View Full Version : Please help! UofT St. George - Petitions
Waggamuffin
May 27th, 2009, 03:29 AM
Hey guys! I need some serious help and/or insight with my situation, so please if you have any information, I'd really appreciate it. :)
I have a full year course with a final grade, that will put me on a 1 year suspension for the next school year. So with this grade, I can't go back to school for a year, but without it, I can. I've read the instructions on the U of T Arts & Science website, saying that I can't withdraw from a course past the last day of classes.
Now, I was wondering if anyone had any experiences with trying to petition for a late withdrawal from a course that's already ended? Do I even have a chance? :(
OR...would it be wiser to try to petition the suspension? does anyone have any experiences with that?
I'm stressing out so hard, seriously can't even sleep, so please lemme know if you know anything about this! :)
HBP
May 27th, 2009, 03:50 AM
Hey guys! I need some serious help and/or insight with my situation, so please if you have any information, I'd really appreciate it. :)
I have a full year course with a final grade, that will put me on a 1 year suspension for the next school year. So with this grade, I can't go back to school for a year, but without it, I can. I've read the instructions on the U of T Arts & Science website, saying that I can't withdraw from a course past the last day of classes.
Now, I was wondering if anyone had any experiences with trying to petition for a late withdrawal from a course that's already ended? Do I even have a chance? :(
OR...would it be wiser to try to petition the suspension? does anyone have any experiences with that?
I'm stressing out so hard, seriously can't even sleep, so please lemme know if you know anything about this! :)
Hate to say this, but neither of your petitions will work. You would need to have like 3 deaths in your family and overcome cancer for a petition to go through at UofT.
I forget the site, but you can read up on petitions/appeals filed at UT and 99.9% of them get denied.
Your best option, if it is possible, would be to beg to the prof of the course to increase your mark (if you're only missing a GPA bracket). Other than that, you're going to have to suck it up and take the year loss. Learn from it mate, anyone who is able to get into UTSG Arts/Sci should be able to keep a 1.5cGPA.
HBP
May 27th, 2009, 03:56 AM
Also, if you knew you were in rough shape why didn't you do a late withdrawal before you wrote the exam!!
fdhw
May 27th, 2009, 04:29 AM
sorry but you aren't utsg material.
since you didn't mention any personal issues I'm taking the liberty of being direct with you
withdrawing from a course that you already finished? That doesn't even make sense. Ask for exam remark since professors do not have authority to change your exam mark, only exam reviewing committee has.
xOnic_
May 27th, 2009, 09:19 AM
Unfortunately you can only do a late-withdrawal from a course before the course is finished. Since you already finished the course and got your final mark, your best bet is to talk to academic counselor at your registrar, but there is very little they can do at this point to help remove that grade.
q1w2e3r4
May 27th, 2009, 09:40 AM
>:(
jhan
May 27th, 2009, 10:49 AM
From what I recall, you have 1 week to withdraw after your final lecture. You wrote the exam and got a final grade, so they can't change anything. You really should've withdrawn earlier or deferred the exam. If you can avoid suspension by getting extra 2-3%.. beg the prof. If not, serve your suspension and think hard about your future in UTSG.
looking_for_deals_always
May 29th, 2009, 10:31 AM
sorry but you aren't utsg material.
since you didn't mention any personal issues I'm taking the liberty of being direct with you
withdrawing from a course that you already finished? That doesn't even make sense. Ask for exam remark since professors do not have authority to change your exam mark, only exam reviewing committee has.
What are the chances of exam reviewing committee increasing your marks? Can it result in a decrease in marks as well?
Phlegmbot
May 30th, 2009, 12:29 AM
At U of T, I once petitioned an exam. I wrote the exam, but was very sick during the preceding week, severely impacting my studying. I had a doctor's note.
They denied my petition.
Good luck!
Parth
May 30th, 2009, 11:56 AM
withdrawing from a course that you already finished? That doesn't even make sense. Ask for exam remark since professors do not have authority to change your exam mark, only exam reviewing committee has.
The professor does have hte power to change your mark. He just has to submit a form to arts and sciences.
What are the chances of exam reviewing committee increasing your marks? Can it result in a decrease in marks as well?
Of course it can decrease as well. Risky and not worth it unless you know they made a mistake. If you want more marks, your best bet is going to each one of your profs and getting them for an extra % or 2 to get you to the next GPA. Ask EVERY prof and hopefully enough help you out to get you over whatever cGPA you need.
At U of T, I once petitioned an exam. I wrote the exam, but was very sick during the preceding week, severely impacting my studying. I had a doctor's note.
Of course they denied your petition. Once you write an exam there is almost nothing you can do it get out of whatever mark you receive. No one forced you to write that exam, you chose to. If you never wrote the exam and petitioned to write a deferred exam then your petition would have went through no problem.
zzz3
May 30th, 2009, 12:52 PM
Hey guys! I need some serious help and/or insight with my situation, so please if you have any information, I'd really appreciate it. :)
I have a full year course with a final grade, that will put me on a 1 year suspension for the next school year. So with this grade, I can't go back to school for a year, but without it, I can. I've read the instructions on the U of T Arts & Science website, saying that I can't withdraw from a course past the last day of classes.
Now, I was wondering if anyone had any experiences with trying to petition for a late withdrawal from a course that's already ended? Do I even have a chance? :(
OR...would it be wiser to try to petition the suspension? does anyone have any experiences with that?
I'm stressing out so hard, seriously can't even sleep, so please lemme know if you know anything about this! :)
Im not sure what college you are in or who your counselor is, but i managed to use one of the 3 withdrawals (LWD??). I was given the form in july (after exams) and handed it in september (prof signed it with no problems) :o, but i still managed to get my mark dropped, showed up as wdr. Good luck!
HockeyFan
May 30th, 2009, 02:25 PM
The only other suggestion I have for you is to register for a summer class or two that are dead easy and then ace them. That will pull up your average for the term. It's probably too late for the first summer term, but you can register for any courses that are from July-Aug. Just make sure you get good marks in them. THat's you're only hope of avoiding suspension.
shannn
May 30th, 2009, 02:31 PM
I doubt you'll be able to successfully petition. Sorry, but just being honest.
zzz3
May 30th, 2009, 02:40 PM
The only other suggestion I have for you is to register for a summer class or two that are dead easy and then ace them. That will pull up your average for the term. It's probably too late for the first summer term, but you can register for any courses that are from July-Aug. Just make sure you get good marks in them. THat's you're only hope of avoiding suspension.
+1
Yeah if your on probation go to summer school (jul-aug) and make sure your sessional gpa is above 60 (:confused:) and that should be easy to do.
Waggamuffin
May 30th, 2009, 05:40 PM
Im not sure what college you are in or who your counselor is, but i managed to use one of the 3 withdrawals (LWD??). I was given the form in july (after exams) and handed it in september (prof signed it with no problems) :o, but i still managed to get my mark dropped, showed up as wdr. Good luck!
Oh my gosh!! really?? Well, I'm a part of New College...which college helped you do that? Could you elaborate on the process?
I'm going in to see my academic counselor on Monday, is there anything I should expect or bring up?
Please, if you don't mind, it would help a lot if you could let me know. :o Please PM me if you don't want to discuss it here. :)
Waggamuffin
May 30th, 2009, 05:42 PM
The only other suggestion I have for you is to register for a summer class or two that are dead easy and then ace them. That will pull up your average for the term. It's probably too late for the first summer term, but you can register for any courses that are from July-Aug. Just make sure you get good marks in them. THat's you're only hope of avoiding suspension.
Oh! So....well, right now, I think I'm considered suspended. Can I still take summer courses? I've never taken them, so I'm not sure how it counts into my cGPA...probably the same way as regular school year courses, right?
Phlegmbot
May 30th, 2009, 11:32 PM
Of course they denied your petition. Once you write an exam there is almost nothing you can do it get out of whatever mark you receive. No one forced you to write that exam, you chose to. If you never wrote the exam and petitioned to write a deferred exam then your petition would have went through no problem.
There are no deferred exams in engineering. They just assign you a grade on the exam. Apparently they believe that I am a ******, because the grade they gave me on the exam that I missed reflects that.
On this second exam, I managed to write it, but my studying was severely impacted. They told me that they rejected the petition because I did well on the exam. That's a pretty crappy reason.
Anyway, keep us up to date, OP.
RT Wolf
May 31st, 2009, 08:07 AM
Have you talked to your registrar? They're generally nice, empathic and on the student's side. Ask them your questions. Call your registrar and book an appointment with someone about academic issues.
I've gotten a few late withdrawls without academic penalty, but I have personal issues and I didn't write exams. The one course I did write the exam for, I didn't get the late withdrawl (and I didn't appeal it...to remind me to not be so stupid in the future).
Just apply and see what happens.
HBP
May 31st, 2009, 09:43 PM
Oh! So....well, right now, I think I'm considered suspended. Can I still take summer courses? I've never taken them, so I'm not sure how it counts into my cGPA...probably the same way as regular school year courses, right?
You can't register for summer. Standing is assessed at the end of the Winter session.
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