Question regarding P.ENG License

[epy]

Hey I got a question regarding getting a p.eng. So, say I graduated with a B.Eng and I do not enter into a engineering job and do something irrelevant.. then after 5 years i wanna get my license... would I be able to get it or would I need to do some additional schooling/tests/etc? Secondly... say I got my license and i stopped working as an engineer for 5 years... then continue again... would I need to undergo additional training/tests/etc??

thanks.

[Churo1]

Well say you graduated in an accredited engineering program...say you worked for four years...and lets just say that is the minimum amount of work experience needed to qualify to write the P.Eng exam...then say you wanted to write the exam...say you register...then lets say you can get an exam prep session if you want...lets say you then write the test and pass...say you're a P.Eng now...yeah...

[PrettyMao]

Actually, you only need a minimum of 2 years experience to write that silly P.Eng exam....

[Churo1]

Actually, you only need a minimum of 2 years experience to write that silly P.Eng exam....

It was changed to 4. Look it up.

[mike24]

http://www.peo.on.ca/registration/RequiredExpForLicensing.pdf

Three years of engineering experience are required if you obtain twelve months of experience during an undergraduate engineering internship placement. Otherwise, you need four years. These guidelines are for engineers practicing in the province of Ontario.


Applicants for a professional engineer licence:

- are required to demonstrate 48 months of verifiable acceptable engineering experience
gained following graduation;
- are eligible to receive credit of up to 12 months of pregraduation experience toward the 48
months of required experience;
- normally receive credit for the successful completion of postgraduate engineering degree(s)
from a PEO-recognized university;
- must acquire at least 12 months of acceptable engineering experience in a Canadian
jurisdiction, under a licensed professional engineer (P.Eng.). This experience must be in addition to
that obtained at the pregraduation stage and/or toward a postgraduate degree.

[epy]

Well say you graduated in an accredited engineering program...say you worked for four years...and lets just say that is the minimum amount of work experience needed to qualify to write the P.Eng exam...then say you wanted to write the exam...say you register...then lets say you can get an exam prep session if you want...lets say you then write the test and pass...say you're a P.Eng now...yeah...

how does that contribute at all to my question?

[epy]

http://www.peo.on.ca/registration/RequiredExpForLicensing.pdf

Three years of engineering experience are required if you obtain twelve months of experience during an undergraduate engineering internship placement. Otherwise, you need four years. These guidelines are for engineers practicing in the province of Ontario.

Yea, but does it matter if I take a couple of years off after i graduate.. or between the EIT years?

[mike24]

Yea, but does it matter if I take a couple of years off after i graduate.. or between the EIT years?

It shouldn't affect your eligibility for licensing unless you obtain some criminal record. But why would you want to take a few years off? You are better working towards your P.Eng while you are young and have the energy. Later on, you will want to settle down.

[Jucius Maximus]

Actually, you only need a minimum of 2 years experience to write that silly P.Eng exam....

You do not need any experience, you can write the exam as soon as you graduate. However you cannot actually get the license until you meet the 4 years of experience approved by the PEO.

[Jucius Maximus]

Hey I got a question regarding getting a p.eng. So, say I graduated with a B.Eng and I do not enter into a engineering job and do something irrelevant.. then after 5 years i wanna get my license... would I be able to get it or would I need to do some additional schooling/tests/etc? Secondly... say I got my license and i stopped working as an engineer for 5 years... then continue again... would I need to undergo additional training/tests/etc??
No problem, but you still have to meet all the experience requirements, pass the exam, etc.

You might not want to apply for the EIT license until you are actually in the engineering field so you won't be paying the yearly dues for nothing, unless you want the car insurance discounts.

Also, the license is not tax deductible unless you are actually using it in the engineering field.

[Jon Lai]

What type of engineer are you? From what my profs told me, PEng license is more or less useless unless you are in Civil or Mech - anything else, companies will still hire you without a PEng.

[Churo1]

What type of engineer are you? From what my profs told me, PEng license is more or less useless unless you are in Civil or Mech - anything else, companies will still hire you without a PEng.

Oh lord. Every generation is getting worse. We are doomed as a society.

[THINKPADT61]

What type of engineer are you? From what my profs told me, PEng license is more or less useless unless you are in Civil or Mech - anything else, companies will still hire you without a PEng.

Many utility company give higher pay if you get a PEng... you will still get higher, but you won't make as much...

[mike24]

What type of engineer are you? From what my profs told me, PEng license is more or less useless unless you are in Civil or Mech - anything else, companies will still hire you without a PEng.

I'm an electrical engineer in training. For chemical, mechanical, electrical, civil, mining, environmental the P.Eng license is important for those who wish to have more responsibly.

For electronics, computer or software engineers the work might not require an engineering license. Programming software or designing low powered circuitry can be performed by computer scientists and software engineers. There are exceptions for example, when designing control systems for aircraft, high powered electronic circuitry or any other task where lots of responsibly is required.

[minib26]

has anybody here gone through the process of getting their p.eng if they don't really need it? maybe just for the prestige of tacking on that p.eng to your name/business card?

i graduated in software engineering and work on web based projects, but not projects dealing with high security or dealing with highly sensitive and private information (all public). so i never really considered even trying for this.. (although i also just figured i wasn't qualified since i'm not in an 'engineering' field per se)

[Jon Lai]

Many utility company give higher pay if you get a PEng... you will still get higher, but you won't make as much...

The only utility company around here is... Ontario Hydro, lol.

My prof just mentioned that for the yearly cost, it might not be worth it for every ECE engineer as much so as for civil and mechs.

[tsefly]

If you are practicing, I would advise that you get your P.Eng.
Means you will take on more responsibility.

More responsibility means more money. And if you ever plan to manage the engineering department, it will be a must.

[PrettyMao]

It was changed to 4. Look it up.

APEGGA still only requires 2 years experience. That's where I get my numbers.

What type of engineer are you? From what my profs told me, PEng license is more or less useless unless you are in Civil or Mech - anything else, companies will still hire you without a PEng.

Maybe because I am a structural engineer, but getting your P.Eng isn't that hard at all if you work in any engineering field. The overall requirements are pretty easy to meet. So why avoid it?

Then again, I don't consider computer engineering real engineering since most of them shirk responsibility and liability for their work.

has anybody here gone through the process of getting their p.eng if they don't really need it? maybe just for the prestige of tacking on that p.eng to your name/business card?

I have my PE (a more difficult process than the P.Eng) and right now it is just a prestige factor. I have no idea if I will ever actually use it. Working on my SE.

[Phlegmbot]

The only utility company around here is... Ontario Hydro, lol.

My prof just mentioned that for the yearly cost, it might not be worth it for every ECE engineer as much so as for civil and mechs.

If your company doesn't pay for your annual dues, then you're working for a crappy company.

[Jon Lai]

Maybe because I am a structural engineer, but getting your P.Eng isn't that hard at all if you work in any engineering field. The overall requirements are pretty easy to meet. So why avoid it?

Then again, I don't consider computer engineering real engineering since most of them shirk responsibility and liability for their work.

But precisely, there isn't much responsibility for ECE engineers, unless you are designing the computer for an airplane. On a general basis, there little to no responsibility that an ECE engineer has to take upon.

[Jon Lai]

If your company doesn't pay for your annual dues, then you're working for a crappy company.

That's assuming everyone that graduates as an engineer actually works as an engineer. A lot of engineering students end up in business or commerce, and not exactly a job where they are involved in actual engineering work. In such cases, your PEng doesn't really do you much favours. Students that choose to get into commerce directly after engineering also will find it difficult to fulfill the "experience" category to get the license.

[mike24]

But precisely, there isn't much responsibility for ECE engineers, unless you are designing the computer for an airplane. On a general basis, there little to no responsibility that an ECE engineer has to take upon.

Electrical engineers working in mining, industrial, manufacturing or civil applications take tremendous responsibly for their work. They may be responsible for providing protection or relaying mechanism to detect and isolate electrical faults. There is also the need to protect electrical devices from failure, provide adequate power supply and ensure proper grounding. An electrical fault or sparking can be catastrophic in underground mining applications where the levels of combustible methane gases are high. Workers are at risk of electrocution if certain electrical devices are not adequately protected from faults.

The general public for example might not be aware that 20V is sufficient to put a human into cardiac arrest or introduce fibrillation. A small voltage has the potential to endanger someones life due to the small resistance of the human body.

Electrical engineers working at RIM designing very low powered circuitry or writing assembly code for blackberries is a different story. But even the circuitry present in cameras can store dangerous levels of electric charge.

[epy]

hey thanks for replies... im a chem btw :D

[insomnioe]

If you're going to be stamping drawings, get it. If not, don't bother. At my company every discipline needs at least one P. Eng. Elec, Controls, Civil, Process, and Mech.

[skeletor]

working in the tech sector with a p.eng seems useless.. you're just paying $300+ /year in license fees for nothing.

[Luckyinfil]

Electrical engineers working in mining, industrial, manufacturing or civil applications take tremendous responsibly for their work. They may be responsible for providing protection or relaying mechanism to detect and isolate electrical faults. There is also the need to protect electrical devices from failure, provide adequate power supply and ensure proper grounding. An electrical fault or sparking can be catastrophic in underground mining applications where the levels of combustible methane gases are high. Workers are at risk of electrocution if certain electrical devices are not adequately protected from faults.

The general public for example might not be aware that 20V is sufficient to put a human into cardiac arrest or introduce fibrillation. A small voltage has the potential to endanger someones life due to the small resistance of the human body.

Electrical engineers working at RIM designing very low powered circuitry or writing assembly code for blackberries is a different story. But even the circuitry present in cameras can store dangerous levels of electric charge.

actually the danger comes from the type of current, not really the voltage. AC current is a lot more lethal

[mike24]

actually the danger comes from the type of current, not really the voltage. AC current is a lot more lethal

Yes, AC current is more deadly compared to DC. Although a voltage is necessary to push current through a resistance. In this case, the body is the resistance and it varies from person to person. Under certain sweaty conditions (through physical labor or the act of love), it is less resistant due to the salt content of the bodily fluids.

DC is more likely to stop the heart from beating while AC current would introduce irregular heart beats or fibrillation. Both are equally deadly situations. Micheal Jackson's heart for example, stopped beating completely and after a few minutes he was brain dead. A heart that fibrillates just flaps around due to the permanent or temporary injury of it's muscles. This is equally deadly, since adequate levels of oxygenated blood are not delivered to the brain.