Toronto's Canada Day celebrations cancelled

[Narci]

This is pretty sad. No Canada celebrations just because unionized workers are on strike.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/toronto/story/2009/06/26/toronto-cancellations.html

It's appears Canada Day is going to be a big fizzle in many parts of Toronto, with festivals, celebrations — even the city-sponsored fireworks display — cancelled.

City officials say they cancelled the festivities because of the continuing strike by municipal workers.

Without the unionized workers the shows can't go on — so the city is pulling the plug on about a dozen planned festivals, a sports tournament and even the traditional Canada Day fireworks display at Ashbridge's Bay.

"I know many Torontonians look forward to our Canada Day celebrations," city manager Joe Pennachetti said at a Thursday afternoon news conference.

"While we remain hopeful there will be a timely resolution to the strike, July 1 is fast approaching. Please be reminded that the city-run Canada Day events … and those that have permits to take place on city property, are cancelled."

The Ashbridge's Bay fireworks display has been held for decades and brings thousands of people to Toronto's east-end beaches for the show.


Cancelled Events

Amesbury Canada Day, Amesbury Park
Ashbridge's Bay Fireworks
Canada Day Event, Earlscourt Park
Somali-Canada Day, Earl Bales Park
Ontario Australian Football Championships, Colonel Samuel Smith Park
Peanut Town Festival, Oriole Park - North
East York Toronto Canada Day, Stan Wadlow Park
MPP Canada Day Event - Don Valley West MPP, Flemingdon Park
Shomoy Mela, Detonia Park
Canada Day Celebrations, Thompson Memorial Park/ Miliken District Park
Canada Day Celebration, St. James Park
New Country Canada Day Jam, Woodbine Park
16th Annual Neighbours Together, Riverdale Park East
Canada Day Festival, Kew Gardens
Canada Day, Mel Lastman Square

[mself084]

torontonians should head up the 401/416 to Ottawa... pretty sweet fireworks display (even though its supposed to rain??).

[krozet]

torontonians should head up the 401/416 to Ottawa... pretty sweet fireworks display (even though its supposed to rain??).

That's where I go every year. The entire downtown core is closed to cars/trucks, the National Art Gallery is free for the day, there is so much to see and do.

Shame on the Union! How do they expect to have public support after this asshat move?

[Winkle]

Plenty of public celebrations and events going on all over the regions of Peel, Durham and York... take your pick :)

[thelefteyeguy]

...wow perhaps Miller planned this all along to cut municipal spending :twisted:

[Winkle]

...wow perhaps Miller planned this all along to cut municipal spending :twisted:

Yea... yet the taxpayers are still paying for it.

[thelefteyeguy]

Yea... yet the taxpayers are still paying for it.

can we save the fireworks on the day a new mayor is elected? :twisted:

[CSAgent]

Meh, I hate going to Ashbridges Bay on any major holiday - too many cars and drivers who don't know how to drive, clogging up the roads and entrances/exits. No parking either. There's something wrong with city planning when you have to park 2km away or you have to park on the grass field because there aren't enough parking in the designated lots.

Doesn't affect me as the gf and I booked a 3 hours harbor cruise using a two for one coupon (:lol::lol::lol:), complete with AYCE buffet on board - then the ship will dock by Ontario Place at 10, where their fireworks show is still on! :cheesygri

[Cr0at1a]

This is the way it works.

Union goes on strike and demands $100 million in benefits.

City lets union go on strike until they save $100 million in wage. Then the city agrees to 90% of union demands.

Union has to pay the strike pay and so union loses money as well.

If the strike is on for two weeks - how long do you think it will take someone to recover their lost wages?


I can't beleive the union is so stupid during this time of economic crisis. Like we all want to pay more taxes to pay those overpaid city workers who do SFA.

[twotterdhc6]

Apparently Miller's quite the strategist: saving money while turning public opinion towards CUPE even more.

[Cr0at1a]

My opinion is not Pro-CUPE

CUPE is the group that is screwing everything up
CUPE wants to take more money out of my wallet

Good that the city is letting them go on strike

I wish I knew where some CUPE goofs live so I could throw my garbage on their front lawn

[rfdrfd]

I always thought fireworks were a waste of money.

Let the corporations that are profitable fire thousands of dollars a pop into the sky that lasts for 5 seconds.


Go celebrate Canada day by making Canada a better place. Go volunteer, make a grandma/pa happy, help out a neighbour, heck, go out with a garbage bag and pick up some litter and make your neighbourhood a better place.

[Winkle]

can we save the fireworks on the day a new mayor is elected? :twisted:

You'll have to wait over a year to do that... but you can use the fireworks and aim them at the picket lines now :twisted:

[krozet]

My opinion is not Pro-CUPE

CUPE is the group that is screwing everything up
CUPE wants to take more money out of my wallet

Good that the city is letting them go on strike

I wish I knew where some CUPE goofs live so I could throw my garbage on their front lawn

Well then you would be hit with that new money grab... opps i mean dumping fine.

[Dash]

sad times. I was going to hit up ashbridges bay again this year.

EDIT: I find it funny that someone from Vancouver posted this up, considering it doesn't affect them at all. :D

[at1212b]

I don't need the City for me to have a good ol time.

Happy Canada Day!!

[custy]

Too bad. Move on.

[blainehamilton]

That's pretty sad. Another reason to abolish unions.

[Narci]

sad times. I was going to hit up ashbridges bay again this year.

EDIT: I find it funny that someone from Vancouver posted this up, considering it doesn't affect them at all. :D

It does affect me. I'll be in TO all next week and was looking forward to some Canada Events with some friends in TO. I use to live in TO for 28 years and only moved to van 2.5 years ago..I miss TO very much.

[shannn]

Meh, I hate going to Ashbridges Bay on any major holiday - too many cars and drivers who don't know how to drive, clogging up the roads and entrances/exits. No parking either. There's something wrong with city planning when you have to park 2km away or you have to park on the grass field because there aren't enough parking in the designated lots.

Doesn't affect me as the gf and I booked a 3 hours harbor cruise using a two for one coupon (:lol::lol::lol:), complete with AYCE buffet on board - then the ship will dock by Ontario Place at 10, where their fireworks show is still on! :cheesygri

Nice, which cruise?
And what coupon? :cheesygri

My gf wants me to plan something romantic in the near future (but not Canada day, just some random weekend). Care to share? :cheesygri

[shannn]

It does affect me. I'll be in TO all next week and was looking forward to some Canada Events with some friends in TO. I use to live in TO for 28 years and only moved to van 2.5 years ago..I miss TO very much.

Ahh, it's too bad you are coming during such a bad time

[cmge]

you can use the fireworks and aim them at the picket lines now :twisted:
:lol:... goood idea!

[AcidBomber]

I bet Wonderland will be packed for sure on Canada Day... :|

[help_questions]

can we save the fireworks on the day a new mayor is elected? :twisted:

no. we save the fireworks for the days unions are abolished and disbanded.

If that fails, shoot the fireworks at the strikers who ruined Canada Day 2009.

[krozet]

I bet Wonderland will be packed for sure on Canada Day... :|

School just got out, when will it NOT be packed between now and September? Didn't they set an attendance record last year?

[Angela V]

Ontario Place has it's Festival of Fire on July 1st.

Mississauga got fireworks for the Canada Day celebrations last year at the City Centre where Square 1 is. There are fireworks again this year. During the day many free activities for the family (starting at 1pm)and late afternoon the stage has some musical performers (also free). This year it's Kressha Turner and Sloan. Mike Bullard is hosting the evening stage stuff though last year he complained he was expected to tell jokes as the bands changed out. My husband was head of that last year and the bands needed a 20 minute change out. My husband had to deal with a very annoyed Bullard while he tried to explain that the bands use their own equipment and it takes time to switch those over. He's not working on that this year so he'll be happy that Bullard will be someone else's headache :)

And apparently there is free transit for Mississauga across the city (2 other spots in Mississauga do big celebrations but I think the City Centre only does the fireworks now)

And none of our workers are looking to strike right now :)

[gmark2000]

Canada Day celebrations are still on at Downsview Park. That's because it's a federally-owned operated crown corporation that organizes the event.

http://pdp.ca/en/events/canadaday2009.cfm

[time space]

you can use the fireworks and aim them at the picket lines now :twisted:

:lol:... goood idea!
Advocating violence using explosives against Canadian citizens engaged in a legal strike, is not just illegal, it is a form of terrorism.

[M-e-X-x]

It does affect me. I'll be in TO all next week and was looking forward to some Canada Events with some friends in TO. I use to live in TO for 28 years and only moved to van 2.5 years ago..I miss TO very much.

For work?

[mrfascination]

The city canceled Canada Day celebrations because of the strike, why
did they not cancel the Gay Pride Parade ?

Both on city property, both need city clean up... Hm...

[time space]

you can use the fireworks and aim them at the picket lines now :twisted:

:lol:... goood idea!

If that fails, shoot the fireworks at the strikers who ruined Canada Day 2009.
Advocating violence using explosives against Canadian citizens engaged in a legal strike, is not just illegal, it is a form of terrorism.

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It's interesting that posts that not only "hurl hate filled messages at groups of people", but actually counsel the use of violence against groups of law-abiding Canadian citizens are considered acceptable here at RFD.

[0002]

The city canceled Canada Day celebrations because of the strike, why
did they not cancel the Gay Pride Parade ?

Both on city property, both need city clean up... Hm...

Hm....good point there. Maybe the gay parade has a lot of corporate sponsors? I dunno..

[Shimso]

Hm....good point there. Maybe the gay parade has a lot of corporate sponsors? I dunno..

I remember hearing that they needed ~$20,000 for the parade; I'm guessing a sponsor covered that amount.

[YYZFA]

The city canceled Canada Day celebrations because of the strike, why
did they not cancel the Gay Pride Parade ?

Both on city property, both need city clean up... Hm...

Because the people running the Pride Parade have hired a private company to do the clean up so the parade can go on... Hm...

[Invasionmix]

And apparently there is free transit for Mississauga across the city (2 other spots in Mississauga do big celebrations but I think the City Centre only does the fireworks now)



Streetsville Memorial Park (www.villageofstreetsville.com) and Port Credit (www.paintthetownred.ca) both do fireworks, so if you don't want to be by a packed Square One City Center those two spots both do fireworks. The show at Port Credit was pretty good last year.

[mrfascination]

Because the people running the Pride Parade have hired a private company to do the clean up so the parade can go on... Hm...

If thats the case - My buddy and his community have a huge picnic
at Woodbine park (city run)... They fly in singers/bands from their
home country.. This past Friday they were notified by the city that
they had to cancel their even on Saturday... They were told
due to the city strike.. In turn my buddy and his community offered
to do their own clean up etc.. The city said it didn't matter.
My buddy lost a ton of $$$.. From having the acts flown here, the
eqipument rentals, food, etc, etc, etc...

The city didn't care!... The city WOULD care if certain special interest
groups (WHO DEMAND EQUAL TREATMENT) would have their event
canceled..

[chinese zzz]

How could this happen.. :confused: I mean the Queen ... so disrespectful:cheesygri cancel Canada day.. unbelievable..

[MasterXan]

Apparently these do not qualify as "group attacks" as specified under RFD's Bans for Personal/Group Attacks -NO WARNING- (http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=170465) thread which states:



It's interesting that posts that not only "hurl hate filled messages at groups of people", but actually counsel the use of violence against groups of law-abiding Canadian citizens are considered acceptable here at RFD.

please tell me you are not working for our enemies.

[Kasakato]

Apparently these do not qualify as "group attacks" as specified under RFD's Bans for Personal/Group Attacks -NO WARNING- (http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=170465) thread which states:



It's interesting that posts that not only "hurl hate filled messages at groups of people", but actually counsel the use of violence against groups of law-abiding Canadian citizens are considered acceptable here at RFD.

That is absolutely unreasonable. It is clear that the public does not care for the CUPE workers' strike. They are inconvenienced with no garbage pick up, having the beach turned into a dump, etc. As such, any jokes or otherwise humorous statements, made against CUPE works, is to be viewed as a comical statement. Unless you are insisting our average RFD members are willing to launch fireworks at others; their statements are hardly hateful.

[help_questions]

That is absolutely unreasonable. It is clear that the public does not care for the CUPE workers' strike. They are inconvenienced with no garbage pick up, having the beach turned into a dump, etc. As such, any jokes or otherwise humorous statements, made against CUPE works, is to be viewed as a comical statement. Unless you are insisting our average RFD members are willing to launch fireworks at others; their statements are hardly hateful.

exactly. CUPE has ruined Canada celebrations. The public does not support CUPE's demands, and does not support paying tax dollars so a garbage man can get 18 sick days.

[help_questions]

If thats the case - My buddy and his community have a huge picnic
at Woodbine park (city run)... They fly in singers/bands from their
home country.. This past Friday they were notified by the city that
they had to cancel their even on Saturday... They were told
due to the city strike.. In turn my buddy and his community offered
to do their own clean up etc.. The city said it didn't matter.
My buddy lost a ton of $$$.. From having the acts flown here, the
eqipument rentals, food, etc, etc, etc...

The city didn't care!... The city WOULD care if certain special interest
groups (WHO DEMAND EQUAL TREATMENT) would have their event
canceled..

I hope your buddy blames CUPE for this. That entire community should collectively be working against CUPE; they destroyed your event and it is all because of CUPE greedy demands.

[Dina_E]

If thats the case - My buddy and his community have a huge picnic
at Woodbine park (city run)... They fly in singers/bands from their
home country.. This past Friday they were notified by the city that
they had to cancel their even on Saturday... They were told
due to the city strike.. In turn my buddy and his community offered
to do their own clean up etc.. The city said it didn't matter.
My buddy lost a ton of $$$.. From having the acts flown here, the
eqipument rentals, food, etc, etc, etc...

The city didn't care!... The city WOULD care if certain special interest
groups (WHO DEMAND EQUAL TREATMENT) would have their event
canceled..
so CUPE is anti-gay as well?

[twotterdhc6]

Streetsville Memorial Park (www.villageofstreetsville.com) and Port Credit (www.paintthetownred.ca) both do fireworks, so if you don't want to be by a packed Square One City Center those two spots both do fireworks. The show at Port Credit was pretty good last year.

Port Credit is always quite good, but I'll be at Square One this year to see Sloan play on the mainstage :D

[WontonTiger]

Apparently these do not qualify as "group attacks" as specified under RFD's Bans for Personal/Group Attacks -NO WARNING- (http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=170465) thread which states:



It's interesting that posts that not only "hurl hate filled messages at groups of people", but actually counsel the use of violence against groups of law-abiding Canadian citizens are considered acceptable here at RFD.

You're a drama queen. He was making a joke, and you are being sensitive. Man up!

Because the people running the Pride Parade have hired a private company to do the clean up so the parade can go on... Hm...

You mean, the CITY hired private collectors. They just refuse to do it in the case on Canada day. It's all politics. Miller panders to the unions, while telling middle class suburban families to shove it where the sun doesn't shine.

so CUPE is anti-gay as well?
One would think that based on their actions...

Cupe is anti-anything but CUPE.

[Winkle]

You mean, the CITY hired private collectors. They just refuse to do it in the case on Canada day. It's all politics. Miller panders to the unions, while telling middle class suburban families to shove it where the sun doesn't shine.


To be fair, Pride was planned well in advance before the strike occurred and the strike started as the same time as Pride and since they and the union haven't stopped talking they couldn't really cancel the Pride week events, not with a 6 hour or so notice that's for sure.

[Beeg]

can we save the fireworks on the day a new mayor is elected? :twisted:

Seconded.

[Stock R]

Glad I'll be in Ottawa :)

[WontonTiger]

To be fair, Pride was planned well in advance before the strike occurred and the strike started as the same time as Pride and since they and the union haven't stopped talking they couldn't really cancel the Pride week events, not with a 6 hour or so notice that's for sure.

All these events are planned well in advance...

Last time I checked, July 1st is always Canada day. I would think they had a plan in place a long while ago.

[CSAgent]

All these events are planned well in advance...

Last time I checked, July 1st is always Canada day. I would think they had a plan in place a long while ago.

+1

And without a Canada Day, these striking idiots would not have a country in which to be granted democratic freedoms in which to exploit and plunder in the first place!

It may not be the best system, but its the only one we got..

[Shinyuki]

So the only 3 places in Toronto for fireworks are Ontario Place, Downsview Park, and Canada's Wonderland?

[thelefteyeguy]

no way they cancel the Pride parade...it's huge for the politicians

They get an important 15 seconds on TV promoting rights....but really it's about buying votes.

i was disappointed that no one threw a dildo at Miller on TV yesterday...what a joke he is.

[thelefteyeguy]

So the only 3 places in Toronto for fireworks are Ontario Place, Downsview Park, and Canada's Wonderland?

if you can...Markham area has a lot of good displays also...

[teknoluv]

People who compare the Pride Week to Canada Day simply don't get it that the former is a TOURIST (a.k.a. $$$$$$$) event. Yes, it's all about money, so don't take it too personal, political or pilosohical.

[Cheap Cat]

The city canceled these events not the union so put the blame where it belongs. The union is just trying to get what the city gave to all of its other unions and council gave to themselves. If it goes to arbitration, the union will win based on what the city did with their other unions. The workers are losing money, and residents are being inconvenienced. The only one benefiting is the city which is saving money by not paying wages. So if you want to blame anyone, blame the city for this unnecessary strike.

[andrew2good4u]

wow that sucks. So much planning gone to waste

[shannn]

The city canceled these events not the union so put the blame where it belongs. The union is just trying to get what the city gave to all of its other unions and council gave to themselves. If it goes to arbitration, the union will win based on what the city did with their other unions. The workers are losing money, and residents are being inconvenienced. The only one benefiting is the city which is saving money by not paying wages. So if you want to blame anyone, blame the city for this unnecessary strike.

+1
I'm not usually pro-union, but I agree. Toronto did a terrible job on this one

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Has anyone seen people throwing garbage out of their car windows? I almost got struck by a huge bag of garbage from this car driving from Scarborough to Markham :mad: Luckily I avoided it, but the car behind me smashed into it and garbage flew everywhere! :-0

[flexwong]

The city canceled these events not the union so put the blame where it belongs. The union is just trying to get what the city gave to all of its other unions and council gave to themselves. If it goes to arbitration, the union will win based on what the city did with their other unions. The workers are losing money, and residents are being inconvenienced. The only one benefiting is the city which is saving money by not paying wages. So if you want to blame anyone, blame the city for this unnecessary strike.

so just b/c city councillors got a raise the unions deserve one too? ha. i love it when CUPE tries to pull this as an excuse for striking. if you don't like the fact that the councillors got a raise, then don't vote for them next time.

it's the city's fault for not outsourcing garbage collection in the first place.

[jl319]

+1
I'm not usually pro-union, but I agree. Toronto did a terrible job on this one

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Has anyone seen people throwing garbage out of their car windows? I almost got struck by a huge bag of garbage from this car driving from Scarborough to Markham :mad: Luckily I avoided it, but the car behind me smashed into it and garbage flew everywhere! :-0

:lol::twisted::lol::cheesygri:D

[NG]

So many people with a hate on for Miller and TO's city gov't. Thing is though some people have been complaining for years about him and he keeps getting back in.

Ever wonder why you're even living in Toronto if you dislike the gov't and the people who vote it in again and again (aka your neighbours and co-workers)?

[NG]

That's pretty sad. Another reason to abolish unions.

I'm sure that'd go over great in Alberta; Canada...not so much.

[MasterXan]

So many people with a hate on for Miller and TO's city gov't. Thing is though some people have been complaining for years about him and he keeps getting back in.

Ever wonder why you're even living in Toronto if you dislike the gov't and the people who vote it in again and again (aka your neighbours and co-workers)?

can't really blame them. i mean...people are so brainwashed by our schools and the mainstream media (ie. Communist Broadcasting Channel)

it's the view taught in schools and the mainstream media that being fiscally conservative is bad and people who work in the private sector should bendover for public sector employees because that somehow preserves the middle class.

[NG]

can't really blame them. i mean...people are so brainwashed by our schools and the mainstream media (ie. Communist Broadcasting Channel)

it's the view taught in schools and the mainstream media that being fiscally conservative is bad and people who work in the private sector should bendover for public sector employees because that somehow preserves the middle class.

There's the fascist Canwest Global in Toronto as well as the CBC in Alberta (and they're not exactly communist) so your argument doesn't hold water.

Fact is Toronto is never going to be what a lot of people in this thread wishes it'd become; just the opposite in fact so why stay?

[Firebot]

So many people with a hate on for Miller and TO's city gov't. Thing is though some people have been complaining for years about him and he keeps getting back in.

Ever wonder why you're even living in Toronto if you dislike the gov't and the people who vote it in again and again (aka your neighbours and co-workers)?

I moved out to Harper land, couldn't be happier. Toronto deserves what it is getting for letting socialists run the show. Miller's Toronto is a beautiful thing:D.

[NG]

I moved out to Harper land, couldn't be happier. Toronto deserves what it is getting for letting socialists run the show. Miller's Toronto is a beautiful thing:D.

Beautiful post man. Just think of how much better it'd be if Alberta didn't have to deal with the feds.

By chance have you checked out the Albertan separatist movement and, if so, have any ideas on how to advance it?

[Angela V]

Streetsville Memorial Park (www.villageofstreetsville.com) and Port Credit (www.paintthetownred.ca) both do fireworks, so if you don't want to be by a packed Square One City Center those two spots both do fireworks. The show at Port Credit was pretty good last year.

I got the fireworks mixed up with the CAKE! There's some big cake that the Mayor Hazel cuts and people can line up for it and it's free.

The parkings not that bad at Square One. It's all free. but yeah it gets packed at the stage with the evening concert. I thought my husband said he wasn't working the stage this year but he actually is. He lost his voice two Sundays ago and is using some inhaler with medication. If he doesn't get his voice back by Canada's Day he's going to have a very interesting day.

[xstatik]

How is it that the Gays still get their parade and celebrations while the party and celebrations to celebrate our Nations BIRTHDAY! is cancelled!!!!
Talk about a double standard!!!

No wonder Canada has no identity and national pride, Canada is too busy promoting Gay Pride instead!

[CSAgent]

How is it that the Gays still get their parade and celebrations while the party and celebrations to celebrate our Nations BIRTHDAY! is cancelled!!!!
Talk about a double standard!!!

No wonder Canada has no identity and national pride, Canada is too busy promoting Gay Pride instead!

Its because the GPride parade was privately funded.

[xstatik]

Its because the GPride parade was privately funded.

What about all the garbage left behind?!?!?
Why can't they hire replacement workers to run the Canada Day celebrations!!

[Invasionmix]

What about all the garbage left behind?!?!?
Why can't they hire replacement workers to run the Canada Day celebrations!!

They hired a private company to clean up the garbage. Also the Pride party brings in about 80 million dollars into the economy. Canada Day festivals cost the city money to clean up, fire works, police security, etc.

[CSAgent]

What about all the garbage left behind?!?!?
Why can't they hire replacement workers to run the Canada Day celebrations!!

GPride hired a private company to clean stuff up.

You need to read the news.

[Winkle]

How is it that the Gays still get their parade and celebrations while the party and celebrations to celebrate our Nations BIRTHDAY! is cancelled!!!!
Talk about a double standard!!!

No wonder Canada has no identity and national pride, Canada is too busy promoting Gay Pride instead!

Pride week started at the same time as the strike, the City was hoping to work something out with the unions and would have been imprudent for them to cancel Pride week before a strike started, but by the time the strike started it was also too late to cancel Pride week... so they had to let it run.

[xstatik]

GPride hired a private company to clean stuff up.

You need to read the news.

And you need to read between the lines..

It's because the Gay community has more political influence!!!
Either cancel all city events or allow all of them..

This picking and choosing of events is outright offensive!

Unless you are Gay, you are out of luck in this city! (No Canada Day party, no wedding pictures in parks, parks and rec permits cancelled, day cares closed, no garbage collection etc..)

[Broseph]

So they throw a gay parade and that trumps Canada Day parade?

This country is shameful.

[Winkle]

And you need to read between the lines..

It's because the Gay community has more political influence!!!
Either cancel all city events or allow all of them..

This picking and choosing of events is outright offensive!

Unless you are Gay, you are out of luck in this city! (No Canada Day party, no wedding pictures in parks, parks and rec permits cancelled, day cares closed, no garbage collection etc..)

How do you cancel something that has already started and brings in millions of dollars of revenue in tourism for the city?

[NG]

[QUOTE=xstatik;8993101]
It's because the Gay community has more political influence!!!

So what if they do?

Unless you are Gay, you are out of luck in this city!

No true. Heterosexuals were completely welcome to enjoy pride week events.

[NG]

So they throw a gay parade and that trumps Canada Day parade?

This country is shameful.

When it comes to issues like this I think it's great.

[Kasakato]

What about all the garbage left behind?!?!?
Why can't they hire replacement workers to run the Canada Day celebrations!!

And you need to read between the lines..

It's because the Gay community has more political influence!!!
Either cancel all city events or allow all of them..

This picking and choosing of events is outright offensive!

Unless you are Gay, you are out of luck in this city! (No Canada Day party, no wedding pictures in parks, parks and rec permits cancelled, day cares closed, no garbage collection etc..)
How do you go from Mr. Uninformed; or Mr. Political Expert in a matter of minutes?

[WontonTiger]

The city canceled these events not the union so put the blame where it belongs. The union is just trying to get what the city gave to all of its other unions and council gave to themselves. If it goes to arbitration, the union will win based on what the city did with their other unions. The workers are losing money, and residents are being inconvenienced. The only one benefiting is the city which is saving money by not paying wages. So if you want to blame anyone, blame the city for this unnecessary strike.

I don't think anyone claimed that the unions canceled the Canada Day events, however trying to say they didn't CAUSE the cancellation is ignorant. If there was no strike, there would be no cancellation.

Once the strike is resolved, workers are brought back for overtime. Once cleanup is complete, the city has lost more money than they would have (without a strike), and CUPE workers make more money due to overtime they collect. I blame the unions, not the city.

When it comes to issues like this I think it's great.

Based on your quotes (antagonistic, confrontational, lacking substance) I'd think you're trolling this thread.

If you had it your way, many businesses would be moving along with the people (read wealthy people) who left as well. Toronto is fading away, and soon enough the money for all these public sector jobs won't be around. Unless something changes, I see bad things for business in Toronto.

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Wow!! I sure hope you don't call yourself a Canadian!!
How can a Gay Parade be better than a CANADA DAY CELEBRATION, to celebrate our country!!!

look at it this way...the Gay Parade is an international event that brings in tourists and foreigners. Canada Day on the other hand, will go on in other cities, where greedy selfish unions have not ruined the festivities.

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If you had it your way, many businesses would be moving along with the people (read wealthy people) who left as well. Toronto is fading away, and soon enough the money for all these public sector jobs won't be around. Unless something changes, I see bad things for business in Toronto.

Good observation. I think I will try harder to do more of my spending in the 905. I see no reason to support the 416 when they piss their tax dollars away on 18 bankable sick days for unskilled workers.

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Based on your quotes (antagonistic, confrontational, lacking substance) I'd think you're trolling this thread.


No. I think you're mistaking that for a complete and total distain to the hatred of unionism and the gay pride parade in this thread.

As far as antagonistic, confrontational, lacking substance - have you read most of the other replies in this thread?


If you had it your way, many businesses would be moving along with the people (read wealthy people) who left as well. Toronto is fading away, and soon enough the money for all these public sector jobs won't be around. Unless something changes, I see bad things for business in Toronto.

When did I say that? And where's your stats that prove Toronto is "Fading away". Last I checked it's still the top city in Canada and just because it's citizens elected a pro-union, pro-gay mayor that hasn't changed.

There are plenty of businesses in Europe and a European city is what I'm contending Miller is turning Toronto into.

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No. I think you're mistaking that for a complete and total distain to the hatred of unionism and the gay pride parade in this thread.

As far as antagonistic, confrontational, lacking substance - have you read most of the other replies in this thread?



When did I say that? And where's your stats that prove Toronto is "Fading away". Last I checked it's still the top city in Canada and just because it's citizens elected a pro-union, pro-gay mayor that hasn't changed.

There are plenty of businesses in Europe and a European city is what I'm contending Miller is turning Toronto into.

Naples, a great European city (http://www.newsweek.com/id/93300)

Maybe Miller shouldn't use Naples as the model to build on? (http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_35695.aspx)