Newegg.ca: AMD Phenom II X4 945 - $197 + Combos!

[ASharp]

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103675

Alright so, Newegg has the AMD Phenom II X4 945 processor clocked in at 3.0GHz available for just $197. This is pretty good considering the next lowest price for the processor (according to PriceCanada) is ~$260. It's a quad core 3.0GHz processor with the 6MB of L3 based on AMD's 45nm manufacturing process. Also, it's an AM3 chip so it supports both DDR2 and DDR3 RAM depending on what motherboard you use. The only real downside is that it's not a black edition processor so overclocking may be a little harder if that's what you plan on doing.

To make the deal even hotter, there's a bunch of combo deals with the processor which you can find over here:
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/ProductCombos.aspx?Item=N82E16819103675&SubCategory=343&SortField=0&PageSize=10&page=1

One of the combos there just happens to be the 945 + a Foxconn A76ML-K motherboard for $197 (http://www.newegg.ca/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.213745). Yep, you basically get the processor for less than $200 PLUS you get a free motherboard. It's not a very good motherboard but it's still more or less free. (Edit: It should also be pointed out that technically, this board does not support 125W processors such as the 945. The board is essentially free but you won't be able to use it in conjunction with this particular CPU.) There are also a few other very decently priced combos on there so take a look.

[funnypanks]

im not in the market so im not really current on prices, but is this not a ridiculously amazing deal?

[Taft]

Terrific post! One of their combos is the CPU plus a motherboard for $199.99. Not only is the CPU a hot deal but Newegg will throw in a motherboard for free! This is the hottest PC components deal in recent memory. High five ASharp!

[addicted2deals]

yea it's a pretty good deal

they're usually 250$ or more

Now if only the Phenom X4 955 would drop a bit :)

[ASharp]

Credit should go to snoosebum over at HardwareCanucks (http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/) (great site by the way ;)). I found the deal over there and just felt like sharing so I thought I'd post it here. :) But yeah, it's a fantastic deal. There really are some great combos there. If you don't want the "free" motherboard from Foxconn, there are a few other ones on there that only cost an extra $25-50. Also some decently priced CPU + RAM combos there as well. For example, you can get the 945 + 4GB OCZ Reaper DDR3-1600 for $224.98 (http://www.newegg.ca/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.207764).

[Koslov]

good price for the combo but I wouldn't put that CPU in it personally.
If someone buy that combo, I might be interested in the cheap motherboard. I was thinking about buying a couple cheap AMD mobos

[heyhey]

That's a good deal!

[Amp]

I just had a PC go out on me, it lasted 6 years so I'm a little behind on knowing the current tech. This looks like a good deal but could anyone give me a little help?

I was looking at using AMD+ATI for the supposed benefits of their "Dragon Platform" - Does Dragon give results or is it just empty marketing? Is there a motherboard you'd suggest with it?

Thanks in advance!

[champdood]

I just had a PC go out on me, it lasted 6 years so I'm a little behind on knowing the current tech. This looks like a good deal but could anyone give me a little help?

I was looking at using AMD+ATI for the supposed benefits of their "Dragon Platform" - Does Dragon give results or is it just empty marketing? Is there a motherboard you'd suggest with it?

Thanks in advance!

Mainly empty marketing. The Dragon platform is actually the 790 chipset (this is the 760, an older one. However it has the SB710 southbridge which is why I just ordered it). Foxconn stuff isn't bad, they make a lot of brand name parts (like Apple) but don't have a huge name for themselves with the general public.

The difference in AMD chipsets is often next to nothing, they add or disable bits of it. The 770 is a lower end 790, the 760 is a lower end 780 (with the 740 below those). The SB750 southbridge supports RAID5, the SB710 doesn't. There are other variations, but unless there's a specific feature you want, you'll probably never notice the difference. Buying from better quality manufacturers matters more (like Gigabyte always use great parts on their boards).

I was about to order a 95W processor since that's all my board can handle, but this is cheaper and faster, so I'm happy :) Thanks OP

[grape]

wow great price.. consider i payed for my 940 for bout 279 4 months ago..

wow these things drop like crazy... wtf -_-

its depressing to checkout these things...

[ASharp]

Price is now actually ~$3 lower at $197 (down from $199.99).

In terms of the Foxconn motherboard that you "get for free", I probably wouldn't use it in conjunction with this CPU. It's more of a budget board and I'm not so sure it would meet the power requirements of the chip. I guess it would be better for people who were planning to build a more powerful machine along with a weaker office machine or HTPC. They can grab a new (better) board for the 945 and a weaker chip for the Foxconn board. Alternatively, like I mentioned in the original post, you can pick up one of the other boards for a few extra bucks instead and have a good powerhouse for cheap.

Even if you're only considering the chip, might as well grab the board anyway since it's free. :-0

[Brewmeanie]

tha's actually a very good deal, so tempted to get it and build another oen.

I got my 940 BE for $230 3 months ago.

[Caspar]

Warning: I hope none of you picked up the Foxconn board from the OP. That board can't handle CPUs above 95w. Worst case you will blow the voltage regulators on the board and take the CPU with it.

No idea why newegg would make a bundle like this... it's stupid

CPU support page for the A76ML-K:
http://www.foxconnsupport.com/cpusupportlist.aspx?type=mb&socket=Socket%20AM2+/AM2&model=A76ML-K&cputype=AMD

Everything is <= 95w

[gill2k]

Oh snapz! That's a smoking deal! Thanks for posting this OP! I'm in the market to replace my aging X2 3800+ and a new mobo. Was looking at the 940 BE.

Thanks again!

[ZipSpeed]

Warning: I hope none of you picked up the Foxconn board from the OP. That board can't handle CPUs above 95w. Worst case you will blow the voltage regulators on the board and take the CPU with it.

No idea why newegg would make a bundle like this... it's stupid

CPU support page for the A76ML-K:
http://www.foxconnsupport.com/cpusupportlist.aspx?type=mb&socket=Socket%20AM2+/AM2&model=A76ML-K&cputype=AMD

Everything is <= 95w

I was just looking into this. I suppose you could try selling the mobo on the side to use the money for a new mobo.

[codtongues]

I was reading tonight that the 965 black edition is almost out and I expect these lower end chips to be reduced in price. You might be able to wait a little and get a 955BE at a very good price.

[Brewmeanie]

there's more then 1 choice of mobo you can combo it off with, if you get this combo, the one with the 790gx board that uses DDR3, it's pretty good.
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.213213,

[champdood]

Warning: I hope none of you picked up the Foxconn board from the OP. That board can't handle CPUs above 95w. Worst case you will blow the voltage regulators on the board and take the CPU with it.

No idea why newegg would make a bundle like this... it's stupid

CPU support page for the A76ML-K:
http://www.foxconnsupport.com/cpusupportlist.aspx?type=mb&socket=Socket%20AM2+/AM2&model=A76ML-K&cputype=AMD

Everything is <= 95w

Thanks for the heads up, I didn't even think the check it, just went on the assumption that if they're bundled, it's supported. I canceled my order just then and will look at something else.

Again, thankyou, you saved me a lot of hassle :)

[DssJoe]

The ASRock is a much better board than the Foxcon. 16GB instead of 8, 1600 memory instead of 1333, 3x PCIe slots, 6 onboard USB's...

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.212185

[member]

where do you have to live to get free shipping?

[evanx]

The ASRock is a much better board than the Foxcon. 16GB instead of 8, 1600 memory instead of 1333, 3x PCIe slots, 6 onboard USB's...

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.212185

+1 ASRock is actually owned by Asus, but focussed on innovative/budget solutions.

[OMV]

This thing is insanely overpowered for the HTPC I'm putting together (an ION would do :P), but this deal is just too good to miss.

I am very concerned about noise/power consumption. How loud is the stock fan on these 125W phenoms? In any case, it's probably too loud as is. Can this CPU be underclocked/undervoltaged to run at ~1ghz max? Can the multiplier be lowered given that this is not a Black Edition? I know it can't be increased. What TDP can realistically be achieved?

Is the stock fan silent at idle load?

By the way, the ASRock A780GMH/128M can run this CPU with the newest BIOS. The more expensive AM3 boards require more expensive DDR3 RAM, which results in a negligible performance improvement.

[MikeMurphy]

This would serve an HTPC very well. These CPUs take very little power to idle and the HTPC loads won't take it too far off idle.

If I didn't just buy a q9550 (at 4ghz) I would have jumped all over this. I <3 AMD.

[Caspar]

This thing is insanely overpowered for the HTPC I'm putting together (an ION would do :P), but this deal is just too good to miss.

I am very concerned about noise/power consumption. How loud is the stock fan on these 125W phenoms? In any case, it's probably too loud as is. Can this CPU be underclocked/undervoltaged to run at ~1ghz max? Can the multiplier be lowered given that this is not a Black Edition? I know it can't be increased. What TDP can realistically be achieved?

Is the stock fan silent at idle load?

By the way, the ASRock A780GMH/128M can run this CPU with the newest BIOS. The more expensive AM3 boards require more expensive DDR3 RAM, which results in a negligible performance improvement.

Locked CPUs will let you lower the multipler but not increase it beyond its cap. Most cheap AMD mobos (mATX) will not let you lower the vcore, only increasing it (don't know why). So you are stuck with a fixed vcore. A lot of the ASUS AM2+/AM3 boards have a problem setting the vcore too high causing high CPU temps.

You can take a look at this for underclocking/undervolting info:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/undervolt-cpu-phenom,2348.html

[Tomy]

i just got the 940 Deneb BE.

i love it!

but watchout for the ram you get.. it's hella unstable, better do ur googling before u buy it :)


i have a stock AMD cpu fan if someone wants..

[gill2k]

I wonder if NCIX will price match that. Gonna try right now. I hope it goes through. :D

[Brewmeanie]

they won't price match combo deals, but they will price match the X4 945 cpu price for $197

[gill2k]

Yeah I just price matched the 945 right now. Getting a different mobo for it.

[hagbard]

they won't price match combo deals, but they will price match the X4 945 cpu price for $197

Is this processor better or worse than this:

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=35467&vpn=HDZ940XCGIBOX&manufacture=AMD&promoid=1190

[gill2k]

^They're both good. It depends on your budget, if you overclock, and how much you upgrade. I went with the 945 being future proof (I hope this one lasts more than my X2 3800+). It's on the new AM3 socket so it supports DDR2 and the new DDR3 memory specs.

940 supports DDR2 only with the AM2+ socket, but is highly overclockable with the unlocked multipliers (since it's the Black Edition).

Honestly, you can't go wrong with either.

[hagbard]

I don't overclock anymore. So which combo would be the best choice with this processor, or should I get the mb elsewhere and go for a ram combo? Trying to upgrade my son's gaming computer.

[MikeMurphy]

I don't overclock anymore. So which combo would be the best choice with this processor, or should I get the mb elsewhere and go for a ram combo? Trying to upgrade my son's gaming computer.

I suggest the first option, with the Foxconn 790gx ddr3 board. The 790gx is a great chipset and the ddr3 is futureproof with a small premium today. If you want to save a buck choose a 790gx chipset with ddr2 and reuse whatever you're running.

[Brewmeanie]

the ASrock 790gx board ain't bad

[vincentfkc]

I suggest the first option, with the Foxconn 790gx ddr3 board. The 790gx is a great chipset and the ddr3 is futureproof with a small premium today. If you want to save a buck choose a 790gx chipset with ddr2 and reuse whatever you're running.

acutally, AMD PII has problem with DDR3 memory controller over 1333Mhz running on 790 ddr3 motherboard
so better to wait for new chipset coming at the end of this year

[chrishin]

found conflicting info on the mobo from foxconn that comes for free. On Foxconn website maximum watt they've tested is 95w.


http://www.foxconnsupport.com/cpusupportlist.aspx?type=mb&socket=Socket%20AM2+/AM2&model=A76ML-K&cputype=AMD

however on AMD site there is a processor they recommend and it's 125w same as 945.

http://products.amd.com/en-na/RecommendedMBDetail.aspx?id=292

so i think this board should be safe for use as long as you don't overclock.

[Brewmeanie]

found conflicting info on the mobo from foxconn that comes for free. On Foxconn website maximum watt they've tested is 95w.


http://www.foxconnsupport.com/cpusupportlist.aspx?type=mb&socket=Socket%20AM2+/AM2&model=A76ML-K&cputype=AMD

however on AMD site there is a processor they recommend and it's 125w same as 945.

http://products.amd.com/en-na/RecommendedMBDetail.aspx?id=292

so i think this board should be safe for use as long as you don't overclock.

or get the board, sell it then get an even better board.

[evanx]

I wonder if NCIX will price match that. Gonna try right now. I hope it goes through. :D

Let us know whether the PM goes through or not.

[hagbard]

Let us know whether the PM goes through or not.

Nothing yet?

[gill2k]

Nothing yet. My order is still stuck at Price Verification. >:(

But I only submitted the order yesterday (had a hard time deciding which parts to get), plus I have other items I wanted to price match. Hopefully, they'll let me know by today.

[philipie]

Just order one come with a pair of ocz ram. Comes in total for 242 including shipping. Thanks OP.:razz::razz:

[yylover]

Thanks OP!

[Coppertone2005]

I'm looking into the cpu & MB combo, which MB would be best to get?

Thanks!

[gill2k]

For those that wanted to know, NCIX approved my price match today for this processor. :D

[Shady_Dealer]

Will a 350W Antec supply be able to handle this CPU?

[kleptodathief]

please NE have a cheap e8400-8600/mobo combo so i can o/c to 4.5ghz!!! :idea::cheesygri

[C0RM3GA]

Ended up going with the MSI 790GX-G65 and AMD Pehnom II X4 945 bundle since the MSI can handle 140w cpu, only problem with mobo is that people have some DOAs and RAID issue which should be fixed in the upcoming bios updates. Plus ordered the OCZ Reaper HPC 4GB (2x2GB) DDR-3 for $80!!! The memory itself is a good deal since they're floating around the $100 range at other places.

If I went with the CPU+MEM combo and bought the MOBO seperately it would cost:

CPU+MEM $221.99
MSI MOBO $144.99
TOTAL: $366.98

But the CPU+MOBO combo and bought ram seperately:

CPU+MOBO $281.99
OCZ MEM $79.99
TOTAL: $361.98

Saving me in total of $5!!! HOLY GUACAMOLE batman the savings just keeps on adding. Somehow my wallet feels lighter :(. Then again I just carry plastic.

THANKS!

[pm_john]

Does anyone know how high you can OC using air cool?

[RedEyeNinja]

For the Foxconn A7GM-S 2.0 AM2+ mobo, can I run a Athlon 64 x2 AM2 cpu on it?

Planning on upgrading the main rig with the 945 and using the combo mobo to stat a HTPC w/ AM2 5200+.

Thanks.

[ASharp]

For the Foxconn A7GM-S 2.0 AM2+ mobo, can I run a Athlon 64 x2 AM2 cpu on it?

I can't say it with 100% certainty since the Foxconn site seems to be borked now so I can't check the CPU support list but, I'm pretty damn sure that it'll work. I haven't seen an AM2+ board yet that doesn't support the older AM2 chips.

[AvalonERX]

If anyone in the Toronto is looking to get the CPU but not interested on the motherboard included in one of the Combos, I would be willing to pay $60 for the ASRock A780GMH motherboard.

That means.. you pay the combo price 228.99 + tax + shipping =~$$275
and once the package arrive, I'll come pickup the motherboard and give you $60.

So you pay $215 (tax and shipping included) on the CPU.
If you just buy the CPU, it's $237 including tax and shipping - so you're saving an extra $22 dollars with out much of a hassle... (I'll pick-up).

I may also be interested in the Foxconn A7GM-S 2.0 if some one has already bought that combo but having second thoughts about that mobo.

PM me.

[Shrike]

Nice find. Amazing Deal. I'm going broke saving money on RFD! :D

[champdood]

For the Foxconn A7GM-S 2.0 AM2+ mobo, can I run a Athlon 64 x2 AM2 cpu on it?

Planning on upgrading the main rig with the 945 and using the combo mobo to stat a HTPC w/ AM2 5200+.

Thanks.
Yup, both versions (there are two) (http://www.foxconnsupport.com/cpusupportlist.aspx?type=mb&model=A76ML-K&cputype=) of the 5200+ are supported by this board.

Does anyone know how high you can OC using air cool?

How long is a piece of string? Depends on how good your air cooling is (a good high end air cooler will cool it better than a stock cooler), how far you're willing to push the voltage upwards (this isn't really good for the CPU over the long term, even if it does run stably to start), the motherboard you have (they differ), the RAM you have, the processor itself, etc. Rule of thumb is to buy a CPU you'll be happy with and an overclock is a bonus.

[zxcjason]

Thanks OP! Got the CPU + OCZ Platinum Memory 4Gb Combo. The memory is also on sale for $76, that's pretty hot too. Ended up getting the CPU + 2 sets of RAM (8Gb) for $343 after tax and shipping.

Link to the RAM:
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227297

[golfcraze]

Just noticed that you can buy this CPU with another mobo. The combo deal is with MSI 770-C45 AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard for $223. Is that a good mobo?? Also noticed that you can get the OCZ Gold 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 for $105. Anybody have opinions on these deals?

[zxcjason]

The RAM is a pretty good deal. But Phenom II only has dual channel, so you are better off with getting one or two 4Gb sets. I don't know anything about the MB though.

[pitabread]

also keep in mind that the 945 isn't the BE therefore it's not as easy to overclock.

[sf1]

looks like combo deals are dead? but the CPU remains 19x.xx

and by the way,
i notice there is also another version of the x4 945 rated at 95W for $199.99, is it a better CPU than the 125W?
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=x4+945

and what speed of RAM should I be looking to buy with this CPU?

sorry for a lot of questions, but I have been using LGA775 for almost 2 years and thinking of an upgrade.

[Brewmeanie]

looks like combo deals are dead? but the CPU remains 19x.xx

and by the way,
i notice there is also another version of the x4 945 rated at 95W for $199.99, is it a better CPU than the 125W?
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=x4+945

and what speed of RAM should I be looking to buy with this CPU?

sorry for a lot of questions, but I have been using LGA775 for almost 2 years and thinking of an upgrade.

yes, it uses lower power consumption, and gives off less heat, 95W is like version 2