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3121983
Apr 12th, 2009, 07:52 PM
I wanna go with shaw cable internet. right now i don't have that great credit rating so no credit cards. mmm... how will I pay? I get my bank cheque deposited in my bank account from work.
Can I write the shaw company checks or do online monthly transfers when the bill is due? right now i'm just leeching off neighbors internet cause its free. now that i have enough i wanna sign up for shaw extreme-i.
last thing.. how long does install take? never had technician in my apartment. kinda worried it might take helluva long time

tep
Apr 12th, 2009, 08:45 PM
1. you don't need a credit card. you can pay it like any other bill: online, at the bank or authorized location.
2. depends on the your wiring. it can take 15 minutes or a few hours

Jon Lai
Apr 12th, 2009, 08:51 PM
Just apply for a CC? Problem solved.

bubble.tea
Apr 12th, 2009, 09:17 PM
Depending on the policy of MEDIUM of security deposit (which you might very well be liable to put down if your credit is as bad as you say it is) you might need to pay it with a credit card.

The GOOD thing, is that you can use someone elses credit card. So best case scenario...if they want $200 security deposit, ask a friend/relative/whatever to pay it with their CC and pay them back (or not, if you're that kind of a friend/relative LOL). The monthly bills you can pay in one of any other medium: Cash, Cheque, online, telebanking choice.

For Example..>Rogers Wireless...if you are needed to pay a security deposit for an activation it can ONLY be paid via CreditCard (though some stores can apparently do it in another way...but essentially wha tthey are doing is fronting Rogers the money through their system and you cover it by paying the STORE cash. Point taken?

The problem I see arising is that if your credit is that bad, that they want a $500+ security deposit. That would kind of sting having to fork over that much in cash to a friend/relative to use their credit card to pay it immediately LOL.

Good Luck!

btw, there are no stupid questions....only stupid answers :).

silentio
Apr 12th, 2009, 09:25 PM
Prepaid visa cards u buy at supermarkets. You can fill it up anytime.

maritrunks
Apr 12th, 2009, 09:29 PM
Why would you want to go with Shaw/Robbers? Why pay $45+ every month for service that is constantly throttled, service goes down oftenly and the worst tech support/customer service.

Why not go with Teksavvy DSL internet? $27.99 + GST = $29.39 for full 5Mbps high speed internet, and thier service never goes down, and not to mention great tech support that is open until 2AM and they send you a invoice to your email that you can pay via cheque or internet banking.

3121983
Apr 12th, 2009, 09:51 PM
Why would you want to go with Shaw/Robbers? Why pay $45+ every month for service that is constantly throttled, service goes down oftenly and the worst tech support/customer service.

Why not go with Teksavvy DSL internet? $27.99 + GST = $29.39 for full 5Mbps high speed internet, and thier service never goes down, and not to mention great tech support that is open until 2AM and they send you a invoice to your email that you can pay via cheque or internet banking.

Now listen buddy and listen crystal clear.. I chose Shaw because all my friends use it and they have given their signed seal of approval. No problems whatsoever and I'm only using the service to play TF2 so I need the lowest ping possible 5-10ms. Who is Teksavy? I never heard of them plus I am in Surrey which is a suburb of Vancouver. I don't think they offer this service in my area. Even if they did I wouldn't go to them. Shaw is a reputable company with A+ customer service and etreme-I is wicked fast. Friends been using it and not 1 and let me say this again to reiterate my point NOT 1 freaking complaint.

I know my stuff so not to sound like a grumpy old grandpa but back off. Shaw is my final decision and nowhere did I ask about which Internet service I should get. I am going for Shaw with guns ablazing. I always listen to my friends cause their even more computer treky techs than me. If they are recommending me it I listen to them, plain and simple. They know their sh_t!

Jon Lai
Apr 12th, 2009, 10:03 PM
Why would you want to go with Shaw/Robbers? Why pay $45+ every month for service that is constantly throttled, service goes down oftenly and the worst tech support/customer service.

Why not go with Teksavvy DSL internet? $27.99 + GST = $29.39 for full 5Mbps high speed internet, and thier service never goes down, and not to mention great tech support that is open until 2AM and they send you a invoice to your email that you can pay via cheque or internet banking.

Many areas are not DSL friendly. I'm 6km away from the nearest CO.

terrybear
Apr 13th, 2009, 03:10 AM
Now listen buddy and listen crystal clear.. I chose Shaw because all my friends use it and they have given their signed seal of approval. No problems whatsoever and I'm only using the service to play TF2 so I need the lowest ping possible 5-10ms. Who is Teksavy? I never heard of them plus I am in Surrey which is a suburb of Vancouver. I don't think they offer this service in my area. Even if they did I wouldn't go to them. Shaw is a reputable company with A+ customer service and etreme-I is wicked fast. Friends been using it and not 1 and let me say this again to reiterate my point NOT 1 freaking complaint.

I know my stuff so not to sound like a grumpy old grandpa but back off. Shaw is my final decision and nowhere did I ask about which Internet service I should get. I am going for Shaw with guns ablazing. I always listen to my friends cause their even more computer treky techs than me. If they are recommending me it I listen to them, plain and simple. They know their sh_t!

k 1st off, no need to get all crabby here guy ... The guy is sugesting a VALID ISP that DOES offer for under $30 a 3 laned low latency up to 6-7 meg DSL connect. I know cause I am on it right now, I play FPS's online ( Combat Arms, Battlefield Hero's & ect) & even with 2 im's going, a ventrilo server I'm a admin on & the game running I got low latency no lag in those games @ 1920x1200 with everything on high.

SO ... that being said, contact teksavvy & see what they say. OH & btw if your friends are trying to tell you that cable will give ya low latency's on internet ... ask them to explain to you what happens when your connection fluxuates & keeps going up & down in speed (Hint: LAG/higher latencies on your connection) ;)

Seiphas
Apr 13th, 2009, 04:21 AM
Speed fluctuations have nothing to do with latency. If I send you 19771 DVDs in the mail tonight, and I send them overnight, then you're getting 1GB/sec. If I send you 39542 DVDs tonight, overnighted, you're getting 2GB/sec. However, it still takes 1 day to arrive, regardless of the number of DVDs.

However, why would you go with Shaw extreme internet? If you're just playing TF2, then I presume the slower tiers of service would be just as effective, yet cheaper. Speed won't make a difference, only latency. Not to mention though, that you're not getting 5-10ms (think 50+ ms).

attonbitusira
Apr 13th, 2009, 08:40 AM
Questions about credit cards and having a technician over to the house? Are you 16?

I was 16 once, and I remember respecting those who offer helpful suggestion, which I may add, is very correct information.

While cable companies typically offer higher bandwidth, you share that bandwidth with your neighbors. I have tried every major ISP in Ontario, and I can tell you that TekSavvy is a breath of fresh air.

This is a phone call with TekSavvy:

"1-877-779-1575"
"Ringgg..."
"..."
"Ringgg..."
"..."
"Hi Thank you for Calling Teksavvy my name is Sharon how can I help you?"
"GASP! A real person after two rings?"
"Haha. Yes, how can I help you?"
"Can I speak with technical support?
"Sure. Just a second please."
"Thank you."
"Ringgg..."
"Tech support. Shawn speaking."
"GASP! A real person?"

Bomberman07
Apr 13th, 2009, 11:10 AM
Questions about credit cards and having a technician over to the house? Are you 16?

I was 16 once, and I remember respecting those who offer helpful suggestion, which I may add, is very correct information.

While cable companies typically offer higher bandwidth, you share that bandwidth with your neighbors. I have tried every major ISP in Ontario, and I can tell you that TekSavvy is a breath of fresh air.

This is a phone call with TekSavvy:

"1-877-779-1575"
"Ringgg..."
"..."
"Ringgg..."
"..."
"Hi Thank you for Calling Teksavvy my name is Sharon how can I help you?"
"GASP! A real person after two rings?"
"Haha. Yes, how can I help you?"
"Can I speak with technical support?
"Sure. Just a second please."
"Thank you."
"Ringgg..."
"Tech support. Shawn speaking."
"GASP! A real person?"


and if you prefer you can post on a private portion of dslreport and get answered by teksavvy's tech or even by Rocky, the owner.

angekfire
Apr 13th, 2009, 11:27 AM
Now listen buddy and listen crystal clear.. I chose Shaw because all my friends use it and they have given their signed seal of approval. No problems whatsoever and I'm only using the service to play TF2 so I need the lowest ping possible 5-10ms. Who is Teksavy? I never heard of them plus I am in Surrey which is a suburb of Vancouver. I don't think they offer this service in my area. Even if they did I wouldn't go to them. Shaw is a reputable company with A+ customer service and etreme-I is wicked fast. Friends been using it and not 1 and let me say this again to reiterate my point NOT 1 freaking complaint.

I know my stuff so not to sound like a grumpy old grandpa but back off. Shaw is my final decision and nowhere did I ask about which Internet service I should get. I am going for Shaw with guns ablazing. I always listen to my friends cause their even more computer treky techs than me. If they are recommending me it I listen to them, plain and simple. They know their sh_t!

Wow, that is a pretty ****** attitude. Someone offers you valid advice, and a suggestion, and you turn around and take attitude for people trying to be helpful? That is a great way to get people to help you in the future. Your friends are more tech-savvy than you, but other people are more tech-savvy than your friends. Either way, what you do is your decision, it was a suggestion and you can take it or leave it, but being snotty is not a way to get help in the future.

Jon Lai
Apr 13th, 2009, 12:10 PM
Questions about credit cards and having a technician over to the house? Are you 16?

I was 16 once, and I remember respecting those who offer helpful suggestion, which I may add, is very correct information.

While cable companies typically offer higher bandwidth, you share that bandwidth with your neighbors. I have tried every major ISP in Ontario, and I can tell you that TekSavvy is a breath of fresh air.

This is a phone call with TekSavvy:

"1-877-779-1575"
"Ringgg..."
"..."
"Ringgg..."
"..."
"Hi Thank you for Calling Teksavvy my name is Sharon how can I help you?"
"GASP! A real person after two rings?"
"Haha. Yes, how can I help you?"
"Can I speak with technical support?
"Sure. Just a second please."
"Thank you."
"Ringgg..."
"Tech support. Shawn speaking."
"GASP! A real person?"

No doubt. They deserve to earn every single penny I give them.

Unfortunately, DSL speeds are capped at 1.5mbps to my house at 6km from the closest CO. FML.

kud0s69
Apr 13th, 2009, 01:18 PM
Now listen buddy and listen crystal clear.. I chose Shaw because all my friends use it and they have given their signed seal of approval. No problems whatsoever and I'm only using the service to play TF2 so I need the lowest ping possible 5-10ms. Who is Teksavy? I never heard of them plus I am in Surrey which is a suburb of Vancouver. I don't think they offer this service in my area. Even if they did I wouldn't go to them. Shaw is a reputable company with A+ customer service and etreme-I is wicked fast. Friends been using it and not 1 and let me say this again to reiterate my point NOT 1 freaking complaint.

I know my stuff so not to sound like a grumpy old grandpa but back off. Shaw is my final decision and nowhere did I ask about which Internet service I should get. I am going for Shaw with guns ablazing. I always listen to my friends cause their even more computer treky techs than me. If they are recommending me it I listen to them, plain and simple. They know their sh_t!



I have been with Shaw since they took over from Rogers. Yes that means I have had cable internet for 15+ years. I am guessing that this would be longer than you have been alive. I am dropping all my shaw services for Telus as soon as Telus TV HD comes to my house. I am so sick of the piss poor quality and lack of tech support. Yeah tech support is there if you call em, but the ongoing issues are not being fixed and the company is going downhill fast. Intermitted internet outtages. Audio dropouts from TV. Lack of resolution to my issues over the course of multiple tech support calls......Bullcrap marketing gimicks like "No Contract". What a load of garbage. Give me a 30 year contract and I will sign it for quality service. Its bloody tv/internet. It's like hydro these days. Would you sign a 50 year contract if you saved 10 bucks a month for your electricity? I would.

FCurimao
Apr 13th, 2009, 04:02 PM
I'm not so sure that there's even Teksavvy in Surrey, BC.

3121983
Apr 13th, 2009, 04:23 PM
Hey sorry you guys if I sounded a little off my rocker. Was just really p'd off cause I haven't been able to play that much TF2 with my friends. I get a bit cranky if I don't get my daily dose of Sniping. I'm probably got one of the best kill/death ratios so you can imagine how sick I will be with a Extreme-I.

I don't trust Techsavy. How long have they been in the Broadband game, I'll answer that for you.. NOT LONG. In BC we only get Telus & Shaw where as maybe in Vancouver Techsavy and some other non monopolized broadband companies are barely staying afloat. I asked my friends about Techsavy and even if I could get it they told me they are capped.

I will never go with Telus no chance in hell just for the fact you have to get taken hostage with a contract. I dont want to feel like a prisoner. I don't like Telus customer service either just heard way too many horror stories.

grappos13
Apr 13th, 2009, 04:28 PM
I wanna go with shaw cable internet. right now i don't have that great credit rating so no credit cards. mmm... how will I pay? I get my bank cheque deposited in my bank account from work.
Can I write the shaw company checks or do online monthly transfers when the bill is due? right now i'm just leeching off neighbors internet cause its free. now that i have enough i wanna sign up for shaw extreme-i.
last thing.. how long does install take? never had technician in my apartment. kinda worried it might take helluva long time

more like... theft....illegal... lol

kud0s69
Apr 13th, 2009, 04:41 PM
Hey sorry you guys if I sounded a little off my rocker. Was just really p'd off cause I haven't been able to play that much TF2 with my friends. I get a bit cranky if I don't get my daily dose of Sniping. I'm probably got one of the best kill/death ratios so you can imagine how sick I will be with a Extreme-I.

I don't trust Techsavy. How long have they been in the Broadband game, I'll answer that for you.. NOT LONG. In BC we only get Telus & Shaw where as maybe in Vancouver Techsavy and some other non monopolized broadband companies are barely staying afloat. I asked my friends about Techsavy and even if I could get it they told me they are capped.

I will never go with Telus no chance in hell just for the fact you have to get taken hostage with a contract. I dont want to feel like a prisoner. I don't like Telus customer service either just heard way too many horror stories.

There is this really neat website you should check out. It will help you with your questions and concerns. It's pretty new, so you may want to bookmark it.

http://lmgtfy.com

All your answers can be found there, even Teksavvy reviews and company history.

ngp
Apr 13th, 2009, 04:44 PM
Hey sorry you guys if I sounded a little off my rocker. Was just really p'd off cause I haven't been able to play that much TF2 with my friends. I get a bit cranky if I don't get my daily dose of Sniping. I'm probably got one of the best kill/death ratios so you can imagine how sick I will be with a Extreme-I.

I don't trust Techsavy. How long have they been in the Broadband game, I'll answer that for you.. NOT LONG. In BC we only get Telus & Shaw where as maybe in Vancouver Techsavy and some other non monopolized broadband companies are barely staying afloat. I asked my friends about Techsavy and even if I could get it they told me they are capped.

I will never go with Telus no chance in hell just for the fact you have to get taken hostage with a contract. I dont want to feel like a prisoner. I don't like Telus customer service either just heard way too many horror stories.

I'm subscribed with Teksavvy and I vouch for them. What do you mean capped? Their bandwidth cap is 200GB. Additional bandwidth is charged at a reasonable rate. If I recall correctly, Shaw's is much lower.

Out west, just think of Teksavvy as Telus, with no contract, better support.

Seiphas
Apr 13th, 2009, 05:01 PM
Once again, why do you need Shaw Extreme Internet. I'm not saying don't go with Shaw, but if all you do is play TF2, then something like Shaw High Speed Lite would be just as fast, and cheaper. It's latency that matters, not speed, and both have the exact same latency.

number8888
Apr 13th, 2009, 05:13 PM
I know my stuff so not to sound like a grumpy old grandpa but back off.

No you don't know your stuff. If you did you wouldn't be posting here in the first place.

You asked for help and peopel are trying to help you. Not only do you not thank them, you are making degoratory remarks, being rude, and basically being a total douche.

Who do you think you are? This is a forum for mature discussions and if you don't have anything to contribute then please please just go away. We don't need any of your childish behaviour here.

As for Teksavvy, it has been serving Canada for years and it's basically the "go-to" ISP for many of us that has been sick of using Rogers/Shaw/Bell. They provide great customer service, decent pricing, and lets you overcome any throttling Rogers/Bell/Shaw impose on your connection. If you care about gaming you ESPECIALLY want to get away from them.

Learn to be modest. It will help you greatly in life.

talktwo
Apr 16th, 2009, 03:29 PM
I'm with Teksavvy ... and it seems that you and your "friends" aren't really that tech-savvy ;-).

If you mean capped in terms of bandwidth per month ... Teksavvy offers 200GB/month ... Shaw Xtreme-I is 100GB/month. And why would you need unlimited service if you're only playing games anyways?!?!

Also, unless your "friends" live in the same building they're unlikely to be able to make any guaranteed claims for you, or shouldn't rather. Having Shaw Xtreme-I isn't going to guarantee that you get pings of 5-10ms. Having a fat bandwidth pipe isn't necessarily going to lower your latency. Generally speaking, having a fat pipeline is not a good or accurate measurement of how your latency will be (unless you're hosting or running the game server). Think about the following factors: firewalls, routers, line quality, distance from server.

Essentially, bandwidth doesn't matter unless you max it out (resulting in congestion, packet loss, and increased ping times). As you're stealing from your neighbours connection, you dont' know whether they're downloading stuff, using the connection for other purposes etc. which of course contributes to lag.

Rather than blindly follow your "friends" advice, why don't you conduct some independent research and be a leader rather than a follower? I wouldn't blindly follow my friends advice, nor would I ever expect them to blindly follow mine (oh God, I hope they don't ...). :razz:

1337rice
Apr 16th, 2009, 04:40 PM
I have been with Shaw since they took over from Rogers.

...funny how Rogers and Shaw switched places here...back then, I was with Shaw until Rogers came in. Can still remember how cable was so expensive (and it still is now......hence I no longer watch t.v)


and lets you overcome any throttling Rogers/Bell/Shaw impose on your connection.

nah, don't think he's "teksavvy" enough for it...

akademiks
Apr 16th, 2009, 04:52 PM
Can someone ban this dumbass troll already?

WickedSmurf
Apr 16th, 2009, 05:22 PM
Can someone ban this dumbass troll already?
There's a link called "Report this post" on the left. I suggest you use it.