LF: HD Netbook; HDMI 10"+ like Asus N10J <$600 tx included

[Ghetto_Child]

So I'm looking for an HD video capable Netbook that can do light gaming or older games like F.E.A.R., C&C Generals, etc. I require HDMI out and 10" or larger screen. I really like those Asus N10J line as it has both an nVidia 9300M GS & integrated Intel graphic chips but I prefer to spend $600 or less after taxes but I'll go up if the features are worth it.

If anyone can provide some currently available options/alternatives and also some other models of N10J; I've only seen what I believe is the N10J-A1 at staples and the N10J-A2 at NCIX, I'd like to see those too.

An example is this sold out model at staples for $400 http://www.staples.ca/ENG/Catalog/cat_sku.asp?webid=766475&CatIds=&AffixedCode=WW&=&=

http://www.staples.ca/ENG/images/products/ca766475_1_enl.jpg
Features

Processor Intel Atom N270 processor
Processor Speed 1.60GHz
Memory 2GB
Hard Drive 250GB 5400rpm SATA
CD-DVD Drive None
Graphics Chipset GMA950+NV 9300M GS
Video Memory 256MB
Display 10.2" WSVGA (1024 x 600)
Network Capable Fax Modem, 10/100/1000 Gigabit Ethernet, IEEE 802.11b/g/n wireless LAN
Ports 3 USB 2.0 ports, 1 HDMI port, 8-in-1 card reader, Express Card slot
Operating System Windows Vista Home Premium
Dimensions 1.2" - 1.4"(H) x 10.8"(W) x 7.6"(D)
Weight 3.5lb
Warranty 1-Year Limited



Starting to like the N20A aswell but how much does that unit go for?
http://ca.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=5&l2=64&l3=834&l4=0&model=2565&modelmenu=2

http://ca.asus.com/999/images/products/2565/2565_m.jpg
Specification
Operating System Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium,
Processor & Cache Memory Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor T5800 : 2.16 GHz - 2.0 GHz, 667MHz, 2MB On-Die L2 Cache ;
Chipset Intel® GM45 Express Chipset +ICH9M
Main Memory 4G
Display 12.1" WXGA Color-Shine (Glare-type)
Video Graphics & Memory Embedded Intel® GMA X4500HD Gfx
Hard Drive 250GB, 5400rpm
Optical Drive 5.25" , 12.7mm DVD Super Multi
Card Reader 8 in 1 card reader, SD,MMC,MS,MS-Pro,mini SD w/ adapter,MS-Duo,MS-Pro Duo via adapter
Video Camera 1.3 Mega Pixel web camera
Fax/Modem/LAN/WLAN Integrated Intel® High Definition Audio chip (Azalia) and 10/100/1000 BaseT
Built-in Bluetooth™ V2.0+EDR (optional)
3G/3.5G Antenna support(in selected territories)
Intel® Wireless WiFi Link 5100 ABGN
Interface 1 x Express card
1 x Microphone-in jack
1 x Headphone-out jack
1 x VGA port/Mini D-sub 15-pin for external monitor
3 x USB 2.0 ports
1 x RJ45 LAN Jack for LAN insert
1 x HDMI
1 x WLAN On/Off Switch
1 x E-SATA
Audio Built-in Azalia compliant audio chip, with 3D effect & full duplex
Built-in speaker and microphone
KeyBoard 17.5mm full size 83 Key with MS Windows function keys
Battery Pack & Life 3/6/9 cells: 2600/5200/7800 mAh,
Dimension & Weight 30.3 x 22.5 x 3.10 cm (W x D x H)
1.85 kg, (with 3 cell battery)
OS Compatibility Windows Vista/Windows XP
Model N20A-A1




Anyone know about the graphic chip in this N10Jh http://ca.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=5&l2=64&l3=833&l4=0&model=3034&modelmenu=2
http://ca.asus.com/999/images/products/3034/3034_m.jpg
$787 at Cendirect http://www.cendirect.com/main_en/tech_specs_NF5692750.html


Specification
Processor & Cache Memory Intel® Atom® Processor N280/N270 : 1.66 GHz - 1.6 GHz, 667/533 MHz,512KB L2 Cache;
Operating System Genuine Windows Vista® Ultimate,
Genuine Windows Vista® Business,
Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium,
Chipset Intel® 945GSE
Main Memory DDR2 667 MHz SDRAM, 1 x SODIMM socket for expansion up to 2GB SDRAM
Display 10.2" WSVGA/ Resolution 1024x600, Color-Shine (Glare-type)
Video Graphics & Memory NVIDIA® GeForce® G 105M , with 512MB +Intel® GMA950 (Switchable VGA) VRAM
Hard Drive 2.5" 9.5mm SATA 320GB, 250GB, 160GB,
Card Reader 8 in 1 card reader, SD,MMC,MS,MS-Pro,mini SD w/ adapter,MS-Duo,MS-Pro Duo via adapter
Video Camera 1.3 Mega Pixel web camera
Fax/Modem/LAN/WLAN Integrated 802.11 b/g/n
Built-in Bluetooth™ V2.0+EDR (optional)
Interface 1 x Express card
1 x Microphone-in jack
1 x Headphone-out jack (S/PDIF)
1 x VGA port/Mini D-sub 15-pin for external monitor
3 x USB 2.0 ports
1 x RJ45 LAN Jack for LAN insert
1 x HDMI
1 x WLAN On/Off Switch
Audio Built-in speaker and microphone
KeyBoard 19mm full size 83 Key with MS Windows function keys
Battery Pack & Life 3 cells: 2400 mAh
6 cells: 4800 mAh
Dimension & Weight 27.6 x 19.5 x 3.71 cm (W x D x H)
1.4 kg, (with 3 cell battery)


EDIT Aug 20th 10:21AM ET:
my current list of laptops that interest me, anyone know where to get a deal on these?
N20A
http://ca.asus.com/999/images/products/2565/2565_s.jpg
http://ca.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=5&l2=64&l3=834&l4=0&model=2565&modelmenu=2

U20A
http://ca.asus.com/999/images/products/3042/3042_s.jpg
http://ca.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=5&l2=64&l3=1009&l4=0&model=3042&modelmenu=2

N10Jh
http://ca.asus.com/999/images/products/3034/3034_s.jpg
http://ca.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=5&l2=64&l3=833&l4=0&model=3034&modelmenu=2

N10J
http://ca.asus.com/999/images/products/2515/2515_s.jpg
http://ca.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=5&l2=64&l3=833&l4=0&model=2515&modelmenu=2

N10Jc
http://ca.asus.com/999/images/products/2586/2586_s.jpg
http://ca.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=5&l2=64&l3=833&l4=0&model=2586&modelmenu=2

U6S
http://ca.asus.com/999/images/products/1927/1927_s.jpg
http://ca.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=5&l2=64&l3=458&l4=0&model=1927&modelmenu=2

ASUS-LAMBORGHINI VX3
http://ca.asus.com/999/images/products/2169/2169_s.jpg
http://ca.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=5&l2=64&l3=690&l4=0&model=2169&modelmenu=2

F6Ve
http://ca.asus.com/999/images/products/2820/2820_s.jpg
http://ca.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=5&l2=64&l3=845&l4=0&model=2820&modelmenu=2

F9Sg
http://ca.asus.com/999/images/products/2049/2049_s.jpg
http://ca.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=5&l2=64&l3=576&l4=0&model=2049&modelmenu=2

F9E
http://ca.asus.com/999/images/products/1833/1833_s.jpg
http://ca.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=5&l2=64&l3=576&l4=0&model=1833&modelmenu=2

F9Dc
http://ca.asus.com/999/images/products/1785/1785_s.jpg
http://ca.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=5&l2=64&l3=576&l4=0&model=1785&modelmenu=2

F9S
http://ca.asus.com/999/images/products/1784/1784_s.jpg
http://ca.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=5&l2=64&l3=576&l4=0&model=1784&modelmenu=2

U6V
http://ca.asus.com/999/images/products/2421/2421_s.jpg
http://ca.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=5&l2=131&l3=460&l4=0&model=2421&modelmenu=2

U6V Bamboo
http://ca.asus.com/999/images/products/2696/2696_s.jpg

U6Vc
http://ca.asus.com/999/images/products/2686/2686_s.jpg

U2E (micro-DVI Port)
http://ca.asus.com/110/images/products/2041/2041_s.jpg
http://ca.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=5&l2=64&l3=667&l4=0&model=2041&modelmenu=2

U2E Bamboo (DVI Port)
http://ca.asus.com/999/images/products/2761/2761_s.jpg

[Hello-]

The link you posted from staples is in stock for me in Toronto, maybe sat/sunday phantom stock... damn stooples. :lol:

Off the top of my head I can't remember any netbook that has what you need aside from the n10j.

[Ghetto_Child]

that's strange, I called staples online number thursday to check stock and they said the N10J is discontinued and no more comming in. What's your postal code maybe I'll see the same stock you see if I put your postal code.

[a in yul]

i think this is it;
http://images.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http://www.scionexsystems.com/product_thumb.php%3Fimg%3Dimages/1013009535.jpg%26w%3D100%26h%3D100&imgrefurl=http://www.scionexsystems.com/asus-system-eeebox-eb1006-intel-atom-n270-radeon-4530-hdmi-black-retail-p-80090.html%3Flanguage%3Dfr&usg=__86vEvAs2yeO6L9RNYEbASYnxtDs=&h=100&w=100&sz=2&hl=en&start=11&um=1&tbnid=gAwFu6jXEWM9AM:&tbnh=82&tbnw=82&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dasus%2BEB1006-B-111-5002%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DX%26um%3D1

[Ghetto_Child]

The link you posted from staples is in stock for me in Toronto, maybe sat/sunday phantom stock... damn stooples. :lol:

Off the top of my head I can't remember any netbook that has what you need aside from the n10j.
must be phantom stock, I saw stock at 2am ET put one in my cart and now 7hrs later it says out of stock again but there's still one in my cart.

i think this is it;
http://images.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http://www.scionexsystems.com/product_thumb.php%3Fimg%3Dimages/1013009535.jpg%26w%3D100%26h%3D100&imgrefurl=http://www.scionexsystems.com/asus-system-eeebox-eb1006-intel-atom-n270-radeon-4530-hdmi-black-retail-p-80090.html%3Flanguage%3Dfr&usg=__86vEvAs2yeO6L9RNYEbASYnxtDs=&h=100&w=100&sz=2&hl=en&start=11&um=1&tbnid=gAwFu6jXEWM9AM:&tbnh=82&tbnw=82&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dasus%2BEB1006-B-111-5002%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DX%26um%3D1

thanks for the info it's appreciated

[Ghetto_Child]

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[Ghetto_Child]

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[saltyvinegar]

I don't have time right now to check all of the notebooks but the best price I can find on the N10Jh is at onhop.

http://www.onhop.ca/Product/Search/?keyword=N10Jh&by=default&Submit=Go

Same with the F6VE:

http://www.onhop.ca/Product/Search/?keyword=F6Ve&by=default&Submit=Go

[Hello-]

Did you change your requirements? More than half the lapttops you updated your list with cost well over $600 and are not netbooks by an stretch of the definition.

[Ghetto_Child]

you're right Hello- I'm open to increasing my budget, if necessary, for notebooks that have a drastically superior video card to the 9300M GS.

Thanks saltyvinegar, seems the F6Ve is sold out now, the N10Jh I'll keep in mind but I don't feel comfortable paying twice the price just to get XPP as a bonus on top of all the same things included in the regular N10J that staples sells for $400-$600, At $800 I'd rather go with an N20A and get an actual HD video chip and optical drive in a 12" netbook.

[devils-haven]

another one you might look into is acer timeline unit for 699+tax at bestbuy

better then atom cpu intels su2700, hdmi, 13.3" led lcd, 4 gig ram, 320 hd, and best of all 8 hours battery

http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0926INGFS10124072&catid=20354

[ChangMai]

Well if you can wait a couple weeks longer..you may want to consider netbooks that feature the NVIDIA ION chipset (Geforce 9400M).

Lenovo S12 should be the first model widely available with this graphics card...but its taking longer than expected. I'm still waiting :(

EDIT:

Apparently it may NOT be released (http://www.slashgear.com/lenovo-delay-ideapad-s12-with-nvidia-ion-until-windows-7-2153212/) until when Windows 7 lanches..so late October. BOO!

[Ghetto_Child]

I've been hoping for one of those, problem is I couldn't find a model that has HDMI. I havn't been able to view features on any specific models. Only the spects tha tthe chipset is capable of but not what will be applied to any specific models. http://www.nvidia.com/object/picoatom_specifications.html and these specs look like desktop forms not the laptop form.

[Amourek]

another one you might look into is acer timeline unit for 699+tax at bestbuy

better then atom cpu intels su2700, hdmi, 13.3" led lcd, 4 gig ram, 320 hd, and best of all 8 hours battery[/url]

Atom + GF9300 is probably better for gaming than C2S + GMA 4500.

[Ghetto_Child]

I still prefer something a lot closer to 10" for ease of portability but I'll keep this unit in mind. Good 2nd best alternative for the price. Wow I would have thought it'd come with an optical drive at $700 lol oh well I'll still consider it since it's HD video capable graphics and HDMI port. Another interesting thing on NCIX the smaller the screen on this line the higher the price. The 12" is $1300 on NCIX lol.

amourek that statement might not be true because the atom based laptops all use DDR2 and these C2S use DDR3 also atoms are 400/533MHz bus and C2S seem to be 800MHz bus. Big advantage to the C2S.

[Hello-]

http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/23/samsung-n510-unboxed-looking-rather-large-sitting-next-to-the-n/

11.6"

[Ghetto_Child]

Canada=Land of retailers who are too stupid to supply good laptops/netbooks.

Asus website alone has 10-15 notebook models all 13" and smaller with HDMI ports and some have HD graphic chips. Why is staples the only retailer that can sell one at an ok price and why is the N10J the only model I can find in canada with HDMI port and HD video under 13"?

Staples doesn't even plan on replacing the N10J with anything similar?

Those Acer Timelines are still very tempting.

[Ghetto_Child]

And so 2 months later I picked up an 11.6" Acer Aspire 1410 in red. Sweet buy with all the features I wanted. That extra 1.6" over my prefered 10" is a noticeable difference beyond my preference but I can absolutely put up with it for all the other features I get in this. Even got the unit price matched too.