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spf1971
Apr 7th, 2009, 02:32 PM
"The Associated Press plans to send more of its lawyers after news aggregators and other websites that post its articles online without permission."
http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2009/04/07/tech-090407-ap-online-news-aggregators.html
What will he do now that he can't simply copy and paste?
yao416
Apr 7th, 2009, 02:36 PM
Lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
bobbings
Apr 7th, 2009, 02:38 PM
What if he posts the link with the article? Isn't that what people do most of the time? They copy and paste it but then the link is provided as well.
KorruptioN
Apr 7th, 2009, 02:38 PM
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
CSAgent
Apr 7th, 2009, 02:39 PM
PWNED!! :lol::lol::lol:
YoungDr3amer
Apr 7th, 2009, 02:42 PM
What impeccable timing!
burnt_toast
Apr 7th, 2009, 02:46 PM
OP is just spamming.
Lock. Keep doing it st7860 and you'll be banned.
counting down the days...
MrDisco
Apr 7th, 2009, 03:08 PM
5 Stars. About time.
Barayolayosa
Apr 7th, 2009, 03:13 PM
counting down the days...
+1
board123
Apr 7th, 2009, 03:15 PM
He should be banned for having that avatar, whatever it is.
Jon Lai
Apr 7th, 2009, 03:16 PM
WTF? I thought it's fine as long as you cite your sources.
At least, that's what they teach in class :D
jcon
Apr 7th, 2009, 03:21 PM
It's fine if you're not benefiting financially from it but RFD does make money from its forum
WontonTiger
Apr 7th, 2009, 03:28 PM
Uh oh...
Looks like the politics ban might be upgraded to an entire OFF TOPIC ban...
The horror:eek::eek::eek::eek:
laptop-tech
Apr 7th, 2009, 03:38 PM
+1
+2
15-20_God
Apr 7th, 2009, 03:41 PM
AP to crack down on websites that copy its news
Google insists news service's complaint not directed its way
Last Updated: Tuesday, April 7, 2009 | 1:21 PM ET Comments11Recommend7CBC News
'We must be paid fully and fairly,' Dean Singleton, CEO of MediaNews Group, Inc., and chairman of the Associated Press board of directors, told the AP annual meeting Monday. (Reed Saxon/Associated Press)The Associated Press plans to send more of its lawyers after news aggregators and other websites that post its articles online without permission.
"We can no longer stand by and watch others walk off with our work under misguided legal theories," said Dean Singleton, chair of the U.S.-based co-operative news network in a statement at AP's annual meeting in San Diego on Monday. "We are mad as hell, and we are not going to take it any more."
Singleton reported that over the weekend, AP's board of directors agreed unanimously to "take all actions necessary" to protect its news and digital content from "misappropriation on the internet." He added that he believes the co-operative's members, which include 1,400 daily newspapers in the U.S., will join its fight.
"AP and its member newspapers and broadcast associate members are the source of most of the news content being created in the world today," Singleton said. "We must be paid fully and fairly."
AP said in a news release that its strategy is to:
Develop a system to track online content and determine whether it is being legally used.
Create new search pages to direct readers to news content from AP and its members over other sources.
Work with partners who properly license content.
Pursue legal and legislative actions against those who do not.
AP has previously launched lawsuits against a number of alleged copyright violators, including:
All Headline News Corp., a Florida-based online aggregator alleged to have copied and rewritten AP stories.
Moreover Technologies Inc., an aggregator that is a subsidiary of VeriSign Inc., which AP claimed improperly displayed AP headlines, and reproduced full articles and photos through subscription services. The two sides reached an undisclosed settlement in 2008.
Knowledge Networks Inc., a market research company that eventually paid $300,000 US to settle claims that it improperly distributed AP articles and articles from other publishers in its press packets.
Artist Shepard Fairey, who altered an AP photo of Barack Obama to create iconic campaign posters last year.
The company also announced at its annual meeting Monday that it will be lowering rates and offering more licensing options to its member newspapers, who have been suffering from significant drops in revenue.
'It doesn't appear to pertain to Google'
Meanwhile, Google issued a statement Tuesday countering speculation that it might be one of the targets of AP's ramped-up fight against news aggregators.
"It doesn't appear to pertain to Google since we host those articles in partnership with the AP," said a posting by Alexander Macgillivray, Google's associate general counsel for products and intellectual property, on the Google Public Policy Blog.
Macgillivray added that as part of agreements such as the one with AP, Google pays news agencies and displays the entire text of articles.
AP and other several wire services that don't have their own consumer websites have had a hosting agreement with Google since 2007. AP had reached a licensing deal with Google the year before that.
In cases where Google crawls and indexes articles but does not host them, Google itself shows only a headline and a line or two of text, along with a link to the news publisher's website, Macgillivray said. Google has long claimed that qualifies as fair use under the U.S. Copyright Act.
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MrDisco
Apr 7th, 2009, 03:45 PM
*snip*
lol
nano
Apr 7th, 2009, 03:51 PM
counting down the days...
5 Stars. About time.
+1
He should be banned for having that avatar, whatever it is.
+2
:cheesygri
ullyeus
Apr 7th, 2009, 04:04 PM
this is hilarious, I actually finally pm'ed st7860 this morning telling him his posts were boring and I didn't understand why he did it.
ElChico
Apr 7th, 2009, 04:04 PM
AP to crack down on websites that copy its news
{snippity snip snip}
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3123/2902748386_772197259b.jpg
Barayolayosa
Apr 7th, 2009, 04:13 PM
this is hilarious, I actually finally pm'ed st7860 this morning telling him his posts were boring and I didn't understand why he did it.
I've told him that a number of times in the past, although not by PM - by reply to his crappy post.
Dash
Apr 7th, 2009, 04:36 PM
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
bubble.tea
Apr 7th, 2009, 05:29 PM
If anybody is curious...about 2 years ago or so he even recorded himself trying to call into retention...either that or some other mundane dialogue.
It was funny to hear what the person behind the username actually sounded like.
I wonder if it's still linked up.
corrupt123
Apr 7th, 2009, 06:25 PM
If anybody is curious...about 2 years ago or so he even recorded himself trying to call into retention...either that or some other mundane dialogue.
It was funny to hear what the person behind the username actually sounded like.
I wonder if it's still linked up.
Really?
I have long suspected (and still do) that he's a bot.
Thats a pretty smart computer...
Siefer999
Apr 7th, 2009, 08:25 PM
Really?
I have long suspected (and still do) that he's a bot.
Thats a pretty smart computer...
i thought he was too. i remember one time there was a "post an pic of whatever you want" thread in off topic and he spammed like 15pages of full of posts with like 10 random pics each post. and it was like once a every minute before it was locked.
okay, im exaggerating a bit but that is pretty much exactly what happened.
Peckerwood
Apr 7th, 2009, 08:30 PM
I don't get it...the Associated Press is whining about getting extra readers?
So I wonder what their sponsors/advertisers think of this move.
cheapmeister
Apr 7th, 2009, 09:04 PM
Nooooooooooooooo :|
His posts make me feel like I live in a good place!
komal
Apr 7th, 2009, 10:08 PM
I don't get it...the Associated Press is whining about getting extra readers?
So I wonder what their sponsors/advertisers think of this move.
Why do people comment on articles they didn't bother reading?
The AP is annoyed by people who copy and paste their stories, as such, their advertisers/sponsors get no advertising for the articles, and somebody else pockets any ad revenues.
Peckerwood
Apr 7th, 2009, 10:26 PM
Why do people comment on articles they didn't bother reading?
The AP is annoyed by people who copy and paste their stories, as such, their advertisers/sponsors get no advertising for the articles, and somebody else pockets any ad revenues.
Why do people bother to comment on a post they neither get nor read in to.
Many people who read the stories on other websites actually click on the link and then happen to browse other stories on the original website...I know I do.
Jon Lai
Apr 7th, 2009, 10:52 PM
Why do people bother to comment on a post they neither get nor read in to.
Many people who read the stories on other websites actually click on the link and then happen to browse other stories on the original website...I know I do.
Except you're not "many people"
Peckerwood
Apr 8th, 2009, 12:15 AM
Except you're not "many people"
:lol: :razz: :) :| :( :cry:
komal
Apr 8th, 2009, 01:19 AM
Why do people bother to comment on a post they neither get nor read in to.
Many people who read the stories on other websites actually click on the link and then happen to browse other stories on the original website...I know I do.
What's there to read into? Post everything you want to say in your first comment.
:rolleyes:
We aren't talking about reddits and diggs which simply make up their own headline and don't copy any of the actual article.
They are talking about sites that use their headlines and snippets of their articles.
Newspapers have to pay for that content, most aggregators do not pay for it.
How often do you click a link and find an article copied verbatim posted on somebody's blog along with ads?
If you didn't have an aggregator you would have to browse an AP-licensed site for the content, which is what they want.
Now that papers are hurting badly, the AP isn't willing to have others profit from their content for free anymore, they are trying to provide cheaper licensing for papers.
Aggregators are good insofar as they can aggregate readers with varied interests, but those people who read the snippet and click the article aren't likely to start generally browsing the site. They likely clicked the article because the snippet was about something of interest to them. They are likely to read the snippet, read the original article and then return to the aggregator.
The length of time one spends on a site is significant in terms of generating ad revenue, its part of why digg has the new diggbar.