Snow Tire Group Buy #1?

[bwhizz]

Hi there,

There is an auto shop by my work in Mississauga (Hwy 10/Britannia) and I was talking to the owner about a possible group buy for snow tires. He has done some in the past but for only like 5 people - He obviously has not been involved in a redflag GB.

I want to get a list going and submit it to him sometime in August so we can get a feel for his prices.

Please put your make/model of your car and size/make/steelies or own rims.

Thanks,
Whizz

[Jucius Maximus]

Is there some reason why you avoid the SimplyTire group buy? My impression is that they are the favourite on this board. Also, Tires23 is not too far from there and they also have Winter Tire sales.

I won't be in any GB this year because I got snows last year.

[iam_immigrant]

I would be if the price is right...obviously.

[i-o_o-i]

Is there some reason why you avoid the SimplyTire group buy? My impression is that they are the favourite on this board. Also, Tires23 is not too far from there and they also have Winter Tire sales.

I won't be in any GB this year because I got snows last year.
are there simply tire group buys arranged every year? I would be interested in that since they're closer to me than this place OP is mentioning and I have actually heard of simply tire...

[c_snapper]

but i'm not 100%

i have nothing but good stuff about tire23, but am willing to go with simply tire or what not

06 A4 - 215 55 16

[darek_dade]

I'm in. Michelin Ice would be great.

[bembol]

I deal with tire23 as well but if the price is right, I'm in.

'08 Nissan Altima Coupe 3.5SE
P215/55R17

Not sure if I want to use my OEM's or get Steelies.

[Jucius Maximus]

are there simply tire group buys arranged every year? I would be interested in that since they're closer to me than this place OP is mentioning and I have actually heard of simply tire...

Yeah Allen said that Simply was having an even bigger and better snow tire sale this year.

[executor]

bridgeston blizzaks avg $195/tire cnd and $104/tire usd. for ppl in southwestern ontario it's crazy to buy canadian when it comes to tires. take a day trip, do some shopping, pick up some cheap shoes for you and your car.

[Pavel]

tirerack.com in the USA and have them shipped to a mail order outfit near the border if you're near one. if you buy steelies, they'll even balance them for you at no extra charge.

[m4gician]

What are the prices? I have used blizzaks these past 3 winters...I could use Hakkas or any H rated winter studdless tires.

185/65/15

[bwhizz]

tirerack.com in the USA and have them shipped to a mail order outfit near the border if you're near one. if you buy steelies, they'll even balance them for you at no extra charge.

A GB from a US Dealer might actually make the most sense. With the state of the economy in the US - and the fact that the canadian dollar will strengthen over time, it might make sense to do a RFD Day Trip to Buffalo to get snow's. Only thing is we will have to pay GST unless you leave your current tires in the states.

I once went to a place in Niagara Falls NY and paid $500US for 4 snow tires. They took my old snows and put the old rims on the new tires and I left my old bald tires there - didnt have to pay tax on the way back.

The place is called Gene's auto warehouse. And is pretty ghetto - there was this huge black woman in a cadillac who got 22" spinning rims put on when I was there..

[Jucius Maximus]

I once went to a place in Niagara Falls NY and paid $500US for 4 snow tires. They took my old snows and put the old rims on the new tires and I left my old bald tires there - didnt have to pay tax on the way back.

Did you declare the new tires mounted on your rims?

[Quiggie]

I'd probably be down for it if it's a good deal.

[GangStarr]

/me is in for blizzaks, would consider driving to buf if the prices is right.

[m4gician]

Instead of buffalo, you could ust go as far as Niagara falls, NY. Mike @ 24/7 tire will receive your tires for you free of charge and mount, balance and install them when you get there ANYTIME at his garage.

Very friendly guy, and very affordable. $60 for 4 tires on one car, I'm sure he'll go lower if he's doing 10 - 20 cars because of RFD.

His info is on Tirerack under postal code 14303

[Quiggie]

But how much would customs charge you when entering back to Canada?

[iam_immigrant]

We should get going on this if we want to avoid the winter rush/premiums....so any news on this happening?

[Flyer]

But how much would customs charge you when entering back to Canada?
7% of the total cost, coverted to Canadian dollars for duties and 5% GST. Have a receipt handy, or I will assume you paid $200 per tire ;)

EDIT: Just be honest about it, and you might get by without any charges whatsoever...

[Jucius Maximus]

We should get going on this if we want to avoid the winter rush/premiums....so any news on this happening?

Getting your Winters in September is plenty early... most people (i.e. outside RFD) don't start thinking about it until the snow starts falling and their friend / co-worker / son / etc) gets into a fender bender with Summer tires.

The main thing I would stock up on at this point is STEEL RIMs. They go out of stock so fast and it is hard to get OEM. Order them now, and keep them in your basement. Then it's easy to get your Winters in September mounted and balanced and everything so they are ready to roll.

[Dealz-4-U]

count me in too, im assuming 17".

whichever is cheaper, simplytire or wherever the group buy is.

:)

[Trowa]

I'm in too for 17" if the price is right.

[iam_immigrant]

Getting your Winters in September is plenty early... most people (i.e. outside RFD) don't start thinking about it until the snow starts falling and their friend / co-worker / son / etc) gets into a fender bender with Summer tires.

The main thing I would stock up on at this point is STEEL RIMs. They go out of stock so fast and it is hard to get OEM. Order them now, and keep them in your basement. Then it's easy to get your Winters in September mounted and balanced and everything so they are ready to roll.


Already have winter rims lined up so that's why I'm getting ready for the tyres.

[bembol]

So we have several who are interested in 17's. OP, please give us an update.

[executor]

blizzaks or x-ice. tire size 215/65R 16

[Rekognize]

Instead of buffalo, you could ust go as far as Niagara falls, NY. Mike @ 24/7 tire will receive your tires for you free of charge and mount, balance and install them when you get there ANYTIME at his garage.

Very friendly guy, and very affordable. $60 for 4 tires on one car, I'm sure he'll go lower if he's doing 10 - 20 cars because of RFD.

His info is on Tirerack under postal code 14303

+1 for Mike

[yanksingh]

When is a good time to look for winter tires? I went to dealer for quote and the person on counter was looking at me like i'm ******** or something. Tire rack is still out of stock on most winter tires.

i'm looking for 215/60/16 (09 Accord)

[Feb30th]

Going to buy snow tires for the first time this fall... which one you guys think in the best? I'm looking for 17" or 18" tires.

[Rekognize]

Get a set of Gislaved Nordfrost 5

[marymmcc]

looking for 17" on rims.

[ES_Revenge]

Uh here's a question... Why the heck is there a group buy for winter tyres posted in July/August :confused:

What's wrong with you people??? LOL.

It's bad enough that I still see people driving around with winter tyres at this time of year (which is dangerous depending on the tyre)--BTW what the hell is wrong with these people? :confused: --but now we have to see people lining up to buy more winter tyres in the middle of summer?

Yeah I know it's good to get them ahead of time, but man I do not want to be thinking about winter right now I'll tell you that much >:(

[Mardos]

count me in for a good price as well.

[Tiggs]

We've got two cars and would be interested depending on the pricing.

[Bleys007]

Uh here's a question... Why the heck is there a group buy for winter tyres posted in July/August :confused:

What's wrong with you people??? LOL.

It's bad enough that I still see people driving around with winter tyres at this time of year (which is dangerous depending on the tyre)--BTW what the hell is wrong with these people? :confused: --but now we have to see people lining up to buy more winter tyres in the middle of summer?

Yeah I know it's good to get them ahead of time, but man I do not want to be thinking about winter right now I'll tell you that much >:(

Welcome to RFD, we buy things when we can get a good price on them. Off-season is probably a better time to buy, as opposed to when demand has skyrocketed from new provincial laws requiring snow tires (Quebec). Now would be the PERFECT time to set up a group buy for winter tires.

And despite the fact that I just bought a new set (CT's when they were on sale this past winter)I would love to know how much a set of 4 would run: 175/65 R14, just tires

Next car I buy in 1.5 years (year or two old Yaris) will fit the same as my echo, so I'm happy to save a bunch now.

Actually, that being said, is there any risk of having a new set of snow tires sit around for 3-4 years before being used? If there is, maybe I should sit out on this one.

[Nonopeno]

Just got an A3, would like some 17" snow tires :)

i have no idea what brand/model is good.. so i will go with the crowd..

Count me in!

[ES_Revenge]

Welcome to RFD, we buy things when we can get a good price on them. Off-season is probably a better time to buy, as opposed to when ...
LOL no need for the "this is RFD" lecture :lol: I was just saying talking about winter is depressing/scary right now. We've barely had much of a summer so far, I definitely don't even want to think about winter--too late now I guess :(

Also while you have some merit with the "demand/Quebec" bit, you also should remember that the tyre makers often have rebates going on and for winter tyres those rebates don't show up until it's closer to wintertime. Therefore buying now, you are actually likely paying more money (though arguably not having to worry about availability).

Just got an A3, would like some 17" snow tires :)

i have no idea what brand/model is good.. so i will go with the crowd..

Count me in!
Definitely recommend a performance winter on this vehicle and for driving in the city. Goodyear UltraGrip Performance or Dunlop WinterSport 3D come to mind right away ;) Should be about $1000 for the set (just tyres) on this vehicle.

[PCDawg]

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Also while you have some merit with the "demand/Quebec" bit, you also should remember that the tyre makers often have rebates going on and for winter tyres those rebates don't show up until it's closer to wintertime. Therefore buying now, you are actually likely paying more money (though arguably not having to worry about availability).
.....

Quite true, the manufacturers wont start pushing out winter tires til mid to late sept and that is when the retail shops knows which ones have rebates or are more heavily discounted.

Waiting til then is better since even buying in early october is still too early and you still dont need to worry if they will run out of stock or not.

[Pavel]

Definitely recommend a performance winter on this vehicle and for driving in the city. Goodyear UltraGrip Performance or Dunlop WinterSport 3D come to mind right away ;) Should be about $1000 for the set (just tyres) on this vehicle.
Have u considered the Nokian WR-G2? The UltriGrip isn't that popular. OTOH, the Dunlops are really good.
Getting your Winters in September is plenty early... most people (i.e. outside RFD) don't start thinking about it until the snow starts falling and their friend / co-worker / son / etc) gets into a fender bender with Summer tires.

The main thing I would stock up on at this point is STEEL RIMs. They go out of stock so fast and it is hard to get OEM. Order them now, and keep them in your basement. Then it's easy to get your Winters in September mounted and balanced and everything so they are ready to roll.
Looks like the steelies have gone up this year, according to TireRack. I imagine at the local level, they'll be also higher too.

[sam123]

09 Honda CR-V, interested in winters as well. Package tires, rims, TPMS balanced and ready to slap on in Nov.
Open to suggestions on size and tire as well. Willing to drive to NF or Buff. to pick them up and pay duty.

[ES_Revenge]

Have u considered the Nokian WR-G2? The UltriGrip isn't that popular. OTOH, the Dunlops are really good.
WR stinks, LOL. The regular UltraGrips are garbage, you're right (they are outdated) but the performance UltraGrips (Ultra Grip Performance and Eagle UltraGrip GW3) are another story. In their class they are quite good. The former is a euro winter tyre brought over here to fill some of the sizes the GW3 doesn't cover.

It's funny that you say the Dunlops are really good because the Eagle UltraGrip GW3 is nearly the same and the UG Performance has similar, er, performance as well. One notable difference is the GW3 and WinterSport 3D are directional whereas the UG Performance is asymmetric.

[sam123]

Get a set of Gislaved Nordfrost 5
Where did you get yours, how much?

[Kongee]

I need winters this year ..so i will be in depending which gp is the cheapest.

I need 15's

[deal_dealer]

Yokohama Ice Guard.

[Vladimir]

I have never bought Winter Tires :!: and since I bought a new car, I definitely going to buy some for my car. I have no idea what is a good brand, I will be driving a lot of highway, and on roads that are not cleared very well.
I know nothing about sizes, but I have a 2010 Mazda 3 GT sedan,.
I would want steel rims as well (used are fine).
I would be in this if price is right, I want GOOD winter tires, I don't really care about price,l but if we can get a deal that is great.
I wouldn't mind crossing the border if I can save at least $300 for 4 tires. otherwise I would buy in Canada.

[Quiggie]

Guys do you think they will have Nokian Hakkapeliitta RSi's? I don't want "average" winter tires like blizzaks or x-ice's, I want the very best there is!

How much would it cost for a set of 16" hakkapeliitas?

[Vladimir]

Guys do you think they will have Nokian Hakkapeliitta RSi's? I don't want "average" winter tires like blizzaks or x-ice's, I want the very best there is!

How much would it cost for a set of 16" hakkapeliitas?

haha that is what I was looking at.. I don't know much about brands, but I constantly hear those are the best.
and im in waterloo to:p

[Pavel]

WR stinks, LOL. The regular UltraGrips are garbage, you're right (they are outdated) but the performance UltraGrips (Ultra Grip Performance and Eagle UltraGrip GW3) are another story. In their class they are quite good. The former is a euro winter tyre brought over here to fill some of the sizes the GW3 doesn't cover.

It's funny that you say the Dunlops are really good because the Eagle UltraGrip GW3 is nearly the same and the UG Performance has similar, er, performance as well. One notable difference is the GW3 and WinterSport 3D are directional whereas the UG Performance is asymmetric.

ARe you referring to the older WRs? There is a new model called the WRG2 that is the first all season tire that is snow rated with a snow flake symbol. It has one snow flake symbol out of three. Unforunately, that link that I bookmarked that shows the number of snow flake symbols is no longer valid but here are a few others on the ratings of winter tires (tyres):

http://www.rubberassociation.ca/wintertires.html
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.jsp?type=W&VT=C
haha that is what I was looking at.. I don't know much about brands, but I constantly hear those are the best.
and im in waterloo to:p
The Yokohama's previously mentioned are really good as are the Blizzaks. It's just the Blizzaks don't last that long.

In a European tire test last year, the X-Ice2s did well, much better than the RSis. If you look at the tread pattern of the RSIs, it's not that much different than the Canadian Tire Goodyear Nordics. But like anything, it's all relative to what kind of driving you're doing and what kind of snow you have. For me, I wasn't impressed with the X-Ice 2's traction with the pacific west coastal snow. There was no bite to them.

Neither the Blizzaks or Michelin's are considered "average" tires by the professionals. It was reported the RSIs werent that great in our Vancouvery wintery conditions last year.

[Jucius Maximus]

Get a set of Gislaved Nordfrost 5

Got these last year from SimplyTire.
$830 including 16" steelies, including tax & install.
No complaints here!

[Ashtangi]

I'd consider this as well - I'm looking at 205/50 17s, and had originally planned to go with Tirerack for a tire and alloy wheel package.

[ES_Revenge]

ARe you referring to the older WRs? There is a new model called the WRG2 that is the first all season tire that is snow rated with a snow flake symbol. It has one snow flake symbol out of three. Unforunately, that link that I bookmarked that shows the number of snow flake symbols is no longer valid but here are a few others on the ratings of winter tires (tyres):
WR double-you-schmar. New version or the old, still stinks. It is more a winter tyre that they encourage you to drive in the summer with and end up wearing them out quickly. So yeah it's good in winter but it sucks in summer. Like any "all season" there are trade-offs, unsafe ones at that.

The Hak RSi on the other hand, now that is a good winter tyre. Good in pretty much all winter situations. But the price is certainly up there. If you can afford it, great; but otherwise I think buying a winter tyre for your particular driving area (i.e. performance winter for big cities, regular winter for other areas) is the way to go.

The Yokohama's previously mentioned are really good as are the Blizzaks. It's just the Blizzaks don't last that long.
Maybe the new Blizzaks but tell that to my sister and her first gen Blizzaks of which are so old the date code is 97 on them and I've been begging her to replace them, but the tread still looks like new nearly (no joke). Granted she doesn't really drive that much (her 13 year old car has only 160,000km on it) but still, I have no idea how the tread actually looks that unused on them. :confused:

In a European tire test last year, the X-Ice2s did well, much better than the RSis. If you look at the tread pattern of the RSIs, it's not that much different than the Canadian Tire Goodyear Nordics.
Tread patterns "looking like" another tyre have very little to do with actual performance. Goodyear Nordics are unbelievably bad winter tyres (they are only good in snow and nothing else), the RSi is about a thousand times better. You can make a tyre "look like" any other tyre, but if the compound and construction isn't the same the tyre can be vastly different in performance.

But like anything, it's all relative to what kind of driving you're doing and what kind of snow you have. For me, I wasn't impressed with the X-Ice 2's traction with the pacific west coastal snow. There was no bite to them.

Neither the Blizzaks or Michelin's are considered "average" tires by the professionals. It was reported the RSIs werent that great in our Vancouvery wintery conditions last year.
I would not call them average either. But what you're saying is that none of the Blizzak (which Blizzak by the way the WS or the Revo or the LM?), the X-Ice2, or the RSi is good for Vancouver? LOL. So what did you find was good then? I'd imagine a performance winter is much more suited to Vancouver than a regular winter tyre...

That's another thing about witners I don't think many people grasp. Sub categories of winter tyres--Performance winters and regular winters--have very different characteristics in winter conditions. In the summer you basically encounter two things, wet and dry (unless you are off-roading which is another story). In the winter you can encounter many different surfaces--snow, slush, ice, salt, dry, wet and any combination of those.

The "regular" type of winter tyres are usually more geared towards snow covered surfaces whereas performance types give up some snow performance for better slushy, wet, and dry conditions performance. This is why it's much better to use a performance winter tyre in city areas where snow is plowed promptly, salting is heavy, and sheer traffic volume also eliminates accumulation (or where there is otherwise not much snowfall and ice formation).

[Vladimir]

so what would you recommend for highway and country driving? I do very little city. Country driving means not too often/badly plowed roads... The highway is usually good, but can be slushy sometimes.

[Pavel]

WR double-you-schmar. New version or the old, still stinks. It is more a winter tyre that they encourage you to drive in the summer with and end up wearing them out quickly. So yeah it's good in winter but it sucks in summer. Like any "all season" there are trade-offs, unsafe ones at that.

What makes them unsafe?
Tread patterns "looking like" another tyre have very little to do with actual performance. Goodyear Nordics are unbelievably bad winter tyres (they are only good in snow and nothing else), the RSi is about a thousand times better. You can make a tyre "look like" any other tyre, but if the compound and construction isn't the same the tyre can be vastly different in performance.

Most definitely, but consider the price of the Nordics vs the Haks.

I would not call them average either. But what you're saying is that none of the Blizzak (which Blizzak by the way the WS or the Revo or the LM?), the X-Ice2, or the RSi is good for Vancouver? LOL. So what did you find was good then? I'd imagine a performance winter is much more suited to Vancouver than a regular winter tyre...

I wish I had the luxury of trying out all winter tires to find one. In my case, I'll be getting a decent all season, likely the Nokians and a set of chains. I think the Nokians are rated for 80,000 KMs. However, the wife needs a decent set for her car. Likely, I'll be getting the Firestone Winterforce from TireRack unless the dealers around town will have some decent specials on it or other tires. I'm not convinced on the RSis for use in Metro Vancouver.

The "regular" type of winter tyres are usually more geared towards snow covered surfaces whereas performance types give up some snow performance for better slushy, wet, and dry conditions performance. This is why it's much better to use a performance winter tyre in city areas where snow is plowed promptly, salting is heavy, and sheer traffic volume also eliminates accumulation (or where there is otherwise not much snowfall and ice formation).
Very true. Snow is not plowed promptly in Vancouver and it takes many, many, weeks if at all, for the side streets to be plowed after a snowfall.

[Jucius Maximus]

What makes them unsafe?
Most definitely, but consider the price of the Nordics vs the Haks.


I would pay $400 more for tires that make me stop 1 inch sooner, considering that my insurance deductible is $500!:!:

[Pavel]

I would pay $400 more for tires that make me stop 1 inch sooner, considering that my insurance deductible is $500!:!:
How about $800 more to stop 2 inches sooner? :D
Isnt that the same kind of logic that some fitness outfits use on you when getting a gym membership...How much is your health worth to you?

[Jucius Maximus]

How about $800 more to stop 2 inches sooner? :D
Isnt that the same kind of logic that some fitness outfits use on you when getting a gym membership...How much is your health worth to you?

It's more about the hassle of dealing with insurance, body shops, rental cars, the reduced resale value of your car, etc.

Reducing wasted time, hassle and stress is worth a lot to me.

I spent $830 last year on Winters... I wouldn't have been willing to go over $1200.

[sam123]

I would pay $400 more for tires that make me stop 1 inch sooner, considering that my insurance deductible is $500!:!:
A few years ago I slid through a stop sign on some black ice. Had I stopped 1" sooner I'd have missed stopping where the doors are on a bus that was moving through the intersection. When the rest of the bus moved past ........... result 4 hours late for work, a charge, couple of grand in buss repair, grand for my car, endless hours of grief. Worth the extra $ for excellent snows.

[Brandon]

I'm interested in pricing for winter tires for my 09 Altima 2.5 SL. I'm looking at the X-Ice2, Blizzak WS-60 and Dunlop Graspic DS3. And I need steel rims, preferrably OEM's otherwise I might just grab them from the dealership.

[m4gician]

How's that list coming? (Just go up and down each page and write down tire sizes) :)

185/65/15, prefer something H rated or T rated at the very least.

[CCCPres]

Hi there,

There is an auto shop by my work in Mississauga (Hwy 10/Britannia) and I was talking to the owner about a possible group buy for snow tires. He has done some in the past but for only like 5 people - He obviously has not been involved in a redflag GB.

I want to get a list going and submit it to him sometime in August so we can get a feel for his prices.

Please put your make/model of your car and size/make/steelies or own rims.

Thanks,
Whizz

Hi Guys,

I have a wholesale acct at www.TireRack.com in the U.S., so I can get them for even less than their already low prices. Not a ton less, but enough to cover the bulk of the shipping and border costs.

I bought a ton of tires for members last year when the CDN dollar was strong, so now that its back, I'll start again and you guys/gals are more than welcome to be a part of it.

The biggest killer when buying from the states is the shipping and border costs, but the extra discount I get covers the bulk of it.

The more I order the cheaper the shipping costs are per tire as well.

So if anyone wants to check out the site at www.TireRack.com, just price them out and add the exchange. Figure on 10% + $15 per tire to cover all of the misc costs + pst+gst, which should be safe, since I'll exchange at bulk at discount rates as well. No use everyone doing their own exchange and getting killed by fees.

Anyhow, PM me if you are interested. If I get at least 10 sets ordered it will be worthwhile for everyone.

BTW- I'm not making any money with this offer. The RFD family has been good to me, so I'm just returning the favour.:razz:

If you pick them up at our Mississauga office, there will be no additional costs.

Later,
CCCPres

[EscaBoi]

I'd recommend Simply Tire (GTA North-East) and Tires23 to (GTA West) to anyone considering buying tires. Besides the fact that they are our sponsors, their prices are great, along with great customer service.

I got my winters from Simply Tire during the group buy and Allen and his crew did a great job, so I'd highly recommend getting them from there. Though I've dealt with Tires23, the positive feedback from people is reassuring.

[iam_immigrant]

So lets get organized and get a list going.

(this is of course dependent on pricing)

1. iam_immigrant 215/45/17 either Gislaved Nordfrost 5 or X-Ice2

[CCCPres]

So lets get organized and get a list going.

(this is of course dependent on pricing)

1. iam_immigrant 215/45/17 either Gislaved Nordfrost 5 or X-Ice2

Does this sound like a good deal?

215/45R17 XL Bridgestone Blizzak LM-25
Blackwall In Stock 4x $99.00= $396.00

UPS CANADA STANDARD 08/14/2009 - 08/17/2009 $108.66

Additional Fees and Taxes
Excise Tax: $0.00
GST: $22.19
PST: $44.19
Duty: $27.72
Provincial Tire Fee: $0.00
Brokerage Fee: $20.00
Grand Total (USD): $618.76

Here are my wholesale costs

215/45R17 Bridgestone Blizzak LM-25 BlackwallLoadRating: XL In Stock 4x $89.00 = $356.00

UPS CANADA STANDARD 08/14/2009 - 08/17/2009 $108.66

Additional Fees and Taxes
Excise Tax: $0.00
GST: $20.05
PST: $0.00 (I would still have to collect and submit it directly)
Duty: $24.92
Provincial Tire Fee: $0.00
Brokerage Fee: $20.00
COD Fee: $0.00

Grand Total (USD):$529.63 Actual total will likely be about $500USD (incl PST and reduced shipping due to bulk load)

Not sure, but doesn't sound too bad.

These were on clearance, so they may have limited supply. All others were more $$$

Can someone please check with a local dealer to see whether these are worth getting?

BTW- Unless the savings are substantial its not worth the hassle. Plus I would always prefer to buy local if we can to keep the biz here and in case you have warranty issues.

Later,
CCCPres

[CCCPres]

So lets get organized and get a list going.

(this is of course dependent on pricing)

1. iam_immigrant 215/45/17 either Gislaved Nordfrost 5 or X-Ice2

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Michelin X-Ice Xi2 (I have these on my wife's Audi Quattro and its like driving on dry pavement) $129 USD wholesale each + all costs above and no stock anywhere until Sept
Here's the link http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Michelin&tireModel=X-Ice+Xi2&partnum=145TR7XI2&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes

Doesn't look like they carry Gislaved at TireRack

BTW- Here's the link to the Blizzaks I mentioned in the previous post http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Bridgestone&tireModel=Blizzak+LM-25&partnum=145VR7BZLM25XL&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes

[Pavel]

I just found an old link on the ratings of some winter tyres in Canada from the Automobile Protection Association: http://www.apa.ca/template.asp?DocID=297

[Feb30th]

Shouldn't we wait a bit and see what's new for the 2009-2010 winter?

[mpsrent]

I'm interested in pricing for winter tires for my 09 Altima 2.5 SL. I'm looking at the X-Ice2, Blizzak WS-60 and Dunlop Graspic DS3. And I need steel rims, preferrably OEM's otherwise I might just grab them from the dealership.

I bought a Altima 2.5S in February and got a set of X-Ice2 and black rims from Tires23 in Mississauga courtesy of this web site. I believe with tax it was in the $900 range. The tires are great. I live in the central Ontario snowbelt and commute 100km's every day in all kinds of weather. The tires are so good that I drive the Nissan every day, even though I also have a 4wd GMC Envoy as an alternate vehicle.

[iam_immigrant]

------------

Michelin X-Ice Xi2 (I have these on my wife's Audi Quattro and its like driving on dry pavement) $129 USD wholesale each + all costs above and no stock anywhere until Sept
Here's the link http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Michelin&tireModel=X-Ice+Xi2&partnum=145TR7XI2&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes

Doesn't look like they carry Gislaved at TireRack

BTW- Here's the link to the Blizzaks I mentioned in the previous post http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Bridgestone&tireModel=Blizzak+LM-25&partnum=145VR7BZLM25XL&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes


I'm looking for one of the mentioned tires because I'll be commuting and I need to have dependable tires.

And I would prefer to deal locally.

[Jucius Maximus]

And I would prefer to deal locally.

Perhaps you should fill in Your Details (http://www.redflagdeals.com/user/index.php?action=edit_profile) so people will know where you're located... ;)

[Pavel]

I bought a Altima 2.5S in February and got a set of X-Ice2 and black rims from Tires23 in Mississauga courtesy of this web site. I believe with tax it was in the $900 range. The tires are great. I live in the central Ontario snowbelt and commute 100km's every day in all kinds of weather. The tires are so good that I drive the Nissan every day, even though I also have a 4wd GMC Envoy as an alternate vehicle.
I bought my X-Ice2 from Costco last year. I returned them after a week because they were crap. They had no teeth to them in our wet snow. In addition to the drive, the car's handling and traction/stability control have a bearing on how well your tires perform.

[weedb0y]

Plus his 2.5 has barely any torque to have huge need for winters.

GMC Envoy could really use the winter tires. ;)

Anyway, if this is still going.

I need 16" Winters for my CTS, possibly with steelies.

[evoviii]

On the genesis coupe, I have 18's. 17's should be possible right?

Not looking forward to the winter storms

[TCWeasel]

Considering the road clearing in Brantford, I think winters would probably be a good idea.

Unless I wanted to drive on the sidewalk, they clean those pretty damned quickly.


I don't need anything extravagant. I've a Hyundai Elantra. I'm also in need of some all seasons on the puppy.

[Downtown]

I'm interested. '09 Pilot - 245/65/17. Looking for tires and rims. Also need TPMS sensors.

Thanks.

[CCCPres]

Guys

Please price out the tires on TireRack.com yourself. I don't have time to price out tires for everybody.:D

Then use the comparison I added a few posts back to give you an idea of the bulk buy final price.

Then check locally to see if it makes sense to buy this way.

If it does, let me know:razz:

Thx
Paul

[Darkique]

Hi all,

Just got my first car, still wondering if i should get winter tires. I live in Toronto, probably be driving a fair bit during winter (hopefully when its not snowstorming) and i own a 09 Civic.

Also, if I do decide that I'll need to pick up a set of snowtires, would getting them off RFD during a GB be the best option in terms of quality, pricing and convenience?

Thanks!

[Anonymouse]

If you're a new driver, your instincts and ability to "feel" the road are not as highly developed as you find in people who've been through 10 winters. The foot or two of stopping distance that you save with a good set of winter tires can make the difference between happy motoring with reasonable insurance rates and a much more unpleasant experience.

Some snow tires, particularly the Blizzak type, do not have uniform properties through the full depth of the tread. Beware of used ones. If you are going to keep this car for 8 years or so, you will be buying two sets of tires anyhow, and one of them may as well be snow tires.

Also, some tires are optimized for ice and some for deep snow; in Toronto you want the former type IMO, but honest men can differ on this.

[Trowa]

are we getting this together or what?

[bembol]

+1 What happened to the OP?

[Pavel]

Guys

Please price out the tires on TireRack.com yourself. I don't have time to price out tires for everybody.:D

Then use the comparison I added a few posts back to give you an idea of the bulk buy final price.
According to your post (#62) one can count on 10% off the TireRack Price? Does the 10% off also apply to the shipping costs too (forget about UPS etc for now) or just the tires/wheels? Can people outside the TO area get in on this group buy?

[Jucius Maximus]

are we getting this together or what?

Come September you can be sure there will be options in Tire GBs. ;)

Personally I will not be participating as I was in last year's GB.

[jrnight]

Hi CCCPres,

On your calculations, For the $500 you say that PST is included in your estimate. The second set of numbers $529 doesn't include PST of ~$43. You're assuming that the shipping fees would average $40-$50 in bulk instead of the $108.

This looks like 20% off Tirerack pricing, instead of the previous mentioned 10%. I just wanted to confirm the approximate discount we would expect. 10%, 15% or 20% off.

I looking for 2 sets of tires/wheels.

Thanks

Does this sound like a good deal?

215/45R17 XL Bridgestone Blizzak LM-25
Blackwall In Stock 4x $99.00= $396.00

UPS CANADA STANDARD 08/14/2009 - 08/17/2009 $108.66

Additional Fees and Taxes
Excise Tax: $0.00
GST: $22.19
PST: $44.19
Duty: $27.72
Provincial Tire Fee: $0.00
Brokerage Fee: $20.00
Grand Total (USD): $618.76

Here are my wholesale costs

215/45R17 Bridgestone Blizzak LM-25 BlackwallLoadRating: XL In Stock 4x $89.00 = $356.00

UPS CANADA STANDARD 08/14/2009 - 08/17/2009 $108.66

Additional Fees and Taxes
Excise Tax: $0.00
GST: $20.05
PST: $0.00 (I would still have to collect and submit it directly)
Duty: $24.92
Provincial Tire Fee: $0.00
Brokerage Fee: $20.00
COD Fee: $0.00

Grand Total (USD):$529.63 Actual total will likely be about $500USD (incl PST and reduced shipping due to bulk load)

Not sure, but doesn't sound too bad.

These were on clearance, so they may have limited supply. All others were more $$$

Can someone please check with a local dealer to see whether these are worth getting?

BTW- Unless the savings are substantial its not worth the hassle. Plus I would always prefer to buy local if we can to keep the biz here and in case you have warranty issues.

Later,
CCCPres

[Azxster]

I am interested in a GB in Buffalo/Niagara Falls

[Jucius Maximus]

Come September you can be sure there will be options in Tire GBs. ;)

Personally I will not be participating as I was in last year's GB.

Edit: Deals already in progress! (http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=775893) :razz:

[nogoro]

I purchased my car earlier this year and it will need snow tires. I may be going to the US for a short trip in the fall and thought it would be a good time to buy tires and then have $400 duty exemption. Are there stores which will likely offer competitive prices? I was thinking Walmart or Costco down there but wasn't too impressed by the online price.

Hoping for more well-known shops... should be going to the Detroit/Chicago area. Thanks in advance.

[Jucius Maximus]

I purchased my car earlier this year and it will need snow tires. I may be going to the US for a short trip in the fall and thought it would be a good time to buy tires and then have $400 duty exemption. Are there stores which will likely offer competitive prices? I was thinking Walmart or Costco down there but wasn't too impressed by the online price.

Hoping for more well-known shops... should be going to the Detroit/Chicago area. Thanks in advance.

Get the tires at Tire Rack and ship them to a local shop near the border and pick them up there.

[nogoro]

Get the tires at Tire Rack and ship them to a local shop near the border and pick them up there.

I was planning to take the tires with me back to my own shop, so that doesn't mesh with your suggestion.

But it seems the main factory of tirerack.com is just east of Chicago so maybe it would work after all :)

[Jucius Maximus]

I was planning to take the tires with me back to my own shop, so that doesn't mesh with your suggestion.

But it seems the main factory of tirerack.com is just east of Chicago so maybe it would work after all :)

No this makes a lot of sense. Just pick up the rubber from a local shop and throw it into your trunk. This way you don't risk getting charged duty on your whole car because you made an alternation that improved the value.

[Pavel]

No this makes a lot of sense. Just pick up the rubber from a local shop and throw it into your trunk. This way you don't risk getting charged duty on your whole car because you made an alternation that improved the value.

That's not good advice: risking your car being impounded and being permently flagged by customs in order to avoid paying tax.

[executor]

That's not good advice: risking your car being impounded and being permently flagged by customs in order to avoid paying tax.

just be honest, 9 times out of 10 you won't get charged anyway unless you get a customs officer having a bad day. the canadian side is pretty good. at least they were in windsor.

[CCCPres]

just be honest, 9 times out of 10 you won't get charged anyway unless you get a customs officer having a bad day. the canadian side is pretty good. at least they were in windsor.

I agree 100%. Why take the risk?

CCCPres

[myhusky]

I'd save the hassle and just buy local. I will need buy winter tires this year for both my car and suv. Looking forward to the group buy

[Feb30th]

just be honest, 9 times out of 10 you won't get charged anyway unless you get a customs officer having a bad day. the canadian side is pretty good. at least they were in windsor.

Ture, but what do you say when the Custom officer asks what did you buy or how much you bought in the State? Do you lie to them?

[jrnight]

CCCPres,

So are we to expect roughly 10%, 15% or 20% off the Tirerack pricing. Thanks.

I did some tests with doubling my order on Tirerack. Instead of the shipping costs being 50% or 75% higher, it was just double. Maybe your rates are different?

Hi CCCPres,

On your calculations, For the $500 you say that PST is included in your estimate. The second set of numbers $529 doesn't include PST of ~$43. You're assuming that the shipping fees would average $40-$50 in bulk instead of the $108.

This looks like 20% off Tirerack pricing, instead of the previous mentioned 10%. I just wanted to confirm the approximate discount we would expect. 10%, 15% or 20% off.

I looking for 2 sets of tires/wheels.

Thanks

[m4gician]

I'd love that, I'll drive down on my old tires as well so that he can seperate them and I can sell them. They have 1 good winter left on them, but I'd like some new ones for myself.

[CCCPres]

CCCPres,

So are we to expect roughly 10%, 15% or 20% off the Tirerack pricing. Thanks.

I did some tests with doubling my order on Tirerack. Instead of the shipping costs being 50% or 75% higher, it was just double. Maybe your rates are different?


The wholesale discount varies, but is usually around 10%-15%, plus our bulk shipping method usually comes in at about half of the regular price.

CCCPres

[CCCPres]

According to your post (#62) one can count on 10% off the TireRack Price? Does the 10% off also apply to the shipping costs too (forget about UPS etc for now) or just the tires/wheels? Can people outside the TO area get in on this group buy?

Hi Pavel,

The wholesale discount varies, but is usually around 10%-15% off the tires and wheels, plus our bulk shipping method usually comes in at about half of the regular price.

So the total savings could end up being about 20% depending on the tires you buy, which warehouse they are in and how many people we can get in on the GB. :D

Almost forgot. Out of TO people are also welcome as long as you are willing to pick them up in Mississauga.

CCCPres

[Ashtangi]

What does everything think about the Blizzak WS-60 vs. the Dunlop Winter Sport 3D - which one is better suited to Toronto? I do the majority of my winter commuting on the Gardiner and the 427.

[VTECMAN]

2007 Lexus is250 awd..

17"

[myhusky]

2007 Lexus is250 awd..

17"

you can use 16" for winter, it's cheaper and bigger side wall better protection against pot holes. I have 2006 is250 awd and need to get snow tires this year

[JGarcha]

Hi there,

I am looking following set of Tires from tire rack

4 Tires (One Set) 235/65/R16 Bridgeston Blizzak (For Honda Odyssey)

4 Tires (One Set) 215/60/R16 Michelin X-ice xi2 (2008 Toyota Camry)

Can you pls tell me how I can place an order from these tires?

Regards

Jas

Hi there,

There is an auto shop by my work in Mississauga (Hwy 10/Britannia) and I was talking to the owner about a possible group buy for snow tires. He has done some in the past but for only like 5 people - He obviously has not been involved in a redflag GB.

I want to get a list going and submit it to him sometime in August so we can get a feel for his prices.

Please put your make/model of your car and size/make/steelies or own rims.

Thanks,
Whizz

[Jucius Maximus]

That's not good advice: risking your car being impounded and being permently flagged by customs in order to avoid paying tax.

Dude, did you even read my post?
I am talking about not paying duty on improvements to a vehicle. This means that you avoid paying duty on the entire value of your car, even if you purchased the car in Canada. This is 100% legit and legal assuming you do not actually mount the tires in the USA!

I never said anything about trying to defraud customs or failing the declare the purchase of tires themselves, or avoiding duty on just the cost of the tires.

[i-o_o-i]

anyone ever deal with Bailey Tire in Buffalo? http://www.buffalonytires.com/home.html
According to their site they serve a lot of Canadian customers. I emailed them for a price quote for some winter tires and some rims I want to get for summer. If I'm going to purchase the tires in Buffalo and then bring back my current tires, how much should I expect to be taxed by customs?
They also say they can get rims/wheels from tirerack.com, anyone have experience buying rims with them? If prices are close to tirerack prices for rims, it would be pretty good.

[Pavel]

I never said anything about trying to defraud customs or failing the declare the purchase of tires themselves, or avoiding duty on just the cost of the tires.

Well done. Thanks for clarifying. :)

[desitarzan]

Well done. Thanks for clarifying. :)

I am interested in bulk buy my tire size are one set (4 tires) 215/65/r16 goodyear triple tred

[CCCPres]

TireRack GB update


It looks like TR won't have much stock of winter tires till mid-Sept, so we have some time to get everybody organized.

To estimate your cost of tires and rims please see my post from a few days ago.

Thx
CCCPres

[leprechaun]

I'll join the GB. I need snows for two cars (with steel rims).

205/55R16 (2007 Mazda 3) and 215/65R16 (2007 Sienna CE).

Thanks.

[_RFDealt_]

I'm in for any group buy that is a good price. 195-65-15 for my Honda Civic. Would prefer 15" steelies of course!

[Pavel]

Almost forgot. Out of TO people are also welcome as long as you are willing to pick them up in Mississauga.
Thanks. I guess I'm out of luck unless there is someone else in the West that can organize a GB with TR or if there are special arranges via PM. Then again you'd have everyone from all over the country PMing you. >:(

[i-o_o-i]

TireRack GB update


It looks like TR won't have much stock of winter tires till mid-Sept, so we have some time to get everybody organized.

To estimate your cost of tires and rims please see my post from a few days ago.

Thx
CCCPres
So this would include any of the rims that tirerack carries? Such as Enkei rims?

[Pyro]

hey guys
fyi local guys are starting to run early bird winter group buys
prices look to be around 650 - 750+ or more depending on tire brand/size
this is including steelies, mounting balancing etc

Simply Tire, Tires23 and Exclusive Wheel and Tires on on the toronto mazda 3 forums advertising this

let me know what you guys think in terms of pricing...this is my first time buying so i dont really know what im doing lol

[_RFDealt_]

For these early bird deals, including mounting, who the heck is going to mount 3 months before winter? Or can we get the tires now and go back later?

[CCCPres]

So this would include any of the rims that tirerack carries? Such as Enkei rims?

It should. If you want to post the TR retail quote details, I'll double check the wholesale GB price for you

CCCPres

[evoviii]

Definitely keeping an eye on this, was initially contemplating purchasing from TR and shipping it to buffalo for pick up.

Question

Pricing I would assume would be after duties, mounting and whatever fees involved aside from the usual taxes

[jrnight]

It should. If you want to post the TR retail quote details, I'll double check the wholesale GB price for you

CCCPres

CCCPres,
Could you please estimate the pricing for this order, so I and others can get an idea of what to expect.

Thanks for all your work.


2009 Acura RDX

SHIPPING METHODS
Choose Your Preferred Shipping Method
Items shipping from South Bend, Indiana

Tire and Wheel Packages
Item Description Availability Qty. Price Each Item Total
17X7.5 Elbrus I06 Black Machined w/Ice Coating
09/26/09 4 $119.00 $476.00
225/65R17 Bridgestone Blizzak DM-V1
Blackwall In Stock 4 $107.00 $428.00
315MHZ TIRE PRESSURE SENSOR
In Stock 4 $27.00 $108.00

Hunter Road Force™ Mounting and Balancing
FREE! FREE!
Shipping Options from South Bend, Indiana (choose one)
Shipping Method Estimated Delivery Date Cost
UPS CANADA STANDARD 10/02/2009 - 10/05/2009 $256.40


Additional Fees and Taxes
Excise Tax: $0.00
GST: $55.03
PST: $108.55
Duty: $58.52
Provincial Tire Fee: $0.00
Brokerage Fee: $30.00
Grand Total (USD): $1,520.50

[pricha00]

I would love to get in on this deal. I need a set of steelies and some rubber for an 02 Civic SiR. I am running 195/60/15 right now which is OEM size. I am looking to keep the same size in winter rubber. If we order rims and rubber I am assuming that TR mounts and balances and all I would have to do is pickup in Mississauga area.


Pat.

[i-o_o-i]

It should. If you want to post the TR retail quote details, I'll double check the wholesale GB price for you

CCCPres
Here is the price, from checkout at tirerack.com:
16x7 Enkei Performance EDR9 Bright Silver Paint - $135/each ($540 for 4)
UPS CANADA STANDARD ( 08/28/2009 - 08/31/2009) $96.54
Additional Fees and Taxes
Excise Tax: $0.00
GST: $30.12
PST: $55.91
Duty: $32.40
Provincial Tire Fee: $0.00
Brokerage Fee: $30.00
Grand Total (USD):$784.97

Thanks in advance! Would it be the same price if I bought with tires or not?

[KorruptioN]

Simply Tire, Tires23 and Exclusive Wheel and Tires on on the toronto mazda 3 forums advertising this

Would you be able to post up some more detailed info? Just shopping around...

[i-o_o-i]

Would you be able to post up some more detailed info? Just shopping around...

simplytire has a post here too: http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=778542

[Pyro]

For these early bird deals, including mounting, who the heck is going to mount 3 months before winter? Or can we get the tires now and go back later?

im sure u can mount later

if you buy before sept 1, you can avoid 20 bucks in new goverment fees as well

[CCCPres]

QUOTE=i-o_o-i;9288413]Here is the price, from checkout at tirerack.com:
16x7 Enkei Performance EDR9 Bright Silver Paint - $135/each ($540 for 4)
UPS CANADA STANDARD ( 08/28/2009 - 08/31/2009) $96.54
Additional Fees and Taxes
Excise Tax: $0.00
GST: $30.12
PST: $55.91
Duty: $32.40
Provincial Tire Fee: $0.00
Brokerage Fee: $30.00
Grand Total (USD):$784.97

Thanks in advance! Would it be the same price if I bought with tires or not?[/QUOTE]

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Hi

I can't get an exact price unless I know the yr make and model of the vehicle its going on.

Ballpark savings would be about 10% on the rims and half on the shipping, which would be about $100 USD less than the retail number above. But it could be a touch more or less

http://www.tirerackwholesale.com/vehicles/BigPic.jsp?wheelMake=Enkei+Performance&wheelModel=EDR9&wheelFinish=Bright+Silver+Paint

Nice rims btw:D

Update: I just checked those rims assuming you were putting them on a Mazda3. It shouldn't be much different, regardless of the car.

The rims alone are only $118 vs $135 Retail which is about 15% off. Not bad!

I also selected some tires which seem like a screaming deal.

205/55ZR16 Dunlop SP Sport 8000 for only $55.00! . . that's crazy!


Check it out below including tires, mounted and balanced for free:

16x7 Enkei Performance EDR9
Bright Silver Paint
for 2009 Mazda MAZDA3 4-Door i Sport 4 $118.00 $472.00
See specific installation hardware included at no charge.

205/55ZR16 Dunlop SP Sport 8000
Blackwall
for 2009 Mazda MAZDA3 4-Door i Sport 4 $55.00 $220.00
These tires and wheels will be mounted and balanced at NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE.
Shipping Sub-Total: $202.86
Excise Tax: $0.00
GST: $38.29
PST: $0.00
Duty: $43.72
Provincial Tire Fee: $0.00
Brokerage Fee: $30.00
COD Fee: $0.00
Order Total: $1,006.87 USD + PST - about $100 for group shipping over just under $1,000 USD all in . . . sweet!


CCCPres

[canabiz]

Hello, I am interested in getting 2 winter tires for my 1993 Toyota Camry. I am located in Ottawa though so how does it work? From my research, i can have TireRack ship the tires to an UPS office in Odgensburg, NY and I can come and pick them up?

Please advise.

P.S: If this is too much of a hassle for 2 winter tires, I will simply pick up a pair at a local Canadian Tire.

[yanksingh]

If this is too much of a hassle, I will simply pick up a pair at a local Canadian Tire.

+1, i'm from Ottawa too and looking for winter tires with rims and TPMS for 2009 accord (215/60/16)

i checked out tirerack for WS60 for Grand Total (USD): $1,223.81 (shipping to Ottawa)

let me know what's the best you can do? thanks


16 inch Style 15 (set of 4)
In Stock 1 $32.00 $32.00
16X6.5 New Steel Wheel Black Painted
In Stock 4 $57.00 $228.00
215/60R16 Bridgestone Blizzak WS-60
Blackwall In Stock 4 $96.00 $384.00
315MHZ TIRE PRESSURE SENSOR
In Stock 4 $32.00 $128.00
Hunter Road Force™ Mounting and Balancing
FREE! FREE!
Shipping Options from South Bend, Indiana (choose one) Shipping Method Estimated Delivery Date Cost
UPS CANADA STANDARD 08/31/2009 - 09/01/2009 $249.59



Additional Fees and Taxes
Excise Tax: $0.00
GST: $42.22
PST: $87.52
Duty: $42.48
Provincial Tire Fee: $0.00
Brokerage Fee: $30.00
Grand Total (USD): $1,223.81

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[i-o_o-i]

Hi

I can't get an exact price unless I know the yr make and model of the vehicle its going on.

Ballpark savings would be about 10% on the rims and half on the shipping, which would be about $100 USD less than the retail number above. But it could be a touch more or less

http://www.tirerackwholesale.com/vehicles/BigPic.jsp?wheelMake=Enkei+Performance&wheelModel=EDR9&wheelFinish=Bright+Silver+Paint

Nice rims btw:D

Update: I just checked those rims assuming you were putting them on a Mazda3. It shouldn't be much different, regardless of the car.

The rims alone are only $118 vs $135 Retail which is about 15% off. Not bad!

I also selected some tires which seem like a screaming deal.

205/55ZR16 Dunlop SP Sport 8000 for only $55.00! . . that's crazy!


Check it out below including tires, mounted and balanced for free:

16x7 Enkei Performance EDR9
Bright Silver Paint
for 2009 Mazda MAZDA3 4-Door i Sport 4 $118.00 $472.00
See specific installation hardware included at no charge.

205/55ZR16 Dunlop SP Sport 8000
Blackwall
for 2009 Mazda MAZDA3 4-Door i Sport 4 $55.00 $220.00
These tires and wheels will be mounted and balanced at NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE.
Shipping Sub-Total: $202.86
Excise Tax: $0.00
GST: $38.29
PST: $0.00
Duty: $43.72
Provincial Tire Fee: $0.00
Brokerage Fee: $30.00
COD Fee: $0.00
Order Total: $1,006.87 USD + PST - about $100 for group shipping over just under $1,000 USD all in . . . sweet!


CCCPres
Thanks a lot for the quote, I am actually looking to mount my current all season tires onto those rims, then I will purchase a set of winter tires to mount on my stock rims, still it wouldn't make much of a difference besides the price of the tires would cost $200-300 more right?

[_RFDealt_]

OK, lets organize this. Like we tried before. I haven't participated in many group buys but would it be easier if we all chose one brand of tire like x-ice 2? Either way, add your name to the list:

1. iam_immigrant 215/45/17 either Gislaved Nordfrost 5 or X-Ice2
2. _RFDealt_ 195/65/15 X-Ice2 or whatever's cheap

[BeaverLiquor]

since they don't carry the other 2 tires i'm considering, what is the all in price for the ws60's in 205/55/16?

[ehsu]

OK, lets organize this. Like we tried before. I haven't participated in many group buys but would it be easier if we all chose one brand of tire like x-ice 2? Either way, add your name to the list:

1. iam_immigrant 215/45/17 either Gislaved Nordfrost 5 or X-Ice2
2. _RFDealt_ 195/65/15 X-Ice2 or whatever's cheap


1. iam_immigrant 215/45/17 either Gislaved Nordfrost 5 or X-Ice2
2. _RFDealt_ 195/65/15 X-Ice2 or whatever's cheap
3. ehsu 215/45/17 either Gislaved Nordfrost 5 or X-Ice2 + steelies

[_RFDealt_]

1. iam_immigrant 215/45/17 either Gislaved Nordfrost 5 or X-Ice2
2. _RFDealt_ 195/65/15 X-Ice2 or whatever's cheap
3. ehsu 215/45/17 either Gislaved Nordfrost 5 or X-Ice2 + steelies

Snow Tire Group Buy #1 List
1. iam_immigrant 215/45/17 either Gislaved Nordfrost 5 or X-Ice2
2. _RFDealt_ 195/65/15 X-Ice2 or whatever's cheap + steelies
3. ehsu 215/45/17 either Gislaved Nordfrost 5 or X-Ice2 + steelie

[Feb30th]

OK, lets organize this. Like we tried before. I haven't participated in many group buys but would it be easier if we all chose one brand of tire like x-ice 2? Either way, add your name to the list:

1. iam_immigrant 215/45/17 either Gislaved Nordfrost 5 or X-Ice2
2. _RFDealt_ 195/65/15 X-Ice2 or whatever's cheap

So are we buying from Tire Rack through CCCPres? If we are we should be able to choose our own brand and model... Many models out there don't have my size, so if you are guys are just choosing between Gislaved or X-Ice 2 won't work for me.

[djjosee]

+1, i'm from Ottawa too and looking for winter tires with rims and TPMS for 2009 accord (215/60/16)

i checked out tirerack for WS60 for Grand Total (USD): $1,223.81 (shipping to Ottawa)

let me know what's the best you can do? thanks


16 inch Style 15 (set of 4)
In Stock 1 $32.00 $32.00
16X6.5 New Steel Wheel Black Painted
In Stock 4 $57.00 $228.00
215/60R16 Bridgestone Blizzak WS-60
Blackwall In Stock 4 $96.00 $384.00
315MHZ TIRE PRESSURE SENSOR
In Stock 4 $32.00 $128.00
Hunter Road Force™ Mounting and Balancing
FREE! FREE!
Shipping Options from South Bend, Indiana (choose one) Shipping Method Estimated Delivery Date Cost
UPS CANADA STANDARD 08/31/2009 - 09/01/2009 $249.59



Additional Fees and Taxes
Excise Tax: $0.00
GST: $42.22
PST: $87.52
Duty: $42.48
Provincial Tire Fee: $0.00
Brokerage Fee: $30.00
Grand Total (USD): $1,223.81

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I'm in Ottawa as well ... I may go the Costco route if nothing better come along.

[rackman]

Hi,

I saw some comments regarding the Gislaved Nordfrost 5's. I purchased a set last year for my '01 Corolla (175/60/14 i think), and was quite satisfied with them. I believe they were about $100 each installed.

I put less than 10k on them (ran them from November to mid-April), without visible wear.

They paid for themselves during a trip from North Bay, ON to Toronto...in which there was a snow storm from North Bay to Barrie.

I need a new set of snows for an '09 CSX (likely downsizing to 16"); very seriously contemplating another set of Nordfrost 5's.

If anyone has some suggestions on what to run on a CSX, please let me know. I'd be looking for wheels (steel or alloy depending on the price) too.

[Brandon]

I'm in Ottawa as well ... I may go the Costco route if nothing better come along.

+1, looking for XIce2's with steel rims for my 2009 Nissan Altima 2.5SL.

[QTheNukes]

Hey CCCPres, I have been watching the quotes you are punching out for people and I can't help but think that the shipping is hurting the deals a lot. I have run a few calculations and figure that I can take a van and a trailer down to Indiana, pick up 20 sets of tires, spend one night, and then return for less than $1000.00

That works out to a mere $50.00 per set of 4 tires with rims.

A friend and I would be willing to do the trip in September when everyones tires are in and ready to be picked up. We could then deliver them to your business in Mississauga.

Between my friend and I we are looking for 4 sets, we would only need to find another 16 sets on here to make it a steal of redflagdeal.

Would anyone be interested in that arrangement???


QUOTE=i-o_o-i;9288413]Here is the price, from checkout at tirerack.com:
16x7 Enkei Performance EDR9 Bright Silver Paint - $135/each ($540 for 4)
UPS CANADA STANDARD ( 08/28/2009 - 08/31/2009) $96.54
Additional Fees and Taxes
Excise Tax: $0.00
GST: $30.12
PST: $55.91
Duty: $32.40
Provincial Tire Fee: $0.00
Brokerage Fee: $30.00
Grand Total (USD):$784.97

Thanks in advance! Would it be the same price if I bought with tires or not?

---------------------------------
Hi

I can't get an exact price unless I know the yr make and model of the vehicle its going on.

Ballpark savings would be about 10% on the rims and half on the shipping, which would be about $100 USD less than the retail number above. But it could be a touch more or less

http://www.tirerackwholesale.com/vehicles/BigPic.jsp?wheelMake=Enkei+Performance&wheelModel=EDR9&wheelFinish=Bright+Silver+Paint

Nice rims btw:D

Update: I just checked those rims assuming you were putting them on a Mazda3. It shouldn't be much different, regardless of the car.

The rims alone are only $118 vs $135 Retail which is about 15% off. Not bad!

I also selected some tires which seem like a screaming deal.

205/55ZR16 Dunlop SP Sport 8000 for only $55.00! . . that's crazy!


Check it out below including tires, mounted and balanced for free:

16x7 Enkei Performance EDR9
Bright Silver Paint
for 2009 Mazda MAZDA3 4-Door i Sport 4 $118.00 $472.00
See specific installation hardware included at no charge.

205/55ZR16 Dunlop SP Sport 8000
Blackwall
for 2009 Mazda MAZDA3 4-Door i Sport 4 $55.00 $220.00
These tires and wheels will be mounted and balanced at NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE.
Shipping Sub-Total: $202.86
Excise Tax: $0.00
GST: $38.29
PST: $0.00
Duty: $43.72
Provincial Tire Fee: $0.00
Brokerage Fee: $30.00
COD Fee: $0.00
Order Total: $1,006.87 USD + PST - about $100 for group shipping over just under $1,000 USD all in . . . sweet!


CCCPres[/QUOTE]

[Feb30th]

I don't think bulk shipping is expensive... according to CCCPres the shipping is half of what is quoted in Tire Rack... which would come out to be about $25-30 per set of tires.

[QTheNukes]

I don't think bulk shipping is expensive... according to CCCPres the shipping is half of what is quoted in Tire Rack... which would come out to be about $25-30 per set of tires.

Perhaps this is where one of us is confused........but I think it is $25-$30 per tire, and not per set. I could pick them up for a rate or $10-$15 per tire, or $40-$50 per set.

CCCPres can you confirm?

[_RFDealt_]

QTheNukes, that list of 3 people would most likely be interested. Would you be able to get steelies as well?

[canabiz]

I'm in Ottawa as well ... I may go the Costco route if nothing better come along.

I was at Costco on Merivale earlier and asked about winter tires for my car ('93 Camry and 195/70R/14). Long story short, i can have 1 Michelin X-Ice for $127.99 installed so make it $250 for 2 all in.

A couple of other brand names are available (Tiger Paws and Bridgestone) but they aren't much cheaper.

I may check out WalMart or keep an eye out for second hand deals via usedottawa or craigslist.

[QTheNukes]

QTheNukes, that list of 3 people would most likely be interested. Would you be able to get steelies as well?

CCCPres would still have to do the purchasing to keep the costs down, i would just do the shipping. I assume you mean steel rims? Whatever people order I can pickup, 20 sets is about the best I can do with my current setup, but if we got up to 40 sets I could do two trips or rent a trailer bigger than mine.

[b2sai]

does group buy need to be same size and brand?

[QTheNukes]

does group buy need to be same size and brand?

Not at all, discounts are had by buying from the same place.

[CCCPres]

Perhaps this is where one of us is confused........but I think it is $25-$30 per tire, and not per set. I could pick them up for a rate or $10-$15 per tire, or $40-$50 per set.

CCCPres can you confirm?

I'll have to pull out my invoice from the last time I bought 5 sets from TR. I think it worked out to about $20-$25 per tire/wheel, but I'm not sure.

I don't know whether bringing 20 sets across will be too easy. You might get a hassle at the border. Plus you'll have to use a broker who needs to know the origin of each tire. Tires not made in North America (most of them) are subject to a 6.1% duty plus PST+GST + a broker fee.

Anyhow, I'll find out tomorrow

Later,
CCCPres

[_RFDealt_]

Also, I'm not sure what the advantage is of doing a group buy if we're all doing different tires/different sizes/different packages? How does that work out to cheaper versus all of us dealing with CCCPres?

[Tdotshopper]

1. iam_immigrant 215/45/17 either Gislaved Nordfrost 5 or X-Ice2
2. _RFDealt_ 195/65/15 X-Ice2 or whatever's cheap
3. ehsu 215/45/17 either Gislaved Nordfrost 5 or X-Ice2 + steelies
4. Tdotshopper (1995 BMW 325is) 195/65/15 either Gislaved Nordfrost 5 or X-Ice2, just tires

When and where can i pick up the tires?

[callicles]

For my 2006 525i with standard tires, I found on TR the following:

17x7.5 Elbrus I05 Silver Machined w/Ice Coating
In Stock 4 $119.00 $476.00
225/50R17 Bridgestone Blizzak WS-60
Blackwall In Stock 4 $142.00 $568.00
Hunter Road Force™ Mounting and Balancing
FREE! FREE!
Shipping Options from South Bend, Indiana (choose one) Shipping Method Estimated Delivery Date Cost
UPS STANDARD (CANADA) 09/02/2009 - 09/03/2009 $231.60

Additional Fees and Taxes
Excise Tax: $0.00
GST: $57.12
PST: $109.91
Duty: $68.32
Provincial Tire Fee: $0.00
Brokerage Fee: $30.00
Grand Total (USD): $1,540.95

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So approx (if you can't get exact numbers) how much would I save going your route? Thanks in advance.

[evoviii]

1. iam_immigrant 215/45/17 either Gislaved Nordfrost 5 or X-Ice2
2. _RFDealt_ 195/65/15 X-Ice2 or whatever's cheap
3. ehsu 215/45/17 either Gislaved Nordfrost 5 or X-Ice2 + steelies
4. Tdotshopper (1995 BMW 325is) 195/65/15 either Gislaved Nordfrost 5 or X-Ice2, just tires
5. evoviii 225/50/17 front and 225/55/17 rear Dunlop Wintersport 3d or X-Ice2

[m4gician]

okay guys, what's happening?

[Vladimir]

huh, I don't see nordfrost on the site or am I blind?

[Feb30th]

1. iam_immigrant 215/45/17 either Gislaved Nordfrost 5 or X-Ice2
2. _RFDealt_ 195/65/15 X-Ice2 or whatever's cheap
3. ehsu 215/45/17 either Gislaved Nordfrost 5 or X-Ice2 + steelies
4. Tdotshopper (1995 BMW 325is) 195/65/15 either Gislaved Nordfrost 5 or X-Ice2, just tires
5. evoviii 225/50/17 front and 225/55/17 rear Dunlop Wintersport 3d or X-Ice2
6. Feb30th - Front 225/40R18 and Rear 255/40R18 Bridgestone Blizzak LM-60 (RFT or not)

I think Tire Rack has the best price right now. Also shouldn't we wait a little bit for manufacture rebates?

[evoviii]

I think Tire Rack has the best price right now. Also shouldn't we wait a little bit for manufacture rebates?

Just getting a quote now and comparing with others. Will factor in reputation and such. If the difference is small compared to other group buys, I may favour someone with a brick and mortar presence.

[m4gician]

I'll have to pull out my invoice from the last time I bought 5 sets from TR. I think it worked out to about $20-$25 per tire/wheel, but I'm not sure.

I don't know whether bringing 20 sets across will be too easy. You might get a hassle at the border. Plus you'll have to use a broker who needs to know the origin of each tire. Tires not made in North America (most of them) are subject to a 6.1% duty plus PST+GST + a broker fee.

Anyhow, I'll find out tomorrow

Later,
CCCPres

Hey, could you update as soon as possible? I'd like to get down on this if you're getting a $25 discount per tire, I'll buy two sets in two sizes.

[BlueStar]

Count me in on this Tire Rack GB once things get more organized.

[QTheNukes]

Count me in on this Tire Rack GB once things get more organized.

Looks like we are in the neighbourhood of 12-15 sets at this point. I am currently looking into what kind of charges there would be at the border if we tried to drive them all over. Waiting to hear how it compares to CCCPres's last 5 set buy.

[GangStarr]

I am in for 1 rim + tire package, perhaps even two. Once things get organized I'll put my money where my mouth is.

I want blizzaks

[m4gician]

CCCpres is our organizer on this, if he can get us this discount, or organize a coupon code we can all use then I'm good!

[BBoberson]

Here is the price, from checkout at tirerack.com:
16x7 Enkei Performance EDR9 Bright Silver Paint - $135/each ($540 for 4)
UPS CANADA STANDARD ( 08/28/2009 - 08/31/2009) $96.54
Additional Fees and Taxes
Excise Tax: $0.00
GST: $30.12
PST: $55.91
Duty: $32.40
Provincial Tire Fee: $0.00
Brokerage Fee: $30.00
Grand Total (USD):$784.97

Thanks in advance! Would it be the same price if I bought with tires or not?

They are cheaper to buy from 1010tires.com. Only $165CDN. http://www.1010tires.com/wheel.asp?wheelbrand=Enkei&wheelmodel=EDR9

Plus they always have their winter free shipping promo start up in mid September as well.

[Noob1ee]

I'm in for a 15" Blizzack Tires + Rim package.

[canabiz]

I just picked up a set of 4 second-hand Nordic with rims for $300. Tires are still in good shae and they still got lots of tread left. I was planning to go with TireRack and have the tires shipped to Odgensburg but after you factor in the travel and the gas and since I don't plan to keep this car for too long, i decided to go the used route.

[PwA]

I am interested in the blizzak ws-60 + steeleies 195/65/15

I was quoted this from tirerack.com

15X6.5 New Steel Wheel Black Painted
09/29/09 4 $47.00 $188.00
195/65R15 Bridgestone Blizzak WS-60
Blackwall In Stock 4 $82.00 $328.00

Hunter Road Force™ Mounting and Balancing
FREE! FREE!
Shipping Options from South Bend, Indiana (choose one)
Shipping Method Estimated Delivery Date Cost
UPS STANDARD (CANADA) 10/05/2009 - 10/06/2009 $202.08

Additional Fees and Taxes
Excise Tax: $0.00
GST: $29.01
PST: $62.59
Duty: $34.24
Provincial Tire Fee: $0.00
Brokerage Fee: $30.00
Grand Total (USD):

$873.92

[m4gician]

CCCpres, any updates?

[Trowa]

I'm out of this group buy. I got a deal I couldn't pass.

sorry guys,

[evoviii]

Lack of updates is a bit disconcerting

[CCCPres]

Originally Posted by i-o_o-i
Here is the price, from checkout at tirerack.com:
16x7 Enkei Performance EDR9 Bright Silver Paint - $135/each ($540 for 4)
UPS CANADA STANDARD ( 08/28/2009 - 08/31/2009) $96.54
Additional Fees and Taxes
Excise Tax: $0.00
GST: $30.12
PST: $55.91
Duty: $32.40
Provincial Tire Fee: $0.00
Brokerage Fee: $30.00
Grand Total (USD):$784.97

Thanks in advance! Would it be the same price if I bought with tires or not?

They are cheaper to buy from 1010tires.com. Only $165CDN. http://www.1010tires.com/wheel.asp?wheelbrand=Enkei&wheelmodel=EDR9

Plus they always have their winter free shipping promo start up in mid September as well.

Update: I just checked those rims assuming you were putting them on a Mazda3. It shouldn't be much different, regardless of the car.

The rims alone are only $118 vs $135 Retail which is about 15% off. Not bad!

I also selected some tires which seem like a screaming deal.

205/55ZR16 Dunlop SP Sport 8000 for only $55.00! . . that's crazy!


Check it out below including tires, mounted and balanced for free:

16x7 Enkei Performance EDR9
Bright Silver Paint
for 2009 Mazda MAZDA3 4-Door i Sport 4 $118.00 $472.00
See specific installation hardware included at no charge.

205/55ZR16 Dunlop SP Sport 8000
Blackwall
for 2009 Mazda MAZDA3 4-Door i Sport 4 $55.00 $220.00
These tires and wheels will be mounted and balanced at NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE.
Shipping Sub-Total: $202.86
Excise Tax: $0.00
GST: $38.29
PST: $0.00
Duty: $43.72
Provincial Tire Fee: $0.00
Brokerage Fee: $30.00
COD Fee: $0.00
Order Total: $1,006.87 USD + PST - about $100 for group shipping over just under $1,000 USD all in . . . sweet!


CCCPres

[c_snapper]

is this group buy actually going to happen?

are we going to go with CCCPres via TireRack, or are we going to work with a local retailer?

[Tdotshopper]

Would like to change my tire options:

4 tires only General Altimax Artic (tirerack sells for US$63.00ea) 195/65/15
1. iam_immigrant 215/45/17 either Gislaved Nordfrost 5 or X-Ice2
2. _RFDealt_ 195/65/15 X-Ice2 or whatever's cheap
3. ehsu 215/45/17 either Gislaved Nordfrost 5 or X-Ice2 + steelies
4. Tdotshopper (1995 BMW 325is) 195/65/15 either Gislaved Nordfrost 5 or X-Ice2, just tires

When and where can i pick up the tires?

[Trowa]

Do tell???

Micheline X-Ice Xi2, 17" Rims for $800 tax in.

[CCCPres]

Hi guys/gals,

There's a new snow tires GB #2. I would suggest everyone go with him.

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=783811

Clearly QTheNukes has more time on his hands than I do to organize this thing and it looks like he can get the same deals as I could, so go for it.

One thing I would suggest is that since he is doing this for no profit that everybody should throw at least $5-$10 cash per tire for his time, especially considering the savings and the aggrevation he'll be going through. :D

Cheers,
CCCPres

[Feb30th]

Great.... snow tire group buy #2 and #3 just fell apart... now what :P

[gamer123]

join simplytire's gb

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=778542

[QTheNukes]

join simplytire's gb

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=778542

Thats garbage, how is it any different then my group buy???? The only difference is that hes making money off people????????