Canadian Tire - Schwinn hybrid bicycle - $239

[panny_allroom]

Anyone know if this is a good deal for this bicycle?http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/Summer/BikesAccessories/BikesHybrid/PRD~0711379P/Schwinn%2BCircuit%2BXT%2B700C%2BHybrid%2BBike.jsp
Been looking for an affordable hybrid i can zip around on pavement for long distances and this is the cheapest I've seen this bike go for.

[basketball]

I was looking at this too, might have been better if you had noticed yesterday or friday to get $10 off.

I couldn't find any reviews other than in CT site, should be k for paved roads.
Just check it out at CT and see how it feels, i guess

I decided not to purchase this since I have a old road bike and decided to continue with it because I wasn't sure how my next few summers are gonna play out.

[Scottie]

BE carfull buying bikes from there? I Bought a Hadra 24 speed last year and there was something wrong with it that they could not fix and they wouldn't do anything for me The gears 5 and over grind really bad They would not refund me even though the bike was only 5 days old and I only rode it once and then I noticed it and then took it right back that day, anyways I will never buy a bike from there again.

[basketball]

BE carfull buying bikes from there? I Bought a Hadra 24 speed last year and there was something wrong with it that they could not fix and they wouldn't do anything for me The gears 5 and over grind really bad They would not refund me even though the bike was only 5 days old and I only rode it once and then I noticed it and then took it right back that day, anyways I will never buy a bike from there again.

ya, I read many bad things about buyin from big box stores too, so, maybe good to inspect it carefully before buyin and taking it straight to a bike shop before putting it on the road for a check up.

[panny_allroom]

Just bought it. Seems ok but I am not an expert on bikes. Breaks are well adjusted and the gears seem to shift smoothly although I'm sure a pro would prefer to calibrate the drivetrain himself.
It's fine for my recreational needs for now, will see how well it holds up after I put a few miles on it.

The CT clerk said the bike has a 1 year warranty... Not sure why they wouldn't take back your bike Scottie.. hope I don't experience the same thing if something goes wrong with this bike.

[fng303]

It may have 1 year warranty but go to the Refund Desk and you will see
a lot of notices about how many weeks some items are allowed to be
returned or exchanged.
Example : Anything with gas powered : no return if used.
Don't care if it is only 1 day.

[JAC]

Yeah, CT has a horrible return policy, basically no returns on opened items. There is now absolutely no incentive to buy big-ticket items there.

I have a feeling it may vary somewhat from store to store, though.

[vedia]

Yeah, CT has a horrible return policy, basically no returns on opened items. There is now absolutely no incentive to buy big-ticket items there.

I have a feeling it may vary somewhat from store to store, though.

no way, ive always had no problems with returns at CT

[twinstar]

no way, ive always had no problems with returns at CT

I've never had any issues either. They've always taken any return I've done.

[bobcat99]

yeah, ct has a horrible return policy, basically no returns on opened items. There is now absolutely no incentive to buy big-ticket items there.

I have a feeling it may vary somewhat from store to store, though.

+1. To the point now that I have stopped buying anything that is over $25 from them.

[jande9]

In general buying bikes from a big box is a bad idea, but maybe this bike is an exception.

The hybrid style, ie. mountain bike frame and gearing with road bike wheels, is what I ride, and I like it a lot.

They say "professional assembly recommended". Does that mean it comes unassembled?

They say that it has a front suspension, but the picture doesn't seem to show that.

It seems to have the Altus rear derailleur, which is not great but OK for everyday use I think.

[Sash[DSL]]

Their return policy used to be great, near Costco-quality. However, they have been slowly changing and tightening it. Bad idea if you ask me as reputation takes years to develop and a minute to break.
To the point of this deal - this has been discussed over and over again.. This deal is fine if you know nothing about bikes and do not want to go shopping around. However, a local bike shop will likely have something in the pricerange that will work out far better by a long shot.
The bike OBVIOUSLY tries to look expensive while being cheap. Just look at the wheels, enough said!

[pawlusho]

I will test the return policy of CT tomorrow morning when I bring back the Danby microwave which I bought on June 2nd. Three times it has tripped the circuit breaker when the microwave just started to function. It has been used for approx. one week. Will report tomorrow on outcome.

[j27lee]

I will test the return policy of CT tomorrow morning when I bring back the Danby microwave which I bought on June 2nd. Three times it has tripped the circuit breaker when the microwave just started to function. It has been used for approx. one week. Will report tomorrow on outcome.

Could be inadequate wiring in your kitchen. You may have lights, and other appliances overloading the same circuit as your microwave.

[George W. Bush]

Don't mean to hijack, but I think people should rather get this one: http://www.costco.ca/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=10320531&search=bike&Mo=17&cm_re=1_en-_-Top_Left_Nav-_-Top_search&lang=en-CA&Nr=P_CatalogName:BCCA&Sp=S&N=0&whse=BCCA&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntk=Text_Search&Dr=P_CatalogName:BCCA&Ne=4000000&D=bike&Ntt=bike&No=14&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&Nty=1&topnav=&s=1

Much better built bike, better warranty.

[Dirty Sanchez]

Anyone know if this is a good deal for this bicycle?http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/Summer/BikesAccessories/BikesHybrid/PRD~0711379P/Schwinn%2BCircuit%2BXT%2B700C%2BHybrid%2BBike.jsp
Been looking for an affordable hybrid i can zip around on pavement for long distances and this is the cheapest I've seen this bike go for.

I just came back from a little 20km cruise with it, and I have to say this bike is an absolute steal at $239.

I bought it about 6 weeks ago at the full price of $319, since then I have gone back twice to get price protections done. Once for $50 when it was $269, and then again today I got back another $30 back.

I put 40km on this bike last Sunday, and the bike was rock solid and begging for more. Very fast smooth bike, and braking is unreal.

Its also suprisingly light, I needed to take it on the subway, and it was no problem.

Sure you can go to a specialty bike shop, but to get a similar machine with very similar results you would have to fork over $800 easy.

[ahson]

I've never had any issues either. They've always taken any return I've done.

CT won't return/exchange for bikes, beware!:evil: I was a victim of it.

[basketball]

I just came back from a little 20km cruise with it, and I have to say this bike is an absolute steal at $239.

I bought it about 6 weeks ago at the full price of $319, since then I have gone back twice to get price protections done. Once for $50 when it was $269, and then again today I got back another $30 back.

I put 40km on this bike last Sunday, and the bike was rock solid and begging for more. Very fast smooth bike, and braking is unreal.

Its also suprisingly light, I needed to take it on the subway, and it was no problem.

Sure you can go to a specialty bike shop, but to get a similar machine with very similar results you would have to fork over $800 easy.

ya, price seems pretty good, you'll have to spend about twice to get a better and lighter bike (for ex: I found a Giant FCR 3 for $500 @ d'ornellas in Scarborough)

[bain19]

I picked this bike up this weekend couple negative notes but I do like this bike so keep that in mind.

Put 9 klicks on this bike the first day i got it. On the tires it says fill to 100 psi max.... dont the inner tubes are very cheap(do about 80 psi)

Also Spend some cash and get a pro shop to get this bike setup the CT kids putting these bikes together suck.


I shopped around, went to the pro shops too. They had nothing they could even show me that had the same features and was around the CT pre sale price.

Ohya when i blew out the tire I returned the whole bike and they gave me a new one :) CT return policey is just fine

[enko]

I bought this bike a few weeks ago at 319. I'll try to do the price protection :|

It's definitely a steal. You can't get close to this at a local bike shop.

First thing I did was re-adjust the breaks, remove the wheel reflectors and put on a front and rear light.

The shifting is pretty decent, bike is not as light as my previous Diamondback from sportchek, but oh well.

There is indeed no front suspension. Riding in the city is fairly harsh with the small tires, but rolls great on the paths!

[petey123]

cheapest place for a basic tune up in scarborough? i think i'll just get this bike for commuting but i want to pass it thru a shop inspection.

[jeffsentra]

Could be inadequate wiring in your kitchen. You may have lights, and other appliances overloading the same circuit as your microwave.

I second that... if it's tripping the breaker its your power supply to the microwave. MAke sure it is at least 15 amps on your breaker panel and don't run other stuff on the same line.

[HouseApe]

Don't mean to hijack, but I think people should rather get this one: http://www.costco.ca/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=10320531&search=bike&Mo=17&cm_re=1_en-_-Top_Left_Nav-_-Top_search&lang=en-CA&Nr=P_CatalogName:BCCA&Sp=S&N=0&whse=BCCA&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntk=Text_Search&Dr=P_CatalogName:BCCA&Ne=4000000&D=bike&Ntt=bike&No=14&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&Nty=1&topnav=&s=1

Much better built bike, better warranty.

Their all made by the same company (and its in Vancouver too)

http://www.mordo.com/

[pawlusho]

Could be inadequate wiring in your kitchen. You may have lights, and other appliances overloading the same circuit as your microwave.

My older microwave which has a max wattage of 1450 watts ( Danby has lower max wattage) and is larger than the Danby MV would not trip the circuit breaker. I have re-installed it. Therefore I don t believe it is because I am using too many appliances on the same line.

[pawlusho]

I will test the return policy of CT tomorrow morning when I bring back the Danby microwave which I bought on June 2nd. Three times it has tripped the circuit breaker when the microwave just started to function. It has been used for approx. one week. Will report tomorrow on outcome.

Everything worked well. Explained the reason why I was bringing it back; girl didn t even check the contents of the box. CT return policy is fine for me.

[Vasy]

CT won't return/exchange for bikes, beware!:evil: I was a victim of it.

Yes, they don't return bikes. Here it is clearly stated on every bike they sell. But they will still fix it if it is broken.

[thomsonst780]

Don't mean to hijack, but I think people should rather get this one: http://www.costco.ca/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=10320531&search=bike&Mo=17&cm_re=1_en-_-Top_Left_Nav-_-Top_search&lang=en-CA&Nr=P_CatalogName:BCCA&Sp=S&N=0&whse=BCCA&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntk=Text_Search&Dr=P_CatalogName:BCCA&Ne=4000000&D=bike&Ntt=bike&No=14&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&Nty=1&topnav=&s=1

Much better built bike, better warranty.


+1 way way better bike.

[GuitarMan]

What's better for cycling around a city? A mountain bike or a hybrid bike?

[panny_allroom]

+1 way way better bike.

Why do you think these are better.. I can see that same company makes the Sportchek and Sportmart house brand bikes.

What are some of the main differences between the Schwinn on sale and the Costco bike.

[ahson]

Everything worked well. Explained the reason why I was bringing it back; girl didn t even check the contents of the box. CT return policy is fine for me.


A microwave does not equals to a BIKE! CT will NOT return/exchange for you IF you're bringing back a BIKE!

Everyone, please be aware of it and don't get misleaded by some posters here. :evil:

[pawlusho]

A microwave does not equals to a BIKE! CT will NOT return/exchange for you IF you're bringing back a BIKE!

Everyone, please be aware of it and don't get misleaded by some posters here. :evil:

Please, do not misunderstand me. I was writing about CT s return policy in general and also when it dealt with merchandise which has been used or opened. With regards to CT bike return, I have had no experience.

[Scottie]

my bike is good besides the gears 5 and up something on the sprokets of the gears I think making it grind really bad, they tried to fix it said it was fixed but it wasn't the manger took it for a ride and said he felt it and that it was supose to be like that, I almost punched him out for not returning it.

[Sash[DSL]]

my bike is good besides the gears 5 and up something on the sprokets of the gears I think making it grind really bad, they tried to fix it said it was fixed but it wasn't the manger took it for a ride and said he felt it and that it was supose to be like that, I almost punched him out for not returning it.

Case in point about CT's return policy. We feel for you.

[Stevie Boy Wonder]

What's better for cycling around a city? A mountain bike or a hybrid bike?

Hybrid hands down. Get a cheap hybrid now, then upgrade to a road bike when you outgrow it.

[tidus]

Don't mean to hijack, but I think people should rather get this one: http://www.costco.ca/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=10320531&search=bike&Mo=17&cm_re=1_en-_-Top_Left_Nav-_-Top_search&lang=en-CA&Nr=P_CatalogName:BCCA&Sp=S&N=0&whse=BCCA&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntk=Text_Search&Dr=P_CatalogName:BCCA&Ne=4000000&D=bike&Ntt=bike&No=14&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&Nty=1&topnav=&s=1

Much better built bike, better warranty.

+1 way way better bike.

Why do you think these are better.. I can see that same company makes the Sportchek and Sportmart house brand bikes.

What are some of the main differences between the Schwinn on sale and the Costco bike.

How is the Mongoose a better built bike if it comes shipped to you in a box? You still need to have it assembled either by yourself or at a bike shop.

Parts wise, these are both entry-level department store bikes for recreational use and don't differ all that much. The Mongoose has a "suspension fork" that does little more than add weight to the front. I'd rather go for the rigid fork than have the comfort bike look of the Mongoose. If the Schwinn indeed has an Altus rear derailleur, that is at least better than the Tourney derailleur on the Mongoose.

The Schwinn > The Mongoose, imo.

[panny_allroom]

How is the Mongoose a better built bike if it comes shipped to you in a box? You still need to have it assembled either by yourself or at a bike shop.

Parts wise, these are both entry-level department store bikes for recreational use and don't differ all that much. The Mongoose has a "suspension fork" that does little more than add weight to the front. I'd rather go for the rigid fork than have the comfort bike look of the Mongoose. If the Schwinn indeed has an Altus rear derailleur, that is at least better than the Tourney derailleur on the Mongoose.

The Schwinn > The Mongoose, imo.
Yeah the Schwinn has a Shimano Altus rear derailleur, and a Suntour front one I think.

[bigbug]

What makes this bike "hybrid"?

[MS MSP]

Buy from a local bike shop.

Not only will you have a properly built bike, not one built by some kid at CT.

You will also have free service/maintenance for at least a year as well. Some shops offer 5 year (Bike Depot / Broadway Cycle) or even lifetime (Gears) free service.

[basketball]

How is the Mongoose a better built bike if it comes shipped to you in a box? You still need to have it assembled either by yourself or at a bike shop.

Parts wise, these are both entry-level department store bikes for recreational use and don't differ all that much. The Mongoose has a "suspension fork" that does little more than add weight to the front. I'd rather go for the rigid fork than have the comfort bike look of the Mongoose. If the Schwinn indeed has an Altus rear derailleur, that is at least better than the Tourney derailleur on the Mongoose.

The Schwinn > The Mongoose, imo.

Costco one looks kind a ugly compared to Schwinn (like the dark colour), imo

[rename]

i was looking for the same bike, and got some opinion from fellow RFD'ers here

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=752252

[lorax1284]

no way, ive always had no problems with returns at CT

+1

That is a huge reason why I shop there. I wouldn't be such a loyal customer if they didn't have an excellent return policy.

That said, some stores are franchised, so you may have the bad luck of having a dick-y franchisee in your area... if you press it, and suggest you would escalate to corporate headquarters, they would cave. Read their returns policy on their Website and you'll see they are very reasonable (opened items need packaging in tact etc., but opened-item returns are OK)

[Conky]

what's the best type of bike for riding on rough roads with potholes and rain drains?

Are the bicycle tune up guides on bicycletutor.com any good? If I bought a bike like this I'd rather tune it up myself than pay some bike shop

[doggy]

what's the best type of bike for riding on rough roads with potholes and rain drains?

Are the bicycle tune up guides on bicycletutor.com any good? If I bought a bike like this I'd rather tune it up myself than pay some bike shop

This Schwinn would probably work fine for normal commutes, just put some wider tires on it if you feel unsure about it.

[enko]

Buy from a local bike shop.

Not only will you have a properly built bike, not one built by some kid at CT.

You will also have free service/maintenance for at least a year as well. Some shops offer 5 year (Bike Depot / Broadway Cycle) or even lifetime (Gears) free service.

Again, not possible to get a bike anywhere near this price.

[actng]

some of you guys are getting worked up over CT's return policy because you are talking about different things.

CT's "RETURN POLICY" has two parts: refund (get your money back), exchange/warranty (get store credit / exchange same item).

Their REFUND policy sucks. Once you opened it and they will ask you if you've opened it, they won't let you return it. I've experienced this at multiple stores.

Their WARRANTY/EXCHANGE policy is awesome. I walked in once with two work lights that broke, with NO receipts and they let me exchange for brand new ones. Luck had it for me that week a $30 light was on sale for $9.99 so I exchanged for that one and basically upgraded for free, SANS receipt!

Know what you're talking about before you start bitching.

[Dirty Sanchez]

I bought this bike a few weeks ago at 319. I'll try to do the price protection :|

It's definitely a steal. You can't get close to this at a local bike shop.

First thing I did was re-adjust the breaks, remove the wheel reflectors and put on a front and rear light.

The shifting is pretty decent, bike is not as light as my previous Diamondback from sportchek, but oh well.

There is indeed no front suspension. Riding in the city is fairly harsh with the small tires, but rolls great on the paths!

Yes when I got it, I had to do a few odds and ends on it as well.

Suprisingly my brakes were pretty much spot on, although a week later I did have to pack up the bike and bring it back to CT since it would not go into every gear, and would sometimes pop out of gear during hard peddling. Its still not 100% and will be taking it to a pro shop for final adjustment soon.

But even at a price of $319, I can easily live with that, and wasn't really expecting Tour de France quality or service. :)

[Bolo!]

Could be inadequate wiring in your kitchen. You may have lights, and other appliances overloading the same circuit as your microwave.

Microwaves draw lost of current so you are best to plug the mw into one of the stove's outlets as they come off the 220v breakers which have lots of amperage available. Older homes weren't built with the idea of microwave ovens etc plugged into the same circuit. newer homes have far more dedicated circuits and more juice to draw from.

[petey123]

I'm assuming this model doesn't come in variable sizes? I am medium build @ 5'7 160 lbs, is 18" frame enough?

I'm really consider the bike because my budgets being stretched these days and it looks fine for a recreational cyclist @ 240...how longs the sale on for?

[Winkle]

I think their return policy is very YMMV.

I once returned an electric law mower that was on sale after using it once and discovering that it was horrifically underpowered and could barely cut my grass... I cleaned it up best I could and brought it back on the same day I purchased it, explained to them why I wanted to return it as I found it didn't suit my needs and they took it back no problems.

I suppose its different from a bike since CT will assemble most of their bikes in store and they don't always the best, or even a good job and could screw up and you're kinda left hanging.

[cannon_fodder]

I've never had any issues either. They've always taken any return I've done.

+2 - in fact, we just returned an item last night with no issues. The best example (although this is going back about 4 years) was that we returned one of those flimsy metal canopies you put up in your back yard to give you shade. This thing was blown over and I had to bring it back completely mangled and twisted. FULL REFUND - just as good as Costco.

[cannon_fodder]

I needed to take it on the subway, and it was no problem.

How was it on the tracks? Did you notice it getting bumpy especially when the train was on your tail?

[cannon_fodder]

A microwave does not equals to a BIKE!

Are you sure?

I can sit on a microwave; I can sit on a bike.
The microwave has something round that goes in circles; the bike has something round that goes in circles.
The microwave has different level settings; the bike has different level settings.
The microwave can be quickly stopped; the bike can be quickly stopped.
The microwave requires power to operate; the bike requires power to operate.
The microwave can be picked up and moved; the bike can be picked up and moved.
The microwave can be bought at CT; the bike can be bought at CT.

I'm starting to think that a microwave DOES equal a bike.

[CheapDude]

I think their return policy is very YMMV.

I once returned an electric law mower that was on sale after using it once and discovering that it was horrifically underpowered and could barely cut my grass... I cleaned it up best I could and brought it back on the same day I purchased it, explained to them why I wanted to return it as I found it didn't suit my needs and they took it back no problems.

I suppose its different from a bike since CT will assemble most of their bikes in store and they don't always the best, or even a good job and could screw up and you're kinda left hanging.

+1

Returns on general items depend mainly on the franchisee, some are lax and some are anal about it.

My friend got a bike from them and the receipt was hand written as final sale by the cashier, so no returns on them.

[petey123]

anyone know if sale will still be on by friday?

[tidus]

anyone know if sale will still be on by friday?

It's unlikely because the sales at CT are updated every Friday. However, sometimes sale items are renewed like that Fiskars telescopic weed remover...

[thunderca]

+1

Returns on general items depend mainly on the franchisee, some are lax and some are anal about it.


+1 some store is more picky than other. For the store that won't let me return. I will boycot them and never buy from that store again.

You can always try another store if the first store rejected your return.

[BillyH]

The ad says the bike has front suspension... is this some kind of new "hybrid" suspension? I don't see it in the picture.

[klown]

Just a little two cents:

This is not a Schwinn bike.

Canadian Tire licenses the name from Schwinn but you will not find the bike model on http://www.schwinnbike.com. if you want a a real bike, spend a bit more and buy a Trek or a Giant.

[enko]

Actually, this *IS* a Schwinn bike.

They sold their name a long time ago.

Perhaps you mean this is not the same Schwinn bike as one from 15 years ago, which would be correct.

[klown]

Actually, this *IS* a Schwinn bike.

They sold their name a long time ago.

Perhaps you mean this is not the same Schwinn bike as one from 15 years ago, which would be correct.

If it is a Schwinn bike why isn't is it on the internation Schwinn site? why can't you find any Schwinn bikes anywhere else in Canada like you can other brands like Trek, Giant, Norco,...?

What CT does is equivalent to someone buying the Mercedez-Benz name from them for a specific country and sticking their logos on korean or chinese cars.

[Dirty Sanchez]

If it is a Schwinn bike why isn't is it on the internation Schwinn site? why can't you find any Schwinn bikes anywhere else in Canada like you can other brands like Trek, Giant, Norco,...?

take it easy there buddy, i dont think anyone really cares, if it makes you feel better I'll put a supercycle sticker on it..lolol :lol:

[Dirty Sanchez]

Are you sure?

I can sit on a microwave; I can sit on a bike.
The microwave has something round that goes in circles; the bike has something round that goes in circles.
The microwave has different level settings; the bike has different level settings.
The microwave can be quickly stopped; the bike can be quickly stopped.
The microwave requires power to operate; the bike requires power to operate.
The microwave can be picked up and moved; the bike can be picked up and moved.
The microwave can be bought at CT; the bike can be bought at CT.

I'm starting to think that a microwave DOES equal a bike.

ahahahah, you forgot the most important one,

a microwave makes things hot, when you ride a bicycle - you get hot

[enko]

Schwinn was sold in early 2000.

Ford bought Saab a while ago.. people don't say that a Saab isn't a Saab.

[petey123]

Nevermind the name stamped on the frame...a bike is like a computer..its the parts and how it was put together that counts...

though i guess assembly from ct sucks. thats why ill have it looked over, but i think im going to jump on this one, its been a year+ since i rode a bike

[BillyH]

After you guys are done with the Schwinn bashing, anyone mind commenting on the lack of front suspension... yet the ad says there is front suspension... which one is it?

I zoomed in as far as I could in the picture and did not see front suspension.

[enko]

As already mentioned here, AND on the CT website in the FAQ section.. it does NOT have front suspension.

[petey123]

didnt have it @ markham location but i took a raincheck case i change my mind..

there is NO front suspension, but @ $240 it'd probably be wasted and just add weight

[cannon_fodder]

After you guys are done with the Schwinn bashing, anyone mind commenting on the lack of front suspension... yet the ad says there is front suspension... which one is it?

I zoomed in as far as I could in the picture and did not see front suspension.

When CT's buyers placed the orders with Schwinn for these bikes, they took one look at the price and put the brakes on. They didn't feel they could sell that kind of caliper of a bike at that price to their chain of stores. So they wheeled around and told them to suspend the suspension, as they weren't going to fork over that kind of money. From where Schwinn was seated, they felt affronted and tired, but didn't give CT the gears and decided to peddle their wares at a lowered price. To frame this simply - the only ones who schwin are the bike shops because of all the aftersales service they will have to handle.

[jkoneten]

damn... just saw this thread and was going to pick it up tomorrow at that sale price, but just checked it now and its back to regular price. :S

[panny_allroom]

damn... just saw this thread and was going to pick it up tomorrow at that sale price, but just checked it now and its back to regular price. :S

Check out the new thread about a Costco road bike for $399... even better deal perhaps.

[hagbard]

BE carfull buying bikes from there? I Bought a Hadra 24 speed last year and there was something wrong with it that they could not fix and they wouldn't do anything for me The gears 5 and over grind really bad They would not refund me even though the bike was only 5 days old and I only rode it once and then I noticed it and then took it right back that day, anyways I will never buy a bike from there again.

Canadian Tire isn't interested in maintaining good customer relations. They survive by selling cheap crap at maximum profit. Won't miss them when they go under.

[ertman]

So for $239, you could get that bike from Canadian Tire. Budget for another $75 to have a bike shop assemble and tune it for you. Add in another $25 to get a sealed bottom bracket (these bikes always have loose bearing bottom brackets that will self destruct after about 200km of riding.) So you are looking at $339 plus tax for a bike with basically no warranty.

Or for around $400, you could get this bike from your local bike shop:

http://www.konaworld.com/09_dew_c.cfm

It will come assembled and tuned. It comes in multiple sizes so you will have the correct fit. It will come with a year of free tune ups and a full warranty.

If you only plan on using the bike a few times each year, any bike will do. If you plan on commuting with it, either spend the money on a good set of bike tools so you can keep a cheap bike running, or spend a bit more and get a solid bike from your local bike shop.

[Scottie]

I wish I would have bought my bike from a bike shop.

[Dirty Sanchez]

So for $239, you could get that bike from Canadian Tire. Budget for another $75 to have a bike shop assemble and tune it for you. Add in another $25 to get a sealed bottom bracket (these bikes always have loose bearing bottom brackets that will self destruct after about 200km of riding.) So you are looking at $339 plus tax for a bike with basically no warranty.

Or for around $400, you could get this bike from your local bike shop:

http://www.konaworld.com/09_dew_c.cfm

It will come assembled and tuned. It comes in multiple sizes so you will have the correct fit. It will come with a year of free tune ups and a full warranty.

If you only plan on using the bike a few times each year, any bike will do. If you plan on commuting with it, either spend the money on a good set of bike tools so you can keep a cheap bike running, or spend a bit more and get a solid bike from your local bike shop.

I don't see how the Kona is better in any way, but if you're set on getting it, by all means go for it.

As far as the Schwinn goes, it already comes assembled, but most say it could use some final adjustment and tuning. I found a spot in the Kensington area that will do it for $25 bucks, other places ( Cyclepath ) will charge $40 tops, any more and you're getting ripped off.

Oh and you really need to re-check your facts, the Schwinn does come with a full warranty.

[Dirty Sanchez]

Check out the new thread about a Costco road bike for $399... even better deal perhaps.

I must admit that looks VERY interesting...wish I had seen it earlier :)

P.S. is it $299 or $399?

[ertman]

I don't see how the Kona is better in any way, but if you're set on getting it, by all means go for it.

As far as the Schwinn goes, it already comes assembled, but most say it could use some final adjustment and tuning. I found a spot in the Kensington area that will do it for $25 bucks, other places ( Cyclepath ) will charge $40 tops, any more and you're getting ripped off.

Oh and you really need to re-check your facts, the Schwinn does come with a full warranty.

Pros for the Kona:

- Come in multiple sizes so you can actually get a bike that fits
- Will be assembled and tuned by actual bike mechanics, not some 14 year old kid at Canadian Tire
- Upgradeable to disc brakes (fork and frame are compatible)
- Better crankset and bottom bracket

The rest of the parts are comparable (although I'm not too confident the wheels on the Schwinn are going to stay true for very long.)

Yes, the Schwinn comes with a full "special warranty." Good luck getting the parts you need replaced in a reasonable amount of time, and then hoping that one of the staff at Canadian Tire can figure out how to install it.

[petey123]

dirty sanchez wheres the place i can get the bike tuened for $25? i picked it up, its all i need for 200$ range and im quite happy with it but i want the assembly looked over.

[bandit373]

i must admit that looks very interesting...wish i had seen it earlier :)

p.s. Is it $299 or $399?

$299.

[Conky]

looks like it's on sale again

anybody that bought it last time willing to offer reviews/updates? Many seem to think it will fall apart after a few weeks

[enko]

Had mine over a month, it's holding up fine. Good little bicycle.

[072254f]

I'm just curious when referring to a "hybrid" bike...does that mean it is multi-functional like for roads and mountains bike or hybrid as in has an alternative form of energy?

[hagbard]

I'm just curious when referring to a "hybrid" bike...does that mean it is multi-functional like for roads and mountains bike or hybrid as in has an alternative form of energy?

It runs on coal.

[enhanced]

I'm just curious when referring to a "hybrid" bike...does that mean it is multi-functional like for roads and mountains bike or hybrid as in has an alternative form of energy?

Wikipedia is your friend:

A hybrid bicycle is a bicycle designed for general-purpose utility or commuter cycling on paved and unpaved roads, paths, and trails. Also known under such names as City bike, Cross bike, or Commuter,[1] the hybrid takes design features from both the road bike and mountain bike, with the goal of making a bike for general commuting and transportation.

[Cataha]

I usually try to avoid these threads about cheap department store bikes because of the disagreement that is always the result..

But, on my commute to work today I had to stop by Canadian Tire to pick up some painters tape for a old road frame that I'm restoring for a winter bike... I tried to push my bike into the bike rack, then realized... The bike rack is installed backwards!

Lesson: If a stores employees don't understand the simple concept of installing a bike rack, I would never feel comfortable buying a bike from them.

[bolmsted]

Ford bought Saab a while ago.. people don't say that a Saab isn't a Saab.

GM owns SAAB

[walker9]

NEVER buy a bike at Canadian Tire or any of these big box places. They do not know how to assemble them properly, they are of poor quality and service is non-existent.

Go to a small local shop like Bike Depot or CyclePath, BD has 5 years free tune-up. People at bike stores know their stuff, stock decent models and are helpful. Spend a little more, get a proper bike and see it last. Even @ $500 you can do well.

[ReAder]

NEVER buy a bike at Canadian Tire or any of these big box places. They do not know how to assemble them properly, they are of poor quality and service is non-existent.

Go to a small local shop like Bike Depot or CyclePath, BD has 5 years free tune-up. People at bike stores know their stuff, stock decent models and are helpful. Spend a little more, get a proper bike and see it last. Even @ $500 you can do well.

I bought this bike a few weeks back at the same price from Eglinton/Laird. It seems pretty well assembled -- gears shift smoothly, brakes aligned well. It's also quite speedy on roads.

[sam_b_d]

Any idea how is wall mart's bike's?Their price looks even better than Canadian tire.

[enhanced]

Any idea how is wall mart's bike's?Their price looks even better than Canadian tire.

Avoid like the plague.

[lewdvig]

The only reservation I would have is with the crank and rear coggs.

Those chainrings and the cassette will wear out fast if you are riding 10-20 km/day. Also, unless you know how to wrench a bike, you might want to get a shop to tune it.

If you are really going to ride, spend more and get a Kona Dew (or similar bike). The drivetrain will last longer and it will be set up properly for you, and you will get an extra tune up (typically).

http://bowcycle.com/bc09/bikes/hybrid-comfort/kona-dew.shtml

Sorry, most department store bikes are for fat stupid people that like to feel good about how they are going to get into shape. Or people who don't think their kids lives are worth $500 for a decent bikeshop starter bike (or used bike).

CDN Tire had an ad a couple years ago for a 40 lbs FS bike with cantis where they showed little kids around north shore style drops. That is so wrong.

Don't be like department store people. Save a little longer and get a bike you will love and that will change your life through exercise and community.

I am not saying this as a snob, I worked at a bike shop in University and helped a lot of people get into the sport. I'd hate to see you waste $200-300 bucks and not get the benefits of the sport.

[DanP]

hey lewdvig, i also live in calgary and i'm lookn to get a bike. Live a stonres throw from bowcyble...(im by market mall) Heard really good things about bow cycle...is that Kona dew the bike you'd recomend for a newbie?


The only reservation I would have is with the crank and rear coggs.

Those chainrings and the cassette will wear out fast if you are riding 10-20 km/day. Also, unless you know how to wrench a bike, you might want to get a shop to tune it.

If you are really going to ride, spend more and get a Kona Dew (or similar bike). The drivetrain will last longer and it will be set up properly for you, and you will get an extra tune up (typically).

http://bowcycle.com/bc09/bikes/hybrid-comfort/kona-dew.shtml

Sorry, most department store bikes are for fat stupid people that like to feel good about how they are going to get into shape. Or people who don't think their kids lives are worth $500 for a decent bikeshop starter bike (or used bike).

CDN Tire had an ad a couple years ago for a 40 lbs FS bike with cantis where they showed little kids around north shore style drops. That is so wrong.

Don't be like department store people. Save a little longer and get a bike you will love and that will change your life through exercise and community.

I am not saying this as a snob, I worked at a bike shop in University and helped a lot of people get into the sport. I'd hate to see you waste $200-300 bucks and not get the benefits of the sport.

[voided]

The only reservation I would have is with the crank and rear coggs.

Those chainrings and the cassette will wear out fast if you are riding 10-20 km/day. Also, unless you know how to wrench a bike, you might want to get a shop to tune it.

If you are really going to ride, spend more and get a Kona Dew (or similar bike). The drivetrain will last longer and it will be set up properly for you, and you will get an extra tune up (typically).

http://bowcycle.com/bc09/bikes/hybrid-comfort/kona-dew.shtml

Sorry, most department store bikes are for fat stupid people that like to feel good about how they are going to get into shape. Or people who don't think their kids lives are worth $500 for a decent bikeshop starter bike (or used bike).

CDN Tire had an ad a couple years ago for a 40 lbs FS bike with cantis where they showed little kids around north shore style drops. That is so wrong.

Don't be like department store people. Save a little longer and get a bike you will love and that will change your life through exercise and community.

I am not saying this as a snob, I worked at a bike shop in University and helped a lot of people get into the sport. I'd hate to see you waste $200-300 bucks and not get the benefits of the sport.

+1
As I have said in many threads I still work part time at a small bike shop.
You pointed out the major weak points for sure. The mongoose is actually pretty solid but its the cranks that worry me. But for $35 you can upgrade but add $35 to $40-60 tune up / build charge to any of these and it comes up to big brand price standards.
I actually was impressed with the schwinn when I had one come in for the first time. Until two days later he was back and front wheel was completely warped. No good.

Its clearance time in local bike shops so you could get the Kona Dew for $350 or Kona Humu or Kona Smoke all solid proven commuters. All will come with at least a years service as well. All will share one or two components with those we discussed but the ride destroys the competition.

[voided]

Any idea how is wall mart's bike's?Their price looks even better than Canadian tire.

Makes anyone who still rides an Oryx from when they were awesome cringe. No difference between them and supercycles or ccms all owned by the same company but its the build quality (or lack of) that is scary

[RobbieG]

I bought this bike early June, and absolutely love it. I previously had a Giant Rincon with upgraded components (got stolen), and was worried about buying a department store bike, but I've leared that those worries were unwarranted.

Before you work yourself into a tizzy, note that my sole purpose for having a bike, is to get to work and back every day (Parking downtown is ludicrous!). I'm not an enthusiast, or gearhead by any means. I am however mechanically savvy and can tell you that this bike rides exceptionally well.

After dealing with bike theft I wanted something less expensive that could do the job. Well this is it! It's cheap, does what it's supposed to do, and did I mention how smooth this thing is? :P

The CT I bought it from (Eglinton & Caledonia) hires a bike mechanic to assemble their bikes, so you don't have to worry about some kid putting it together. And the cashier told me, before I paid, that bicycles were non-refundable. No problem... for $252 with taxes, this was a no-brainer for me. Have ridden it to work every day for the past two months and haven't had a single problem with it.

[aragingbull]

The CT I bought it from (Eglinton & Caledonia) hires a bike mechanic to assemble their bikes, so you don't have to worry about some kid putting it together. And the cashier told me, before I paid, that bicycles were non-refundable. No problem... for $252 with taxes, this was a no-brainer for me. Have ridden it to work every day for the past two months and haven't had a single problem with it.

I think you might want to check into that..., I purchased a ccm torrent during the canada day (week) sale at ct. The fellow helping me with the bike said all bikes are refundable within 7 days. I double checked with the returns counter and the csr there confirmed 7 days as well.

[RobbieG]

I think you might want to check into that..., I purchased a ccm torrent during the canada day (week) sale at ct. The fellow helping me with the bike said all bikes are refundable within 7 days. I double checked with the returns counter and the csr there confirmed 7 days as well.

I'm well past 7 days so it doesn't really matter. Just stating what the cashier told me.

[Busybuyer888]

I just rode the CT Schwinn Circuit XST home tonight.

It is a smooth, fast and nimble bike. It is VERY light (I cannot believe this frame and these wheels found its way onto a $320/$250 bike).

This is a ROAD bike. It needs "relatively" smooth pavement. The tires are narrow racing type tires.

The shifters, gears and brakes worked very well. They told me I could bring the bike back in 30 days for tune-up. (Did not expect that from a dept. store bike)

Visually, it is a great looking bike too. (Will be taking off the reflectors and some of the stickers.)

I have to guess that CT was able to negoiate some sort of deal for end-of-line frames and components. A great deal a the original $320. At the $250 sale price, the bike is a steal.

Another benefit is if the bike does get stolen, I won't be heart broken. I lost two expensive bikes 20 years back and my son had his $169 CT Supercycle stolen at the subway station two months ago. (A constant worry in Toronto.)

Perfect bike for a former cycling enthusiast, now family man (on a budget).

Happy riding!

[enko]

Go to a small local shop like Bike Depot or CyclePath, BD has 5 years free tune-up. People at bike stores know their stuff, stock decent models and are helpful. Spend a little more, get a proper bike and see it last. Even @ $500 you can do well.

Wow, really? At DOUBLE the price you can get a better bike then this one? Crazyness!

[petey123]

i've had the bike for a few weeks. i road it on sidewalks and roads, but it really shouldn't be called a hybrid bike, above poster was right this is strictly a road bike. compared to my old supercycles though i really enjoy the ride, much faster and lighter.

however, there is already a bump where the tread meets the rims in one spot...i thought i rode it quite gently, or perhaps it was a defective wheel, or perhaps these wheels really are that delicate.

i took it back in and they wouldnt do exchange- only repair- but they didn't even repair it- they took some air out to make the bump less noticeable, and then the store guy also said treads weren't covered under the warranty?? do you think going to another ct location will be different?

for the price i do like the bike but that bump just annoys the hell out of me..

[Junkguy]

I'm interested in buying this bike for getting around the city. Do you guys think the thin tires are suitable for Toronto's pothole-filled roads and bumpy sidewalks? I have a mountain bike but it's way too slow and heavy.

[serhij]

In Toronto we have such poor roads, that I do not know what kind of bike can survive longer than 2 or 3 years! :cry:

Especially, if you are a proud "fat stupid guy who just started in sport" like me :) So, the question: what do you want to kill for these 2 or 3 years - $200 bike or $400 one? Do you still believe that a bike twice pricier will serve you twice as longer?

BTW, a crank is one of the most sturdy and strong part...;)

[Xcessiv]

Good quality wheels/tires can last very long.

I've been running on wheels like this for 5 years on Quebec roads without any problem or alignment required:
http://xoomgear.com/i/p/l/WHEL-950.jpg

Combined with Michelin Pro Race tires inflated at 120 PSI, not a single flat tire in 3 years.

[hagbard]

Not interested in buying a bike from CT, but like that Kona Dew. I doubt however that I'm going to find one around here.

Trek bikes seem to be in good supply around here, any advice on those? Guess I need a hybrid, though I prefer road bikes (with their sensible handlebars).

[Junkguy]

Thanks for the comments, what about the nature of the thin road-style tires? Would the lack of traction be impractical for everyday use (i.e. in the rain) and are the wheels on this particular bike sturdy enough for like, the cracks between sidewalks? I'm not planning to jump curbs or anything but I just need something fast and practical for getting around campus or the city.

[Xcessiv]

Thin threadless road-style tires are VERY dangerous in the rain. As soon as you hit a painted line or metal surface, it's exactly like riding on ice.

[halo five]

The wheels on this bike worry me.

The problem with low-spoke count wheels like the ones on this bike is that you sacrifice wheel strength. On a high end wheelset, removing spokes makes sense, it reduces the rolling weight of the wheel and the more expensive wheelsets are generally better built and can handle the stress of few spokes.

On a low-end wheelset, spokes are removed for looks and marketing, and the rim has to be made much heavier to compensate. You end up with a heavier, weaker wheel than a comparable 32 or 36 spoke wheel.

Still looks to be not a bad bike for the money, but as others have said, better deals that will last a lot longer at local bike shops for ~$100 more.

[petey123]

Thin threadless road-style tires are VERY dangerous in the rain. As soon as you hit a painted line or metal surface, it's exactly like riding on ice.

sweeeeeet, thanks for the tip

can't wait till it rains!!

[Matrix_dot_ca]

is it still on sale?

[RobbieG]

is it still on sale?

Seriously? Why don't you just click the link on the first post?

[Daijoubu]

Thin threadless road-style tires are VERY dangerous in the rain. As soon as you hit a painted line or metal surface, it's exactly like riding on ice.

Threaded tire's contact area = even less, so they are as sleepery if not more under wet conditions.

Smooth/sleek tire have better trackion period, any patterns, such as reversed thread patterns, only helps repel water away.

Edit: At least, on pavement.

[Tomatolita]

Threaded tire's contact area = even less, so they are as sleepery if not more under wet conditions.

Smooth/sleek tire have better trackion period, any patterns, such as reversed thread patterns, only helps repel water away.

Edit: At least, on pavement.

First why is everyone calling it a thread patter, it's a TREAD pattern.

Secondly, the purpose of treads and or sipping is displace the water from the contact patch. A slick or smooth treat tire does not have this ability to channel water away from the contact patch which results in hydroplaning.

[not4sale]

some of you guys are getting worked up over CT's return policy because you are talking about different things.

CT's "RETURN POLICY" has two parts: refund (get your money back), exchange/warranty (get store credit / exchange same item).

Their REFUND policy sucks. Once you opened it and they will ask you if you've opened it, they won't let you return it. I've experienced this at multiple stores.

Their WARRANTY/EXCHANGE policy is awesome. I walked in once with two work lights that broke, with NO receipts and they let me exchange for brand new ones. Luck had it for me that week a $30 light was on sale for $9.99 so I exchanged for that one and basically upgraded for free, SANS receipt!

Know what you're talking about before you start bitching.



Actually, a refund is easy. When asked if there's anything wrong with the product, just say "I don't like it". Never say the product is broken, because they will automatically tell you to contact the manufacturer for warranty and you will have to go to another CT to do the refund. I have seen this a number of times, especially when the customer doesn't have a good command of the English language. They just get bullied over.

Warranty/Exchange is a wild YMMV nowadays, especially without receipt. As mentioned above, they will try to tell you to contact the manufacturer for warranty if you tell them the product is defective, even if you bought the product just a few days before. I have no experience with returning bikes from CT, so I can't comment. But CT is now basically telling their customers to contact manufacturer themselves to get warranty when they use to do it their customers. Only thing that is still hassle free is their exchange policy, just have to find a store that have what you need replaced.

Overall, CT's new, unwritten, "my-manager-says-so", "I'm the manager-and-that's-our-store-policy" policy sucks, and people have the right to b-tch about them. Just because some people have been successful with their own returns, doesn't mean they're AWESOME. If their policy is so AWESOME, no one will be complaining here. Please don't tell others what they can and can not b-tch about as you do not have ALL the facts. Thanks.


CT's "RETURN POLICY" has two parts: refund (get your money back), exchange/warranty (get store credit / exchange same item).


By the way, you don't get store credit for EXCHANGE/WARRANTY, that's usually given when you want to RETURN without receipt or with gift receipt. And even that is YMMV nowadays without receipt.

For a big name Canadian store, CT has one of the worst and inconsistent policy between stores, period.

[Daijoubu]

First why is everyone calling it a thread patter, it's a TREAD pattern.

Secondly, the purpose of treads and or sipping is displace the water from the contact patch. A slick or smooth treat tire does not have this ability to channel water away from the contact patch which results in hydroplaning.

Hydroplaning is not possible with such tiny contact area, it only happens with car because of the large area.

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/tires.html#hydroplaning

Edit: Actually, it's "possible", but according to that formula:

Reference: FAA-H-8083-3A, Ch 8
knots = 8.6 * sqrt(psi)

It means you'll have to ride at 160km/h with 110psi tires if I understand it correctly lol
I mean, you can still skid for all other reasons (such as on wet paint strips and metal like you said), but not when you're on (clean) pavement.
Oil can also be a *****.

[bandit373]

I was able to return the bike after I saw the Costco one and decided to go with that. The CSR told me as long as it was within 7 days and not ridden. I had no issue returning the bike. All stickers etc... were still in-tact and she returned it for me without hassle.

[jande9]

Hydroplaning is not possible with such tiny contact area, it only happens with car because of the large area.

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/tires.html#hydroplaning

Edit: Actually, it's "possible", but according to that formula:

Reference: FAA-H-8083-3A, Ch 8
knots = 8.6 * sqrt(psi)

It means you'll have to ride at 160km/h with 110psi tires if I understand it correctly lol


Perhaps hydroplaning is not possible on a bike but a lightly treaded tire still grips better than a completely slick tire in the rain.

On a normal piece of pavement with a fine surface texture there isn't any difference, but when you cross a painted line or a manhole cover the slick tire will lose most of its traction while a treaded tire will retain most of its traction. The tread edges help the grip plus there is less actual rubber contacting the road so the contact pressure is higher which increases the friction.

Water is a lubricant for rubber so you need to press through this lubricant to keep the friction up.

I commuted year round in Vancouver for 10 years and as soon as my tread would start to get worn off I would notice the bike starting to skip over painted lines when braking in the rain.

[-=phelan=-]

isn't this deal expired?

[072254f]

I am selling a brand new Mongoose bicycle (still in box) that I won from a contest. It is worth about $500 plus tax and delivery. Please contact me with your best offer. All reasonable offers will be considered. A picture of what the bike should look like once assembled can be found through the link below as well as details about the bike.

http://www.sears.ca/gp/product/B0026S71QK?extid=bazaarvoice_en_QA_PSVP_06270090_a dult

[hagbard]

I am selling a brand new Mongoose bicycle (still in box) that I won from a contest. It is worth about $500 plus tax and delivery. Please contact me with your best offer. All reasonable offers will be considered. A picture of what the bike should look like once assembled can be found through the link below as well as details about the bike.

http://www.sears.ca/gp/product/B0026S71QK?extid=bazaarvoice_en_QA_PSVP_06270090_a dult

Wrong forum newbie.

[Thundercloud]

I am selling a brand new Mongoose bicycle (still in box) that I won from a contest. It is worth about $500 plus tax and delivery. Please contact me with your best offer. All reasonable offers will be considered. A picture of what the bike should look like once assembled can be found through the link below as well as details about the bike.

http://www.sears.ca/gp/product/B0026S71QK?extid=bazaarvoice_en_QA_PSVP_06270090_a dultYes! For once I can postcrap without breaking rules.

HA! He's asking for MSRP? Good luck!

Rear cassettes, cranks, and front derailleur are noname, that seat is uncomfortable and weights a ton, and the riding position is way too upright to my liking. It also says new york fries and such on the frame (I've assembled one).

saving grace is that bike is relatively light-ish and has 24 gears, kendra tires, shimano brakes, rf shifters.

Anyway, wrong forum. That bike might worth $200.

[just_For_ipod]

Thin threadless road-style tires are VERY dangerous in the rain. As soon as you hit a painted line or metal surface, it's exactly like riding on ice.

like a streetcar track.

Note to all: Do not attempt to make a left turn across streetcar tracks while it is raining if you are on a bike with thin road bike styled wheels :!:


And yes, this deal is dead...for now.

[enko]

Front wheel got stolen yesterday. Anyoen know where I can buy one and not spent half the value of the bike? ottawa...

[wunderkind]

Schwinn was sold in early 2000.

Ford bought Saab a while ago.. people don't say that a Saab isn't a Saab.


The parent company for Schwinn is Dorel Industries. This company also owns other bike companies like Sugoi and Canondale.
BTW, GM was the owner of Saab.

Also the poster about that Costco Mongoose is an inferior product to the Schwinn. Just because it has front shocks does not make it better. Often times other parts will be compromised. The Schwinn XST has Shimano Altus rear derailleur which is better than the Tourney.

I quite like this bike at $239. Not sure if the 18" frame is a fit for my 5'7" height. Is the stem adjustable?

[RobbieG]

I quite like this bike at $239. Not sure if the 18" frame is a fit for my 5'7" height. Is the stem adjustable?

I'm 5'7" and am riding the bike quite comfortably. Took some adjustment because my previous mountain bike was a bit bigger, but I've learned to like it....a lot.

[wunderkind]

Pros for the Kona:

- Come in multiple sizes so you can actually get a bike that fits
- Will be assembled and tuned by actual bike mechanics, not some 14 year old kid at Canadian Tire
- Upgradeable to disc brakes (fork and frame are compatible)
- Better crankset and bottom bracket


As far as I can tell, the bike is already fully assembled. If you want more assurance, just wheel it to an LBS for further adjustment. Heck, even a brand new Cervelo needs adjustment after breaking in. Hence most LBS offers 1 year free maintenance.
This bike is a road bike with a flat bar. It is intended for road use. Disc brakes and hydraulic suspension is not important on road bikes. What is this stupid obsession about such devices that only add weight? Unless you are bombing off road or going down hill, those items will be useless. In which case even the Kona Dew is inadequate. Last check Lance Armstrong and Alberto Contador's bike still rode on regular brakes and rigid forks. Oh the pit. :rolleyes:
Now I am not against buying from LBS. In fact two of our current bikes are from an LBS. Good LBS offers other benefits like bike fitting, choices, after sales support etc...However I also am not afraid to buy from a CT as long as I know what to expect. This schwinn represents simple cycling. Nothing more. It is also very light. And you will be hard pressed to find a light bike for double the price at any LBS.

Like its Motomaster tires which are sourced from old Uniroyal technology (owned by Michelin), I suspect this Schwinn model is and old bike model that Schwinn no longer wants to carry on its key offerings. Maybe it's a 10yr old design.
It sure doesn't scare me one bit. If the sale comes again, I will likely buy it and use it as my commuter instead of risking my $700 Norco.