and not a racial one. I'm sure the restaurant owner would hire another Korean who was qualified for the job.

Being Korean does not mean he can speak Korean. If he hires another "Korean" who cannot speak Korean, it would be a racial discrimination.

[Bskll]

I'm all for serious, lively in depth discussion but this has gone from a simple request for advice to an all out tactile flame war directed to me and my passion for gaming. As I reiterated in my original post, please be respectful. Like the old saying goes "if you have nothing good to say then don't say anything"
I didn't want this discussion to spiral into the depths of the murky abyss but a select few have done just that! Gaming is something I take very serious and I'd love nothing more than to live out my dream and be playing professionally, however right now its not feasible. And trust me, I'm good enough to go pro despite what you may or may not think. Might sound egotistical but I've put in the hours and you get what you put in to whatever it is you're passionate about.

That aside let try to steer back into the issue at hand.
The Korean manager was purposely discriminating myself from applying solely on the basis of not being able to speak Korean. Last time I checked we lived in a multi cultural country known as Canada. What that means is that everyone has a right to be here and live in Canada. In Canada our primary language is English. There's even tests that have to be taken to be a Canadian citizen. What infuriates me is the discrimination and utter disrespect from a guy who probably immigrated here. If anything he should know that English and not Korean is the primary language. If the manager wanted to hire me only if I could speak Korean then that obviously means I'm being discriminated against. I have all the tools and necessary qualifications to do the job and working in a restaurant ain't rocket science.

The reason I am livid and up in arms is not because I didn't get this job. It is the blatant refusal and illegal practices that prevented me from getting a job. Simple as that. I am taking this personally because this is just ridiculous. I need this job so I can save money because once school starts I'll have to look for a part time job. The two together is too hard considering I also organize a Clan team that scrims which takes a huge chunk of my time.

Anyone who says I'm being stuck up, immature, stupid, irresponsible, irrational just doesn't understand. Maybe if you were in my shoes you'd see things from my perspective. Like I said, you don't know me but I am a good guy in real life. Plus I already apologized for the past stuff which people keep on bringing up. Forget it already cause its a dead issue.

so what happens when someone orders pork bone soup in korean? you gonna look at them funny for 10 minutes until your manager tells you to pack your **** and go home?

why don't you take this restaurant to small claims court, i'm sure the money you win from this lawsuit will pay for what ever gaming rig you need.;)

What is the difference between what you said and what I said?

Right in the beginning, I said the speaking Korean is a requirement. Being Korean is not (as least not mentioned so far).

not much, just reaffirming what you said.

[TapemanPL]

you definitely need to set your priorities straight. you're only looking for a job to make some cash to get a gaming computer so that for the rest of the school year you can sit around and play sc2...and when you can't get a job you start crying on the internet...honestly get your **** together

[flexwong]

omg, it's K_K!!!! should have made that connection all along.

[makilla]

Jesus Christ..... gee how come he didnt want to hire you?? Lets see:
1. The entire staff speaks Korean
2. You dont speak Korean
This equation leaves us with an answer that you cant work there because you cant communicate with the rest of the staff. What did you expect? Is he supposed to fire his entire staff and hire people who speak English/Chinese just because of you, because you are so special?

Honestly I just cant comprehend how people can be like this. For your info, if someone else didnt mention it before I did, a lot of Japanese restaurants are held by Chinese people too, and some are held by Japanese (most of girls working are on working holiday in Canada, and they wont hire you unless you speak/look Japanese). Conclusion if you want to work in a Japanese restaurant be prepared to work at a Chinese-Japanese restaurant, of learn Korean/Japanese language.

[jk_9117]

i usually try not to offend anyone on the internet or to get in an argument, but you sir, are an idiot.

also, learn what irony means

[stealth]

Secondly I am looking for detailed, wise and thoughtful advice from more of the mature people who know a thing or two about how things work. I don't want any advice from younger crowd no offense or anything.

All the "mature" people stopped reading your post after this :
Basically I'm trying to save up for a 30" LCD plus a new I7 rig. This is gonna be my main gamer computer for when Starcraft 2 comes out. Unfortunately my parents won't buy me a new computer even though I tried to convince them they should buy me one for school. I had hoped this might get them to fork over the money for my new rig but no dice. They continue to nag me about computers is a waste of money and time blah blah blah..

Now I was working on a blueberry farm but the job just wasn't for me. Especially since the job required heavy physical labor and I was getting paid peanuts. I took it upon myself to look for another job that I am more suited for and that is much easier. I decided to apply at a restaurant joint.

[YYZFA]

I'm all for serious, lively in depth discussion but this has gone from a simple request for advice to an all out tactile flame war directed to me and my passion for gaming. As I reiterated in my original post, please be respectful. Like the old saying goes "if you have nothing good to say then don't say anything"
I didn't want this discussion to spiral into the depths of the murky abyss but a select few have done just that! Gaming is something I take very serious and I'd love nothing more than to live out my dream and be playing professionally, however right now its not feasible. And trust me, I'm good enough to go pro despite what you may or may not think. Might sound egotistical but I've put in the hours and you get what you put in to whatever it is you're passionate about.

That aside let try to steer back into the issue at hand.
The Korean manager was purposely discriminating myself from applying solely on the basis of not being able to speak Korean. Last time I checked we lived in a multi cultural country known as Canada. What that means is that everyone has a right to be here and live in Canada. In Canada our primary language is English. There's even tests that have to be taken to be a Canadian citizen. What infuriates me is the discrimination and utter disrespect from a guy who probably immigrated here. If anything he should know that English and not Korean is the primary language. If the manager wanted to hire me only if I could speak Korean then that obviously means I'm being discriminated against. I have all the tools and necessary qualifications to do the job and working in a restaurant ain't rocket science.

The reason I am livid and up in arms is not because I didn't get this job. It is the blatant refusal and illegal practices that prevented me from getting a job. Simple as that. I am taking this personally because this is just ridiculous. I need this job so I can save money because once school starts I'll have to look for a part time job. The two together is too hard considering I also organize a Clan team that scrims which takes a huge chunk of my time.

Anyone who says I'm being stuck up, immature, stupid, irresponsible, irrational just doesn't understand. Maybe if you were in my shoes you'd see things from my perspective. Like I said, you don't know me but I am a good guy in real life. Plus I already apologized for the past stuff which people keep on bringing up. Forget it already cause its a dead issue.

HAHAHAHAHAH! You are so funny! If you don't like stupid responses, you really shouldn't make stupid posts to begin with.

Oh, and again, no sympathy whatsoever for not having a job. You had one, but you quit it. Did you think you are too good for your previous job, because it entailed physical labour? That's fine, but why would you quit it before securing another one, and then complain that you are unemployed?

Sorry, but I feel free to comment on whatever information that you freely volunteer on this forum, regardless if you agree with it or not.

[sxz]

How do people still let themselves get trolled by this guy? Ignore him.

[makilla]

i usually try not to offend anyone on the internet or to get in an argument, but you sir, are an idiot.

also, learn what irony means

Good one, please remove yourself from the gene-pool.
Now.

[Piro21]

I have all the tools and necessary qualifications to do the job and working in a restaurant ain't rocket science.

What job were you going for at this restaurant? Most restaurant jobs aren't exactly slow-paced, and having to tackle a language barrier when it comes to coworkers and (most likely) the majority of customers isn't going to make it any easier for you to keep up. You being there would put a serious dent in the operations of the place, so it's a foregone conclusion the owner wouldn't hire you. If you really wanted a job that badly, you'd head to one of the countless Chinese restaurants out there and get a job at one of them instead of complaining that the Koreans are discriminating against you personally by not speaking English.

[YYZFA]

How do people still let themselves get trolled by this guy? Ignore him.

Because it's actually fun responding to these kinds of posts. Humourous. Anyway, I don't think he's intentionally trolling. If he is, then he's pretty good, so I'll give him that.

[Aristophanes]

I have a HUGE problem..
I applied to this hospital with good intentions. I gave the chief of staff my resume and asked if I could have an interview. He asked me some questions that didn't even pertain to the job which was unprofessional. Like he said I had to diagnose patients because people are sick and need medical attension. Obviously thats an issue because I'm an accountant and the only medical thing I know is Dr. House. But whats even more bizarre and questionable is how Administrators & doctors are running a hospital. Talk about irony... but thats besides the point

I know about equal employment opportunities and I know I am being 'shafted' here. What can I do or where can I complain about the mistreatment. Because I know I am qualified for the job but I am being discriminated against because I'm an accountant. This basically deflated my hope in getting a job and I am very disheartened. I really need money so I can buy my computer.

[Broseph]

I take exception to that statement. Ignoring the silliness and troll-like nature of the op's posts, there is no way I can believe that what you're saying is legal.Really? So if a Korean couple decides to only hire a Korean nanny that is also illegal right? :rolleyes:

[tet8suo]

How many restaurants are there in Surrey?

[gman]

Really? So if a Korean couple decides to only hire a Korean nanny that is also illegal right? :rolleyes:

Yes, that actually may cross the line.

The requirement should be something like this:

1. able to speak Korean
2. know Korean culture.
3. ability to read/write Korean
4. able to cook Korean food.
5. have Korean nanny training (whatever it is).
6. N years experience of Korean style (whatever it is) child care.

You should not state you need a Korean (as a race) nanny. Being Korean does not mean he/she automatically fulfill the above requirement. Being non-Korean does not mean he/she cannot fulfill the above requirement.

[Winkle]

That aside let try to steer back into the issue at hand.
The Korean manager was purposely discriminating myself from applying solely on the basis of not being able to speak Korean. Last time I checked we lived in a multi cultural country known as Canada. What that means is that everyone has a right to be here and live in Canada. In Canada our primary language is English. There's even tests that have to be taken to be a Canadian citizen. What infuriates me is the discrimination and utter disrespect from a guy who probably immigrated here. If anything he should know that English and not Korean is the primary language. If the manager wanted to hire me only if I could speak Korean then that obviously means I'm being discriminated against. I have all the tools and necessary qualifications to do the job and working in a restaurant ain't rocket science.

The reason I am livid and up in arms is not because I didn't get this job. It is the blatant refusal and illegal practices that prevented me from getting a job. Simple as that. I am taking this personally because this is just ridiculous. I need this job so I can save money because once school starts I'll have to look for a part time job. The two together is too hard considering I also organize a Clan team that scrims which takes a huge chunk of my time.


Buddy, you gotta chill and realize you have no basis for complaint.

1. There are a number of discrimination types that are perfectly legal in this country. Such as age, language, and professional-knowledge. No engineering firm in Canada is going to hire me if I couldn't speak or write English. Either way, if the owner feels that specific language skills are important enough to be a job qualification, then it is their prerogative to do so. The owner can easily argue that because their staff speaks primarily Korean, and if their client base also generally speaks Korean, then it makes a heck of a lot of sense for them to ensure that their staff is capable of speaking Korean.

2. Your argument that English is the primary language of Canada (technically, 1 of TWO primary languages because officially we're bilingual) is entirely moot. The national language of a country has little to no bearing on how a company must be run. Just because English is one of the primary languages of this country, does not mean that every business in this country must operate in English. As long as they have their signages and necessary documentation in English, they can run their business under any language as far as this government is concerned.

3. Speaking of discrimination, your comments are clearly discriminating against a possible immigrant, speaking as if they had less rights and privileges as you. Don't be a hypocrite.

4. No, you don't have all the tools and necessary qualifications for the job. Language requirement can count as a qualification. A Canadian Engineering firm may refuse to hire me, even if I'm a professional engineer by trade and have a ton of experience under my belt, and am technically proficient for the job, but because one of their primary clients is say, Korean and I can't speak a lick of Korean... then I don't meet all the qualifications for the job and they can refuse to hire me. Is it discrimination? Yes, it's language discrimination and in this case is entirely reasonable and legitimate.

5. There's nothing really illegal going on here, I suppose if you can prove that they are refusing to hire you on the basis of race you may have a case but you're going to have an extremely hard time doing that based on language discrimination alone.

Anyways if you need a job so badly, it's probably wiser to spend your time and effort on seeking employment elsewhere then to waste it all on complaining about your situation on RFD.

[grape]

.... 7 pages of bashing and op is still here and arguing why he should be hired.

strong ignorance and overvalued sense of worth.

[Winkle]

.... 7 pages of bashing and op is still here and arguing why he should be hired.

strong ignorance and overvalued sense of worth.

I don't mind the OP complaining about their situation.

I am, however, taking issue with the OP's derogatory comments about the owner being a likely immigrant, and further cementing their own hypocrisy.

[JBlue]

I don't mind the OP complaining about their situation.

I am, however, taking issue with the OP's derogatory comments about the owner being a likely immigrant, and further cementing their own hypocrisy.

Word!

[KorruptioN]

And trust me, I'm good enough to go pro despite what you may or may not think. Might sound egotistical but I've put in the hours and you get what you put in to whatever it is you're passionate about.

Why do you have to keep telling all of us this? You're clearly going against the tide here, and you're completely incapable of listening to some third-party opinions, even from people who have been there. We honestly don't care how good you are, because - what do we have to gain from knowing about your special status? You're lucky you're even getting any responses at all. Pro-gaming can be a career - it's how you get there that matters.

Your problem is, your personality is so all over the place that you can't concentrate on being successful. Urging your parents to buy you a new computer and car, all for free? Desperately looking to get around parental internet filters? And now, being way too picky with an entry-level job? What if all of the above wasn't an issue? What if you did manage to work a decent (and flexible job), help pay the bills, have some money left over for a nice computer, and not have to bust your ass wasting time? You'd probably be happier because you'd be able to manage your lifestyle more competently. Would you be better at gaming? Probably not, because you'd be better at life.

You need to do some hard thinking on your own, and we all mean it.

[Akraz]

If you want gaming as a career, move to korea.














Oh wait, you can't speak it LOLOL!

[Winkle]

why do you have to keep telling all of us this? You're clearly going against the tide here, and you're completely incapable of listening to some third-party opinions, even from people who have been there. We honestly don't care how good you are, because - what do we have to gain from knowing about your special status? You're lucky you're even getting any responses at all. Pro-gaming can be a career - it's how you get there that matters.

Your problem is, your personality is so all over the place that you can't concentrate on being successful. Urging your parents to buy you a new computer and car, all for free? Desperately looking to get around parental internet filters? And now, being way too picky with an entry-level job? What if all of the above wasn't an issue? What if you did manage to work a decent (and flexible job), help pay the bills, have some money left over for a nice computer, and not have to bust your ass wasting time? You'd probably be happier because you'd be able to manage your lifestyle more competently. Would you be better at gaming? Probably not, because you'd be better at life.

You need to do some hard thinking on your own, and we all mean it.

+1

[winner2000]

Well, I can't believe I read all this but I think OP is NOT trolling.
In one of his posts, he said he's on some sort of pills/medication

I think OP has some sort of mental/psychological issue. The mods should probably lock this thread ASAP and probably ban this guy, because he's clearly rolling marbles up there. He needs some sort of assistance that is out of RFD's league, especially if he's 26 years old and acts like a 12 year old.

Let's help this guy before it's too late!

[ndrew029]

Good one, please remove yourself from the gene-pool.
Now.

Looks like someone took a **** in his gene pool...

I can't believe this thread hasn't been locked up yet...the kid's getting flamed like Korean BBQ.

[Akraz]

the kid's getting flamed like Korean BBQ.

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

[Kranberry]

I'm all for serious, lively in depth discussion but this has gone from a simple request for advice to an all out tactile flame war directed to me and my passion for gaming. As I reiterated in my original post, please be respectful. Like the old saying goes "if you have nothing good to say then don't say anything"
I didn't want this discussion to spiral into the depths of the murky abyss but a select few have done just that! Gaming is something I take very serious and I'd love nothing more than to live out my dream and be playing professionally, however right now its not feasible. And trust me, I'm good enough to go pro despite what you may or may not think. Might sound egotistical but I've put in the hours and you get what you put in to whatever it is you're passionate about.

That aside let try to steer back into the issue at hand.
The Korean manager was purposely discriminating myself from applying solely on the basis of not being able to speak Korean. Last time I checked we lived in a multi cultural country known as Canada. What that means is that everyone has a right to be here and live in Canada. In Canada our primary language is English. There's even tests that have to be taken to be a Canadian citizen. What infuriates me is the discrimination and utter disrespect from a guy who probably immigrated here. If anything he should know that English and not Korean is the primary language. If the manager wanted to hire me only if I could speak Korean then that obviously means I'm being discriminated against. I have all the tools and necessary qualifications to do the job and working in a restaurant ain't rocket science.

The reason I am livid and up in arms is not because I didn't get this job. It is the blatant refusal and illegal practices that prevented me from getting a job. Simple as that. I am taking this personally because this is just ridiculous. I need this job so I can save money because once school starts I'll have to look for a part time job. The two together is too hard considering I also organize a Clan team that scrims which takes a huge chunk of my time.

Anyone who says I'm being stuck up, immature, stupid, irresponsible, irrational just doesn't understand. Maybe if you were in my shoes you'd see things from my perspective. Like I said, you don't know me but I am a good guy in real life. Plus I already apologized for the past stuff which people keep on bringing up. Forget it already cause its a dead issue.

Disregarding why you want a job (to support your gaming), and all other factors, what I don't get is why you "need this job". Is this the only restaurant in all of BC that is hiring? Is this the only job that is hiring besides the blueberry farm? Suck it up and move on, get another job there must be others.

[boonjaca]

Knowing the OP, it's probably right beside where he lives so he can run home during his breaks, lunch and dinner so he can get in the extra 2 minutes of play.

[googoo]

ONce, I applied for a job as an electrician, the supervisor asked what my qualifications are, I said I know all about switches and dimmers, I've even plugged in my computer, but he still didn't hire me .... I swear it's discrimination!

Brent

[Troodon]

His biggest problem is to buy an i7 CPU for Starcraft 2 (not CPU intensive at all) and a 30in. screen to play games. The monitor itself will cost more than the computer.

[resu]

His biggest problem is to buy an i7 CPU for Starcraft 2 (not CPU intensive at all) and a 30in. screen to play games. The monitor itself will cost more than the computer.

I wonder what makes him look more naive... his 'employment problem' or thinking that you need i7 to run SCII :D

[Lone_Prodigy]

Doesn't school start in like a week and a half? Seems a little late to be looking for a job that'll earn enough for an i7 rig.

[ricoboxing]

ONce, I applied for a job as an electrician, the supervisor asked what my qualifications are, I said I know all about switches and dimmers, I've even plugged in my computer, but he still didn't hire me .... I swear it's discrimination!

Brent

OMG that totally reminds me of this time I applied for a job as a mechanic. The supervisor asked what my qualifications are, I said I watched fast and the furious 100 times, and even had power wheels when I was 5, but he still didn't hire me .... I swear it's discrimination!

[Akraz]

I once walked into hooters and applied for a job, i wasnt a woman so i got denied :( DISCRIMINATION!

[taro-chan]

Like he said I had to speak Korean because everyone on staff was Korean. Obviously thats an issue because I'm Chinese and the only Korean word I know is kimchi. lol.. that is hilarious.

Stop playing TF2 and get watching those k-drama! Then you can land a k-gf and that k-job. With that money, you can get a legendary PC to play SC2. This will be huge asset when you make it big as a SC2 player as we all know all professional SC player is k.

k?

[sweeper]

I don't know what's worse.

Some no-life troll making this up or this actually being real and some dumbarse getting all worked up over a job he clearly isn't qualified for.

Sad Sad Sad. :lol:

[sweeper]

OP, just work here, most realistic job for you IMHO.

http://i.ehow.com/images/GlobalPhoto/Articles/4611071/mcdonalds-main_Full.jpg

[jcoltage]

Exective Summary

Basically I'm trying to save up for a 30" LCD plus a new I7 rig.

30 inchs? you think that's big enough

Unfortunately my parents won't buy me a new computer {since they are paying for my PILLS}
* he edited it...


Now I was working on a blueberry farm but the job just required heavy physical labor

Berry farm must be a real Stalag

HUGE problem..
I applied to restaurant ...I had to speak Korean because everyone Korean.

a requirement?

I'm Chinese

oh no.


how Korean people are running a Japanese restaurant.

Racist? - next you tell me woman can't own property.

I take ...playing professionally and I'm good enough to go pro

lol

Purposely discriminating myself from applying solely on the basis of not being able to speak Korean.

What?

What infuriates me is the discrimination and utter disrespect from a guy who probably immigrated here.

Your Racist

I have all the tools and necessary qualifications to do the job and working in a restaurant ain't rocket science.

YES IT IS - owning a microwave and a box of kraft dinner does not make you a CIA. chief. Watch hells kitchen at least or No Reservations

I also organize a Clan team that scrims which takes a huge chunk of my time.

more lol

I am a good guy in real life.

Second life does not count.

[DuDe1411]

annyong haseyo!

/wrist

[Troodon]

I don't really want to get into the details but basically I got into a huge fight with my parents over computer gaming. They say that I spend too much time gaming and not enough time studying and all that other jazz. The thing is I still get good marks C's/B's yet they expect me to be a nerd by getting A's??
Long story short they threatened to take my computer if I don't stop playing so much TF2. The reason I play so much is cause I really want to be a professional gamer so I'm really dedicated. My stupid parents don't realize that I have a special talent. Like yeah I spend a lot of time on gaming but its the one thing I'm really really really good at and I love gaming so much.

My question is suppose my parents take my computer away. Since I paid for it what are my rights? They can't take away my stuff that I own right? Isn't that against the law?

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=749845

Right now I'm sort have reflected how boring my life is aside from my one and only passion: TF2. The doctor says I'm depressed so I'm on medication right now to try and recapture my vibrant youthful days of elementary school.
Some days when I wake up I feel lost because I'll usually just go on my computer and either surf, ventrillo with my clan mates or play TF2.
I don't have a facebook account which I know all the people who have friends have and use on a daily basis. I have MSN but I only have 5 contact which are my TF2 members. I feel like I'm losing out because there's like billions of people on earth and I have what.. like 5 friends. That is abnormal.

Like I said I have decided to try and prioritize my life better so that I can start meeting new people and hopefully start gettings friends, girlfriends best friends and stuff. I wanna go to night clubs and hockey games and all that fun stuff but instead I'm forced to live this sad and lonely life in my bedroom. I spend all my free time in my room watching tv or gaming.
I just wanna be more popular and live a normal life like most people do.
But yet I'm stuck because I don't know how to make friends or be accepted since I'm weird.

This is troubling and if I don't change my ways I know I will never get married or have a kid. I am also sort of afraid of girls because I'm not socially adept. Can't flirt and afraid of being rejected.

Please if you can give me tips. Only people with lots of friends and are popular give their advice. Sometimes I just get really down and out. My TF2 friends live far away from me which sucks. Can't hang out with them.

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=773335

Awhile ago I came here asking for suggestions on the 4870 or 260GTX. It isn't to anyone's surprise that I chose Nvidia because I am a huuuuuuge Nvidia fan/fanboy. Thats not to say I dislike ATI but they as a company are not on the same level as Nvidia.

Now I didn't choose the 260GTX since it pretty much old news and becoming obsalete. I went with 285GTX and what a fricken insane card. I'm getting 100+FPS max settings. I recently been scouted from competitive TF2 clans because I'm the best sniper, bar none!

I also managed to sell my old video card 8800gt which frankly is a piece of crap by now. Some guy bought it for $150 hahaha which is awesome since I recouped and made profit.
I'm so happy.

Now for OC'ing.

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=739962

I just downloaded utorrent for downloading movies and music. So I start the program and my speed is just stupid like 1.3kbs next to the speed left side is triangle says (!)
I go to speed test and I am getting 6.5mpbs so that means I expect around 600kbps speed. What the heck is wrong? Do I have a virus?
I really need to fix this like right now. I have a bunch of movies I wanna download. Can also give TF2 sniping lessons in return if someone can solve this for me. thanks a lot and please don't give instructions that are like super advanced please.

Not using router. Using neighbors wifi connection. Ok so my port is being blocked and thats all I know right now. How can I open it back up?
I can download regular files at good speeds but not on utorrent. So dumb!

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=772087

[johnboy]

OMG! LOL!

Is this dude for real? No way... if so, he's bonkers.

[Winkle]

Dood's got a file...

[flexwong]

First and foremost I respect all person's opinions but if you are gonna come here to mess around and make unwarranted remarks I ask you to go away.
Secondly I am looking for detailed, wise and thoughtful advice from more of the mature people who know a thing or two about how things work. I don't want any advice from younger crowd no offense or anything.

Basically I'm trying to save up for a 30" LCD plus a new I7 rig. This is gonna be my main gamer computer for when Starcraft 2 comes out. Unfortunately my parents won't buy me a new computer even though I tried to convince them they should buy me one for school. I had hoped this might get them to fork over the money for my new rig but no dice. They continue to nag me about computers is a waste of money and time blah blah blah..

Now I was working on a blueberry farm but the job just wasn't for me. Especially since the job required heavy physical labor and I was getting paid peanuts. I took it upon myself to look for another job that I am more suited for and that is much easier. I decided to apply at a restaurant joint.

I have a HUGE problem..
I applied to this Japanese restaurant with good intentions. I gave the manager my resume and asked if I could have an interview. He asked me some questions that didn't even pertain to the job which was unprofessional. Like he said I had to speak Korean because everyone on staff was Korean. Obviously thats an issue because I'm Chinese and the only Korean word I know is kimchi. But whats even more bizarre and questionable is how Korean people are running a Japanese restaurant. Talk about irony... but thats besides the point

I know about equal employment opportunities and I know I am being 'shafted' here. What can I do or where can I complain about the mistreatment. Because I know I am qualified for the job but I am being discriminated against because I can't speak Korean. This basically deflated my hope in getting a job and I am very disheartened. I really need money so I can buy my computer.

Resolvement in this matter would be greatly appreciated.

i had a similar problem, some job told me i had to be bilingual. i told them i speak cantonese and english and they said they wanted french and english. racism! i need to complain as well, let me know if you can find the place to launch this complaint. i mean, psh, what do these places know, placing language requirements on jobs.

[johnboy]

Dear lord!

This dude sounds real!

Hey OP (the one with the numbered name). I think you know you're messed up. First thing you can do is stop starting messed up threads. You are in the wrong with this one. :-(

Get yourself together man otherwise you'll be stuck in this hole for a very long time.

[myversa]

I read and :D.

imagine yourself starting to work in the restaurant and you do not understand a single word of whatever your colleagues are saying.

Since you said you only know the word "kimchi", you would not know restaurant's other dishes' name, right?

Let me put it into "on-line video game" term:

imagine you are playing online games with a team full of Koream people but you. Your teammate told you to do something in Korean, and you have no clue what to do.

[spf1971]

I have a HUGE problem..
I applied to this TF2 clan with good intentions. The clan chief asked me some questions that didn't even pertain to the position which was unprofessional. Like he said I had to play TF2 because everyone in the clan played TF2. Obviously thats an issue because I only play pong.

I know about equal gaming opportunities and I know I am being 'shafted' here.

[Keigotw]

First and foremost I respect all person's opinions but if you are gonna come here to mess around and make unwarranted remarks I ask you to go away.
Secondly I am looking for detailed, wise and thoughtful advice from more of the mature people who know a thing or two about how things work. I don't want any advice from younger crowd no offense or anything.

Basically I'm trying to save up for a 30" LCD plus a new I7 rig. This is gonna be my main gamer computer for when Starcraft 2 comes out. Unfortunately my parents won't buy me a new computer even though I tried to convince them they should buy me one for school. I had hoped this might get them to fork over the money for my new rig but no dice. They continue to nag me about computers is a waste of money and time blah blah blah..

Now I was working on a blueberry farm but the job just wasn't for me. Especially since the job required heavy physical labor and I was getting paid peanuts. I took it upon myself to look for another job that I am more suited for and that is much easier. I decided to apply at a restaurant joint.

I have a HUGE problem..
I applied to this Japanese restaurant with good intentions. I gave the manager my resume and asked if I could have an interview. He asked me some questions that didn't even pertain to the job which was unprofessional. Like he said I had to speak Korean because everyone on staff was Korean. Obviously thats an issue because I'm Chinese and the only Korean word I know is kimchi. But whats even more bizarre and questionable is how Korean people are running a Japanese restaurant. Talk about irony... but thats besides the point

I know about equal employment opportunities and I know I am being 'shafted' here. What can I do or where can I complain about the mistreatment. Because I know I am qualified for the job but I am being discriminated against because I can't speak Korean. This basically deflated my hope in getting a job and I am very disheartened. I really need money so I can buy my computer.

Resolvement in this matter would be greatly appreciated.

If you speak chinese, why not go try working in a Japanese restaurat open by Chinese ? there are many of them.
why waste time complaning

[thendless]

This is quite an entertaining thread, i vote this guy as favorite OT poster for 2010!

[45ED]

This is quite an entertaining thread, i vote this guy as favorite OT poster for 2010!

And then he'll win a gift certificate that'll enable him to buy a game for his precious computer. Then he'll want more money to improve his computer to be the L33T gamer he is. Then he'll lie to his parents for computer upgrades (they'll turn him down). Next, he'll want to get a better job because his current one is "lame". And then he'll find him being discriminated for whatever reason, after which he'll post to RFD on advice to go after the guy and...

...oh hell no. If we let him win, we'll just be perpetuating the problem. :lol:

[Jon Lai]

And then he'll win a gift certificate that'll enable him to buy a game for his precious computer. Then he'll want more money to improve his computer to be the L33T gamer he is. Then he'll lie to his parents for computer upgrades (they'll turn him down). Next, he'll want to get a better job because his current one is "lame". And then he'll find him being discriminated for whatever reason, after which he'll post to RFD on advice to go after the guy and...

...oh hell no. If we let him win, we'll just be perpetuating the problem. :lol:

We let K_K win, didn't we?

[45ED]

We let K_K win, didn't we?

True, but the difference is this: OP is in a state where he clearly needs help, and enabling his gaming addiction with a certificate that'll help him buy another game isn't helping but enabling.

K_K, on the other hand, would've stayed K_K regardless of winning or losing. There is no enabling K_K because his desire for attention makes him a self-perpetuating troll - he doesn't need our help in that area. :lol:

[congeetime]

If your not qualified for this job then move on.... Its not like thats the only japanese restaurant out there.

[Ojam]

If your not qualified for this job then move on.... Its not like thats the only japanese restaurant out there.

I don't think he is qualified for any job.

[45ED]

I don't think he is qualified for any job.

He can be a professional gamer - apparently he's real good at that. :D *snickers*

[45ED]

Wait. This just occurred to me (nothing in the in-thread search thing shows this question asked so forgive me if it has already been submitted):

If you're Chinese and you want to work in a restaurant, why haven't you tried to work in a Chinese restaurant?

[originalnutta]

I don't think he is qualified for any job.

Not so quick there.


I have a job opening of Confederate Magistrate.

I'm looking for someone who possesses the skill and fortitude that only a Star Craft avid gamer can exemplify.

As a CM, the qualified candidate must oversee the outlying colony world of Mar Sara.

[Jon Lai]

Wait. This just occurred to me (nothing in the in-thread search thing shows this question asked so forgive me if it has already been submitted):

If you're Chinese and you want to work in a restaurant, why haven't you tried to work in a Chinese restaurant?

Probably because "the job just wasn't for me. Especially since the job required heavy physical labor and I was getting paid peanuts."

[originalnutta]

i agree it's wrong that you work in a blueberry farm, and they pay you in peanuts.

[45ED]

Probably because "the job just wasn't for me. Especially since the job required heavy physical labor and I was getting paid peanuts."

What does he think he'll be doing in a Korean-run Japanese restaurant, then? Score a Korean girlfriend?

If he thinks it is easy to work in a restaurant, he is exceptionally naiive

[45ED]

i agree it's wrong that you work in a blueberry farm, and they pay you in peanuts.

Work at a blueberry farm, get paid in kilos of blueberries, buy a kit from Canadian Tires/wherever, make your own jam, sell it, profit...

...okay, now I know OP lacks foresight. Not only could he have earned money from workin' the blueberry fields, he could've made off with a lot of blueberries, made jam, and sell that sh*t. Hello, business opportunity. It's easy (the making part), and lots of people like blueberries (and blueberry jam). Why didn't he think of this?

See, this is what happens when playing too many games - you miss out on an awesome business venture.

[gman]

Work at a blueberry farm, get paid in kilos of blueberries, buy a kit from Canadian Tires/wherever, make your own jam, sell it, profit...

...okay, now I know OP lacks foresight. Not only could he have earned money from workin' the blueberry fields, he could've made off with a lot of blueberries, made jam, and sell that sh*t. Hello, business opportunity. It's easy (the making part), and lots of people like blueberries (and blueberry jam). Why didn't he think of this?

See, this is what happens when playing too many games - you miss out on an awesome business venture.

He also missed the potential help to his gaming career through the blueberry job. He can keep eating blueberry when he is working to improve the health of his eyes so that he can be more ready for his battles. Keep eating sushi cannot help as much.

[chinese zzz]

The thread is right .. it's language issue...:rolleyes:

[originalnutta]

i wish i had the opportunity to work on a blueberry farm here.

lots of sunshine, exercise, free blueberries, etc etc..

but i guess drinking mountain dew and playing star craft in a dark room is just as good.

[Mulder and Scully]

The OP spends more time in his initial post talking about his PC than the job. The thread title is a lie!

[KorruptioN]

The thread is right .. it's language issue...:rolleyes:

You're one to talk...

[ariell]

Seriously???Seriously??! :confused: Wow OP, I think all that gaming has fried a few too many brain cells. All the time and energy you spent on this thread could have been spent looking for another job. Why are you soooooo focused on this one Japanese restaurant that you are not even qualified to work at?? Go apply somewhere else for goodness sake and stop wasting your time whining about non-existent racism.

Oh and for the record, your parents were right in trying to cut your computer time. Bs and Cs are NOT good grades.

[flexwong]

We let K_K win, didn't we?

no, it was all a ploy to get him perma-banned :twisted::twisted::twisted:

[Kranberry]

Well, I can't believe I read all this but I think OP is NOT trolling.
In one of his posts, he said he's on some sort of pills/medication

I think OP has some sort of mental/psychological issue. The mods should probably lock this thread ASAP and probably ban this guy, because he's clearly rolling marbles up there. He needs some sort of assistance that is out of RFD's league, especially if he's 26 years old and acts like a 12 year old.

Let's help this guy before it's too late!

Hearing he's 26 and seeing his nick, I believe he was born March 12th, 1983 or December 3rd, 1983. Nice nick... :P

I think he's beyond any RFD help, except if he's looking for cheap buys after he finally gets a job to buy his 30" LCD and i7 'puter.

[Lone_Prodigy]

Hearing he's 26 and seeing his nick, I believe he was born March 12th, 1983 or December 3rd, 1983. Nice nick... :P

I think he's beyond any RFD help, except if he's looking for cheap buys after he finally gets a job to buy his 30" LCD and i7 'puter.

Most likely the former date, since he would be 25 if the latter was his birthdate.

I think we've beaten this to death already and OP is probably not coming back.

[myversa]

You pick blueberry and they pay you "peanuts"? :D

btw, just curious, how much is "peanuts pay"?

[Jon Lai]

Work at a blueberry farm, get paid in kilos of blueberries, buy a kit from Canadian Tires/wherever, make your own jam, sell it, profit...

...okay, now I know OP lacks foresight. Not only could he have earned money from workin' the blueberry fields, he could've made off with a lot of blueberries, made jam, and sell that sh*t. Hello, business opportunity. It's easy (the making part), and lots of people like blueberries (and blueberry jam). Why didn't he think of this?

See, this is what happens when playing too many games - you miss out on an awesome business venture.

+1

If it's anything I've learned on RFD, it's capitalism and how to make a profit :P

[Ryan]

OP needs help that he won't find here.

Lock.