Picket Line Question - Waste Transfer Station Blockade

[flimbs]

Curious question: These picketers forming a blockade at the waste transfer stations. Are they legally allowed to prevent you from going inside to use these services (that you regularly pay for)?

I mean, if you simply beeline for the entrance, are they legally allowed to step in front of you, or forcibly block you off? (all this being on public property) The police are really useless in this matter, as they are partially part of the union, them being a union themselves.

They're only allowing one person in every 15 minutes, hand-carrying their garbage. But what makes them the legal authority on what you can or cannot do in a democratic society?

[pupazzo]

You can try to force your way through but prepare for an old school beat down lol

[blainehamilton]

Another reason unions should be abolished.

Thank god we don't have this garbage (zing) here in Western Canada. You guys in Ontario are really overrun with (dis)organized labor...

And if you try to force your way thru they can't even touch you. Just have your garbage in one hand and a cell phone recording video in the other. If they touch you, you have the right to press charges on them.

[mike24]

Yea, these blockades are pointless. Older people are struggling to dump their garbage and others have medical conditions that may prevent them from doing so. It's also hot and humid so this has a negative effect on the respiratory system of seniors and others with health problems.

I'm not sure if it's illegal, but it may be unethical.

[ever1221]

man if I were you guys I'd take like 10 people and wait outside till 5pm when they go home, and just follow them (to know where they live)

then post their addresses here, and I'd be first one to drive from hamilton to dump my garbage on their front yard...

[flimbs]

And if you try to force your way thru they can't even touch you. Just have your garbage in one hand and a cell phone recording video in the other. If they touch you, you have the right to press charges on them.
If that were true, I'm surprised that more people haven't tried that tactic yet. Good idea on the video camera.

I just don't see how they should be "allowed" (by the police, authorities) to let people inside according to their schedule. They don't own the waste transfer station!!!!!!!!!!!!

[at1212b]

Somebody should bring a nice big bag of manure right to the picket line, with a couple of holes plucked into it... that should be fun!!

[krozet]

Somebody should bring a nice big bag of manure right to the picket line, with a couple of holes plucked into it... that should be fun!!

Liquid manure in a bucket!

[5dark]

man if I were you guys I'd take like 10 people and wait outside till 5pm when they go home, and just follow them (to know where they live)

then post their addresses here, and I'd be first one to drive from hamilton to dump my garbage on their front yard...

The CUPE local 416: 110 Laird Drive.

[xstatik]

The CUPE local 416: 110 Laird Drive.

We should have a mass RFD Dump Your Garbage Meet at CUPE's Offices!!

[xstatik]

man if I were you guys I'd take like 10 people and wait outside till 5pm when they go home, and just follow them (to know where they live)

then post their addresses here, and I'd be first one to drive from hamilton to dump my garbage on their front yard...

Also, for good measure.. Call Comrade Miller's "Snitch Line" on them (416) 338-0338 ... May as well give the strikers a bit of a hassle with a $340 fine!
http://www.insidetoronto.ca/article/71409

[ever1221]

man if I was in Toronto I would've organized a nice RFD gathering where we all collect our garbage, rent a UHAUL, and dump all the garbage in the entrance so that when strike ends they will pick it all up...

but seriously someone from toronto should start this guys you have to start doing something to stop this...Toronto's image is ruined for god sakes.

[solarflare600]

its all talk here. everyone keeps on saying "someone should do something".

[15-20_God]

but seriously someone from toronto should start this guys you have to start doing something to stop this...Toronto's image is ruined for god sakes.

toronto (rfd especially) is just a community of whiners. We're in day 2 of a garbage strike and what, garbage normally gets picked up once every 7 days? Lets try not to overreact too much yet.

[ever1221]

I'm from Hamilton, If I lived in Toronto, i would've started a thread right now asking everyone to bring their garbage say Friday and meet somewhere close to union, and everyone to pay say $10 this way we can rent a truck, collect all the garbage ask those workers to let us in if not we all dump it in the entrance, if they call police, then we will tell them they didnt alow us in...and if the police thing is an issue, I'd call police right now and tell them about this and see what they say, if they say there will be no charges on us for dumping it at entrance, then we'll go ahead with it.

[Digital_Domain]

man if I were you guys I'd take like 10 people and wait outside till 5pm when they go home, and just follow them (to know where they live)
Except they don't go home at 5pm. I've driven past our transfer station at 9pm and they're still out there.
toronto (rfd especially) is just a community of whiners. We're in day 2 of a garbage strike and what, garbage normally gets picked up once every 7 days? Lets try not to overreact too much yet.
The only problem is that it depends on your pickup days. Our garbage pickup day was Monday so we've already had 2 weeks of garbage sitting in our garage and needless to say in this heat it's been cooking nicely.

If they allowed people to drop off their garbage without harassment then that's fine, but this whole only letting people in every 15 minutes and forcing them to walk is just stupid. Might have to go on Friday to dump the garbage and I'm already dreading it.

[GangStarr]

toronto (rfd especially) is just a community of whiners. We're in day 2 of a garbage strike and what, garbage normally gets picked up once every 7 days? Lets try not to overreact too much yet.

+1

Also, I am pretty sure racoons arn't on strike. They love garbage. Thats what I am planning on doing.

Please see file photo.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2398/1510832454_0c4d8e51f3.jpg?v=0

[jstaneon]

why not drive an extra 10 mins to etobicoke if you're worried about waiting? I walked right through the picket line. No one even thought about touching me.

http://maps.google.ca/maps?client=firefox-a&channel=s&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=etobicoke+garbage+drop+off&fb=1&split=1&gl=ca&cid=13563956633201219116&li=lmd

[slowtyper]

why not drive an extra 10 mins to etobicoke if you're worried about waiting? I walked right through the picket line. No one even thought about touching me.

http://maps.google.ca/maps?client=firefox-a&channel=s&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=etobicoke+garbage+drop+off&fb=1&split=1&gl=ca&cid=13563956633201219116&li=lmd

Are you supposed to be able to drive in, if it weren't for the picketers?

[rfdrfd]

Curious question: These picketers forming a blockade at the waste transfer stations. Are they legally allowed to prevent you from going inside to use these services (that you regularly pay for)?

I mean, if you simply beeline for the entrance, are they legally allowed to step in front of you, or forcibly block you off? (all this being on public property) The police are really useless in this matter, as they are partially part of the union, them being a union themselves.

They're only allowing one person in every 15 minutes, hand-carrying their garbage. But what makes them the legal authority on what you can or cannot do in a democratic society?


On the radio 2 days ago, they invited a lawyer to talk specifically about this. Here's what he said:


The ppl on the picketline are legally allowed to "stop" you by talking to you. They are supposed to spend time to tell you their side of the story. Why they are picketing, etc....

They can spend as much time as they want, but their topic of conversation must be about this situation, their strike, their position, etc. They cannot repeat this speech over and over and over just to delay you.

After they run out of words to tell, they legally must move away and let you do whatever you were going to do. If not, they are now in violation. Hence, you can call the Police and Police will make them move away from you.

However, lawyer says, of course, no one is going to call the police on such matters, there will simply be too many occurances and there isn't enough Police for things like this.

The City is always supposed to provide mediators or someone that controls this situation. So the public are not held illegally. But, they don't provide such ppl, and don't want to aggrevate the striking ppl too much = violence may happen.


So, if the stikers are just walking around blocking your car and NOT talking to you and describing their story, then yes, they are illegally blocking you.

But again, there is no enforcement of this, so a lot of them will just not talk to you and some have said "okay, wait 2 minutes here and then we'll move". Kinda like my speech would have taken 2 minutes, so ....

[Krakilin0405]

Curious question: These picketers forming a blockade at the waste transfer stations. Are they legally allowed to prevent you from going inside to use these services (that you regularly pay for)?

I mean, if you simply beeline for the entrance, are they legally allowed to step in front of you, or forcibly block you off? (all this being on public property) The police are really useless in this matter, as they are partially part of the union, them being a union themselves.

They're only allowing one person in every 15 minutes, hand-carrying their garbage. But what makes them the legal authority on what you can or cannot do in a democratic society?

Yes they can, there are police officers now situated at the waste transfer stations, but they're only there to monitor the situation, not to move ticketers out of the way. Do what a guy did yesturday, just slowly move your car and run them over if they get in the way (slowly), the guy who got ran over yesturday went to the hospital, but with no serious injury.


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[leolee_ca]

On the radio 2 days ago, they invited a lawyer to talk specifically about this. Here's what he said:


The ppl on the picketline are legally allowed to "stop" you by talking to you. They are supposed to spend time to tell you their side of the story. Why they are picketing, etc....

They can spend as much time as they want, but their topic of conversation must be about this situation, their strike, their position, etc. They cannot repeat this speech over and over and over just to delay you.

After they run out of words to tell, they legally must move away and let you do whatever you were going to do. If not, they are now in violation. Hence, you can call the Police and Police will make them move away from you.

However, lawyer says, of course, no one is going to call the police on such matters, there will simply be too many occurances and there isn't enough Police for things like this.

The City is always supposed to provide mediators or someone that controls this situation. So the public are not held illegally. But, they don't provide such ppl, and don't want to aggrevate the striking ppl too much = violence may happen.


So, if the stikers are just walking around blocking your car and NOT talking to you and describing their story, then yes, they are illegally blocking you.

But again, there is no enforcement of this, so a lot of them will just not talk to you and some have said "okay, wait 2 minutes here and then we'll move". Kinda like my speech would have taken 2 minutes, so ....

Can I pretend not to understand English when they try to talk to me?

[nishy]

they r not supposed to block u, and most of them dont.
some *******s r ****ING POOP HEADS and they stop you etc.

this is all bull ****, and unions should be abolished. especially for city workers.
you dont like something then gtfo. ther's enough ppl who will gladly take ur job, welcome to the so called "economic recession"

same should have happened to the strike at York University...

im from Etobicoke, but it still pisses me of that the city workers have the nerves to talk smack to ppl (elderly also) who come to dump their garbage to the designated places.

i think most of ppl in Canada have it too good. go to ****ing russia for a while or some other third world country, and see what will happen if u try to complain.

ARGH!

[nishy]

Yes they can, there are police officers now situated at the waste transfer stations, but they're only there to monitor the situation, not to move ticketers out of the way. Do what a guy did yesturday, just slowly move your car and run them over if they get in the way (slowly), the guy who got ran over yesturday went to the hospital, but with no serious injury.


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did the guy who was driving the car :
a) got his car damaged by the protestants after running this kid over?
b) get charged for attempted man slaughter?

cuz id slowly plow all those ****** if there were no b) consequences
for a) u got the cops to charge them and detain them for destruction of private property

WTB SOME LAWYERS IN THIS THREAD!

[stealth]

toronto (rfd especially) is just a community of whiners. We're in day 2 of a garbage strike and what, garbage normally gets picked up once every 7 days? Lets try not to overreact too much yet.

+1 irrational Torontonians freaking out again like when the army was called in to shovel snow for fear some people might be late for work for one morning:)

Ever forgot to put out your garbage one night? Well, pretend it happened again this week. All this hysteria is creating free publicity for the unions and thats exactly what they want. It empowers them when the sheep go into a panic, because they can then come to the rescue...if we give them what they want.

Stupid Torontonians. No wonder they keep voting in the same retards.

[nishy]

Stupid Torontonians. No wonder they keep voting in the same retards.

we want ur Hazel!!!!

[5dark]

+1 irrational Torontonians freaking out again like when the army was called in to shovel snow for fear some people might be late for work for one morning:)

OT: Mel Lastman's legacy to us.. I can't believe we haven't renamed Mel Lastman Square yet.

[jakeer]

we want ur Hazel!!!!

Well, considering that Mississauga is a textbook example of how NOT to plan a city's growth (uncontrolled sprawl, anyone?), I really don't think she should be held up as a shining example of anything other than longevity.

[nishy]

Well, considering that Mississauga is a textbook example of how NOT to plan a city's growth (uncontrolled sprawl, anyone?), I really don't think she should be held up as a shining example of anything other than longevity.
she has a plan
u just dont know about it
....yet
*shifty eyes*

[sonyminidiscman]

+1 irrational Torontonians freaking out again like when the army was called in to shovel snow for fear some people might be late for work for one morning:)

Ever forgot to put out your garbage one night? Well, pretend it happened again this week. All this hysteria is creating free publicity for the unions and thats exactly what they want. It empowers them when the sheep go into a panic, because they can then come to the rescue...if we give them what they want.

Stupid Torontonians. No wonder they keep voting in the same retards.

If I can dump my garbage somewhere, i'd be cool with them picketing... i don't like ppl getting in my way when it is my right to do so. once the city announce dump bins where I can take my trash to, I won't complain anymore.

I am not ******** nor stupid, its pushovers like u whos too pu$$y to speak out.

[Lawl and Order]

the situation is beyond ridiculous, going on strike is one thing but blocking these drop-off stations is despicable

[_Allan_]

the situation is beyond ridiculous, going on strike is one thing but blocking these drop-off stations is despicable

It's the same as when Canada Post goes on strike, and they block the access into their terminals. Same with FedEx or Purolator - they all block access ...

[mazdubb]

The creative side of me wants to build a truck mounted garbage cannon to clear the way! :lol:

[help_questions]

the situation is beyond ridiculous, going on strike is one thing but blocking these drop-off stations is despicable

It just shows you how little CUPE cares about the citizens of Toronto, and how little they care about they environment.

It is all about them....TAKE TAKE TAKE and F the world.

[help_questions]

they r not supposed to block u, and most of them dont.
some *******s r ****ING POOP HEADS and they stop you etc.

this is all bull ****, and unions should be abolished. especially for city workers.
you dont like something then gtfo. ther's enough ppl who will gladly take ur job, welcome to the so called "economic recession"

same should have happened to the strike at York University...

im from Etobicoke, but it still pisses me of that the city workers have the nerves to talk smack to ppl (elderly also) who come to dump their garbage to the designated places.

i think most of ppl in Canada have it too good. go to ****ing russia for a while or some other third world country, and see what will happen if u try to complain.

ARGH!

what I did at York was when they stopped me to talk to me, I would constantly hork and spit the nastiest stuff I could produce on the floor as close to where they were walking.

unions need to go. citizens have rights too.....who is protecting us from the unions.

[stealth]

If I can dump my garbage somewhere, i'd be cool with them picketing... i don't like ppl getting in my way when it is my right to do so. once the city announce dump bins where I can take my trash to, I won't complain anymore.

I am not ******** nor stupid, its pushovers like u whos too pu$$y to speak out.
So hows that going for you so far? lol.
Theres a time to speak out (read: freak out)...missing 1 round of garbage collection is not it.

You might be ******** or stupid IF you think there wont be any picketers at these dump bins from the city that you speak of.
In this province, The Man gives free rein to any protesters, as we've seen in recent times, with natives, Tamils, etc. The right to protest trumps any other rights / conveniences, etc of the general public. Like it or not, those are the cards you've been dealt.

[YYZFA]

did the guy who was driving the car :
a) got his car damaged by the protestants after running this kid over?
b) get charged for attempted man slaughter?

cuz id slowly plow all those ****** if there were no b) consequences
for a) u got the cops to charge them and detain them for destruction of private property

WTB SOME LAWYERS IN THIS THREAD!

Ha ha ha! Are the drivers trying to dump their garbage Catholic?

Seriously, it's a legal strike. They are allowed to picket and delay the public from entering picketed facilities. If you absolutely need to drop your garbage off that badly (I have no idea why it must be done just NOW), then be prepared to wait in line. As for me, I'd rather invest in some nice plastic containers, and use this as a good excuse to start reducing my garbage. Take full advantage of the green bins for composting. When I started using this bins to the fullest, I found that I did went from emptying my garbage from the kitchen from every other day, to about once a week, because my garbage doesn't smell.

And I've always said that Toronto is the Whiny capital of Canada! We don't have it bad compared to most places in the world.

Most people here are so young, but they sound like grumpy old men.

[Davecachia]

Reminds me of the time I couldn't pick up my friend at the GM office in Oshawa because I was driving an import. I drove my car right through them.

You oughta learn from me. You paid your taxes and are entitled to garbage disposal. If jackasses want to keep you from doing that, drive your car right up to their picket line (at the garbage station), go slowly.. and honk at them till they move. Don't release the horn till you are close.

Make sure your doors and windows are closed :P

If you are as pissed off at unions as I am.. go and download the mosquito ringtone at 8khz. Burn it onto a CD. Buy yourself some ear plugs. Play that at max volume, you'll see them run away! If its noisy enough they might puke! Hahaha.

http://www.freemosquitoringtones.org/


And.. if they damage your car, call the cops. That'll clear things up.

[slowtyper]

The creative side of me wants to build a truck mounted garbage cannon to clear the way! :lol:

I had imagined one of those old fashioned wooden catapaults.

[5dark]

Seriously, it's a legal strike. They are allowed to picket and delay the public from entering picketed facilities.

Just like the Tamils on the Gardiner, the York TAs locking out students.

I'm tired to the point of whining of people whining about how whiny other people are. Stop watching the news and reading off topic threads about it, what do you expect to read/see there?

[stealth]

Reminds me of the time I couldn't pick up my friend at the GM office in Oshawa because I was driving an import. I drove my car right through them.

You oughta learn from me. You paid your taxes and are entitled to garbage disposal. If jackasses want to keep you from doing that, drive your car right up to their picket line (at the garbage station), go slowly.. and honk at them till they move. Don't release the horn till you are close.

Make sure your doors and windows are closed :P

If you are as pissed off at unions as I am.. go and download the mosquito ringtone at 8khz. Burn it onto a CD. Buy yourself some ear plugs. Play that at max volume, you'll see them run away! If its noisy enough they might puke! Hahaha.

http://www.freemosquitoringtones.org/


And.. if they damage your car, call the cops. That'll clear things up.
And what is it that you expect the cops will do? A hundred witnesses on the strikers side vs. you. :confused:Plus it could be argued that by advancing on the crowd with your car you were provoking them. And then add to the fact that the Police do NOT want to get into the media as siding against a big union or "peaceful demonstrators", over some dents on an irrational fools car.
Think these situations through people. The union has all the cards in their hand unless the government is willing to do a Reagan-esque move of firing everyone. WHICH THEY DO NOT. All that is happening is a bunch of posturing on both sides, the outcome is predetermined. So relax and ride it out.

[15-20_God]

I'm tired to the point of whining of people whining about how whiny other people are. Stop watching the news and reading off topic threads about it, what do you expect to read/see there?

so most ppl have missed 1 round of garbage pick up. lets all freak out at once now, isn't the right to weekly refuse pick up written somewhere in our constitution, right below the right to cheap gas?

and like one paper said, if garbage pick up is so essential and missing a few days is such an inconvenience, shouldn't we be paying at least 3 times more to the people providing this service?

[DuDe1411]

i think there's should be a law legalizing union beatdown...

http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/9771/grandpa.jpg

i think it might be cheaper to privatize garbage collection and many other services

[5dark]

so most ppl have missed 1 round of garbage pick up. lets all freak out at once now, isn't the right to weekly refuse pick up written somewhere in our constitution, right below the right to cheap gas?

and like one paper said, if garbage pick up is so essential and missing a few days is such an inconvenience, shouldn't we be paying at least 3 times more to the people providing this service?

I'm actually more bothered by people being general *******s, like the picketers here, on the Gardiner and at York.

I'm not talking about any rights for pickup so someone else can argue that if they/you want. I haven't seen anyone freaking out to be honest.

[ginabobolee]

People have right to go on strike and we have right to dump our garbage

I don't have problem they go on legal strike. However, like someone mentioned earlier, if they try to stop me from dumping the garbage at transfer station, I won't be too happy.

Anyway, I plan to go tomorrow morning, taking my garbage and 2 other neighbour's garbage... will update see how it is.

Hope the heat and the rain will help :twisted:

[nishy]

what I did at York was when they stopped me to talk to me, I would constantly hork and spit the nastiest stuff I could produce on the floor as close to where they were walking.

unions need to go. citizens have rights too.....who is protecting us from the unions.

nice :D


all good points. i wonder what would it take for the city to ban those pesky unions :P

[DrTurkelton]

I was in town over the weekend to get some stuff sorted out before I move back to Toronto in the fall. I had to go talk to someone at city hall and had no clue what was going on. I asked the guy If I could get in and he drew himself up like he was preparing to fight me and was a complete ass about it. I was only in town for the weekend and couldnt fill out any of my paperwork so this seriously inconvenienced me. Not to mention the strikers were heckling any body that walked by in a suit saying they were the reason this countrie's going to hell.

I understand they are trying to get a point across but being rude and obstructive isnt really helping their case or drawing sympathy from the public.

[sonyminidiscman]

those new garbage dump bins the city will announce soon... will they be picketed?

on the star.ca they showed some by law guy standing there at the dump site... waiting to give out tickets... how fast do u think that guy can run?? time for some dump'n run... just like when the gas was expensive... ppl gas'n run

[cmge]

I had imagined one of those old fashioned wooden catapaults.

http://www.latest-science-news.com/images/catapult.jpg

Step 1) build catapult
Step 2) drive to picketed waste transfer station
Step 3) ????
Step 4) Profit?

[pintobean]

I hate unions...always have and always will...but I really have to agree with the people who are saying that Torontonians need to stop panicking. I was shocked when I watched the news on Monday night and saw that people had already started dumping garbage in public places. I asked myself why these people already had so many bags of garbage to throw out, and why they felt the need to dump it right away? I mean at the very worst, it would have only been 8 days worth of garbage, so why the need to freak out?

I live in Markham. We get our blue boxes and green bins collected every week, but our garbage is only collected every second week. On many occasions I have been a lazy bum and have decided to skip putting together my garbage so that I could go to bed instead. When this happens, I will have 4 weeks worth of garbage to put out the following garbage day, and I survive just fine. In fact, I could probably make do with monthly garbage collection since I usually only have two shopping bags worth of stuff to put out every two weeks anyways. (On a related note, I visit the Recycling Depot at Hwy 7 and Markham Road on a monthly basis to drop off recyclable styrofoam and plastic bags that aren't collected in our blue boxes right now).

I think that Torontonians need to learn to produce less waste and recycle more. That is probably one of the only good things to come out of this strike.

[mazdubb]

http://www.latest-science-news.com/images/catapult.jpg

Step 1) build catapult
Step 2) drive to picketed waste transfer station
Step 3) ????
Step 4) Profit?

Step 3 could be to charge people a dollar per bag to fling their garbage into the picket line! :lol:

[15-20_God]

but I really have to agree with the people who are saying that Torontonians need to stop panicking. I was shocked when I watched the news on Monday night and saw that people had already started dumping garbage in public places. I asked myself why these people already had so many bags of garbage to throw out, and why they felt the need to dump it right away?

look at this picture. it was day 2 of the garbage strike and some people absolutely had to get rid of some old car tires, broken tv's, a wooden skid, a blanket, and what looks to be a tackle box. On day 2. the problem isn't the union. its us.

http://media.thestar.topscms.com/images/98/f0/6bcc1bde4d7c98f6e7589e6f3606.jpeg

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/656465

[help_questions]

I hate unions...always have and always will...but I really have to agree with the people who are saying that Torontonians need to stop panicking. I was shocked when I watched the news on Monday night and saw that people had already started dumping garbage in public places. I asked myself why these people already had so many bags of garbage to throw out, and why they felt the need to dump it right away? I mean at the very worst, it would have only been 8 days worth of garbage, so why the need to freak out?

I live in Markham. We get our blue boxes and green bins collected every week, but our garbage is only collected every second week. On many occasions I have been a lazy bum and have decided to skip putting together my garbage so that I could go to bed instead. When this happens, I will have 4 weeks worth of garbage to put out the following garbage day, and I survive just fine. In fact, I could probably make do with monthly garbage collection since I usually only have two shopping bags worth of stuff to put out every two weeks anyways. (On a related note, I visit the Recycling Depot at Hwy 7 and Markham Road on a monthly basis to drop off recyclable styrofoam and plastic bags that aren't collected in our blue boxes right now).

I think that Torontonians need to learn to produce less waste and recycle more. That is probably one of the only good things to come out of this strike.

i hate unions too.
i agree with what you are saying. The panic that these people are showing is not good for the city. We need to show the city that we can last all summer and are willing to do so to make the union cave and give up their sink days and sick bank.

ANd then we need to produce less garbage so less garbage men are needed and watch some of these clowns, unskilled clowns get laid off.

[ever1221]

i hate unions too.
i agree with what you are saying. The panic that these people are showing is not good for the city. We need to show the city that we can last all summer and are willing to do so to make the union cave and give up their sink days and sick bank.

ANd then we need to produce less garbage so less garbage men are needed and watch some of these clowns, unskilled clowns get laid off.


you're joking right? you want a whole city to stink all summer just to prove a point?

I say dont give those b***** anything and force your way in or dump garbage on their heads

[YYZFA]

you're joking right? you want a whole city to stink all summer just to prove a point?

I say dont give those b***** anything and force your way in or dump garbage on their heads

Wow, lot's of tough talk from you. I love your posting history. You are an angry little guy, eh?

I hate to break it to you, but you are suggesting breaking the law and assault. The picketers do have a right to delay you from entering picketed areas. I may not agree with what the union is asking for, but they still have the right to strike, if they believe in it.

[deuce]

you're joking right? you want a whole city to stink all summer just to prove a point?

I say dont give those b***** anything and force your way in or dump garbage on their heads

that sounds like assault to me.
go for it. im sure the unionized cops wont charge you with anything.

[deltone]

I live northeast of Toronto so I'm not having to deal with this garbage, and I too hate unions but I also agree that people need to take this time to learn how to reduce garbage. I have a lot of recyclable stuff that goes out each week. One week it's paper etc. and the next week it's plastic, containers etc. Our garbage is picked up each week (by non city workers......it's all contracted) and we don't have composting here. In all honesty, the size of my garbage back is about the size of a typical grocery bag, and it's not full. I stopped buying green garbage bags as I can't fill one.

Yes, it's an inconvenience, and yes, these fools striking at a time when the economy is in a mess is ridiculous. They should be thankful to have a job. But people need to use the brain their maker gave them and stop making a big mess when it's not necessary. REDUCE your garbage. It can be done.

Oh, and far as what some lawyer had said several posts back, it may be the right of the picketers to "tell their story" but it should be the right of the taxpayer to say "no thanks, I'm not interested in listening to you, excuse me, you're blocking my way" and that should be that. I don't want to have to listen to their whining and that is my right, is it not?

[leolee_ca]

look at this picture. it was day 2 of the garbage strike and some people absolutely had to get rid of some old car tires, broken tv's, a wooden skid, a blanket, and what looks to be a tackle box. On day 2. the problem isn't the union. its us.

http://media.thestar.topscms.com/images/98/f0/6bcc1bde4d7c98f6e7589e6f3606.jpeg

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/656465

Are you sure the garbage was not thrown by union members?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAqMn4gEe00

[sonyminidiscman]

so dump site has been announced... are they gonna be picketed?

[st7860]

in toronto do those $26 an hour garbagemen have to lift garbage cans or does toronto have those trucks with robotic arms like vancouver got a few years ago?

[Digital_Domain]

Went the Scarborough transfer station today around 1pm. I must say, I don't know if it was because there was an officer across the road or they decided on how they wanted to act, but was actually not bad. You couldn't drive up, so we parked on the road close by and walked our bags of garage (2) up to the gate. One person asked if we knew why they were striking and I said yes. They just left and talked to other people. Got up to the gate and 2 men there said just to place the bags on the ground. Once I did they picked up the bags and threw them into the back of a garbage truck. Went back to the car and drove off. Much better than the last strike and not anything near what I've seen on the news.

@st7860: we have the robo arms now.

[help_questions]

you're joking right? you want a whole city to stink all summer just to prove a point?

I say dont give those b***** anything and force your way in or dump garbage on their heads

it is not about proving a point...it is about breaking the union and making them lose their sick days and sick day bank.

if they are legislated back to work, arbitration will not take away their benefits that they must lose. we have to tough it out, make them suffer and eventually give up. we need to dig in an destroy them. if we don't, they will continue to eat the city budget until we have 2 pools to share in the city.

that said, dumping garbage on their heads sounds good.

[DuDe1411]

did any of the union member get struck by lightning?
i know it's not something anyone would wish for but... :/

[ginabobolee]

I was at Duffering station on Friday around 1pm. We couldn't drive in. We just parked the car and carried the garbage inside.

Some of the guys (people on strike) actually offered to help to carry the garbage for us (two women). That was nice of them and I definately did not expect that.

Everything was done in 10 mins. Very peaceful process.

[originalnutta]

I was at Duffering station on Friday around 1pm. We couldn't drive in. We just parked the car and carried the garbage inside.

Some of the guys (people on strike) actually offered to help to carry the garbage for us (two women). That was nice of them and I definately did not expect that.

Everything was done in 10 mins. Very peaceful process.

Despite what most people believe, the union workers want to work. They aren't crazy maniacs who are hellbent on destroying the city. They are just everyday joe's who want to provide for their families.

[RazzyRas]

I think parking on the side and then walking the garbage in is the fastest way to dump it. Did that last week at the Markham/Sheppard location. Saw people waiting a long time to drive in.

Anyone been to the 24H ones? Do they have picketers all night round?

[h2o-]

I think parking on the side and then walking the garbage in is the fastest way to dump it. Did that last week at the Markham/Sheppard location. Saw people waiting a long time to drive in.

Anyone been to the 24H ones? Do they have picketers all night round?

I was driving by the Markham/Sheppard transfer last night around 11-ish and there were a few of picketers at the exit facing on Markham Rd.

[Menthol]

in toronto do those $26 an hour garbagemen have to lift garbage cans or does toronto have those trucks with robotic arms like vancouver got a few years ago?
They have the trucks with the arms but they still have to lift an occassional bag or two.

[45ED]

in toronto do those $26 an hour garbagemen have to lift garbage cans or does toronto have those trucks with robotic arms like vancouver got a few years ago?

I figured it was both - garbage folks lift/take the garbage bins to the trucks, and the truck lifts the bins and empties them into it's holding thing. 'Least that's what it seems like around my area.