What is wrong with us Canadians?

[ever1221]

1) Why is it when we get ripped off by Rogers, Bell, and Telus we just let go and ignore the over charging, or accept CS dropping line on us all time when we complain?

2) Why is it when those union workers go on strike and you guys have your garbage all over your city (Toronto) and just let go with it and think you can just go dump it somewhere else or pay someone $3 to pick up your garbage.

3) Why is it that gas costs 11 cents more than what it is suppose to be compared to US, and everyone just does this bad canadian habit and let go with it.

Please stop it, the country is going down a deep hole because of this bad habit, stand up for your rights for god sakes, I'm seriously sick and tired of this.

[danman227460]

Its simple. It takes A LOT of work and attention and chasing to get people to actually care.

We all know that whatever we do doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things.

It takes more competition to bring down prices but if the government doesn't allow it, it won't happen. We can write letters, protest etc until we are blue in the face but if the government doesn't care, nothing happens. People start loosing hope.

If you are sicked and tired, start a group and see how many people show up. There are a lot of groups out there actually that have address these issues but what has been done? Nothing.

As long as the government is getting fat, they don't care about the common folks. What can be done? Vote in a new government.

The issue there is that there aren't enough educated people and having too many immigrants in here not understanding the issue, it makes it even harder. That is why OUR generation might be more adapt at fixing issues but by then, it might be too late.

[bilibulu]

I can add a bunch to your list.

Canada is a loser country.

To me, the only way is to leave this place!!

[danman227460]

Any place you go to, after living there for a while, you will find a flaw.

There is no perfect place.

If you know of one, I want in. Some place with less taxes, more wages.

I can add a bunch to your list.

Canada is a loser country.

To me, the only way is to leave this place!!

[gman]

1) Why is it when we get ripped off by Rogers, Bell, and Telus we just let go and ignore the over charging, or accept CS dropping line on us all time when we complain?
What are you going to do about it?

2) Why is it when those union workers go on strike and you guys have your garbage all over your city (Toronto) and just let go with it and think you can just go dump it somewhere else or pay someone $3 to pick up your garbage.

How are you going to stand up for your right on this? Union workers stand up for their right.


3) Why is it that gas costs 11 cents more than what it is suppose to be compared to US, and everyone just does this bad canadian habit and let go with it.
Again, what is your proposal? Don't drive?


Please stop it, the country is going down a deep hole because of this bad habit, stand up for your rights for god sakes, I'm seriously sick and tired of this.

If you can figure out how, you can be the PM of this country.

We hear people complaint all the time. What is the solution? That is the most important part.

One of the disadvantage of this country is everyone stand up for their own right and don't think about others' right. Business stand up for their own right of earning as much money as possible. Union workers stand up for their own right to earn more money. We stand up our own right to drive. We stand up our own right complaining and not solving.

[ever1221]

What are you going to do about it?


I have had a huge problem with rogers before, I was deceived badly, and overcharged with huge amounts, I kept on calling them and line always drops...I tried my best to get head office phone number, and I did...I called, and mention every employee that deceived me, and got them fired (2 employees) I did not let go, I wasted 2 weeks of my life time, and got what I wanted....

As for the rest, its something I cannot solve on my own, but people should really consider doing demonstrations.
I would definately consider dumping the garbage in those union workers houses so they can understand how they ruined the image of Toronto, and made it look like a **** hole.

[bilibulu]

Any place you go to, after living there for a while, you will find a flaw.

There is no perfect place.

If you know of one, I want in. Some place with less taxes, more wages.

You're right. There is no perfect place.

But Canada is far from perfect.
I have been searching most of my life for a better place than Canada. Yes, there are many. To me, these places are way better than Canada. But to some people, they're not. So it's very subjective.

Having said that, my definition of a better place than Canada should be:

1. The citizens should not be losers who vote for stupid governments like what we have here.
2. There should be low tax. (high wage is not necessary)
3. The governments should respect their people. Not like the CBSA in Canada who treats everyone like criminals.
4. There should be private healthcare. I don't care if they have free healthcare or not but there should be a way to get better healthcare by paying.
5. Not racist. Our country is a very racist country. The natives have extra rights based on the fact that they belong to certain races.
6. Good climate. Canada is mostly inhabitable because of its coldness.

[Yankees 1903]

Go to any country around the world and I'm sure the citizens there will have their own list of things they are upset about.

[originalnutta]

This is why i'm moving to the Moon.

[Whitedart]

1) Why is it when we get ripped off by Rogers, Bell, and Telus we just let go and ignore the over charging, or accept CS dropping line on us all time when we complain?

If you allow them to rip you off. People got along without cell phones and wireless texting for well over a hundred years, before the technology developed.

2) Why is it when those union workers go on strike

And they are not entitled to stand up for their rights?


and you guys have your garbage all over your city (Toronto) and just let go with it and think you can just go dump it somewhere else or pay someone $3 to pick up your garbage.

Considering that all of Toronto received waste collection up to last Friday, there is an awful lot of garbage appearing that no one seems to have room to store for a couple of days. How did they ever manage before the strike started to keep their garbage stored for a week between collection days?

3) Why is it that gas costs 11 cents more than what it is suppose to be compared to US, and everyone just does this bad canadian habit and let go with it.

Someone has to pay for "free" health care, in one form of tax or another.

Please stop it, the country is going down a deep hole because of this bad habit, stand up for your rights for god sakes, I'm seriously sick and tired of this.

Some CUPE members are, and look at the attitude being displayed to them.

[stealth]

You're right. There is no perfect place.

But Canada is far from perfect.
I have been searching most of my life for a better place than Canada. Yes, there are many. To me, these places are way better than Canada. But to some people, they're not. So it's very subjective.

Having said that, my definition of a better place than Canada should be:

1. The citizens should not be losers who vote for stupid governments like what we have here.
2. There should be low tax. (high wage is not necessary)
3. The governments should respect their people. Not like the CBSA in Canada who treats everyone like criminals.
4. There should be private healthcare. I don't care if they have free healthcare or not but there should be a way to get better healthcare by paying.
5. Not racist. Our country is a very racist country. The natives have extra rights based on the fact that they belong to certain races.
6. Good climate. Canada is mostly inhabitable because of its coldness.

So why you still here, bud?
I guess the government of Whinerstan doesnt accept visa applications from procrastinators. :)

[ever1221]

And they are not entitled to stand up for their rights?


Can you elaborate on that? What rights are they asking for?

I honestly do not understand what more you can ask for when you have a secured Job in this economy.

[justblaze619]

People just love to find things to ***** about... Yes what you're saying is true (somewhat) but EVERY country has it's share of problems and Canada, I would say, doesn't have too many.

Go live in North Korea, south Africa, Afghanistan, Pakistan, china and see how it feels

[gman]

You're right. There is no perfect place.

But Canada is far from perfect.
I have been searching most of my life for a better place than Canada. Yes, there are many. To me, these places are way better than Canada. But to some people, they're not. So it's very subjective.

Having said that, my definition of a better place than Canada should be:

1. The citizens should not be losers who vote for stupid governments like what we have here.
2. There should be low tax. (high wage is not necessary)
3. The governments should respect their people. Not like the CBSA in Canada who treats everyone like criminals.
4. There should be private healthcare. I don't care if they have free healthcare or not but there should be a way to get better healthcare by paying.
5. Not racist. Our country is a very racist country. The natives have extra rights based on the fact that they belong to certain races.
6. Good climate. Canada is mostly inhabitable because of its coldness.

1. The only possible solution for fulfill "the citizens should not be losers who vote for stupid governments like what we have here" is "not to vote".
2. Can't be done because the only choice is stupid government and the only solution is (1).
3. Our legal system is already too soft.
4. see (2).
5. in this case, which country is not a racist country?
6. you can start to spend more effort to increase green house effect.

[bilibulu]

So why you still here, bud?
I guess the government of Whinerstan doesnt accept visa applications from procrastinators. :)

Unfortunately yes. I still don't feel like folding up or selling my business yet. But I only spend about half of my time here. I am not in Canada most weekend.:)

I am not a procrastinator, so I have already got my citizenship in Whinerstan.:)

[ever1221]

People just love to find things to ***** about... Yes what you're saying is true (somewhat) but EVERY country has it's share of problems and Canada, I would say, doesn't have too many.

Go live in North Korea, south Africa, Afghanistan, Pakistan, china and see how it feels

This kind of mentality would only ruin our country....

we are not suppose to take the negatives of other countries and compare it to ours. We need to work on our own negatives and fix them to top other countries...

[bilibulu]

1. The only possible solution for fulfill "the citizens should not be losers who vote for stupid governments like what we have here" is "not to vote".
2. Can't be done because the only choice is stupid government and the only solution is (1).
3. Our legal system is already too soft.
4. see (2).
5. in this case, which country is not a racist country?
6. you can start to spend more effort to increase green house effect.

1,2,4 Kind of agreed. That's why I'm not really a fan of democracy.
3 Partially agreed. Our legal system should be tougher to convicted criminals but government workers should respect their innocent citizens more.
5. a country without native people.
6. I have done more than my part in this.:twisted:

[gman]

This kind of mentality would only ruin our country....

we are not suppose to take the negatives of other countries and compare it to ours. We need to work on our own negatives and fix them to top other countries...

The kind of mentality makes people happy. The happiest people is the people who does not care and feel good about it.

[justblaze619]

This kind of mentality would only ruin our country....

we are not suppose to take the negatives of other countries and compare it to ours. We need to work on our own negatives and fix them to top other countries...

Yes but you do realize your mentality only sounds good on paper? It is next to impossible to have 0 flaws with ANYTHING in life. Say you own a small business, do you think you would be able to run it 100% efficiently? Now think how hard it would be to achieve 100% efficiency when running a whole damn country

[gman]

5. a country without native people.


Most place has aboriginal people who has extra right. That includes the place like Hong Kong, US, Australia, etc.

[bilibulu]

Most place has aboriginal people who has extra right. That includes the place like Hong Kong, US, Australia, etc.

But most don't, like England, Singapore, Portugal, etc.

[mysticalinfluence]

I can add a bunch to your list.

Canada is a loser country.

To me, the only way is to leave this place!!

Feel free to leave at anytime we don't need you here. If you don't like it just go and stop bitching go to your better place of choice. You attitude towards one the greatest counties in the world is just insult to the citizens; you sound like whinning teenager that never experienced hardships and thinks everything is perfect.

[gman]

But most don't, like England, Singapore, Portugal, etc.

Of course, they do. That is why England has different 'classes'.

Singapore:

Although many Malays in Singapore are generally of mixed descent, they are still recognised as indigenous people of Singapore by the Singapore Constitution, Part XIII, General Provisions, Minorities and special position of Malays, section 152:

The Government shall exercise its functions in such manner as to recognise the special position of the Malays, who are the indigenous people of Singapore, and accordingly it shall be the responsibility of the Government to protect, safeguard, support, foster and promote their political, educational, religious, economic, social and cultural interests and the Malay language.

[MasterXan]

:lol:

And they are not entitled to stand up for their rights?




they are entitled to their rights...

but they are also entitled to be fired if someone will work for less. that's how the free market works.

the thing is ladies and gentlemen that capitalism...for the lack of a better word...is good.

capitalism is right

capitalism works.

capitalism clarifies, cuts through, and captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit.

And capitalism -- you all mark my words -- will not only save Ontario, but that other malfunctioning corporation called Canada.

[gman]

:lol:

they are entitled to their rights...

but they are also entitled to be fired if someone will work for less. that's how the free market works.

Not in Canada.


the thing is ladies and gentlemen that capitalism...for the lack of a better word...is good.

capitalism is right

Everybody knows capitalism is right but our governments are left though. ;)


capitalism works.

capitalism clarifies, cuts through, and captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit.

And capitalism -- you all mark my words -- will not only save Ontario, but that other malfunctioning corporation called Canada.

We can't be saved.

[bilibulu]

Of course, they do. That is why England has different 'classes'.

Singapore:

But there is not preferential treatment due to RACE.

[bilibulu]

Feel free to leave at anytime we don't need you here. If you don't like it just go and stop bitching go to your better place of choice. You attitude towards one the greatest counties in the world is just insult to the citizens; you sound like whinning teenager that never experienced hardships and thinks everything is perfect.

I have paid over 10 million dollars in taxes in the past couple of decades. I have contributed to the economy of Canada more than most people here.

Greatest countries in the world? Bullsh it! If I were not born here and if I didn't make a mistake of setting up a business here, I would not have stayed!:evil:

[bilibulu]

:lol:

they are entitled to their rights...

but they are also entitled to be fired if someone will work for less. that's how the free market works.

the thing is ladies and gentlemen that capitalism...for the lack of a better word...is good.

capitalism is right

capitalism works.

capitalism clarifies, cuts through, and captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit.

And capitalism -- you all mark my words -- will not only save Ontario, but that other malfunctioning corporation called Canada.

Yes. Capitalism would be the key!!!

Ban the unions, stop the stupid universal healthcare. Start educating the citizens about capitalism....

This will save Canada. But before this happens, I would be dead for a long time.

So my solution would be to leave!!!:evil:

[stealth]

I have paid over 10 million dollars in taxes in the past couple of decades. I have contributed to the economy of Canada more than most people here.

Greatest countries in the world? Bullsh it! If I were not born here and if I didn't make a mistake of setting up a business here, I would not have stayed!:evil:

Oh come on now! you could relocate your computer repair business anywhere you wanted to.
http://www.dailyhaha.com/_pics/nerd_computer_repair.jpg

No offense, but I gotta call your posts BS. They sound like the logic of a 14 yr old. Among other nonsense...
5. a country without native people.

kinda says it all :)

[stealth]

But there is not preferential treatment due to RACE.

You've obviously never been to england. Take some time and visit, better yet, bring a South east asian (Indian) or black friend with you.

[bilibulu]

You've obviously never been to england. Take some time and visit, better yet, bring a South east asian (Indian) or black friend with you.

Actually, I have LIVED in England. I know what you're talking about.

But the racism is not official (coming from the government). You get this here too.

[jason9945]

1) Why is it when we get ripped off by Rogers, Bell, and Telus we just let go and ignore the over charging, or accept CS dropping line on us all time when we complain?

3) Why is it that gas costs 11 cents more than what it is suppose to be compared to US, and everyone just does this bad canadian habit and let go with it.

Please stop it, the country is going down a deep hole because of this bad habit, stand up for your rights for god sakes, I'm seriously sick and tired of this.

Here is a hint....
Canadian Population 33,212,696
US Population 304,059,724

Thats a difference of 270847028. Great eh? So do you think our smaller population and greater area could possibly be a factor in why things are more expensive here? Everybody in canada would need to have 5 cell phones to equal the number of subscribers in the states. Lets not even try to compare the number of cars.

[MrDisco]

1) Why is it when we get ripped off by Rogers, Bell, and Telus

Small market, few companies to compete against, takes big money to develop the infrastructure.


2) Why is it when those union workers go on strike blah blah blah blah


Why is it [some] Canadians insist on creating new threads to re-hash tired topics, particularly when there is already an active thread on the very subject?


3) Why is it that gas costs 11 cents more than what it is suppose to be compared to US, and everyone just does this bad canadian habit and let go with it.


Regulation of a commodity traded on the world market sounds like a national energy program. Hmm where did I hear this before?


stand up for your rights for god sakes

Having a cell phone that you can afford is not a right.
To legally strike is a right.
Low gas prices is not a right.

Stay in school please and brush up on your civics.

[ever1221]

Having a cell phone that you can afford is not a right.



completely missed the point

stupidity at its best.

[CanadaEQ]

:lol:

they are entitled to their rights...

but they are also entitled to be fired if someone will work for less. that's how the free market works.

the thing is ladies and gentlemen that capitalism...for the lack of a better word...is good.

capitalism is right

capitalism works.

capitalism clarifies, cuts through, and captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit.

And capitalism -- you all mark my words -- will not only save Ontario, but that other malfunctioning corporation called Canada.


1. Do you consider Canada capitalist?
2. Do you consider America capitalist?
3. Are there any countries you consider 100% capitalist?

[manixc]

You're right. There is no perfect place.

But Canada is far from perfect.
I have been searching most of my life for a better place than Canada. Yes, there are many. To me, these places are way better than Canada. But to some people, they're not. So it's very subjective.

Having said that, my definition of a better place than Canada should be:

1. The citizens should not be losers who vote for stupid governments like what we have here.
2. There should be low tax. (high wage is not necessary)
3. The governments should respect their people. Not like the CBSA in Canada who treats everyone like criminals.
4. There should be private healthcare. I don't care if they have free healthcare or not but there should be a way to get better healthcare by paying.
5. Not racist. Our country is a very racist country. The natives have extra rights based on the fact that they belong to certain races.
6. Good climate. Canada is mostly inhabitable because of its coldness.
Which places are better than Canada? I want to know.

[brunes]

Here is a hint....
Canadian Population 33,212,696
US Population 304,059,724

Thats a difference of 270847028. Great eh? So do you think our smaller population and greater area could possibly be a factor in why things are more expensive here? Everybody in canada would need to have 5 cell phones to equal the number of subscribers in the states. Lets not even try to compare the number of cars.

That comparison is silly. The population of Canada is actually fairly dense and clustered. 3/4 of the population of Canada live within 150Km of the US border.

You would be better off doing something like comparing Canada to California. Both have roughly the same population. California has a moderate population density, comparable to the Canada/US border region.

[deltone]

That comparison is silly. The population of Canada is actually fairly dense and clustered. 3/4 of the population of Canada live within 150Km of the US border.

You would be better off doing something like comparing Canada to California. Both have roughly the same population. California has a moderate population density, comparable to the Canada/US border region.

While your facts are correct, you are missing a VERY important fact. California is nowhere near the same amount of land mass as Canada and therefore it only supplys services to a much smaller area. We still have to service, with the roads, healthcare, postal service, and the list goes on, a HUGE area, regardless of the limited population up north. The solution (although I'm not suggesting it should really happen) would be to chop off the northern part of the country and make the southern part our country and leave the rest of the tundra to take care of itself. That is obviously not a solution.

Also, you failed to mention about what a serious financial mess California is in.

As for the guy whining about all of the great rights our natives have, I beg to differ. Our natives have the most drug, alcohol, abuse and poverty levels of anyone else in the country. I doubt many would want to trade places and go live on a reservation. What our government has done, and allowed to be done to the Aboriginals in this country is heartbreaking.

[Troi]

Yeah....well, I love it here. I love being Canadian. :)

[thumper80]

Yeah....well, I love it here. I love being Canadian. :)

+1000000000000000

When i started reading this thread Eddie Murphy's voice kept popping in my head " If you don't like it ...... Get the *&*^ out " lol

As for the cell phone providers , if you really have a billing issue or any problem with them , being extra nice and courteous on the phone with them . I do and always get resolution fast . Wouldn't you rather have a pleasant conversation than a heated yelling match.

As for the price of gas , we are fairly cheap compared to some country's
If it bothers you that much build a bio diesel and hit restaurants up

[solarflare600]

american history shows they will go the extra mile to uphold their constitution. i mean they told the british to go shove it. meanwhile canada likes to get taken up the ***.

[at1212b]

1) Why is it when we get ripped off by Rogers, Bell, and Telus we just let go and ignore the over charging, or accept CS dropping line on us all time when we complain?

2) Why is it when those union workers go on strike and you guys have your garbage all over your city (Toronto) and just let go with it and think you can just go dump it somewhere else or pay someone $3 to pick up your garbage.

3) Why is it that gas costs 11 cents more than what it is suppose to be compared to US, and everyone just does this bad canadian habit and let go with it.

Please stop it, the country is going down a deep hole because of this bad habit, stand up for your rights for god sakes, I'm seriously sick and tired of this.

Read your history.

Then you'll realize Canada are Loyalists (meaning we do not rebel) unlike the Americans, and like to keep things private, easily embarrassed and will not stand up for ourselves.

The Queen could over and proclaim her absolute authority, and most of us would just watch to see what happens, not realizing if she actually started to take power.

Do that to the Revolutionary, Rebellious Americans, and that'll be a show to watch.

[couch_potato]

Canadians are spineless wimps and takes everything shoved in their face. A country of bleeding hearts and left wingers who supports the under-dog, despite our declining economy.

[bilibulu]

Canadians are spineless wimps and takes everything shoved in their face. A country of bleeding hearts and left wingers who supports the under-dog, despite our declining economy.

Not just that. Canadians are very offended when reminded of their shortcomings.

They are so proud of their self-perceived BEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD status that they can't take any criticisms. Inferiority complex.:rolleyes:

[chinese zzz]

I love the Chinatown in Toronto.. :D
dim sum .. $$ 1.99:cheesygri

[CanadaEQ]

Not just that. Canadians are very offended when reminded of their shortcomings.

They are so proud of their self-perceived BEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD status that they can't take any criticisms. Inferiority complex.

You can't really blame people for getting in a huff if you are just continually trying to straw man them. I mean, ranking Canada as a very racist country? For all the traveling you claim to do this is an asinine statement, what do you expect people answer with?

That comparison is silly. The population of Canada is actually fairly dense and clustered. 3/4 of the population of Canada live within 150Km of the US border.

You would be better off doing something like comparing Canada to California. Both have roughly the same population. California has a moderate population density, comparable to the Canada/US border region.

The comparison is apt. It is an economies of scale question. If a country is doing business in America there are low barriers to becoming a national company and selling your product nationwide to 300m+, so you can move into California with relative ease. However, moving into a similar market in Canada is a relative pain in the ass, there's a multitude of issues that cost money and are reflected in the price.

Also, as a smaller market we are more prone to oligopolies and price collusion.

[Lone_Prodigy]

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

[stealth]

Not just that. Canadians are very offended when reminded of their shortcomings.

They are so proud of their self-perceived BEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD status that they can't take any criticisms. Inferiority complex.:rolleyes:

Not really We just expect a more intelligent argument to convince us of our shortcomings than the following:

1. The citizens should not be losers who vote for stupid governments like what we have here.
2. There should be low tax. (high wage is not necessary)
3. The governments should respect their people. Not like the CBSA in Canada who treats everyone like criminals.4. There should be private healthcare. I don't care if they have free healthcare or not but there should be a way to get better healthcare by paying.
5. Not racist. Our country is a very racist country. The natives have extra rights based on the fact that they belong to certain races.
6. Good climate. Canada is mostly inhabitable because of its coldness.

Seriously, those look like the thoughts of a child. The only good point you make is regarding cold climate. But lots of countries have cold climates, and Canada is known for it. Anyone who came to this country and was surprised that we have cold weather, isnt exactly the sharpest tool in the shed.

[MasterXan]

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

comrades!! good news from the western front!

our great garbage disposal specialists are striking and are demanding that every garbage dispoal specialist gets to have the benefit of banking sick days and more pay! However, the evil capitalist swine are saying that the free market dictates wages! WHAT DO YOU EXPECT a capitalist swine would say?!?!? I laugh at those pigs!

in other news, our great comrades at the ????? ?? ???????? ??? ??????? are demanding that casual workers get the same benefit as fulltime workers. however, once again the capitalists swine believes that existing workers get decent pay and should not complain! oh how I despise those capitalist pigs!

now the pigs want to have a private tier healthcare to mitigate the wait times. however, anyone who wants to mitigate wait times to save lives have already committed treason and should be excecuted.

in other news, Ontario will have a provincial anthem

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT1jDarOWoo

[bilibulu]

LOL

Hardcore communist countries like China is heading towards capitalism!

One day, maybe this day has arrived, that living in China is better than living in Canada.:eek::rolleyes:

Perfect timing. I will be leaving Canada within 10 years, hopefully 5. I would love to see this country sink!!!! :evil:

Let the losers enjoy bankruptcy and still hail Canada is the best country in the world.




comrades!! good news from the western front!

our great garbage disposal specialists are striking and are demanding that every garbage dispoal specialist gets to have the benefit of banking sick days and more pay! However, the evil capitalist swine are saying that the free market dictates wages! WHAT DO YOU EXPECT a capitalist swine would say?!?!? I laugh at those pigs!

in other news, our great comrades at the ????? ?? ???????? ??? ??????? are demanding that casual workers get the same benefit as fulltime workers. however, once again the capitalists swine believes that existing workers get decent pay and should not complain! oh how I despise those capitalist pigs!

now the pigs want to have a private tier healthcare to mitigate the wait times. however, anyone who wants to mitigate wait times to save lives have already committed treason and should be excecuted.

in other news, Ontario will have a provincial anthem

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT1jDarOWoo

[CanadaEQ]

You both obviously have a very poor understanding of Capitalism. Have fun with your whining though.

[Nakuruin]

If you don't know why natives have the benefits and right to self-government, well then, you've seriously got nothing to complain about. They aren't exactly rolling in money and their situation is a result of what Canada did to them in the past.

I'm proud to live in a country that grants equal rights to everyone regardless of orientation, race, religion etc. Even in England there is strong support for a nationalistic and racist party...

I also find it amusing how the past few pages are praising capitalism despite the fact that it was a key factor as to why the economy became a dud. It's also why many Americans live in poverty, cannot afford healthcare and many other things. Have fun living in a country where not everyone receives the opportunity to partake in a fair distribution of the country's wealth :P

[bilibulu]

If you don't know why natives have the benefits and right to self-government, well then, you've seriously got nothing to complain about. They aren't exactly rolling in money and their situation is a result of what Canada did to them in the past.

Of course I do. But whether I agree with it is another issue.


I'm proud to live in a country that grants equal rights to everyone regardless of orientation, race, religion etc.


Aboriginal people have definitely more rights than an average Canadian.


I also find it amusing how the past few pages are praising capitalism despite the fact that it was a key factor as to why the economy became a dud. It's also why many Americans live in poverty, cannot afford healthcare and many other things. Have fun living in a country where not everyone receives the opportunity to partake in a fair distribution of the country's wealth :P
Capitalism is the natural way. It has been like this since the beginning of mankind. Socialism, communism etc are just stupid creations of some evil ideologists in the past couple of centuries.

[wong8egg]

1) Why is it when we get ripped off by Rogers, Bell, and Telus we just let go and ignore the over charging, or accept CS dropping line on us all time when we complain?

2) Why is it when those union workers go on strike and you guys have your garbage all over your city (Toronto) and just let go with it and think you can just go dump it somewhere else or pay someone $3 to pick up your garbage.

3) Why is it that gas costs 11 cents more than what it is suppose to be compared to US, and everyone just does this bad canadian habit and let go with it.

Please stop it, the country is going down a deep hole because of this bad habit, stand up for your rights for god sakes, I'm seriously sick and tired of this.

4) Why when most Canadian banks are charging ridiculous fee off every service and people still borrowing(deposit) their money to the bank so they could make more money off your money?

5) Why one company, namely TTC, is owning the bus, subway and streetcar service all in one so they can screw us in every strike, and the Torontian just let it get away each time???

6) Why the malls are closed on Holidays (by law) when that simply against our basic right and freedom that the country promote?

7) Why garbage collection, school and transportation is not essential services by law when it is essential for everyone's living?

The list can go on and on.... :o

[CanadaEQ]

Capitalism is the natural way. It has been like this since the beginning of mankind. Socialism, communism etc are just stupid creations of some evil ideologists in the past couple of centuries.

I think you do a great disservice to discourse with ignorant statements like this. The fact is there is no country in the world that is 100% capitalist, and for good reason. The only problem with capitalism is humans. We need some regulations to keep us from shooting ourselves in the foot. If I were to make a capitalism/socialism shake though, it would probably be 90 capitalism/10 socialism. You only show you have no idea what you are talking about when you argue capitalism vs. socialism as if our only choice is one or the other when every single developed country in the world is a hybrid of the two.

"The free market is ugly and stupid, like going to the mall; the unfree market is just as ugly and just as stupid, except there is nothing in the mall and if you don't go there they shoot you." - P.J. O'Rourke

[Ebola]

I can add a bunch to your list.

Canada is a loser country.

To me, the only way is to leave this place!!


And this type of person is the answer to the thread question.

People who allegedly hate the country, but don't leave.

[ever1221]

lets get something straightened here...

Canada is in my blood running every second, and I love this country so much more than anyone here. When I mention negatives of this country, it is so that we can try and fix them, not for the sake of letting Canada down...

[bilibulu]

I think you do a great disservice to discourse with ignorant statements like this. The fact is there is no country in the world that is 100% capitalist, and for good reason. The only problem with capitalism is humans. We need some regulations to keep us from shooting ourselves in the foot. If I were to make a capitalism/socialism shake though, it would probably be 90 capitalism/10 socialism. You only show you have no idea what you are talking about when you argue capitalism vs. socialism as if our only choice is one or the other when every single developed country in the world is a hybrid of the two.

"The free market is ugly and stupid, like going to the mall; the unfree market is just as ugly and just as stupid, except there is nothing in the mall and if you don't go there they shoot you." - P.J. O'Rourke
I don't have a social science degree. But I do have common sense and I do know what capitalism is all about.

I am wealthier than most people and this is probably the reason why I prefer capitalism. This is another reason why I don't like democracy because most people are poor and a democratic society will be dominated by the majority, who are poor. The poor would rob the rich. This is what's happening here. Note that my definition of poor here is anyone who is less wealthy from I am.:twisted:

[CanadaEQ]

I do know what capitalism is all about.


Honestly, I really don't think that you do.

[bilibulu]

Honestly, I really don't think that you do.

I don't think my understanding of capitalism deviates much from this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalism

[MasterXan]

I think you do a great disservice to discourse with ignorant statements like this. The fact is there is no country in the world that is 100% capitalist, and for good reason. The only problem with capitalism is humans. We need some regulations to keep us from shooting ourselves in the foot. If I were to make a capitalism/socialism shake though, it would probably be 90 capitalism/10 socialism. You only show you have no idea what you are talking about when you argue capitalism vs. socialism as if our only choice is one or the other when every single developed country in the world is a hybrid of the two.

"The free market is ugly and stupid, like going to the mall; the unfree market is just as ugly and just as stupid, except there is nothing in the mall and if you don't go there they shoot you." - P.J. O'Rourke

what disservice?

how far do we need to regulate?

here's something inspiration from Gordon Gekko:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQnCFdjLJAM

[hagbard]

Don't worry. Its all going to collapse soon and people will be forced to do something. Get ready to duck.

BTW, real capitalism died years ago.

[hyperion]

I'm glad discussions like this are taking place, even in such a limited form as this forum. It means people are finally waking up and beginning to question WHY things are the way they are. That's the first step to changing things for the better.

[hagbard]

We start when will eliminate the many blood sucking parasites (google it if you don't understand). :twisted:

what disservice?

how far do we need to regulate?

here's something inspiration from Gordon Gekko:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQnCFdjLJAM

That character was created by someone who hates capitalism, but the words are totally correct. Self interest is the central tenant of any economic system (as pointed out as long ago was when Adam Smith described it in Wealth of Nations).

[jjfz3000]

1) Why is it when we get ripped off by Rogers, Bell, and Telus we just let go and ignore the over charging, or accept CS dropping line on us all time when we complain?

2) Why is it when those union workers go on strike and you guys have your garbage all over your city (Toronto) and just let go with it and think you can just go dump it somewhere else or pay someone $3 to pick up your garbage.

3) Why is it that gas costs 11 cents more than what it is suppose to be compared to US, and everyone just does this bad canadian habit and let go with it.

Please stop it, the country is going down a deep hole because of this bad habit, stand up for your rights for god sakes, I'm seriously sick and tired of this.

1. There needs to be more competition in the industry. Use the smaller firms like iTalkBB.

2. Petition government to stop using union. I heard the government loses $5 million per day if the Toronto Liquor union strikes. The government should just hire non-unionized workers to replace them.

3. Exchange rate? 1 CAD = 0.87 US