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amz155
Jul 15th, 2009, 04:24 PM
I finally decided to replace my BPA-containing Nalgene water bottle. I wasn't sure what to buy initially so chose a stainless steel bottle from Winners with a screw on cap. It's just okay. (It's kinda like a SIGG knock off.)

Cons:
-Its not insulated so sweats a lot.
-I find that I spill my water down my top more often wtih this bottle than with my older Nalgene that had a narrower opening. This one's got an opening about 2" so that its not too big but I could still put ice cubes in. I thought this would be small enough to avoid the spillage issue that I found common with water bottles with huge openings (ie the older style large Nalgene bottle)
-I find that my water stays colder for less time in this bottle than my old Nalgene

So, I'm determined to find another bottle that addresses the above issues. I already spent about 13 bucks on the first one so if I spend $15-20 on a better one (which I think is an outrageous amount but I DO want to find a long lasting, safe bottle), I wanna be darned sure its gonna perform.

I'm thinking maybe something with a narrower spout?

Options:

-SIGG Sport Water bottle that comes with a screw off cap (so I could put ice in) that also flips back to reveal a smaller spout (to avoid spillage)

http://www.mysigg.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWCATS&Category=45

-Camelbak bottle which has screw off lid, folding spout and is spill proof

http://www.camelbak.com/sports-recreation/bottles/better-bottle-75L.aspx

Opinions? Any others I should consider?

deep
Jul 15th, 2009, 04:48 PM
The Sigg sport series won't allow you to put normal sized ice cubes in them...you need to go with the wide mouth series to do that. Look closely at the pic and you'll see the Sports has the same narrow mouth their regular bottles have.

I got a few narrow plastic freezer things with cheap bottles years ago - the bottle are long gone, but the freezer things still work, and slide nicely into the Sigg bottle.

dmxlite
Jul 15th, 2009, 04:53 PM
Why not get the BPA free version of the Nalgene bottle that you have?
http://www.nalgene-outdoor.com/

I finally decided to replace my BPA-containing Nalgene water bottle. I wasn't sure what to buy initially so chose a stainless steel bottle from Winners with a screw on cap. It's just okay. (It's kinda like a SIGG knock off.)

Cons:
-Its not insulated so sweats a lot.
-I find that I spill my water down my top more often wtih this bottle than with my older Nalgene that had a narrower opening. This one's got an opening about 2" so that its not too big but I could still put ice cubes in. I thought this would be small enough to avoid the spillage issue that I found common with water bottles with huge openings (ie the older style large Nalgene bottle)
-I find that my water stays colder for less time in this bottle than my old Nalgene

So, I'm determined to find another bottle that addresses the above issues. I already spent about 13 bucks on the first one so if I spend $15-20 on a better one (which I think is an outrageous amount but I DO want to find a long lasting, safe bottle), I wanna be darned sure its gonna perform.

I'm thinking maybe something with a narrower spout?

Options:

-SIGG Sport Water bottle that comes with a screw off cap (so I could put ice in) that also flips back to reveal a smaller spout (to avoid spillage)

http://www.mysigg.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWCATS&Category=45

-Camelbak bottle which has screw off lid, folding spout and is spill proof

http://www.camelbak.com/sports-recreation/bottles/better-bottle-75L.aspx

Opinions? Any others I should consider?

amz155
Jul 15th, 2009, 04:54 PM
The Sigg sport series won't allow you to put normal sized ice cubes in them...you need to go with the wide mouth series to do that. Look closely at the pic and you'll see the Sports has the same narrow mouth their regular bottles have.

I got a few narrow plastic freezer things with cheap bottles years ago - the bottle are long gone, but the freezer things still work, and slide nicely into the Sigg bottle.

Ah, yes, you're right. This could work with those narrow ice cube trays. I've seen those.

Re: the wider mouth bottles: I just find that with wide mouth bottles you have to be really careful when tipping to bottle back to avoid spilling water. It would seem easier to take a quick swig from a bottle with a narrower spout or at least a narrow spout that somehow screws onto a wider opening to allow for ice cubes.

amz155
Jul 15th, 2009, 04:55 PM
Why not get the BPA free version of the Nalgene bottle that you have?
http://www.nalgene-outdoor.com/

I actaully have a narrow spout version of the Nalgene which was always a pain bc I couldn't put ice cubes in. I've tried the wide mouth ones and I just end up spilling the drink inside. A narrower spoiut works better for taking quick swigs during activity or using it while driving, on the subway, etc.

amz155
Jul 15th, 2009, 04:57 PM
There's also the Nalgene On The Go bottles which are not leak proof as per the product description. Or the Grip n Gulp which look small. I need something at least 750 ml-1L.

TCB069
Jul 15th, 2009, 05:48 PM
I finally decided to replace my BPA-containing Nalgene water bottle. I wasn't sure what to buy initially so chose a stainless steel bottle from Winners with a screw on cap. It's just okay. (It's kinda like a SIGG knock off.)

Cons:
-Its not insulated so sweats a lot.
-I find that I spill my water down my top more often wtih this bottle than with my older Nalgene that had a narrower opening. This one's got an opening about 2" so that its not too big but I could still put ice cubes in. I thought this would be small enough to avoid the spillage issue that I found common with water bottles with huge openings (ie the older style large Nalgene bottle)
-I find that my water stays colder for less time in this bottle than my old Nalgene

So, I'm determined to find another bottle that addresses the above issues. I already spent about 13 bucks on the first one so if I spend $15-20 on a better one (which I think is an outrageous amount but I DO want to find a long lasting, safe bottle), I wanna be darned sure its gonna perform.

I'm thinking maybe something with a narrower spout?

Options:

-SIGG Sport Water bottle that comes with a screw off cap (so I could put ice in) that also flips back to reveal a smaller spout (to avoid spillage)

http://www.mysigg.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWCATS&Category=45

-Camelbak bottle which has screw off lid, folding spout and is spill proof

http://www.camelbak.com/sports-recreation/bottles/better-bottle-75L.aspx

Opinions? Any others I should consider?

Klean Kanteen and Laken also make metal water bottles. They come in a variety of sizes and screw off lids. Klean Kanteen bottles are fairly generic stainless steel and thus sweats a lot. I've only seen wide mouth bottles. Laken is similar to Sigg so it can have a variety of designs on it with a small mouth. I haven't seen any Laken bottles with a wide mouth.

amz155
Jul 15th, 2009, 06:15 PM
Klean Kanteen and Laken also make metal water bottles. They come in a variety of sizes and screw off lids. Klean Kanteen bottles are fairly generic stainless steel and thus sweats a lot. I've only seen wide mouth bottles. Laken is similar to Sigg so it can have a variety of designs on it with a small mouth. I haven't seen any Laken bottles with a wide mouth.

Thanks. I've seen the Klean Kanteen one but since they aren't insulated it won't be much of an improvement to the one I have now. Also, the website says you can't put it in the freezer. Another thing to add to the wish list, is freezer compatibility.

Laken's "Hit" bottle might work....though it just looks like they're made of aluminum so it'll sweat.

mrsmagoo2001
Jul 16th, 2009, 07:43 PM
I have the Camelbak bottle and it will leak out of the air hole when it falls around inside my pack. Have to keep it upright. Other wise I like it a lot.

amz155
Jul 16th, 2009, 08:00 PM
I have the Camelbak bottle and it will leak out of the air hole when it falls around inside my pack. Have to keep it upright. Other wise I like it a lot.

Good to know. I guess Camelbak is a no-go then due to the leaking issue. I toss my bottle around a lot in the car, in my bag, so it'd have to be leak free.

mcplar
Jul 17th, 2009, 03:05 PM
I recently picked up a Guyot bottle. Very nice design and very durable.

Here's a link to a review.
http://safewaterbottlereview.com/reviews/guyot-designs-stainless-steel-water-bottle-review/

amz155
Jul 17th, 2009, 05:40 PM
I recently picked up a Guyot bottle. Very nice design and very durable.

Here's a link to a review.
http://safewaterbottlereview.com/reviews/guyot-designs-stainless-steel-water-bottle-review/

Thanks but like I mentioned above, I don't want one with a wide mouth because I want to be able to take quick sips while driving, being active and wide mouth bottles tend to spill easily.

mcplar
Jul 17th, 2009, 05:45 PM
Just throw one of these in the mouth...
It's a splash guard.

http://www.h2ox2.com/store/images/Guyot-splashguard.jpg

craftsman
Jul 17th, 2009, 07:04 PM
Why replace the bottle at all?

If you actually read the research out there on BPA (rather than the precautionary notes from various so called environmental groups), all of it points to the fact that BPA is HARMLESS even in fairly large doses. In fact, while BPA does get transfered into your body when consumed, the level of BPA is far below what is considered remotely dangerous and it gets passed out of the body during the course of a normal day.

What's a dangerous level? According to Dr. David Miller, toxicologist and professor of biochemistry at Carleton University, "To get any effects [from BPA] you would have to melt your bottles down and spoon the stuff in."

Besides, almost every container out there will leach something from the container into the product it is holding. Ever drink water with a plastic or metallic taste to it?

If we applied the "precautionary" principle to other more dangerous things, we would all still be living in caves. For example, if the "precautionary" principle was applied to fire, no-one would be allowed to use it and it would be banned due to the possible link of the smoke from the fire to cause cancer and the heat to cause burns.

amz155
Jul 19th, 2009, 10:17 PM
Why replace the bottle at all?

If you actually read the research out there on BPA (rather than the precautionary notes from various so called environmental groups), all of it points to the fact that BPA is HARMLESS even in fairly large doses. In fact, while BPA does get transfered into your body when consumed, the level of BPA is far below what is considered remotely dangerous and it gets passed out of the body during the course of a normal day.

What's a dangerous level? According to Dr. David Miller, toxicologist and professor of biochemistry at Carleton University, "To get any effects [from BPA] you would have to melt your bottles down and spoon the stuff in."

Besides, almost every container out there will leach something from the container into the product it is holding. Ever drink water with a plastic or metallic taste to it?

If we applied the "precautionary" principle to other more dangerous things, we would all still be living in caves. For example, if the "precautionary" principle was applied to fire, no-one would be allowed to use it and it would be banned due to the possible link of the smoke from the fire to cause cancer and the heat to cause burns.


Honestly no, I haven't read all the research out there. At first I was skeptical and then I thought, well they could be right or wrong about BPA being so harmful. If they're right then it doesn't cost much to find a safer alternative. If they're wrong, well at least I have a spanking new water bottle. 20 or so bucks won't make or break me.

Even after all the claims about BPA were out, I still continued to use my old Nalgene bottle. Even for drinking out of after it had been sitting in the heat/sun in my car. Truthfully though, I am a bit tired of drinking water that tastes like plastic. Whether or not BPA in water bottles = cancer, I'm still in the market for a better water bottle.

bythehour
Jul 20th, 2009, 10:09 PM
I have one of each.

The Camelbak has a wide mouth, and I like the handy loop on the lid. I don't like how the spout is exposed, especially if I'm in a dirty environment. I think it comes with a plastic straw (attaching to the spout), but I've never used it. The spout is hard to clean.

The Sigg has a narrowmouth (no ice cubes). The sport cap is pretty cool. It has the cover to keep it clean, and it can be used with pressurized liquids, like pop (or beer :) ), and it comes apart for easy cleaning (way better than the Camelbak). My biggest complaint is about the ease of cleaning. Narrow mouth, sharp threads, seams in the bottle (I think I can feel) means hard to clean. (Sigg sells a cleaning brush, but I haven't picked it up.)

The Kleen Kanteen is my favourite. It has a large mouth, and no seams in the bottle. It also has large threads for the cap which makes it easier to clean. The major downside is that the KK seems to be made of a thinner steel than the Sigg (mind you, the Sigg I have may be a different model, with texturized metal?).

amz155
Jul 20th, 2009, 10:16 PM
I have one of each.

The Camelbak has a wide mouth, and I like the handy loop on the lid. I don't like how the spout is exposed, especially if I'm in a dirty environment. I think it comes with a plastic straw (attaching to the spout), but I've never used it. The spout is hard to clean.

The Sigg has a narrowmouth (no ice cubes). The sport cap is pretty cool. It has the cover to keep it clean, and it can be used with pressurized liquids, like pop (or beer :) ), and it comes apart for easy cleaning (way better than the Camelbak). My biggest complaint is about the ease of cleaning. Narrow mouth, sharp threads, seams in the bottle (I think I can feel) means hard to clean. (Sigg sells a cleaning brush, but I haven't picked it up.)

The Kleen Kanteen is my favourite. It has a large mouth, and no seams in the bottle. It also has large threads for the cap which makes it easier to clean. The major downside is that the KK seems to be made of a thinner steel than the Sigg (mind you, the Sigg I have may be a different model, with texturized metal?).

Good summary. THanks! Over the weekend I was able to see some of each in person and I'm leaning towards a Kleen Kanteen.

craftsman
Jul 20th, 2009, 11:37 PM
Honestly no, I haven't read all the research out there. At first I was skeptical and then I thought, well they could be right or wrong about BPA being so harmful. If they're right then it doesn't cost much to find a safer alternative. If they're wrong, well at least I have a spanking new water bottle. 20 or so bucks won't make or break me.

Even after all the claims about BPA were out, I still continued to use my old Nalgene bottle. Even for drinking out of after it had been sitting in the heat/sun in my car. Truthfully though, I am a bit tired of drinking water that tastes like plastic. Whether or not BPA in water bottles = cancer, I'm still in the market for a better water bottle.

That's fine if you want to replace it for the taste but I thought that the Nalgene bottles were sold on the basis that they don't have a plastic after taste?

You might find that some of the metal bottles will have a metallic after taste.

jennifertann
Sep 3rd, 2009, 03:49 PM
I like my Nestea glass bottle the best :)
It's glass so there's no metallic after taste or risk of Alzheimer's disease from aluminum eroding away in my drink, or cancerous chemicals from plastic melting into my water in scorching hot heat, the mouth is wide enough to put ice cubes in through the top, its easy to clean and dishwasher safe! ... and best of all it was free! (With the purchase of the Nestea liquids inside)

zeddy
Sep 3rd, 2009, 04:26 PM
Thermos brand makes an insulated bottle with sipper lids. A couple of different styles but I use this onehttp://www.thermosbrand.ca/ContentPage.aspx?name=Canadian_Thermos_Products_In c._FDQ801FCDN&Topic=

Kasakato
Sep 4th, 2009, 12:24 AM
For general use I use a standard Sigg bottle I picked up for $5 with some corporate discounts. Its not insulated so it does sweat a bit, but it generally evaporates fairly quickly. The water stays cool for half the day, after which its mostly empty anyways. It is fairly easy to ding up so its not the best bottle if you want something pristine looking.

bythehour
Sep 4th, 2009, 04:31 PM
For insulation and sweating, the Sigg neoprene jacket makes a big difference. I can leave my bottle in my car on a hot sunny day (high 20s*) and the water is still cool after a few hours.

The recent hoopla about BPA in the old Sigg liner is troublesome. It's not the alleged leaching/non-leaching that bugs me. Rather, it's the double-talk that Sigg is spouting. (i.e., they never claimed to be BPA-free, just that they did not leach BPA.) It is very disappointing and, IMO, demonstrates a serious lack of corporate integrity.

joo
Sep 6th, 2009, 05:20 PM
http://www.cayneshousewares.com/product.php?productid=1178&cat=0&page=2

naxos98
Sep 16th, 2009, 11:21 PM
http://www.cayneshousewares.com/product.php?productid=1178&cat=0&page=2

+1 for the Thermos stainless steel bottles. Your drinks stay cold for hours. Fits ice cubes.

Its slightly cheaper at MEC. You can also read 33 reviews for the bottle, pretty much all positive reviews.

http://www.mec.ca/Products/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=84552444262 5604&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302696609&bmUID=1253157254151#BVRRWidgetID