PM @ CT - CIL Liquid Weed 'n Feed For $6.45

[vaibhav]

This deal is for Winnipeg and Ontario only.

CIL Liquid Weed 'n Feed is available at McDiarmid Lumber for $6.45. Price Match it at Canadian Tire and get an additonal $0.65 as CT Money. The price at CT is a whopping $16.99.

BTW, it is OOS at McDiarmid Pembina so getting it from CT makes sense even if you are not interested in getting CT money.

http://www.mcdiarmid.com/promotion/?id=urban&page=01

http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/2/OutdoorLiving/FertilizersGrassSeed/LiquidFertilizers/PRD~0592396P/CIL%2BLiquid%2BWeed%2B%2527n%2BFeed.jsp
If the link doesn't work try to search for Product No. Product #59-2396-8

[Inno]

I thought pesticides for residential lawns and gardens were banned in Ontario?

[bkushner]

Too bad no stores in Alberta

[Trifid]

Doubtful you'll find this in Ontario as it contains "2,4-D" which is part of the new Provincial Cosmetic Pesticide ban:


GreenUp® Liquid Weed & Feed 15-2-3 (http://www.cil.nu-gro.com/products/product_e.php?prodID=523&category=1)

Contents:
Available Phosphoric Acid (P205) - 2.0%
Soluble Potash (K20) - 3.0%
2,4-D (present as amine)(actual) - 0.94%
Mecoprop-P (present as amine)(actual) - 0.47%
Dicamba (present as amine)(actual) - 0.09%

For our friends in Manitoba, enjoy your weed free lawns and parks (while you can) as ours look like hell --- and are making my allergies 200% worse than normal (I think that the Reactin lobbyists were behind this whole scheme) :evil:

[dtrader69]

off topic here....how do i get rid of weeds without category 7 or roundup? i have this thing where it pulls the weeds out but they just keep coming back because i live close to a park and neighbours that dont pull their weeds out...

[bkushner]

2 AM weed and feed FTW.

[wiebecj]

off topic here....how do i get rid of weeds without category 7 or roundup? i have this thing where it pulls the weeds out but they just keep coming back because i live close to a park and neighbours that dont pull their weeds out...

drive to Manitoba and get some of this stuff :-) Neighbors on both sides have seas of dandelions and i have a nice green lawn (environment be d@mned i guess...)

[dtrader69]

drive to Manitoba and get some of this stuff :-) Neighbors on both sides have seas of dandelions and i have a nice green lawn (environment be d@mned i guess...)

you can still get the stuff in ontario but you cant use it for residential purposes except to control poison ivy...

you can read the article here:
http://blog.douggreensgarden.com/ontario-pesticide-regulations/

[Inno]

Actually many people are allergic to grass. Very few have allergies to dandelions. So more dandelions, less grass is good news for allergy sufferers.

I have turned my front lawn into perennials, bark chips and flagstones. Much less work than lawn anyhow and looks more attractive IMO. We get lots of compliments.

[bkushner]

"It looked like poison ivy, officer"

[dtrader69]

Actually many people are allergic to grass. Very few have allergies to dandelions. So more dandelions, less grass is good news for allergy sufferers.

I have turned my front lawn into perennials, bark chips and flagstones. Much less work than lawn anyhow and looks more attractive IMO. We get lots of compliments.

dandlions are a type of weed....there are also ragweeds and crab grass which is also not controlled in parks right now....allergy sufferers hates ragweeds...

mind posting some pics of your garden? i want some ideas for my lawn

[CanadianMoFo]

drive to Manitoba and get some of this stuff :-) Neighbors on both sides have seas of dandelions and i have a nice green lawn (environment be d@mned i guess...)

I asked my cousin in Winnipeg to check to see and he says they banned pesticides a couple years ago too. Checked Quebec too, same thing.

I don't know where to score my lawns 2-4D fix now.

CM

[Trifid]

off topic here....how do i get rid of weeds without category 7 or roundup? i have this thing where it pulls the weeds out but they just keep coming back because i live close to a park and neighbours that dont pull their weeds out...

Corn Gluten Meal in liquid form is available and working for me. I picked up some LiquiGold at Rona for about $40 and it was enough to cover my Lawn. It prevents any seed from germinating for ~6 weeks. I sprayed it just as the Dandelions were going white and don't have many. Liquid form is apparently better as the solid form attracts birds who eat it (since its a Corn byproduct).

Over seeding and coring in the early spring will help as the new grass will out compete the weeds if the lawn is properly aerated - just make sure to give the grass seeds a few weeks before using the Gluten. As soon as you see small grass leaves, you're good.

Another option if you keep having problems is to establish a natural grass and clover lawn. (http://www.versicolor.ca/lawns/docs/clover.html)

The real problem is the parks, as not only are they overrun with Dandelions, they goldenrod and other allergenic weeds are growing unchecked and the size for this time of year is ridiculous.

[Eldorado]

Doubtful you'll find this in Ontario as it contains "2,4-D" which is part of the new Provincial Cosmetic Pesticide ban:


GreenUp® Liquid Weed & Feed 15-2-3 (http://www.cil.nu-gro.com/products/product_e.php?prodID=523&category=1)

Contents:
Available Phosphoric Acid (P205) - 2.0%
Soluble Potash (K20) - 3.0%
2,4-D (present as amine)(actual) - 0.94%
Mecoprop-P (present as amine)(actual) - 0.47%
Dicamba (present as amine)(actual) - 0.09%

For our friends in Manitoba, enjoy your weed free lawns and parks (while you can) as ours look like hell --- and are making my allergies 200% worse than normal (I think that the Reactin lobbyists were behind this whole scheme) :evil:

I guess you prefer drinking poison that eventually works it's way into the water system?

There are more natural ways to take care of the weeds - pull them, over seed.. my lawn looks great, pesticide free

[82]

does Weed n Feed has expiry or best-before date?

Should I water before/after fertilizing?

This deal is for Winnipeg and Ontario only.

CIL Liquid Weed 'n Feed is available at McDiarmid Lumber for $6.45. Price Match it at Canadian Tire and get an additonal $0.65 as CT Money. The price at CT is a whopping $16.99.

BTW, it is OOS at McDiarmid Pembina so getting it from CT makes sense even if you are not interested in getting CT money.

http://www.mcdiarmid.com/promotion/?id=urban&page=01

http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/2/OutdoorLiving/FertilizersGrassSeed/LiquidFertilizers/PRD~0592396P/CIL%2BLiquid%2BWeed%2B%2527n%2BFeed.jsp
If the link doesn't work try to search for Product No. Product #59-2396-8

[dtrader69]

Corn Gluten Meal in liquid form is available and working for me. I picked up some LiquiGold at Rona for about $40 and it was enough to cover my Lawn. It prevents any seed from germinating for ~6 weeks. I sprayed it just as the Dandelions were going white and don't have many. Liquid form is apparently better as the solid form attracts birds who eat it (since its a Corn byproduct).

Over seeding and coring in the early spring will help as the new grass will out compete the weeds if the lawn is properly aerated - just make sure to give the grass seeds a few weeks before using the Gluten. As soon as you see small grass leaves, you're good.

Another option if you keep having problems is to establish a netural grass and clover lawn. (http://www.versicolor.ca/lawns/docs/clover.html)

The real problem is the parks, as not only are they overrun with Dandelions, they goldenrod and other allergenic weeds are growing unchecked and the size for this time of year is ridiculous.

thanks for the tip! i will give that a try!

[sc888888]

You can try GreenEarch Ecoturf at CT for $25

http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/2/OutdoorLiving/FertilizersGrassSeed/WaterSoluableFertilizer/PRD~0592303P/Green%2BEarth%2BEcoTurf%2BBio%2BFertilizer.jsp

[Trifid]

I guess you prefer drinking poison that eventually works it's way into the water system?

There are more natural ways to take care of the weeds - pull them, over seed.. my lawn looks great, pesticide free

I have no problem a cosmetic pesticide ban (see my subsequent post), as long as Cities took appropriate actions to inhibit weeds in parks and recreation areas so allergy and asthma sufferers will not be made to suffer and, perhaps, die.

It would appear the Cities in the GTA (amongst others I am sure) are using this ban a means of completely removing weed control costs from their budgets as opposed to implementing alternatives such as gluten.

[babinni]

Resist the urge to bash. I want a weed free lawn. And I have the tools to remove them but the weeds are definitely winning the war.

How does one get their hands on some of the "banned in Ontario" pesticide/herbicides.
Online?
or any issue if we drive over to NY state and bring some back?

[craftsman]

I'm just waiting for some one in a province that doesn't have a pesticide ban to start up a website and ship the stuff to the provinces that do... I think there should be good money in it.

[sbobcat]

Actually many people are allergic to grass. Very few have allergies to dandelions. So more dandelions, less grass is good news for allergy sufferers.

I have turned my front lawn into perennials, bark chips and flagstones. Much less work than lawn anyhow and looks more attractive IMO. We get lots of compliments.
Could you post a pic, I am very interseting the less work part.

Tia
Vince

[rambokid]

Could you post a pic, I am very interseting the less work part.

Tia
Vince+1, I am lazy too :cheesygri

[dtrader69]

I'm just waiting for some one in a province that doesn't have a pesticide ban to start up a website and ship the stuff to the provinces that do... I think there should be good money in it.

not really...you can still get the stuff IN the actual province that has the ban (i.e. farmers / commercially used)...it is just illegal to use it for personal reasons...

[Inno]

+1, I am lazy too :cheesygri

I can take a pic but is there a way to insert in a message here, without loading it up on an external site first?

[YLSF]

No you have to put it up on an external site. Easiest to use is probably imageshack.us It will give you a "hotlink" url and you can just post that in your message and the picture will show up.

We use Weedman at work to come in and treat the lawn using their 5 step natural program (forget the name of it exactly) and it does a pretty good job. There is a big gap between our lawn and the neighbour (who has a lot of dandelions) but still the grass looks pretty good on our property.

[dtrader69]

wicked....didn't know about this! my personal p0rn storage! :)

[Captain Snazzypants]

Resist the urge to bash. I want a weed free lawn. And I have the tools to remove them but the weeds are definitely winning the war.

How does one get their hands on some of the "banned in Ontario" pesticide/herbicides.
Online?
or any issue if we drive over to NY state and bring some back?

Sorry, can't resist. There really is no defense for the use of these chemicals just to have a thick lawn (temporarily). They are a serious threat to people (especially small children and the unborn) as well as to pets and other animals. And when they seep into the water table, it affects everyone around you.

If you think about it, you're losing the war with the weeds because they belong and the grass doesn't. Which is native to the area you live in? You can try to beat back nature and carve out your own space as you see fit, but get off your asses and do it the old fashioned way. :evil:

[dtrader69]

Sorry, can't resist. There really is no defense for the use of these chemicals just to have a thick lawn (temporarily). They are a serious threat to people (especially small children and the unborn) as well as to pets and other animals. And when they seep into the water table, it affects everyone around you.

If you think about it, you're losing the war with the weeds because they belong and the grass doesn't. Which is native to the area you live in? You can try to beat back nature and carve out your own space as you see fit, but get off your asses and do it the old fashioned way. :evil:

i thought all u knew is video games....i am changing my prespective of you!
cheers....can't agree more! :razz:

[Inno]

i thought all u knew is video games....i am changing my prespective of you!
cheers....can't agree more! :razz:

Me too!!

I've had several family members die of cancer. Can't help thinking that all the carcinogens that we dump into our environment had something to do with. You can't see your green lawn from a hospital bed.

[dtrader69]

Me too!!

I've had several family members die of cancer. Can't help thinking that all the carcinogens that we dump into our environment had something to do with. You can't see your green lawn from a hospital bed.

where's ur pic u promised? :cheesygri

[Inno]

where's ur pic u promised? :cheesygri

My house is 8 km from my office. My zoom lens is not that powerful!! If it is not too dark when I get home I will try to take a pic.

[TerryT]

214.photobucket.com/albums/cc79/kambc/?action=view&current=MVI_4829.flv

My 35 sec. video of Elfin Thyme starting to grow between stepping stones.

[dtrader69]

214.photobucket.com/albums/cc79/kambc/?action=view&current=MVI_4829.flv

My 35 sec. video of Elfin Thyme starting to grow between stepping stones.

cool stuff, nice landscaping!
although it reminds me super mario brothers with those platforms.

[Inno]

OK, here is what I have done to eliminate grass:

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=163&pictureid=440


http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=163&pictureid=439

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=163&pictureid=438

[dtrader69]

how long did it take for you to dig up your old grass/soil and put your rocks in?

[Inno]

how long did it take for you to dig up your old grass/soil and put your rocks in?

Actually I paid landscapers to do that part of the job. Not the RFD way I know, but I didn't have the time or strength. Those rocks are heavy!

However, real estate "experts" say that money spent landscaping is one of the best investments in increasing property value, curb appeal, etc. We do get a lot of positive comments from people walking their dogs, etc.

[Captain Snazzypants]

My 35 sec. video of Elfin Thyme starting to grow between stepping stones.

Just apply some white vinegar and the stuff growing between your stones will go away.

. We do get a lot of positive comments from people walking their dogs, etc.

And the dogs are probably less likely to whiz on the property since they prefer lawns :twisted:

[Inno]

Just apply some white vinegar and the stuff growing between your stones will go away.



And the dogs are probably less likely to whiz on the property since they prefer lawns :twisted:

Yeah, and the smaller ones have trouble climbing up on the rocks!

[jperras]

Just apply some white vinegar and the stuff growing between your stones will go away.

Did you watch the video? The intention is to grow the Elfin Thyme between the stones, not eliminate it.

[khulit]

can't find any stock in Winnipeg... either they hid it or it's sold out.... The web status for the store says in stock, so I guess they hid it....

[fredsmith]

I don't know if you've been following, but Dow Chemical is planning to sue Canada and the provinces for banning pesticides because it is not legal to so so under the NAFTA rules.

They claim that there is NO danger when pesticides and herbicides are used responsibly.

Now, I for one believed (as in past tense) the green hype about how all this stuff is bad for the environment until I read an article from CTV and the CBC which quoted the David Suzuki Foundation as CONFIRMING that this claim was true.

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"This is a completely unnecessary source of chemical exposure. It just makes
sense that in a world where we are surrounded by so many chemicals to ban
unnecessary ones."

Unnecessary?

Beer is 'unnecessary', Wine is 'unnecessary' and so on. I could go on forever.

But if the REAL environmentalists can only come up with the fact that we should ban this stuff because it is 'unnecessary', then why do we buy into all this crap?

I've also been told that we should let our lawns be 'more natural'.

Well, newsflash; The 'natural' state of the land around here is light mixed forest. Lawns and gardens are almost as foreign as asphalt.

[spinbot]

I had weeds growing in my gravel driveway ( long second driveway to my back workshop ). I killed them with salt :) I used a couple big bags of water softener salt ( as it's fairly cheap ) and spread it all through the driveway. It killed them all! :)

Warning... salt kills EVERYTHING green, so it wouldn't be useful for your lawn.

[fredsmith]

I had weeds growing in my gravel driveway ( long second driveway to my back workshop ). I killed them with salt :) I used a couple big bags of water softener salt ( as it's fairly cheap ) and spread it all through the driveway. It killed them all! :)

Warning... salt kills EVERYTHING green, so it wouldn't be useful for your lawn.

Which, of course explains why road departments toss millions of tons of the stuff on our roads every winter.

[bryan35]

can't find any stock in Winnipeg... either they hid it or it's sold out.... The web status for the store says in stock, so I guess they hid it....


Canadian Tire won't price match because they know McDer. is out of stock.

[khulit]

Canadian Tire won't price match because they know McDer. is out of stock.

Even so, CT probably just hid their stock just in case someone comes in with the McDiarmid flyer...

[vaibhav]

Canadian Tire won't price match because they know McDer. is out of stock.

I lucked out. When I went to purcahse the item, they did not have any in stock. But there was a helpful CSR who searched for it and bought me 3 cans and told me that there were 89 still in stock. I had gone to the Kenaston CT. Fortunately, they did not check the inventory at McDer.

[khulit]

I lucked out. When I went to purcahse the item, they did not have any in stock. But there was a helpful CSR who searched for it and bought me 3 cans and told me that there were 89 still in stock. I had gone to the Kenaston CT. Fortunately, they did not check the inventory at McDer.

Thats where I went yesterday... they even called the manager and he LIED to me saying that their stock went very fast and they ran out... I wonder if I can complain somewhere about this...

[bryan35]

Even so, CT probably just hid their stock just in case someone comes in with the McDiarmid flyer...


Had plenty in stock @ St Boniface but they know McDer. is out of stock. McDer. should be getting more in on Friday.

[vaibhav]

Thats where I went yesterday... they even called the manager and he LIED to me saying that their stock went very fast and they ran out... I wonder if I can complain somewhere about this...

Prior to going to the Kenaston store, I went to St. Boniface and there I found out that the Kenaston store had 91 in stock. Did somebody check their inventory?

[khulit]

Prior to going to the Kenaston store, I went to St. Boniface and there I found out that the Kenaston store had 91 in stock. Did somebody check their inventory?

The Manager was the one who told me no stock and even claim that they are on order... pretty suspicious that they ran out when they are hidden (not on display)... obviously they are not wanting to sell it for cheap... if McDiarmid can afford to sell it at less than $7, CT is definitely screwing people over by refusing to sell it at all...

I guess I'll boycott CT because of this... not a big deal for them anyway as I never shop at CT in the first place... this experience just reminds me of why I never patronize CT...

[bryan35]

St B had lots on the shelf. They just wouldn't price match because McDiarmid is out of stock. Don't know why they would hide it if they aren't price matching?