Intel Core I5 and I7 LGA1156 processors spotted.

[Katso]

Look what just showed up.

http://www.pccanada.com/viewitem.asp?id=10740
http://www.pccanada.com/viewitem.asp?id=10741
http://www.pccanada.com/viewitem.asp?id=10742

They show the shipping date as September 8th.

[mkerian]

I only hope some intrepid laptop manufacturers will get this into smaller laptops i.e. 15.4 inchers rather than monster laptop workstations.

[Oversized Rooster]

I only hope some intrepid laptop manufacturers will get this into smaller laptops i.e. 15.4 inchers rather than monster laptop workstations.

What's the use? If you put in a quad core CPU inside a laptop, you will get HORRIBLE battery life and also that CPU will be crippled to some useless speed like 1.6GHz due to heat output and power requirements. Heck, you'd need a 120W power brick, too.

There's no point to put high-end CPUs in laptops because the whole laptop architecture is very crippled and non-upgradable.

[mkerian]

What's the use? If you put in a quad core CPU inside a laptop, you will get HORRIBLE battery life and also that CPU will be crippled to some useless speed like 1.6GHz due to heat output and power requirements. Heck, you'd need a 120W power brick, too.

There's no point to put high-end CPUs in laptops because the whole laptop architecture is very crippled and non-upgradable.

Sure....you keep thinking that...

[tdotcbc84]

Sure....you keep thinking that...

care to expand ?

[Amourek]

I only hope some intrepid laptop manufacturers will get this into smaller laptops i.e. 15.4 inchers rather than monster laptop workstations.

The power draw and heat output from desktop chips make them completely infeasible for laptops. They'd have to make 4" thick laptops to make sure they're properly cooled.

Mobile versions of i7 (1.6-2.0ghz) will be launched in late September/early October.

[Oversized Rooster]

Sure....you keep thinking that...

LOL I will keep thinking that because it's the truth. There's no market for "data center" laptops. Past a certain size and weight (not to mention cost), it makes more sense to build a desktop no matter how mobile you wish you were.

As Amourek pointed out, the laptop would grow considerably in size and weight due to the extra space and heatsinks necessary to cool a high-end CPU. Other internal components would likely overheat as a result because you cannot channel away ALL the heat from the CPU exclusively. How about a keyboard that's hot to the touch? Or plastic discoloration and a burning lap?

Besides, even if you were OK with carrying around a 15 pound laptop that was 4 inches thick...what good is it to show your friends how powerful it is when you've still got a relatively tiny 15 inch screen? LOL :lol:

[flyz]

Look up desktop replacement and battery life, it's really pointless. There'll be mobile chips based on Nehalem later on.

[elton5354]

There are already laptops with Core i7 965 Extreme

AVADirect D900F Specifications:

* Windows Vista Home Premium (SP1, 64-bit)
* Intel Core i7 975 Extreme Edition Processor (3.33GHz, 8MB L2, 1066MHz FSB)
* Intel X58 + ICH10R chipset
* 17.1" WUXGA Ultra Bright Glossy LCD display at 1920x1200
* NVIDIA GeForce GTX 280M 1GB GDDR3 memory
* Intel 5300AGN Wireless
* 6GB DDR3-1333 SDRAM (2GB x 3)
* 30GB x 2 OCZ Vertex in RAID 0, 500GB Seagate 7400.4
* DVD SuperMulti /BD-ROM
* webcam, stereo speakers
* 220W (20V x 11A) 100-240V AC Adapter
* 12-cell 95Wh 14.4v 6600mAh Lithium Ion battery
* Dimensions (WxDxH): 15.62" x 11.42" x 2" - 2.36"
* Weight: 12lbs 0.1oz, 14lbs 15.6oz with AC adapter
* 1-Year Standard Limited Warranty
* Price as configured: $3,900


http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=5094&review=avadirect+clevo+d900f

;)

[macuser]

* Weight: 12lbs 0.1oz, 14lbs 15.6oz with AC adapter

Can you even call that a laptop anymore?

[tritium4ever]

Can you even call that a laptop anymore?

Once you're in the double digit pound range, it's less a laptop and more a tabletop. :lol:

[Oversized Rooster]

LOL 220W power brick?! I can only imagine the heat. If you run this "laptop" on your lap, you are really threatening your manhood. :lol:

[elton5354]

LOL 220W power brick?! I can only imagine the heat. If you run this "laptop" on your lap, you are really threatening your manhood. :lol:

Actually, the temps are quite normal .......at the bottom at least ;)

http://www.notebookreview.com/assets/44094.jpg

[terrybear]

as others have said, no way a desktop cpu will survive in a notebook unless you like about 1 hour of runtime :lol::lol::lol::razz: If it was that simple AMD could have had quad lappy's out a few years back but as others have pointed out the power draw is simply too much.


Onto as to what I seen there ... Almost $700 for the top Core i7 i5 chip *ROTFLMAOL. No one in there right mind will pay that cause it might as well be buying a Core i7 9xx chip then.

The others are still reasonable, core i5 750 for $249 is reasonable this will mean that Phenom II 955 & 965 should come down to that price or lower to compete. Definatly going to make things pretty nice for us consumers with little $ to get faster pc's come september :D

[Oversized Rooster]

The others are still reasonable, core i5 750 for $249 is reasonable this will mean that Phenom II 955 & 965 should come down to that price or lower to compete. Definatly going to make things pretty nice for us consumers with little $ to get faster pc's come september :D

AMD will have to drop their prices however with the introduction of the LGA1156 CPUs, none of the Phenom CPUs are actually competition. At best, they try to compete with years-old Core 2 Quad CPUs and even those are still faster.

Honestly, AMD simply has to design a new architecture. Intel's mid-end new stuff wipes the floor with Phenom II. Don't even get me started on the high-end Intel CPUs.

Don't get me wrong, I like AMD. But they have lost this battle for now. More than half of the PCs in my household are AMD machines but I guess I will continue to make my flagship main machine Intel.

[terrybear]

AMD will have to drop their prices however with the introduction of the LGA1156 CPUs, none of the Phenom CPUs are actually competition. At best, they try to compete with years-old Core 2 Quad CPUs and even those are still faster.

Honestly, AMD simply has to design a new architecture. Intel's mid-end new stuff wipes the floor with Phenom II. Don't even get me started on the high-end Intel CPUs.

Don't get me wrong, I like AMD. But they have lost this battle for now. More than half of the PCs in my household are AMD machines but I guess I will continue to make my flagship main machine Intel.

I know 3.4 ghz phenom II = Q9550 & almost core i7 920

As I said in another thread the 6 core'd cpu's that are out at opterons would help some but otherwise yes the newer " bulldozers " might be the ones to keep up.

Either way like I said ... lower prices + more powerfull cpu's = better buy for all of us.

True test comes when they do 965 vs core i5 750 with 4 gig kits, same hard drives, videocards & ect.

[Firestorm]

So how would the i5 750 compare to the q9550?

[Oversized Rooster]

I know 3.4 ghz phenom II = Q9550 & almost core i7 920

As I said in another thread the 6 core'd cpu's that are out at opterons would help some but otherwise yes the newer " bulldozers " might be the ones to keep up.

Either way like I said ... lower prices + more powerfull cpu's = better buy for all of us.

True test comes when they do 965 vs core i5 750 with 4 gig kits, same hard drives, videocards & ect.

LOL what is this obsession with AMD man? Just accept it - they lost to Intel again. The 965 is nothing but a higher clocked "same old" CPU with a ridiculous 140W TDP. It's plain dismal that just now AMD can come close to the Core 2 Quads. If we begin overclocking though, the 965 loses to a Q9550.

You just have to accept the truth man. AMD has nothing competitive in terms of performance right now. Price is their only card to play (which they are luckily playing well).

[flyz]

So how would the i5 750 compare to the q9550?

750 should be slightly faster than a Q9550.

[flyz]

True test comes when they do 965 vs core i5 750 with 4 gig kits, same hard drives, videocards & ect.

Been done a couple months back... It's not quite there but just move each 955 bar up a little and look at the Lynnfield 2.66 no HT results. Remember there's no turbo mode in these results and the i5 750 can clock up to 3.2 with turbo so expect higher results.

Link (http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3570&p=7)

[flyz]

Found several i5 750 reviews already. I love how some Chinese reviewers break NDA and give us early previews of whats to come :D

http://en.expreview.com/2009/08/19/thorough-review-of-intel-core-i5-750.html
http://en.inpai.com.cn/doc/enshowcont.asp?id=6804&pageid=5443

[terrybear]

LOL what is this obsession with AMD man? Just accept it - they lost to Intel again. The 965 is nothing but a higher clocked "same old" CPU with a ridiculous 140W TDP. It's plain dismal that just now AMD can come close to the Core 2 Quads. If we begin overclocking though, the 965 loses to a Q9550.

You just have to accept the truth man. AMD has nothing competitive in terms of performance right now. Price is their only card to play (which they are luckily playing well).

Its always nice to see what amd vs intel hardware can do. It oviously would change what I recomend to anyone on here or otherwise in real life if there is a substantial preformance diffrence.

[terrybear]

Found several i5 750 reviews already. I love how some Chinese reviewers break NDA and give us early previews of whats to come :D

http://en.expreview.com/2009/08/19/thorough-review-of-intel-core-i5-750.html
http://en.inpai.com.cn/doc/enshowcont.asp?id=6804&pageid=5443

According to this review in the top link Core i5 750 is about 10% slower then the Core i7 920 in head to head speed.

Thought 8x+8x crossfire on some boards.

[Pavel]

According to this review in the top link Core i5 750 is about 10% slower then the Core i7 920 in head to head speed.

Thought 8x+8x crossfire on some boards.
Interesting. Here is a summary of the review:

Final Thoughts

As for general performance, we can say Core i7 > Core i5 > Core i3. According to our test, Core i5-750 delivers about 90 percent performance of Core i7-920.

Besides, Core i5 brings us something exciting, such as lower power consumption, greater OC potential and etc.

Targeting mid-range segment, Core i5 is more affordable. It’s available in China for RMB1599 (US$234), which is much cheaper than Core i7-920. Considering the pricing of most P55 motherboards, it’s much cheaper to build a Core i5-750 than Core i7-920 platform.

With the emergence of Core i5 and the upcoming Core i3, Nehalem micro-architecture processors will become more and more popular with ordinary consumers.