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Evil Techie
Mar 25th, 2004, 09:50 PM
Aug. 26 2005 Update
Newegg is planning for an October launch date for their crossborder shipping method to provide their service to the Canadian consumers.
Shipping fee will be all inclusive with brokage fee included when you go checkout on the website. UPS will be the courier and the final purchase prices will be very competitive. Shipping fee will be kept as low as possible so please just be patience and see what the rates will be like because this is a special deal NewEgg is working out with UPS.
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Hello my fellow RFD members,
as I have mentioned this before a few months ago, NewEgg has some plans to come into Canada. This includes opening warehouses on the west coast and the east coast.
Now plans are one more step to coming a reality and I have been asked by the corporate planning Assit. Manager to bring this news to you all informally.
I am also looking for your feedbacks.
This would definately create some jobs here in Canada and I am sure that will be welcomed by many of you. However, NewEgg would always like to treat their customers with the upmost respect and provide the best service possible so if you have any suggestions, feel free to reply here and they will definately be considered.
Thank you very much.
David
June 28 2005
ps. the reason NewEgg hasnt started in Canada yet is because they want to plan things out very thoroughly so no customers will be dissapointed by a not so well thought out plan
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previous thread content:
How would you feel if Newegg opens a warehouse in canada and opens business to Canadians?
if you dont know what newegg is, it is like tigerdirect except better service and better prices. www.newegg.com
Would you buy from Newegg?
also feel free to post what you would like to see from online retailers?
BlueMax
Mar 25th, 2004, 09:53 PM
IN A HEARTBEAT, YES!!!!!
ragin_pyro
Mar 25th, 2004, 10:57 PM
YES! Newegg has like crazy customer satisfaction, hope theyre prices would be as cheap as equiv of American.
robattoronto
Mar 25th, 2004, 10:58 PM
Originally posted by Evil Techie@Mar 25 2004, 08:50 PM
How would you feel if Newegg opens a warehouse in canada and opens business to Canadians?
if you dont know what newegg is, it is like tigerdirect except better service and better prices. www.newegg.com
Would you buy from Newegg?
also feel free to post what you would like to see from online retailers?
Are you affiliated to newegg in any way? I voted yes. Why should staples get all the price matched sales. Newegg should come with a nice pricematch policy. :rolleyes:
scottrempel
Mar 25th, 2004, 11:00 PM
Most definitely....I have a lot of friends down in the states and they are all very happy that they have newegg. The more money and better service I can get....the better. :D
jerryhussain
Mar 25th, 2004, 11:16 PM
Well, so far we have had one *competition fearing* person ... (the 1 vote that says no) :lol:
Anyway, would be great. Competition is always good.
miss_swan
Mar 26th, 2004, 05:40 AM
Are you kidding?
Good to great prices and great customer service - and you're asking whether we would like newegg to come to Canada?
You know how many times I see the name newegg referenced over at Anandtech ... and how many times I think in my own mind "They don't ship to Canada and they don't take CND credit cards ...?"
IVNP
Mar 26th, 2004, 06:43 AM
They might have different pricing if you mean having a newegg.ca.............then it's no good.
sfu_lifer
Mar 26th, 2004, 07:02 AM
Doesn't matter to me.
I've been ordering from them for the longest time (3+ years).
And not all their prices are good. Their "refurb" section is the best for CPU, RAM and the odd toy.
thunder
Mar 26th, 2004, 07:24 AM
:D :D :D
HI:OF Course I will order from them
they are the Best
Cheers..
mlc2000
Mar 26th, 2004, 08:26 AM
There is an axiom in any business:
LOW PRICE
QUALITY PRODUCTS
EXCELLANT CUSTOMER SERVICE
PICK ANY TWO.
If the service is good and the quality is there, I don't mind paying a little extra. Having said that, I'm not opposed to Staples PM'ing to get the price down.
LtFransky
Mar 26th, 2004, 08:28 AM
Sure, why not?
Incidentally is this poll for fun or are we actually being counted toward something? It would be nice to have one, but who knows what the Canadian market will support.
Narci
Mar 26th, 2004, 09:55 AM
Sure..then I won't have to goto that blasted canadacomputers.
kaddy69
Mar 26th, 2004, 10:29 AM
Bring on newegg.ca!! I don't mind NCIX, but thats only cause of there price matching!
kaddy69
Ren
Mar 26th, 2004, 10:35 AM
*Cough*Newegg in Canada NyEsV E R! *cough*
afzan
Mar 26th, 2004, 10:56 AM
i have you have some inside info or sometihng, because alot of people are gonna be pissed off if they don't come to canada after this thread.. :P
sfu_lifer
Mar 26th, 2004, 01:54 PM
I love their customer service.
Problems? Send it back (less 15% for restocking).
They don't even ask if you overclocked it or anything.
Scooter
Mar 26th, 2004, 03:42 PM
A friend of mine in New York, who is a systems administrator for a Fortune 500 company, swears by Newegg. I would love to see them come to Canada.
Zeni
Mar 26th, 2004, 03:44 PM
Definitely, excellent service and they have a huge selection of stuff, if that were available in Canada I'd be on it like white on rice. :ph34r:
poppa
Mar 26th, 2004, 08:24 PM
I have never shopped at newegg, but if it is as good as everyone says it is, then there should not a reason why they would not come here. I mean, look at Best Buy, and Crispy Creme. It' is only a matter of time...
mrken
Mar 27th, 2004, 12:46 AM
Competition? Yay! Staples PMs? Weee!!! :D
Why can't they just be like TD and ship to Canada?
sonick
Mar 27th, 2004, 02:43 AM
Any reason why you are asking this???
COz if its just for the hell of it, you've just let many of our high hopes come crashing down...
BEpsilon
Mar 27th, 2004, 03:32 AM
As long as they will have good pricing, sure, why not?
Evil Techie
Jun 28th, 2005, 06:11 PM
bump
they are coming to canada
im not letting anyone down
StrayB
Jun 28th, 2005, 06:18 PM
bump
they are coming to canada
im not letting anyone down
ETA?
Txiasaeia
Jun 28th, 2005, 06:19 PM
You asked in the other thread how they could make it work: take NCIX's model verbatim *except* for the weekly sales. Good customer services, cheap shipping options, good customer service, low prices, good customer service, and did I mention customer service? No credit card surcharges is a must; I've simply stopped shopping anywhere that makes me pay more money for credit cards.
I like NCIX because of their customer service and good prices, but their weekly sale thing annoys the heck out of me. I'd much rather see a quarterly sale with awesome deals and regular good prices than weekly sales that offer pretty much the same old same old.
Riflem@n
Jun 28th, 2005, 06:21 PM
They better be in Ontario, BC already has NCIX.
Newegg > NCIX.
Evil Techie
Jun 28th, 2005, 06:24 PM
newegg has different sale items from their newsletters
but simply because the amount of items they carry, they also have tons of deals on their webpage.
i wouldnt be surprised if NCIX tried to copy newegg as newegg is pretty much the biggest online computer retailer in north america, except dell.
Evil Techie
Jun 28th, 2005, 06:28 PM
ETA should be soon
they have enough funding, just doing the usual steps now.
there will be 2 warehouses as i posted in the OT thread that got locked because of similarity to this thread.
one will be on the west coast here and one will be on the east coast.
so from then on, no one in canada will have to worry about shipping anymore!!!
ShadowVlican
Jun 28th, 2005, 06:30 PM
They better be in Ontario, BC already has NCIX.
Newegg > NCIX.
um... i'd rather have it located in BC so that we Ontarians can save some taxes :rolleyes:
a move to canada is a great idea
Evil Techie
Jun 28th, 2005, 06:34 PM
ok... ill leak out the details for the warehouse plans
one in vancouver
one in montreal
none in ontario planned right now
NewEgg isnt "moving" to Canada
they are expanding into canada
elty
Jun 28th, 2005, 06:36 PM
They have the money... so it will take like 1 more year for them to enter the market?
Evil Techie
Jun 28th, 2005, 06:39 PM
They have the money... so it will take like 1 more year for them to enter the market?
less
they have been planning for many years
then stopped for a while for some changes in plans and now they are done with that and getting back to this...
but for sure this will go through and faster than a year
Xboxgp
Jun 28th, 2005, 06:42 PM
I CAN NOT wait for Newegg to come to Canada. I've been forced to buy from NCIX, which is on the opposite end of Canada from me (expensive shipping) so seeing a company as great as Newegg building a warehouse in eastern Canada is excellent news. I'll definitely be buying from them.
hagbard
Jun 28th, 2005, 06:53 PM
Yes, I think they'll do very well. Told them that many times in email.
Amourek
Jun 28th, 2005, 07:15 PM
More competition is always good. :D
BoxsterS
Jun 28th, 2005, 07:30 PM
Newegg is a fantastic company, as is their sister site ChiefValue, and I always order from Newegg whenever I'm in the U.S. But, don't get your hopes up about free shipping because they still charge shipping (although it's small enough that you really don't care) for most of their products.
Absolute
Jun 28th, 2005, 07:34 PM
Never heard of the site, but I'm willing to try anything besides the usual 3 stores.
Evil Techie
Jun 28th, 2005, 07:34 PM
hahahaha looks like people are finding out about chiefvalue...
id say its about time Canada gets a boost of consumer confidence and a kick in the rear for our economy
Spent
Jun 28th, 2005, 07:35 PM
Prices are GREAT
and
Customer service is OUTSTANDING! :D
MrDisco
Jun 28th, 2005, 07:50 PM
as long as ne.ca is the same as ne.com then i'll for it. if they start messing around with it and make it into some kind of watered down, more expensive version i'll just say meh
BoxsterS
Jun 28th, 2005, 07:55 PM
hahahaha looks like people are finding out about chiefvalue...
id say its about time Canada gets a boost of consumer confidence and a kick in the rear for our economy
What, you thought we didn't know ChiefValue was the sister site to NewEgg? ;)
Evil Techie
Jun 28th, 2005, 07:58 PM
What, you thought we didn't know ChiefValue was the sister site to NewEgg? ;)
how did you figure it out??
i know that a competitor has found out about it
but didnt know that consumers would find out about it easily
anyways
things will start rolling very soon
jjboy
Jun 28th, 2005, 07:59 PM
ok... ill leak out the details for the warehouse plans
one in vancouver
one in montreal
none in ontario planned right now
NewEgg isnt "moving" to Canada
they are expanding into canada
So is it still in the planning stage? Has newegg found a location for the warehouse yet? My guess is that it will probably be located in Richmond.
ViperZ
Jun 28th, 2005, 08:00 PM
I bought my Chaintech case with window from them when I lived in California! Still using it! Grrrrrrreat service, fast shipping, awesome parts!!!
MtX
Jun 28th, 2005, 08:07 PM
As long as the prices are the same as the American site then yes.
derevaun
Jun 28th, 2005, 08:29 PM
umm HOT. this is amazing.
going to univ in the US, i always buy from newegg
but MUST SAVE PST>.. i'm glad the warehouses are in montreal and vancouver... make sure AT ALL COST that pst should be avoided, and include the same sorts of free shipping offers.
poppa
Jun 28th, 2005, 08:30 PM
As long as the prices are the same as the American site then yes.
I don't think that's possible given our size versus the American market. As long as the prices are the lowest in Canada, then I'm ok with it.
peterbrowne
Jun 28th, 2005, 08:58 PM
Sorry Mr. Chad Chen (Registrant of newegg.ca),
You don't qualify for either of the domain names you have registered (newegg.ca, neweggs.ca) as per CIRA regulations.
This has been reported to the CIRA.
SIncerely,
Peter R Browne
IT Advisor
adverisment deleted
BlueMax
Jun 28th, 2005, 09:05 PM
Updates?
Evil Techie
Jun 28th, 2005, 09:24 PM
Sorry Mr. Chad Chen (Registrant of newegg.ca),
You don't qualify for either of the domain names you have registered (newegg.ca, neweggs.ca) as per CIRA regulations.
This has been reported to the CIRA.
SIncerely,
Peter R Browne
IT Advisor
adverisment deleted
ha nice try newbie
peterbrowne
Jun 28th, 2005, 09:27 PM
ha nice try newbie
http://whois.cira.ca/public?domaine=newegg.ca&LANGUE=en
Admin Contact must be located in Canada NOT THE US OF A
Absolute
Jun 28th, 2005, 09:38 PM
This has been reported to the CIRA.
I hope you're not going to get the domain taken away, and then squat on it.
rockthecasbah
Jun 28th, 2005, 09:40 PM
i remember hearing americans talk about the great deals at newegg...so i'd be really interested in newegg expanding into canada.
i also wish buy.com would expand into canada, they have some good deals on there sometimes.
pcguy
Jun 28th, 2005, 10:01 PM
As long as the shipping costs are reasonable and not excessive. Not all of us can live near the warehouses. I buy locally as shipping charges normally make a sale not a sale from places out west.
JoKeRr
Jun 28th, 2005, 10:03 PM
How do I contact that assistant manager?? I want to join in as part of the team!
dens
Jun 28th, 2005, 10:07 PM
Nice to hear that.
It will be great if they behave like the US part - good prices and customer service. :)
warpdrive
Jun 28th, 2005, 10:09 PM
i also wish buy.com would expand into canada, they have some good deals on there sometimes.
They *were* in Canada at least 5 years ago, but closed down their operations here.
DJ Trance AZ
Jun 28th, 2005, 10:30 PM
It's good to see another great computer store coming to Canada! I always surf on NewEgg to look for product pictures and stock availability in order to get a good idea when those products will arrive in Canada.
Like one RFDer said, as long as the prices are good, then I will 100% support it. I know it's frustrating to see something on NewEgg, yet they don't ship to Canada at that time I spoke to their sales rep.
I know NewEgg has already opened up stores in China...hope it will be successful in Canada as well!
callous
Jun 28th, 2005, 10:32 PM
ha nice try newbie
Hey, arent you the guy who's dad is in LA and runs Newegg at the executive level?
2000fordfocus
Jun 28th, 2005, 10:35 PM
I can't wait! no more US to CAD convertion!
Firestorm ZERO
Jun 28th, 2005, 10:43 PM
ok... ill leak out the details for the warehouse plans
one in vancouver
one in montreal
none in ontario planned right now
That's actually nice for Ontarians. No PST. And Montreal is near so shipping will be pretty fast.
Ren
Jun 28th, 2005, 10:52 PM
http://whois.cira.ca/public?domaine=newegg.ca&LANGUE=en
Admin Contact must be located in Canada NOT THE US OF A
Webnames is a UBC based high tech company that registers domains for larger companies. That's their business. I've attended one of the the co-owners lectures before, and it's amazing that they could make money of such a simple idea. They have a number of high profile clients that he wasn't willing to leak out :)
They've also expanded to reliable web hosting services for larger businesses *cough* shaw *cough*.
BlueMax
Jun 28th, 2005, 11:12 PM
Not only does Newegg have some great prices, great service, great availability - but I LOVE the web design! They make is SO easy to find products!
Want a motherboard? Choose AMD vs. Intel (like most sites do) but then you can search by SO many options! Chipset, socket, RAM type, RAM slots, number of expansion slots.... you name it! Makes it SO easy to find EXACTLY what you need!
And that goes for just about everything on NewEgg. I'll support them 101%!!
Evil Techie
Jun 29th, 2005, 12:45 AM
im overwhelmed by the amount of canadians that know about newegg's great service
things are looking bright :)
bionicbadger
Jun 29th, 2005, 01:00 AM
I'll wait and see. I've only seen a couple legit (not price mistake) hardware deals on-line in Canada that I can't buy cheaper than at a local brick and mortar store. The selection is usually better on-line, but shipping usually kills the deal, and there is always the risk of having to RMA something or getting a bad product through the mail. If I buy local its easy to exchange, via mail it costs money and is a pain so that factors into my buying decision. If they have really good prices, and free/cheap shipping, I'll look.
chopstickhero
Jun 29th, 2005, 01:07 AM
newegg is great, i ordered from there last week for a nec nd3520.. $49
Vegetto
Jun 29th, 2005, 01:08 AM
I'd definitely give it a try as long as they kept the huge inventory and great prices and so on ;)
Would there be different payment options for us Canucks; maybe EMT?
bokchoy
Jun 29th, 2005, 01:09 AM
Should be good for competition. Wonder how prices will be like :D
eh^
Jun 29th, 2005, 01:11 AM
competition is always good :D
Ch28
Jun 29th, 2005, 05:33 AM
Just bought a stick of 1gb ddr2 sodimm laptop ram from them :)
Shipping was cheap...like $3.xxUSD and I went down to PR to pick it up. They said it would be there by 4:30 on Monday but instead arrived Friday at 2:30 so they were early :D
callous
Jun 29th, 2005, 05:48 AM
Tigerdirect and NCIX must be crapping in their pants just about now...
Absolute
Jun 29th, 2005, 08:28 AM
Tigerdirect and NCIX must be crapping in their pants just about now...
Good, maybe TD will bring back their free shipping, and NCIX will have an actual sale :)
hagbard
Jun 29th, 2005, 09:47 AM
I'm really looking forward to buying mail order again without worrying about whether the shipper (NCIX) bothered to put any packing material in with my new hard drives.
The Digital Dolphin
Jun 29th, 2005, 09:52 AM
Tigerdirect and NCIX must be crapping in their pants just about now...
I very seriously doubt that.
But the question remains, will Newegg set up proper distribution channels through Canada, or will they simply grey market all their products through US and Chinese suppliers. It boils down to, do they want to run a proper business, or are they concerned with price, and dominating the market only.
NCIX chose to go through proper distribution channels, and Tigerdirect mostly went the other way. From Newegg's reputation, I'd like to think they'll do a proper job, and if that is the case, the pricing on things won't be very different from NCIX.
Absolute:
Yeah, you're right. It's not enough that they give most of their sale items away, they should be paying us to take them!!
Txiasaeia
Jun 29th, 2005, 10:03 AM
Absolute:
Yeah, you're right. It's not enough that they give most of their sale items away, they should be paying us to take them!!
Don't know if you're being sarcastic, but NCIX "sales" usually drop the prices of most items to the same price as other Vancouver retailers. It's frustrating when most people I know would rather have consistent prices instead of prices that essentially fluctuate by 20% or more from week to week.
Rehan
Jun 29th, 2005, 10:04 AM
Poll fixed, though it's a little late for that now. :razz:
BlueMax
Jun 29th, 2005, 10:22 AM
Don't know if you're being sarcastic, but NCIX "sales" usually drop the prices of most items to the same price as other Vancouver retailers. It's frustrating when most people I know would rather have consistent prices instead of prices that essentially fluctuate by 20% or more from week to week.
Hear, hear! NCIX is good, but not awesome.
kgeorge78
Jun 29th, 2005, 12:34 PM
Yes of course I would
Absolute
Jun 29th, 2005, 12:45 PM
Poll fixed, though it's a little late for that now. :razz:
Lol, just a little biased from the old forum software :)
Szeto
Jun 29th, 2005, 01:08 PM
maybe NCIX should've moved to East Coast instead of having so many stores in GVRD ?
Camilo
Jun 29th, 2005, 01:12 PM
YES, not even thinking twice
-=Wraith=-
Jun 29th, 2005, 01:27 PM
wow look at the poll:
Yes: 174
No: 0
Maybe: 2
now if there were some grand opening doorcrashers or some RFD exclusive deals....;)
elty
Jun 29th, 2005, 01:57 PM
but will newegg establish itself as a national business? if so then you have to pay tax no matter where they ship it from - no?
Absolute
Jun 29th, 2005, 02:11 PM
but will newegg establish itself as a national business? if so then you have to pay tax no matter where they ship it from - no?
We'll have to pay GST no matter where they come from, but hopefully only BC and Quebec residents will have to pay PST.
Evil Techie
Jun 29th, 2005, 03:37 PM
i think newegg canada will be established as a national business so PST is something that might not be avoidable even in BC and Quebec, im not sure though
also shipping through out the whole canada should be all fairly cheap
except the far north perhaps
ps. thanx for fixing the poll rehan
Vegetto
Jun 29th, 2005, 08:18 PM
Yes of course I would
Well there's like half their Canadian sales right there, ;)
-Peter
guest10586
Jun 29th, 2005, 08:29 PM
Their pricing looks very good and if they honor their rebates unlike Tiger Direct I will probably never buy from NCIX again.
Homer88
Jun 29th, 2005, 08:50 PM
They should have a lot of success if the deals are the same or similar as the states. Hopefully the shipping won't be too expensive as the rates here costs around 10-20% more compared to the states. NCIX and TD should be scared ;)
Evil Techie
Jun 29th, 2005, 08:54 PM
ooh i see ncix_tech viewing this thread
lol
he voted no
lol
duh
the only people who would vote no are the competition
Absolute
Jun 29th, 2005, 09:24 PM
Lol, it would be funny if they voted yes :)
More competition!!
BoxsterS
Jun 29th, 2005, 09:34 PM
Evil Techie, can you give us a concrete time frame when NewEgg Canada will be opening? Are we talking about 2005 or 2006?
The Digital Dolphin
Jun 29th, 2005, 09:54 PM
the only people who would vote no are the competition
Or people who prefer to buy from Canadian owned and operated companies ;)
Evil Techie
Jun 30th, 2005, 05:54 AM
Or people who prefer to buy from Canadian owned and operated companies ;)
well lets see, the vice-chairman of newegg is a Burnaby native
graduated from SFU Comp Sci...
good enough?
i dont have any concrete time frame to be given now
but id have to say by the end of 2005, things should be almost ready to go if not already operating
rahzel
Jun 30th, 2005, 06:20 AM
http://www.resellerratings.com/seller2121.html
nuff said. If its gonna be anything like the US, im all for it.
sfu_lifer
Jun 30th, 2005, 06:37 AM
I love Newegg and their super excellent refurb section.
I hope they keep the shipping at $1 like what they do with the US.
They have absolutely excellent support from when I've dealt with them. I'm a very satisfied customer.
Absolute
Jun 30th, 2005, 06:55 AM
http://www.resellerratings.com/seller2121.html
nuff said. If its gonna be anything like the US, im all for it.
Wow, thanks for the link. I still don't know much about Newgg, but those are some impressive ratings!
Homer88
Jun 30th, 2005, 07:23 AM
Haha, I see Ryan voted yes as well. Maybe RFD will affiliate with Newegg in the future and we get even better deals :cheesygri
Absolute
Jun 30th, 2005, 07:45 AM
Haha, I see Ryan voted yes as well. Maybe RFD will affiliate with Newegg in the future and we get even better deals :cheesygri
It would be great if RFD could establish itself with NewEgg even before they get here; NewEgg should see the support they have here on RFD, and will hopefully foster our support for them with some great deals ;)
Emancipated
Jun 30th, 2005, 09:27 AM
This has been a long time coming. I hope they don't turn out to be a big disappointment due to the prices. If they can meet or come close to offering prices similiar to the US market, they'll make a lot of Canadians happy.
Max_Dealing
Jun 30th, 2005, 09:49 AM
I am also looking for your feedbacks. also feel free to post what you would like to see from online retailers?[/SIZE]
IMHO NCIX should be the standard when it comes to on-line retailers. There system works well and they have good support.
Imitation is the highest form of flattery
BlueMax
Jun 30th, 2005, 10:08 AM
IMHO NCIX should be the standard when it comes to on-line retailers. There system works well and they have good support.
Imitation is the highest form of flattery
HA! Are you kidding? NCIX has mediocre support, mediocre shipping rates and quality, mediocre quality and mediocre prices. Not bad, but a lot of room for improvement.
And web design? No contest! Go to NewEgg.com and check out the motherboard search options. Puts every other site out there to SHAME!
Absolute
Jun 30th, 2005, 10:11 AM
HA! Are you kidding? NCIX has mediocre support, mediocre shipping rates and quality, mediocre quality and mediocre prices.
One of NCIX's features is that it relies on customers to patrol the product comments and forums to help out those buying products, offer advice, etc. That's a great idea I find, as generally I'd like to hear the opinion of those that have used the products, instead of a retailer trying to sell them.
The shipping rates are indeed bad, if NewEgg really wants to make a great impression they should offer free shipping (either all the time or every now and then, although the former is my preference).
gilboman
Jun 30th, 2005, 11:16 AM
well lets see, the vice-chairman of newegg is a Burnaby native
graduated from SFU Comp Sci...
good enough?
i dont have any concrete time frame to be given now
but id have to say by the end of 2005, things should be almost ready to go if not already operating
lol..NO...
canadian owned and opearted means the profits stay in canada. the nationality of one of the workers doesnt mean anything.
but prices in canada and GTA is already very competitive..i doubt newegg can have better prices than local retailers after factoring in any shipping costs.
they would have to be atleast 10% cheaper after ship and tax before i would bother buying from them since i could just drive 5min right now to cty or TD warehouse and get what i want at lowest prices in GTA
Headhunter
Jun 30th, 2005, 12:07 PM
Maybe...depends on how they make the translation to Canada. Considering how disreputable most hardware end-user retailers are in Toronto, I'd probably make the jump for specific parts.
LNahid2000
Jun 30th, 2005, 12:14 PM
HA! Are you kidding? NCIX has mediocre support, mediocre shipping rates and quality, mediocre quality and mediocre prices. Not bad, but a lot of room for improvement.
And web design? No contest! Go to NewEgg.com and check out the motherboard search options. Puts every other site out there to SHAME!
ncix is awesome. ive shopped online there many times. the prices are great if you buy from the newsletter. shipping is somewhat expensive but when you account for what you save not paying PST, shipping is almost free. and i love that they have message board threads about products on every page.
but with newegg's reputation, i would definitely shop there if the prices were cheaper than ncix.
Txiasaeia
Jun 30th, 2005, 01:24 PM
HA! Are you kidding? NCIX has mediocre support, mediocre shipping rates and quality, mediocre quality and mediocre prices. Not bad, but a lot of room for improvement.
Let me give you a little example of their support: I bought a Corsair 1GB ram kit from them at the beginning of May. I found out on Tuesday that it was defective. I emailed them that day asking for an RMA (even though it was way out of the 30 days RMA period). They agreed to it on Wednesday, and overnighted it to me on Thursday. *two days* it took them to get a working product out to me, and I didn't even have to pay for return shipping for the defective RAM. If that's not stellar customer service, I don't know what is.
The Digital Dolphin
Jun 30th, 2005, 01:36 PM
lol..NO...
canadian owned and opearted means the profits stay in canada. the nationality of one of the workers doesnt mean anything.
but prices in canada and GTA is already very competitive..i doubt newegg can have better prices than local retailers after factoring in any shipping costs.
they would have to be atleast 10% cheaper after ship and tax before i would bother buying from them since i could just drive 5min right now to cty or TD warehouse and get what i want at lowest prices in GTA
Exactly!
I have *NOTHING* against Newegg... in fact, I probably will buy from them on odd occasions. But the service I've received from NCIX has been nothing short of incredible, and I don't see any reason to stop doing business with them. They aren't perfect, but neither is Newegg, or any other company.
With Newegg coming to Canada, we can expect a few things. Maybe slightly (and I mean *SLIGHTLY*) lower shipping prices/product prices. But more likely then that, all they'll do is push out the smaller computer stores which will be less and less able to make any money. NCIX and TigerDirect are large companies, which already offer pretty competitive pricing compared to what Newegg would likely offer (unless they sell everything below cost all the time... which ISN'T going to happen).
We're going to see more selection, and more competition. More variety of things on sale at any given time, because it'll be one more big competitor. Over all, I think this can only be considered a good thing :)
But geez, the way people are talking on this thread, it's like you're expecting the second coming or something. Prices are NOT going to be 20% lower all of a sudden or anything like that.
Again, I have nothing against Newegg, but please, enough of the fan boy drool! :rolleyes:
Szeto
Jun 30th, 2005, 01:43 PM
dolphin !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sledbc
Jun 30th, 2005, 02:14 PM
Im with dolphin...NCIX is excellent, customer service is great......
but.....if Newegg has prices like they do in the states (6800 GT for $299 for months now and free shipping) I will be obligated to buy from them, besides, their customer service is excellent as well.
ChinpokoMon
Jun 30th, 2005, 02:49 PM
It'd be sweet if they make this item available in Canada too:
http://images10.newegg.com/productimage/96-101-314-07.JPG (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16896101314)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16896101314
It's supposed to be a magical rice cooker that makes the perfect rice everytime. :)
Killamajig
Jun 30th, 2005, 03:06 PM
It's fine for all you people in Toronto and Vancouver who have NCIX and CC etc. locally, but in other places like Ottawa and Montreal there arn't really any large computer stores. Sure there are some small local stores, and some of them are really good, but they don't always have good prices on sertain items. And also there selection is limited, and even if they can special order you a item, it is generally pretty expensive. One idea is ot have a warehouse in Quebec, close to the border so no PST, but still low shipping (I think). But to anwser your question, yes, I would buy from newegg.ca, but they should make sure they can have most of their american products, because I hate it when companies like BB have exactly the thing I need, but only in american stores. And also keep the prices low, and have nice sales.
Edit: And don't forget free shipping coupons!!!!
Szeto
Jun 30th, 2005, 03:28 PM
It'd be sweet if they make this item available in Canada too:
http://images10.newegg.com/productimage/96-101-314-07.JPG (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16896101314)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16896101314
It's supposed to be a magical rice cooker that makes the perfect rice everytime. :)
it's sold in chinese supermarket....
TnT ........
axeman
Jun 30th, 2005, 03:30 PM
anytime a new store wants to open and offer conpetitive pricing and price matching im all for it.ncix is ok but i can find lots of better prices in other places.so yes i will deal with newegg if they decide to come to canada :)
MrDisco
Jun 30th, 2005, 04:24 PM
Again, I have nothing against Newegg, but please, enough of the fan boy drool! :rolleyes:
little bit of the NCIX-fanboy jealousy there? :P
given that we have very very very few retailers we can purchase goods from (and by that retailers that we 1. trust 2. offers good service 3. offers good prices) the entry of NewEgg who by all accounts does meet those criteria can only be seen as a great thing. so yeah if there's a bit of overjoyment to this news I think its very well deserved.
The Digital Dolphin
Jun 30th, 2005, 05:43 PM
little bit of the NCIX-fanboy jealousy there? :P
given that we have very very very few retailers we can purchase goods from (and by that retailers that we 1. trust 2. offers good service 3. offers good prices) the entry of NewEgg who by all accounts does meet those criteria can only be seen as a great thing. so yeah if there's a bit of overjoyment to this news I think its very well deserved.
I've got no problem with that. I'm just wondering why people are making Newegg into the god of all electronics stores. Sure they're good, but they aren't THAT good.
I'm Not an NCIX fanboy. If I was, I wouldn't make the occasional gripe about them selling counterfeit Maxell CD-Rs, and knowingly purchasing CD-Rs from vendors in Canada that are breaking the law by not charging the levy. I'm also not a blankmedia.ca fanboy, if I was, I wouldn't be pissed off by the amount of grey market media they bring in all the time, with no guarentees about authenticity (does not apply to Taiyo Yuden or Maxell DVDRs only!).
MrDisco
Jun 30th, 2005, 05:53 PM
I've got no problem with that. I'm just wondering why people are making Newegg into the god of all electronics stores. Sure they're good, but they aren't THAT good.
it's because outside of NCIX who else can you name that will sell a wide range of computer parts at a fair price, offer good (or great) customer service, and will deal with all of Canada? Not many i would venture. FS is a little mainstream in their offerings and their prices aren't really that great. TD is a bit of a junkyard at times and their service can be iffy. so yeah we're just left with ncix. NE's entry means a real competitor for them and based on the american site should live upto the hype - if not they'll be butchered rather publicly i imagine :)
either that or we're all just really really desparate for some new retail blood
poppa
Jun 30th, 2005, 06:02 PM
Anyone concerned about Newegg's foray into Canada may mean to an end to some smaller retailers?
felix
Jun 30th, 2005, 06:17 PM
One of NCIX's features is that it relies on customers to patrol the product comments and forums to help out those buying products, offer advice, etc. That's a great idea I find, as generally I'd like to hear the opinion of those that have used the products, instead of a retailer trying to sell them.
I agree, and that's one of their selling points. I like how they don't edit/remove people's comments on their forums (unlike other shopping websites ... like futurecrap).
Anyway, we're looking forward to seeing this NewEgg here in Canada! Would like to see it here in the east though since you guys already have too many computer shops over there ... but oh well! :)
mrrman
Jun 30th, 2005, 07:31 PM
I currently buy from the US site and have it shipped to my friends place and pick up my stuff regularly. I would buy from Newegg.ca as long as the Canadians are not gouged on taxes,shipping and price of products. Living on the west coast(Vancouver) we have access to some of the best online/retail Asian computer dealers that are hard to beat or match. That would be the challenge as I am a deal seeker and I look for the best prices online/retail and from the US. Typically the best deals are online from retailers like Newegg,MonarchComputers,Buy.com etc so it would have to beat their competitors. My 2 cents.
rahzel
Jun 30th, 2005, 07:55 PM
id like Newegg to come to Canada, but that doesnt mean ill stop buying from NCIX. Ive been a customer to NCIX for years and ive never had a problem with anything...
Amourek
Jun 30th, 2005, 08:12 PM
NewEgg has @cking crazy customer service. You can return a CPU if you don't like the stepping you receive. :!:
dvdvideo
Jun 30th, 2005, 08:26 PM
I'll be happy about this only if they have the same competative pricing all the same product lines they carry in the U.S.
It's silly to say they are creating new jobs, as they will be putting other computer stores out of business. The net will be no new jobs in canada, since 99% of us already purcahase from canada.
Sgt_Strider
Jun 30th, 2005, 08:27 PM
Is it confirmed that Newegg is coming to Canada? If so when? I've done some shopping with Newegg when I was in the U.S and let me just say that they're great! I honestly don't care if they destroy NCIX, Anitec, or any other computer companies. I obviously want the lowest possible prices for my computer components backed up with great CS and RMA policies. NCIX is probably one of the best when compared to other computer stores, but I don't quite like their CS.
MrDisco
Jun 30th, 2005, 08:29 PM
Anyone concerned about Newegg's foray into Canada may mean to an end to some smaller retailers?
not me. most small retailers i've dealt with have terrible customer service. if they can't compete then they should be killed off.
Sgt_Strider
Jun 30th, 2005, 08:30 PM
ooh i see ncix_tech viewing this thread
lol
he voted no
lol
duh
the only people who would vote no are the competition
LMAO! I bet NCIX staff must have wet their pants knowing how damaging it would be if Newegg comes to Canada.
callous
Jun 30th, 2005, 08:30 PM
NewEgg has @cking crazy customer service. You can return a CPU if you don't like the stepping you receive. :!:
I dont know who told you that... but as of last summer none of their cpus specify the steppings being sold. And not liking a stepping is not a valid refund excuse according to them.
Fantaz
Jun 30th, 2005, 09:42 PM
Yeah! I heard they have the best deals.
Hopefully we'll be able to get some good deals.
callous
Jun 30th, 2005, 10:14 PM
If there are any major problems, we can always ***** out Evil Techie.
His dad's the vice-chairman of Newegg in the US :lol:
BoxsterS
Jun 30th, 2005, 10:21 PM
One thing you should know about NewEgg is that they don't price match. Nor will they credit you the difference if the item you just purchesed a couple of days ago goes on sale. I've tried and was informed of their policy. The NewEgg love in is nice, but like every retailer - they're not perfect.
Evil Techie
Jun 30th, 2005, 10:28 PM
If there are any major problems, we can always ***** out Evil Techie.
His dad's the vice-chairman of Newegg in the US :lol:
no my father is not the vice-chairman of newegg
lol vice-chairman of newegg is not old enough to be my dad
radeonboy
Jul 1st, 2005, 12:13 AM
Damn I would buy from NewEgg. They should and always, mostly, have products from other companies that FS, or any other computer store in T.O have such as iAudio, CoolMax, iRiver, etc, the good name brands that other stores dont have or never heard of.
Bring it NewEgg! DAYUM RIGHT! :D
Edit: Newegg.ca is already registered so I guess its coming sooner or later.
JLee
Jul 1st, 2005, 03:04 AM
if this is true, we'll see how good it'll be =)
poyzen
Jul 1st, 2005, 05:13 PM
"At the end of next year, we believe we will expand to Canada, maybe the UK and Japan,"
"Newegg tech shop sees IPO to fund global expansion" (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/tech_china_newegg_dc)
Nismo
Jul 1st, 2005, 05:22 PM
lets hope it wont be like tigerdirect.
felix
Jul 1st, 2005, 05:34 PM
It's silly to say they are creating new jobs, as they will be putting other computer stores out of business. The net will be no new jobs in canada, since 99% of us already purcahase from canada.
Yup, but for those popular but rare gems we still have to import from US/UK. Take for example the Aerocool VM-101 VGA heatpipe cooler I was looking for a while back. I bought the last one from ScammerDirect, and no other Canadian stores are carrying it that I know of other than that byte..whatever store in kingston with rip off prices.
Hopefully NewEgg will carry those items from the US we can't get anywhere else in Canada. I'm so jealous they get all the good stuff, and stores out west seem to get new products in stock sooner than the east coast for some reason. :(
If there are any major problems, we can always ***** out Evil Techie.
His dad's the vice-chairman of Newegg in the US :lol:
I thought his dad was the CEO of NewEgg?
callous
Jul 1st, 2005, 07:22 PM
I thought his dad was the CEO of NewEgg?
Some senior executive for sure. I dont feel like dragging up the other thread from march or april to check... heh heh I guess he said too much back then.
Someone will ***** him out if something goes wrong with their newegg-canada experience :lol:
felix
Jul 1st, 2005, 07:38 PM
Some senior executive for sure. I dont feel like dragging up the other thread from march or april to check... heh heh I guess he said too much back then.
Actually, he's mentioned it a few times already ... so he's not hiding anything. :D
http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1350826&post=1350826
http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1221072&post=1221072
http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1574368&post=1574368
definately an executive laptop
my dad is the CEO of newegg, he uses X31...
he wants a VAIO S now though
needs a cdrom drive
jaigandhi5
Jul 1st, 2005, 07:58 PM
WOW
This is amazing
why did i not see this thread earlier
i always used to whine on why canada always gets bad deals and the US get all the good deals from newegg
but now :-0 :-0 :-0 :-0
:D :D
The Digital Dolphin
Jul 1st, 2005, 09:41 PM
LMAO! I bet NCIX staff must have wet their pants knowing how damaging it would be if Newegg comes to Canada.
Actually, having spoken to them about this, they could really care less.
I'm confused, why do people keep thinking this :confused:
pcguy
Jul 1st, 2005, 11:14 PM
Actually, having spoken to them about this, they could really care less.
I'm confused, why do people keep thinking this :confused:
I guess that they figure that
NCIX prices are higher than NewEgg's and that would draw away the NCIX customers
or
NCIX customers would abandon them in favour of a company with less frustration dealing with customer service on the phone
jm20
Jul 2nd, 2005, 01:29 AM
I would only buy from newegg should they NOT have a warehouse in ontario, hence no PST :twisted:
gilboman
Jul 2nd, 2005, 03:56 AM
I would only buy from newegg should they NOT have a warehouse in ontario, hence no PST :twisted:
the shipping even at near cost will kill any savings..just like buying from the out of province comp stores now like ncix and anitec
totally not worth it to buy from those places if from ontario where prices are cheaper than them on most items by a good margin already.
Amourek
Jul 2nd, 2005, 04:07 AM
They should set up in Alberta. Then no one will have to pay PST. :D
Sgt_Strider
Jul 2nd, 2005, 04:34 AM
Actually, having spoken to them about this, they could really care less.
I'm confused, why do people keep thinking this :confused:
And you honestly believe them? Well if NCIX ain't scared, then all I have to say is....let the games begin :rolleyes:.
One thing is for sure and that the consumers will benefit from this.
Sgt_Strider
Jul 2nd, 2005, 04:34 AM
They should set up in Alberta. Then no one will have to pay PST. :D
Great idea! Also if they set up operations in Alberta, they better give BC ppl cheap shipping options!
Warlock
Jul 2nd, 2005, 05:14 AM
*shrug*
End of the day,
Total costs need to be considered.
Item costs, taxes (where applicable), shipping (if any), stock selection...
This is RFD after all. :)
jm20
Jul 2nd, 2005, 03:36 PM
*shrug*
End of the day,
Total costs need to be considered.
Item costs, taxes (where applicable), shipping (if any), stock selection...
This is RFD after all. :)
That always happens :razz:
elty
Jul 2nd, 2005, 04:08 PM
if theyh have 2 warehouse, then I guess they will estabilish themselves as a national business? if so then you have to pay full tax no matter where u order
The Digital Dolphin
Jul 2nd, 2005, 05:22 PM
One thing is for sure and that the consumers will benefit from this.
Unless the market gets so continually saturated with price errosion that companies are forced to reduce quality standards in order to make price reductions.... like exactly what happened with Fuji, and Maxell. Then everyone loses.
But it's really easy to think that continually getting lower prices is only a good thing... but that's because you only look at it from one angle. Ever since I've begun working directly with many of these companies, I've gained a whole new appreciation for paying the WORTH of a product, so as not to lose it.
Bskll
Jul 2nd, 2005, 05:32 PM
Good thing about newegg is availibility of stock and nice web design. if they extend that here, they will rock despite not having rock bottom prices.
Evil Techie
Jul 2nd, 2005, 05:52 PM
Bskll is right
what newegg will bring here into canada may not be the best price
but the best uniform quality service possible that so many millions in the US praise for
price is not the biggest factor that draws customers to NewEgg.com
it is the service that will also be brought to Canada and the whole standard will hopefully be risen
that being said, prices at newegg are still competitive even thought they may not always have the lowest around
but if you want all rounded shopping experience, newegg is the name you can count on
Bskll
Jul 2nd, 2005, 06:02 PM
newegg website = drool
newegg customer service = $10 more expensive
newegg having stuff in stock = priceless
Sgt_Strider
Jul 2nd, 2005, 08:48 PM
Unless the market gets so continually saturated with price errosion that companies are forced to reduce quality standards in order to make price reductions.... like exactly what happened with Fuji, and Maxell. Then everyone loses.
But it's really easy to think that continually getting lower prices is only a good thing... but that's because you only look at it from one angle. Ever since I've begun working directly with many of these companies, I've gained a whole new appreciation for paying the WORTH of a product, so as not to lose it.
I've never had as much bad CS coming from a big corporation than from a small computer store. I've had an argument with a noob at Anitec one time over an hard drive issue in which I know he was wrong, but he refused to make an exchange. What I had is probably an isolated incident, but nonetheless, I had more coming from smaller stores. Maybe it's worth it paying more for a little more service and I still do occasionally because I have effectively stopped shopping from Anitec ever since that incident back in February.
Sgt_Strider
Jul 2nd, 2005, 08:49 PM
Bskll is right
what newegg will bring here into canada may not be the best price
but the best uniform quality service possible that so many millions in the US praise for
price is not the biggest factor that draws customers to NewEgg.com
it is the service that will also be brought to Canada and the whole standard will hopefully be risen
that being said, prices at newegg are still competitive even thought they may not always have the lowest around
but if you want all rounded shopping experience, newegg is the name you can count on
The fact is that no store will ever have the lowest possible price for all computer components. When I was down in the U.S and I was doing my shopping for computer equipments, over half of my components were the cheapest at newegg. Of course where newegg was more expensive, I went to ZZF :).
felix
Jul 2nd, 2005, 11:11 PM
The fact is that no store will ever have the lowest possible price for all computer components.
Agreed. For my last computer build I had to buy from 5 different stores just because the parts were either too new to be in stock or I found a better price elsewhere (and that's factoring in shipping and taxes). :)
gilboman
Jul 3rd, 2005, 10:35 AM
Bskll is right
what newegg will bring here into canada may not be the best price
but the best uniform quality service possible that so many millions in the US praise for
price is not the biggest factor that draws customers to NewEgg.com
it is the service that will also be brought to Canada and the whole standard will hopefully be risen
that being said, prices at newegg are still competitive even thought they may not always have the lowest around
but if you want all rounded shopping experience, newegg is the name you can count on
a mail order company like newegg can never match the service of a good local computer store ;) its just reality that can never change, the only thing it can do is compete on price but never service.
e.g. smth wrong with my computer i dont know if its ram, mobo or cpus, i bring it to cty, they test out wats wrong using their parts, tell me whats wrong. all without charge or obligation to buy.
or i buy smth at another store and its doa or not working properly, with newegg i still have to wait for them to send me another one for atleast few days even if they dont require receipt of original before shpping it out.
heck even with canadacomputers, my friend bought sony dvdburner, i told him they suck so he exchanges it a hour later for a pioneer.
newegg can never match this and if it doesnt even offer prices lower by signifigant margin after shipping, there's no point buying from them at all.
only place newegg would do good is remote areas or cities away from the GTA or GVR where there are less computer stores with competitive prices. but most of the market in canada is concentrated in GTA and GVR.
newegg will find canada to be much different than US in terms of the market and will be less successful
Bskll
Jul 3rd, 2005, 01:32 PM
no it won't. go to newegg.com and see for yourself.
Sgt_Strider
Jul 4th, 2005, 02:26 AM
a mail order company like newegg can never match the service of a good local computer store ;) its just reality that can never change, the only thing it can do is compete on price but never service.
e.g. smth wrong with my computer i dont know if its ram, mobo or cpus, i bring it to cty, they test out wats wrong using their parts, tell me whats wrong. all without charge or obligation to buy.
or i buy smth at another store and its doa or not working properly, with newegg i still have to wait for them to send me another one for atleast few days even if they dont require receipt of original before shpping it out.
heck even with canadacomputers, my friend bought sony dvdburner, i told him they suck so he exchanges it a hour later for a pioneer.
newegg can never match this and if it doesnt even offer prices lower by signifigant margin after shipping, there's no point buying from them at all.
only place newegg would do good is remote areas or cities away from the GTA or GVR where there are less computer stores with competitive prices. but most of the market in canada is concentrated in GTA and GVR.
newegg will find canada to be much different than US in terms of the market and will be less successful
I disagree with you there. I don't find CS to be that good in many of the computer stores in Vancouver. I upgrade EVERY year and I usually have a minor problem in terms of CS with Anitec, NCIX. They're small and I can understand they may be more picky in some areas like RMA. I think Newegg will bring in some fresh air to Canadian computer shoppers. I've had good experience with Newegg and I can only hope they can bring the same experience to Canadian users.
Evil Techie
Jul 4th, 2005, 02:29 AM
I disagree with you there. I don't find CS to be that good in many of the computer stores in Vancouver. I upgrade EVERY year and I usually have a minor problem in terms of CS with Anitec, NCIX. They're small and I can understand they may be more picky in some areas like RMA. I think Newegg will bring in some fresh air to Canadian computer shoppers. I've had good experience with Newegg and I can only hope they can bring the same experience to Canadian users.
you can count on it
the reason why it has taken so long for newegg to plan for this expansion into canada is because they want to do things the best way they can
never ever sacrafice the quality of the service
webdoctors
Jul 4th, 2005, 03:34 AM
tell them to open a store in MArkham and hire me and give ma scholarship in skule so i can build better products for newegg which results in less RMA's, :D
The Digital Dolphin
Jul 4th, 2005, 03:40 AM
I disagree with you there. I don't find CS to be that good in many of the computer stores in Vancouver. I upgrade EVERY year and I usually have a minor problem in terms of CS with Anitec, NCIX. They're small and I can understand they may be more picky in some areas like RMA. I think Newegg will bring in some fresh air to Canadian computer shoppers. I've had good experience with Newegg and I can only hope they can bring the same experience to Canadian users.
How can you compare Anitec with NCIX? They aren't on the same level at all... not by a long shot! if you want to compare someone to NCIX, it's Memory Express or BCom. I know Anitec, and I know NCIX, and NCIX is 10x bigger. Anitec talks big, but when the going gets tough, they are just another small fry. If you completely ignore the fact that NCIX has 3 locations AND a warehouse, and Anitec only has one location, which doubles as a warehouse (and no proper loading bay!!!!), then at least look at the selection and order volume difference between the two companies.
gilboman
Jul 4th, 2005, 05:03 AM
I disagree with you there. I don't find CS to be that good in many of the computer stores in Vancouver. I upgrade EVERY year and I usually have a minor problem in terms of CS with Anitec, NCIX. They're small and I can understand they may be more picky in some areas like RMA. I think Newegg will bring in some fresh air to Canadian computer shoppers. I've had good experience with Newegg and I can only hope they can bring the same experience to Canadian users.
i guess you've been unlucky, but how can you expect a mail order company to be responsive to your needs? lag time waiting to initally get product, lag time to ship defective back/get replacement not to mention higher prices as well.
i've had lots of good experiences in GTA with smaller computer stores and yes including canada computers even. bought cpu, went home, didnt bootup, went back two days later got replacment, still didnt boot up went back but they tested it and found it working, turned out my mobo was fried since cpu was working. no hassle at all, just a smile from the guy and told me to buy mobo and cpu at same place to make it easier to fix problems.
cty has been even better and tigerdirect store has been excellent as well.
newegg is nothing more than a mail order store and as such can never ever hope to achieve the customer service attainable from a local store.
gilboman
Jul 4th, 2005, 05:09 AM
you can count on it
the reason why it has taken so long for newegg to plan for this expansion into canada is because they want to do things the best way they can
never ever sacrafice the quality of the service
unless they can find a way to have comparble prices after shipping and match the quickness of local stores, they are only gonna get b usiness from the rurual locations with no access to cheap PC parts like in GTA and GVR, canada's populaiton is much more concentrated than the US with only a couple of large mearkets which are already saturated with competitively priced computer stores, that can sell/exchange goods instantaneously instead of 3-5business days like newegg. and god forbid you need to exchange/refund products, another 3-5business minimum day wait whereas local store can be done in 1 day with cheaper prices compared to the two weeks with newegg :lol: ;)
mail order companies by definition can not be responsive to the customer, its just the business model. but i'm sure a lot of misinformed people who have no access to the plentiful local stores will goto newegg and who dont care about waiting a couple weeks for something they could get cheaper at a local store.
mempf
Jul 4th, 2005, 05:51 AM
I would without I doubt buy from newegg.ca. I've been watching newegg.com for a few years wishing that they would start shipping to canada. AND NOW THEY WILL!
BTW, Do you know whether they will open by the end of 2005 or will it be sometime in 2006 or beyond.
Thanks Newegg!
Jon Lai
Jul 4th, 2005, 08:10 AM
I would definately buy from newegg, well, if they:
-have the same low prices as the americans do
-have the same low/free shipping rates as americans do
-have the same RESPECT for canadians as they do to americans
otherwise, it gives me no reason to buy from them.
Tofu Drift Shinji
Jul 4th, 2005, 10:26 AM
I can't wait to see Newegg in Canada. Hopefully, we'll see the kind of discounts and quick shipping that Americans see with Newegg.com.
andjules
Jul 4th, 2005, 10:28 AM
-have the same low prices as the americans do
-have the same low/free shipping rates as americans do
-have the same RESPECT for canadians as they do to americans
I think you'll find what you like for #3, but with regards to #1 & 2, they simply don't have to be QUITE as inexpensive to be competitive in Canada. Take Dell.ca for example: they're cheaper than their competitors (in Canada), but not quite as cheap (generally) as dell.com.
mempf
Jul 4th, 2005, 05:10 PM
So is this offical? Are they coming to canada in the next year?
Evil Techie
Jul 5th, 2005, 02:20 AM
many of u brought on many good suggestions and points, i will relay them to newegg
thank you all
Evil Techie
Jul 5th, 2005, 02:21 AM
So is this offical? Are they coming to canada in the next year?
yes
well not completely official but close enuf :)
Neil
Jul 5th, 2005, 02:29 AM
yes
well not completely official but close enuf :)
To answer your poll, hell yes but with the condition they don't do it like Dell Canada and make the Canadian version a watered-down lower-value offering than the US version.
I'm a wee bit concerned that you are running their market research, nothing against you specifically just that it seems a little half baked to be putting a poll on RFD to determine if they should expand to Canada.
If you are just doing this on your own initiative, then I would wonder why they are sharing their expansion plans with a free agent rather than in a more formal manner.
mempf
Jul 5th, 2005, 02:51 AM
To answer your poll, hell yes but with the condition they don't do it like Dell Canada and make the Canadian version a watered-down lower-value offering than the US version.
I'm a wee bit concerned that you are running their market research, nothing against you specifically just that it seems a little half baked to be putting a poll on RFD to determine if they should expand to Canada.
If you are just doing this on your own initiative, then I would wonder why they are sharing their expansion plans with a free agent rather than in a more formal manner.
I think i'm going to have to agree with Neil on this.
felix
Jul 5th, 2005, 03:20 AM
If you are just doing this on your own initiative, then I would wonder why they are sharing their expansion plans with a free agent rather than in a more formal manner.
Maybe it's because he trusts the opinions of fellow RFD'ers? :)
mempf
Jul 5th, 2005, 03:23 AM
Yeah but why no offical annoncment?
Ren
Jul 5th, 2005, 03:41 AM
Yeah but why no offical annoncment?
Just be surprised when they show up next year.
Absolute
Jul 5th, 2005, 10:22 AM
If you are just doing this on your own initiative, then I would wonder why they are sharing their expansion plans with a free agent rather than in a more formal manner.
As I recall Evil Techie's father is the CEO of NewEgg? If so, than it would be easy for him Evil Techie to hear of the plans before an official announcement is made.
Perhaps he doesn't have their permission to announce their plans ;)
Evil Techie
Jul 5th, 2005, 12:06 PM
Hi everyone,
Thank you all for the responses so far. Whether it is critism or welcoming, it will all help NewEgg to service you better.
For now, I dont think I should be related on the forum anymore to the CEO of NewEgg as there is a security concern for me.
Also I posted this thread on RFD with the permission of Ryan as I called the Contact Us number before posting.
I was asked by the Assistant Manager of Corporate Planning to bring this news informally to Canadians and I thought this would be the best place to do it and might bring some more traffic into RFD.
So I am in no way related to marketing research companies nor do I get paid for everything I do.
It has been almost a year since I have been asking the Chairman of NewEgg (a very nice guy, very modest too) in person to bring NewEgg here as the Canadian market definately needs more variety of products. Now after the company released an IPO and is strong enough to expand into Canada, it will be come a reality.
NewEgg will have competitive pricing, that is not something you have to worry about. Everyone knows that pricing is important but what NewEgg also knows is that service is the upmost important key in making their customers happy. They will follow their original motto of quality service and carry that here with them. Along with the name NewEgg, there will be quality service, competitive pricing, a wide variety of products and much more.
I have been getting very excited, you?
mempf
Jul 5th, 2005, 03:22 PM
Hi everyone,
Thank you all for the responses so far. Whether it is critism or welcoming, it will all help NewEgg to service you better.
For now, I dont think I should be related on the forum anymore to the CEO of NewEgg as there is a security concern for me.
Also I posted this thread on RFD with the permission of Ryan as I called the Contact Us number before posting.
I was asked by the Assistant Manager of Corporate Planning to bring this news informally to Canadians and I thought this would be the best place to do it and might bring some more traffic into RFD.
So I am in no way related to marketing research companies nor do I get paid for everything I do.
It has been almost a year since I have been asking the Chairman of NewEgg (a very nice guy, very modest too) in person to bring NewEgg here as the Canadian market definately needs more variety of products. Now after the company released an IPO and is strong enough to expand into Canada, it will be come a reality.
NewEgg will have competitive pricing, that is not something you have to worry about. Everyone knows that pricing is important but what NewEgg also knows is that service is the upmost important key in making their customers happy. They will follow their original motto of quality service and carry that here with them. Along with the name NewEgg, there will be quality service, competitive pricing, a wide variety of products and much more.
I have been getting very excited, you?
For sure!
I'm getting tired of NCIX or Vibecomputers or even tigerdirect not having the items I need or being out of stock for months at a time. From what I hear from my American friends, newegg is the best of the best.
Thanks Newegg and Evil Techie for sharing this news with us.
Also Evil Techie if you can when you get an ETA till newegg opens in Canada can you please share it here with us.
Thanks
Evil Techie
Jul 5th, 2005, 03:39 PM
It is hard to give you an ETA now as things are still in the planning stage
once NewEgg goes into execution stage with their firm plans, then ETA will be much more accurate and meaningful
mean while, i can probably say it would be Q4 2005 or Q1/Q2 2006
sleepyguy
Jul 5th, 2005, 03:43 PM
That would be indeed awesome if newegg.com were here... I'd think i'd be single though with all the $$$ i'd be spending ;)
callous
Jul 5th, 2005, 04:01 PM
Please tell newegg canada not to use purolator.. those guys have a very bad habit of dropping off packages at the door without ringing the doorbell, or without signature as is required on some packages.
Customers wont be happy if packages go missing.
Evil Techie
Jul 5th, 2005, 04:24 PM
oh yeah no way NewEgg will use Purolator
first of all, ive had bad experiences with purolator too and since newegg is all about making their customers happy, there is no way purolator wil be used
secondly, i dont think purolator will have enough capacity to handle newegg
thirdly, newegg has very good contracts with fedex and UPS in the states
so they will probably deal with their corporate office since newegg is fedex's biggest customer in the states
shipping cost will be sooo low that it is almost nothing to the consumers
Absolute
Jul 5th, 2005, 04:26 PM
Please tell newegg canada not to use purolator.. those guys have a very bad habit of dropping off packages at the door without ringing the doorbell, or without signature as is required on some packages.
Customers wont be happy if packages go missing.
Agreed; I also dislike their "one delivery attempt only" policy, I mush prefer how UPS make multiple attempts and gives you the option to have the package left at another location, or just left there if no one is home.
Absolute
Jul 5th, 2005, 04:28 PM
shipping cost will be sooo low that it is almost nothing to the consumers
You have no idea how happy that sentence makes me, in my mind a savings in shipping outweighs savings on an item, as a high shipping price often cancels out any "sale" price on an item.
sleepyguy
Jul 5th, 2005, 04:37 PM
All I know is if newegg comes to canada ncix and tigerdirect will be losing alot of customers.
Absolute
Jul 5th, 2005, 05:28 PM
All I know is if newegg comes to canada ncix and tigerdirect will be losing alot of customers.
Quite true, although I'm not sure if it will be as severe as some people expect. There are those who have become fed up with those two companies and will not buy from them out of principle, those are the ones they will definately lose.
For those that haven't been entirely turned off of TD and NCIX, those companies will have to rethink their business plans if they are smart, and start offering better sales and cheaper (or free) shipping. If they do so than they may keep some of that "swing" group, even if having the additional competitor reduces the amount of revenue they receive.
gilboman
Jul 5th, 2005, 05:32 PM
oh yeah no way NewEgg will use Purolator
first of all, ive had bad experiences with purolator too and since newegg is all about making their customers happy, there is no way purolator wil be used
secondly, i dont think purolator will have enough capacity to handle newegg
thirdly, newegg has very good contracts with fedex and UPS in the states
so they will probably deal with their corporate office since newegg is fedex's biggest customer in the states
shipping cost will be sooo low that it is almost nothing to the consumers
purolator has capacity to handle newegg no problem, purolator is not some mickey mouse operation. they are the largest in canada in terms of domestic volume..if they dont have the volume, fedex wont come close ;)
purolator handles more than a million packages a day... newegg canada wont even come close to FS's volume and FS switched to purolator no problem. fedex is prolly 3rd in canada behind purolator, UPS.
purolator dwarfs fedex and UPS TOGETHER in canada ;)
Evil Techie
Jul 5th, 2005, 06:27 PM
purolator grew because of FS
and with FS, there is not much room for newegg
you probably have no idea how big newegg's operation in the states is
2 full trailers of fedex trucks per day from each warehouse
thats low season
high season they need 2-4 trailors for each warehouse
and 7 warehouses in the states for newegg
not like 3-4 warehouses for FS
and capacity, i mean sustainability
doing a large amount of parcels without sacraficing even a tiny bit of service quality is a crucial factor for newegg
hence purolator is out of the picture
unless they change drastically though
but ill still advise newegg to stay away from "purolater"
always get you package "later" than now
Absolute
Jul 5th, 2005, 06:34 PM
purolator handles more than a million packages a day... newegg canada wont even come close to FS's volume and FS switched to purolator no problem. fedex is prolly 3rd in canada behind purolator, UPS.
purolator dwarfs fedex and UPS TOGETHER in canada ;)
Don't forget that FS is only using Purolator because of UPS's strike in the fall. Purolator is far behind UPS in terms of service and customer satisfaction.
Evil Techie
Jul 5th, 2005, 06:40 PM
fedex isnt 3rd in canada
i see a lot of their trucks around all the time
and if newegg needs fedex to handle that amount of volume, then fedex will increase the amount that they can handle by expanding too
anyways
this expansion of newegg will sure create a lot of jobs
gilboman
Jul 5th, 2005, 06:52 PM
fedex isnt 3rd in canada
i see a lot of their trucks around all the time
and if newegg needs fedex to handle that amount of volume, then fedex will increase the amount that they can handle by expanding too
anyways
this expansion of newegg will sure create a lot of jobs
FACT fedex canada has 1,600 vehicles
FACT Puolator has 3,702 courier trucks alone ;)
fedex on international scale is obviously much larger than purolator..but in canada... fedex is nowhere near purolator.
in terms of packages volume fedex is number 3 in canada ;)
fedex is number 3 in the world though behind DHL and UPS
and newegg is a smalltime player compared to FS and Dell in canada..and dell and FS and Bestbuy all use purolator
unless you want to suggest newegg canada is gonna ship more stuff than dell canada :lol: :lol: :lol:
Absolute
Jul 5th, 2005, 06:56 PM
FACT fedex canada has 1,600 vehicles
FACT Puolator has 3,702 courier trucks alone ;)
fedex on international scale is obviously much larger than purolator..but in canada... fedex is nowhere near purolator.
Just curious....are you a Purolator employee, or connected in any way to it?
gilboman
Jul 5th, 2005, 06:56 PM
fedex isnt 3rd in canada
i see a lot of their trucks around all the time
and if newegg needs fedex to handle that amount of volume, then fedex will increase the amount that they can handle by expanding too
anyways
this expansion of newegg will sure create a lot of jobs
how many jobs is a lot? doubt newegg is gonna even employ close to 200 jobs in canada since they only employ 900 in the entire organization :lol:
not much jobs in canada thats for sure
also for sure profits wont stay in canada as well.
gilboman
Jul 5th, 2005, 06:57 PM
Just curious....are you a Purolator employee, or connected in any way to it?
no..i'm just aware of the vast differences in scale of operation between purolator and fedex in canada
The Digital Dolphin
Jul 5th, 2005, 07:37 PM
no..i'm just aware of the vast differences in scale of operation between purolator and fedex in canada
I agree with you actually. My workplace does a LOT of shipping, and all our non-local BC stuff goes Purolator simply because FedEx and UPS have screwed up so much. I personally have had a bad experience with UPS and FedEx almost EVERY shipment from them, especially if they are coming in from the U.S. (although the problem ALWAYS happens within Canada).
FedEx has opened and taken things from my packages, not to mention telling me that my house does not exist (the rep calmly assured me I must be mistaken about the location of my house... while I was calling her from there!).
UPS is *better* then FedEx, but so small an unorganized, not to mention the staff have a habit of lying when you call them and things have gone wrong. In the U.S. then it is no question that FedEx and UPS are the way to go (usually UPS though), but in Canada, neither of them can touch Purolator for service or reliability.
Unfortunately, if NewEgg decides to use UPS and FedEx only, I will have to not purchase from there if at all possible, since I know in many cases the product will never reach my house, and will have to be adjusted to ship to my workplace, which means I need to carry it home on the bus, and therefor defeats the purpose of shipping it to me in the first place.
But I'm assuming that nothing is written in stone at this point, so I'll cross my fingers that NewEgg will at least offer Purolator.
radeonboy
Jul 5th, 2005, 07:51 PM
I have never had nothing wrong with UPS before on my side. FedEx on the other hand was a biatch to work with...as they lost my products, etc.
alkapone
Jul 5th, 2005, 07:54 PM
...was this mentioned?
I dont believe canadians can bill CDN/ship US. Confirm anyone?
webdoctors
Jul 5th, 2005, 09:21 PM
seriously, Newegg won't penetrate the GTA market which is really competitive and huge. Its good for ppl in da middle of nowhere, PEI, Nova Scotia, Alberta, even maybe da westcoast, although they have NCIX. I have never found NewEgg cheaper than CTY, CanadaSys, etc. BUT NewEgg has a lot more selection, so I do check them out whenever I can't find soemthing somewhere else. Its different in da states, they dont have these cheap mom and pop PC stores like we do, thats why Dell can make a killing there.
I don't think NewEgg will change the landscape of the main channel of PC system and parts sales. Although for the rare or specialty item ppl will go to them, but the big sales numbers R in system/parts sales.
gilboman
Jul 5th, 2005, 09:35 PM
ohhhhh
but seriously, Newegg won't penetrate the GTA market which is really competitive and huge. Its good for ppl in da middle of nowhere, PEI, Nova Scotia, Alberta, even maybe da westcoast, although they have NCIX. I have never found NewEgg cheaper than CTY, CanadaSys, etc. BUT NewEgg has a lot more selection, so I do check them out whenever I can't find soemthing somewhere else. Its different in da states, they dont have these cheap mom and pop PC stores like we do, thats why Dell can make a killing there.
I don't think NewEgg will change the landscape of the main channel of PC system and parts sales. Although for the rare or specialty item ppl will go to them, but the big sales numbers R in system/parts sales.
exactly.. newegg wont make much of an impact in the major markets of GTA,GVR b/c we are already saturated with very low margin computer stores. no computer stores like newegg that rely on shipping products can come close to competing on price.
newegg canada would only be viable for those without access to the GTA/GVR market and thus, avilable accessible canadian market to newegg is miniscule.
Absolute
Jul 5th, 2005, 09:51 PM
newegg canada would only be viable for those without access to the GTA/GVR market and thus, avilable accessible canadian market to newegg is miniscule.
Wow..... when I was in school I was taught that the majority of the Canadian population lived outside of the GVA/GTA. :)
I know they would be great for Ottawa, which has alot of computer stores, but not all carry good prices.
felix
Jul 5th, 2005, 11:12 PM
hence purolator is out of the picture
unless they change drastically though
but ill still advise newegg to stay away from "purolater"
always get you package "later" than now
Agreed. I avoid try to avoid having my packages shipped via PuroNever if at all possible! Even if I have to pay a little extra for other options! :mad:
Evil Techie
Jul 5th, 2005, 11:30 PM
well i guess that if there is enough of a demand for it, perhaps newegg can work something out with purolator too
gilboman
Jul 5th, 2005, 11:57 PM
Wow..... when I was in school I was taught that the majority of the Canadian population lived outside of the GVA/GTA. :)
I know they would be great for Ottawa, which has alot of computer stores, but not all carry good prices.
not the market for computer goods ;)
mempf
Jul 6th, 2005, 12:30 AM
well i guess that if there is enough of a demand for it, perhaps newegg can work something out with purolator too
WEll as long as one shipping option is with UPS or Fedex its fine by me
gman
Jul 6th, 2005, 12:52 AM
exactly.. newegg wont make much of an impact in the major markets of GTA,GVR b/c we are already saturated with very low margin computer stores. no computer stores like newegg that rely on shipping products can come close to competing on price.
newegg canada would only be viable for those without access to the GTA/GVR market and thus, avilable accessible canadian market to newegg is miniscule.
If they stay out of Ontario, they will get sale from Ontarian if the price is right. Since I buy stuff from ncix, I don't see why I won't buy stuff from Newegg if the price is right. Saving 7% PST is good.
gilboman
Jul 6th, 2005, 01:03 AM
If they stay out of Ontario, they will get sale from Ontarian if the price is right. Since I buy stuff from ncix, I don't see why I won't buy stuff from Newegg if the price is right. Saving 7% PST is good.
i've never found anything from ncix worth it after shipping and insurance.
i've really tried, from LCD mon's to dvd burners to ram, bundling unbundling..prices are always same or more expensive than if i went to cty or mingtech.
their regular prices are higher by quite a bit already but their sale stuff after shipping/insurance is a ripp off. not to mention i need to wait 2-7business days and cant check out product before i buy and if i need exchange/return due to defects its gonna be more time to ship back and forth
if buying from ncix check out mingtech or cty or TigerDirect store (TD store is cheaper than web prices i find) first
mempf
Jul 12th, 2005, 04:10 AM
Will newegg.ca have the same stuff as newegg.com?
(Do we know)
Thanks
ZeeTX
Jul 12th, 2005, 09:30 AM
i've never found anything from ncix worth it after shipping and insurance.
i've really tried, from LCD mon's to dvd burners to ram, bundling unbundling..prices are always same or more expensive than if i went to cty or mingtech.
their regular prices are higher by quite a bit already but their sale stuff after shipping/insurance is a ripp off. not to mention i need to wait 2-7business days and cant check out product before i buy and if i need exchange/return due to defects its gonna be more time to ship back and forth
if buying from ncix check out mingtech or cty or TigerDirect store (TD store is cheaper than web prices i find) first
I agree with you that N C I X prices are not good most of the times except at times when they have some sales event.
Hopefully with NEWEGG we will not get the same. I expect NEWEGG prices to be on par with US rates if they want to establish and expand themselves in a short amount of time. I'd love to see a NEWEGG store/online in GTA ASAP.. :)
Tiger-Direct also have some good prices but nothing similar to what they have in USA and the service after sales is not good too..:!:
I'd expect much more from NEWEGG since its been a market leader in USA with their prices and availability of products which is a great issue here in Canada and hence the higher costs of the products.
computer01
Jul 12th, 2005, 11:22 AM
Bear in mind that many items from FS get shipped directly from Ingram Micro to the customer.
purolator grew because of FS
and 7 warehouses in the states for newegg
not like 3-4 warehouses for FS
peterbrowne
Jul 12th, 2005, 12:02 PM
newegg should offer xpresspost
gordholio
Jul 12th, 2005, 06:11 PM
The more computer stores that open, the better. More competition = lower prices. The customer wins.
gordholio
Jul 12th, 2005, 06:14 PM
I stay away from ordering computer parts online (from Tiger Direct, NCIX, etc.).
For me, I'd rather pay a bit more and buy it within travelling distance. If something isn't right with it, I just bring it back with no hassle and no shipping worries.
tantalus
Jul 12th, 2005, 07:50 PM
I'd love to see a situation where we could order something from newegg.com and have it treated the same way as if we order something from amazon.com. If a Canadian orders something from amazon.com, the part is transferred to (or shipped direct from) the Canadian warehouse (and the shipping remains pretty low). Since it's ordered from a US company and shipped out of Canada, we end up paying no taxes at all. Usually it's cheaper for me to ship something from amazon.com to my Canadian adress than it is to my US address since I avoid the US and Canadian tax.
Please suggest that this would be a good option for newegg to offer. :)
Evil Techie
Jul 12th, 2005, 08:49 PM
I'd love to see a situation where we could order something from newegg.com and have it treated the same way as if we order something from amazon.com. If a Canadian orders something from amazon.com, the part is transferred to (or shipped direct from) the Canadian warehouse (and the shipping remains pretty low). Since it's ordered from a US company and shipped out of Canada, we end up paying no taxes at all. Usually it's cheaper for me to ship something from amazon.com to my Canadian adress than it is to my US address since I avoid the US and Canadian tax.
Please suggest that this would be a good option for newegg to offer. :)
i will suggest that
thank you
WiZZLa
Jul 12th, 2005, 09:38 PM
NewEgg doesn't always have the best prices, but they are definitely one of the better online retailers when you add in their customer service. They also have a large variety of products so you don't have to buy from a bunch of different places.
Absolute
Jul 12th, 2005, 10:08 PM
NewEgg doesn't always have the best prices, but they are definitely one of the better online retailers when you add in their customer service. They also have a large variety of products so you don't have to buy from a bunch of different places.
Even if they don't have the best prices all the time, more competition for NCIX and TD is always good. Although TD's Radeon sale just redeemed them in my eyes. ;)
Lil Big Mec
Jul 13th, 2005, 02:58 AM
While I wholeheartedly voted yes, if the egg doesn't offer Purolator, I will not order from them. At least if I miss my Purolator shipment, I can go down town and pick it up. No UPS or Fedex office in a city the size of Moose Jaw is rediculous. I miss a UPS shipment and I have to drive almost 2 hours to Regina and back to pick it up because Couttes Courier are boneheads and won't drop off somewhere else when asked to. That's also one of the reasons I refuse to buy from TD, as well.
felix
Jul 13th, 2005, 07:03 AM
newegg should offer xpresspost
XpressPost is the best!! Along with Fedex! I'm sure they will have different shipping options though, but probably cheapest for the one carrier who gives them the best deal (usually UPS or Purolator >:( ).
Absolute
Jul 13th, 2005, 08:09 AM
XpressPost is the best!! Along with Fedex! I'm sure they will have different shipping options though, but probably cheapest for the one carrier who gives them the best deal (usually UPS or Purolator >:( ).
Cheapest, but not the most convenient. For the majority of Xpresspost packages I receive, all they do is leave a "package delivery" note on my door, claiming I wasn't there to pick up the package. Strangely enough, I was home but nobody buzzed up. That means that I have to head over to the local post office, a good 30 minute walk, not something I enjoy doing with a heavy package!
gman
Jul 13th, 2005, 10:14 AM
i've never found anything from ncix worth it after shipping and insurance.
i've really tried, from LCD mon's to dvd burners to ram, bundling unbundling..prices are always same or more expensive than if i went to cty or mingtech.
1. That's the problem. I need to physically shop around that way.
2. If the thing is small and expensive, saving in tax is greater than shipping.
If you need to buy a small price item at a time, no, you should not use ncix.
A $1000 purchase will save you $80. Shipping may be $30 depends on what it is.
3. I can use credit card without extra 3%.
4. I only buy sale item and of course, I check around but not exactly walk around and check the price physically.
vancity_boi
Jul 13th, 2005, 11:06 AM
I would love to have NEWEGG in canada so we could PM! :lol:
gilboman
Jul 13th, 2005, 11:08 AM
ncix's shipping is too much on a small item, bigger items you need to buy insurance too. and worst of all, all the stuff is cheaper in the GTA anyways. i dont know why anyone would buy from ncix if they are from GTA. unless they dont know of TD Store on Woodbine or places like cty and mingtech
ZeeTX
Jul 13th, 2005, 11:09 AM
I would love to have NEWEGG in canada so we could PM! :lol:
Staples are a BIG WUSS. They will never do PM to NEWEGG when its in Canada as they do/did same with TigerDirect.
Absolute
Jul 13th, 2005, 11:46 AM
Staples are a BIG WUSS. They will never do PM to NEWEGG when its in Canada as they do/did same with TigerDirect.
Yep, another store they'd mark as "Grey Area", just to avoid loosing money.
gman
Jul 13th, 2005, 12:01 PM
ncix's shipping is too much on a small item, bigger items you need to buy insurance too. and worst of all, all the stuff is cheaper in the GTA anyways. i dont know why anyone would buy from ncix if they are from GTA. unless they dont know of TD Store on Woodbine or places like cty and mingtech
TD store does not have anything I want. Their stuff is limited.
I believe I can't use credit card without surcharge in cty and mingtech. Not sure if they have everything I want either. Regardless, I properly need more than one trip to get everything I want if they do have everything I want. BTW, you can price match in NCIX. I use GTA price (if they have a web site) to price match in ncix. The advantage is I can use credit card and save in tax.
ZeeTX
Jul 13th, 2005, 12:25 PM
TD store does not have anything I want. Their stuff is limited.
I believe I can't use credit card without surcharge in cty and mingtech. Not sure if they have everything I want either. Regardless, I properly need more than one trip to get everything I want if they do have everything I want. BTW, you can price match in NCIX. I use GTA price (if they have a web site) to price match in ncix. The advantage is I can use credit card and save in tax.
N C I X always has premium prices on almost everything. So what's the use of saving on Tax when you are already buying the stuff at premium price. Ok they PM. But then you have to pay shipping.
I agree - Using CC is definitely more convinient. But saving on Tax does not make any sense unless you are buying something very $$ costly $$ .. And if only the Shipping charges are well low than the Tax.
Availability of prodcuts is definitely a big issue and hence the prices here in Canada are quite high compared to USA.
Hopefully this gets solved with NEWEGG coming to Canada soon.
poppa
Jul 13th, 2005, 01:14 PM
Availability and higher prices are due to distribution channels in Canada. I don't think there's anything nothing that can be done.
gman
Jul 13th, 2005, 01:32 PM
N C I X always has premium prices on almost everything. So what's the use of saving on Tax when you are already buying the stuff at premium price. Ok they PM. But then you have to pay shipping.
I agree - Using CC is definitely more convinient. But saving on Tax does not make any sense unless you are buying something very $$ costly $$ .. And if only the Shipping charges are well low than the Tax.
Availability of prodcuts is definitely a big issue and hence the prices here in Canada are quite high compared to USA.
Hopefully this gets solved with NEWEGG coming to Canada soon.
Of course, you should always evaluate the cost every time. Sometime, they have stuff on sale. I have no problem checking other price if there is better deal elsewhere. I only care about the total cost out of my pocket. Of course, I only buy from them if that justifies.
I never say you should buy from store X without thinking. Driving around to check out the price of X number of stores is not my cup of tea. That waste my time and money (in terms of gas).
Say, I look around and find a hard disk that cost $200 on sale. If I can't find a better price in 15km radius, I probably will buy it from ncix.
Buy it here: $200 x 1.15 = $230 + gas.
Buy it from ncix: ($200 + $10) x 1.07 = $224.7
Not much saving but I can use credit card which I probably will pay it roughly 2 months later (I buy stuff after my credit card statement date). I don't need to go out. It will be right in the office. No, I never buy insurance. I am probably lucky because I bought over $10,000 from them and had no problem. Of course, deliever to the office is important. Courier usually takes better care of the stuff. The credit card covers some insurance. Not shipping though but .... who said the thing was damaged during the shipping. :D
xeodragon
Jul 13th, 2005, 02:44 PM
Finally! I've been using Newegg to search for popular parts and checking out ratings and such. I think they're the best online computer store ver. I can't wait till they come to Canada because I'm thinking about building a computer soon. I hope they come soon.
thunder
Jul 13th, 2005, 02:51 PM
HI:Me Too I heard a lot of peoples talking about newegg
So it would be nice if they finally Come to Canada..
Cheers..
gilboman
Jul 13th, 2005, 03:49 PM
Of course, you should always evaluate the cost every time. Sometime, they have stuff on sale. I have no problem checking other price if there is better deal elsewhere. I only care about the total cost out of my pocket. Of course, I only buy from them if that justifies.
I never say you should buy from store X without thinking. Driving around to check out the price of X number of stores is not my cup of tea. That waste my time and money (in terms of gas).
Say, I look around and find a hard disk that cost $200 on sale. If I can't find a better price in 15km radius, I probably will buy it from ncix.
Buy it here: $200 x 1.15 = $230 + gas.
Buy it from ncix: ($200 + $10) x 1.07 = $224.7
Not much saving but I can use credit card which I probably will pay it roughly 2 months later (I buy stuff after my credit card statement date). I don't need to go out. It will be right in the office. No, I never buy insurance. I am probably lucky because I bought over $10,000 from them and had no problem. Of course, deliever to the office is important. Courier usually takes better care of the stuff. The credit card covers some insurance. Not shipping though but .... who said the thing was damaged during the shipping. :D
i'm not a gambling man..but if i buy something thats a few hundred..i will get insurance for sure. but you live in markham, all the decent computer stores are within 15km.
and i'm also impatient.. so waiting for like 5business days for good to come to my mail box is too long :lol:
but thing is..ncix even on sale is always i have found more expensive than cheapest price i can get here. so for 200 on sale item at ncix its 200+20ship/insurance+7% tax vs here at 180+15%
maybe i've been unlucky to find something really cheaper at ncix or i'm a good shopper and always find the better deal in GTA :lol:
i agree its better to use credit card..which is why i buy from tigerdirect store... the store prices are cheaper than online very often and they always have what i want that i saw online
Blazin_Sunfire
Jul 13th, 2005, 05:21 PM
*Cough*Newegg in Canada NyEsV E R! *cough*
hmmm, hidden message?? N(y)E(s)VER???
interesting
ZeeTX
Jul 13th, 2005, 06:21 PM
i'm not a gambling man..but if i buy something thats a few hundred..i will get insurance for sure. but you live in markham, all the decent computer stores are within 15km.
and i'm also impatient.. so waiting for like 5business days for good to come to my mail box is too long :lol:
but thing is..ncix even on sale is always i have found more expensive than cheapest price i can get here. so for 200 on sale item at ncix its 200+20ship/insurance+7% tax vs here at 180+15%
maybe i've been unlucky to find something really cheaper at ncix or i'm a good shopper and always find the better deal in GTA :lol:
i agree its better to use credit card..which is why i buy from tigerdirect store... the store prices are cheaper than online very often and they always have what i want that i saw online
Yes, That is exactly what I said to gman. N C I X have items at very good prices only when they have some big sales event and some very HOT prices for instore only. Rest of the time N C I X have prices that are always higher than local market prices. So what's the fun in saving on tax.
Takeout shipping cost if you (gman) think driving around costs gas($money$). But you have the advantage of getting the item the same day itself.
Even I never buy insurance but if any problem occurs with the product, I can always return/exchange it without the waiting time.
Spare-Flair
Jul 13th, 2005, 09:17 PM
Newegg has selection and prices that are hard to beat...I have for a long time wished we had access to Newegg because the only real choices we seem to have are NCIX on the West and Canada Computers on the East with smatterings of small places here and there.
Please tell the Newegg people to give us a RFD discount! :)
Spare-Flair
Jul 13th, 2005, 09:23 PM
hmmm, hidden message?? N(y)E(s)VER???
interesting
what does that mean?
Canucklehead
Jul 13th, 2005, 10:40 PM
What do I want in an online retailer?
Quality backed up with a hassle-free return policy (like FS/BB)
Easy to navigate website (like FS)
Free shipping (like FS)
If they have MIRs, stand behind them and make a corporate commitment to ensure that the rebate gets paid within a reasonable amount of time (STATE THE REASONABLE T IME)
Lots of information on the product including reviews
No B.S. on part#'s being different from one retailer to the next like Stooples always does. If you're afraid to get into the fray, stay out.
live chat support instead of "contact us and we'll get back to you within 24 hours"
MIR rebate download section
Welcome to Canada :D
gman
Jul 13th, 2005, 11:59 PM
i'm not a gambling man..but if i buy something thats a few hundred..i will get insurance for sure. but you live in markham, all the decent computer stores are within 15km.
and i'm also impatient.. so waiting for like 5business days for good to come to my mail box is too long :lol:
but thing is..ncix even on sale is always i have found more expensive than cheapest price i can get here. so for 200 on sale item at ncix its 200+20ship/insurance+7% tax vs here at 180+15%
maybe i've been unlucky to find something really cheaper at ncix or i'm a good shopper and always find the better deal in GTA :lol:
i agree its better to use credit card..which is why i buy from tigerdirect store... the store prices are cheaper than online very often and they always have what i want that i saw online
I thought I may be out of the part market for a while and thing changed. So, I did a quick check for hard disk price. My imagined parts that I would buy are Seagate ATA 160GB and 200GB.
Since you mentioned cty and mingtech, I did a quick check for them.
seagate 160GB 7200RPM
NCIX $103.65 out of pocket: ($103.65 + $10) x 1.07 = $121.60 (I know it is out of stock)
CTY: $110 out of pocket: $110 x 1.15 = $126.50
Mingtech: it does not have seagate pricing
seagate 200GB 7200RPM:
NCIX: $130.66 out of pocket: ($130.66 + $10) x 1.07 = $150.51
CTY: $135 out of pocket: $135 x 1.15 = $155.25
Mingtech: it does not have seagate pricing
BTW, I don't think the 2 parts I choose are special on-sale items in NCIX at the moment.
Since Mingtech does not have Seagate, just for the hack of it, I pick WD ATA 200GB for pricing.
NCIX: $118.98 (currently on sale) out of pocket: $138
CTY: $123 out of pocket: $141.45
Mingtech $123 out of pocket $141.45
NCIX vs CTY/Mingtech (for out of pocket comparison): 3-0
BTW again, the ncix shipping is $10 Express shipping and it is next business day shipping.
ZeeTX
Jul 14th, 2005, 12:18 AM
Maybe the parts you have chosen are not on specials but the prices for most of the current products are way way too high at N C I X compared to the loacal market.
For Eg: NEC 3540A
N C I X - ($77.35 x 1.07) + $10 shipping = $92.76
Local CanadaComputers - ($59.99 x 1.15) + $5 gas if you want.. :razz: = $68.98 + 5 = $73.98 Max. (Get the item same day + Return/exchange ease).
Now just this one item beats all the prices (in total) of the 3 items.. :lol:
The item that I selected is also on regular price and not on sale.
Local Shopping (CanadaComputers) Vs N C I X -- 1 - 0 (Knock out).. :lol:
gman
Jul 14th, 2005, 12:21 AM
Maybe the parts you have chosen are not on specials but the prices for most of the current products are way way too high at N C I X compared to the loacal market.
For Eg: NEC 3540A
N C I X - ($77.35 x 1.07) + $10 shipping = $92.76
Local CanadaComputers - ($59.99 x 1.15) + $5 gas if you want.. :razz: = $68.98 + 5 = $73.98 Max. (Get the item same day + Return/exchange ease).
Now just this one item beats all the prices (in total) of the 3 items.. :lol:
The item that I selected is also on regular price and not on sale.
Local Shopping (CanadaComputers) Vs N C I X -- 1 - 0 (Knock out).. :lol:
I am sure there may be some good price in my area. However, I probably could not find it. And, I won't touch Canada Computers with a 10 feet pole no matter how "good" the price is. I am pretty sure Canada Computers can beat a lot of store in "price".
I think a few people here do not agree with "Return/exchange ease" in Canada Computers.
webdoctors
Jul 14th, 2005, 02:59 AM
I thought I may be out of the part market for a while and thing changed. So, I did a quick check for hard disk price. My imagined parts that I would buy are Seagate ATA 160GB and 200GB.
Since you mentioned cty and mingtech, I did a quick check for them.
seagate 160GB 7200RPM
NCIX $103.65 out of pocket: ($103.65 + $10) x 1.07 = $121.60 (I know it is out of stock)
CTY: $110 out of pocket: $110 x 1.15 = $126.50
Mingtech: it does not have seagate pricing
seagate 200GB 7200RPM:
NCIX: $130.66 out of pocket: ($130.66 + $10) x 1.07 = $150.51
CTY: $135 out of pocket: $135 x 1.15 = $155.25
Mingtech: it does not have seagate pricing
BTW, I don't think the 2 parts I choose are special on-sale items in NCIX at the moment.
Since Mingtech does not have Seagate, just for the hack of it, I pick WD ATA 200GB for pricing.
NCIX: $118.98 (currently on sale) out of pocket: $138
CTY: $123 out of pocket: $141.45
Mingtech $123 out of pocket $141.45
NCIX vs CTY/Mingtech (for out of pocket comparison): 3-0
BTW again, the ncix shipping is $10 Express shipping and it is next business day shipping.
what, man U R so off....
ok I wanna build a new system so i was looking at some Venice 939 cpu's cause its pretty much da best cpu to use @ dis point.
3000+ CTY: $185+tax NCIX $201+tax
3200+ CTY: $239+tax NCIX $264.25+tax
3500+ CTY: $343+tax NCIX $375.63+tax
I need a mobo:
ASUS A8V Deluxe (AMD Socket 939,AGP 8X,SATA/Audio/LAN/1394)
CTY: $141 NCIX $158.70
ASUS A8N-SLI Motherboard (AMD Socket 939,Dual PCI-E,SATA/Audio/LAN/1394)
CTY: $195 NCIX: $225.72
WD1600JS WESTERN DIGITAL CAVIAR SE 160GB SATA2 7200RPM 8MB OEM HARD DRIVE $132.25
WD2000JB WESTERN DIGITAL CAVIAR SE 200GB HARD DRIVE 7200RPM ATA100 8MB CACHE OEM *3YR MFR. WARRANTY* Yes $139.15
CTY they are $99 and $123 respectively.
CTY its 15% due to PST, NCIX just 8% tax so in SOME cases it'll make it comparable otherwise no way....plus what if U get sent an EMPTY BOX LOL, ok as odd as it may snd, imagine the hassle u would be required to remedy the situation. Unless online is significantly cheaper, its hard to beat the B&M experience where u can even see da CPU serial # before U buy. I like how NCIX stocks wayyy more stuff so has a better selection tho.
gilboman
Jul 14th, 2005, 04:06 AM
I am sure there may be some good price in my area. However, I probably could not find it. And, I won't touch Canada Computers with a 10 feet pole no matter how "good" the price is. I am pretty sure Canada Computers can beat a lot of store in "price".
I think a few people here do not agree with "Return/exchange ease" in Canada Computers.
return/exchange at Canadacomputers is easier than having to wait to ship stuff back to Ncix and waiting for exchanged item to be shipped back.
i've never had any problems exchanging stuff at canada computers.. i had them replace a AMD cpu 3days after i bought it, exchanged sony dvd burner for pioneer one same day (no charge other than price difference).
gilboman
Jul 14th, 2005, 04:15 AM
I thought I may be out of the part market for a while and thing changed. So, I did a quick check for hard disk price. My imagined parts that I would buy are Seagate ATA 160GB and 200GB.
Since you mentioned cty and mingtech, I did a quick check for them.
seagate 160GB 7200RPM
NCIX $103.65 out of pocket: ($103.65 + $10) x 1.07 = $121.60 (I know it is out of stock)
CTY: $110 out of pocket: $110 x 1.15 = $126.50
Mingtech: it does not have seagate pricing
seagate 200GB 7200RPM:
NCIX: $130.66 out of pocket: ($130.66 + $10) x 1.07 = $150.51
CTY: $135 out of pocket: $135 x 1.15 = $155.25
Mingtech: it does not have seagate pricing
BTW, I don't think the 2 parts I choose are special on-sale items in NCIX at the moment.
Since Mingtech does not have Seagate, just for the hack of it, I pick WD ATA 200GB for pricing.
NCIX: $118.98 (currently on sale) out of pocket: $138
CTY: $123 out of pocket: $141.45
Mingtech $123 out of pocket $141.45
NCIX vs CTY/Mingtech (for out of pocket comparison): 3-0
BTW again, the ncix shipping is $10 Express shipping and it is next business day shipping.
i dont see where there is $10 express shipping??
straight from ncix website for ONE 160gb drive
Canada Post $12.98 Usually takes 2-8 business days to ship. *
Purolator Ground $13.98 Usually takes 1-6 business days to ship. *
UPS Ground $14.98 Usually takes 1-6 business days to ship. *
FedEx Ground $16.00 Usually takes 1-7 business days to ship. *
Xpresspost $18.00 Usually takes 1-4 business days to ship. *
Purolator Air $19.00 Usually takes 1-2 business days to ship. *
UPS Air $19.00 Usually takes 1-2 business days to ship. *
FedEx Air $20.00 Usually takes 1-2 business days to ship. *
you also need to add insurance (in case it gets lost/damage) and no i wont take the chance of not buying it, this would be totally unnesecessarily if buying from local store. insruance for the drive is $1.55
total for a 160gb drive is
Shipping $13.98
Insurance: $1.55
Subtotal: $119.18
GST(7%): $8.34
YOUR TOTAL: $127.52
total from cty 126.50
also note even if express shipping is used, takes 2business days to get it and ncix doesnt ensure same day shipping takes 1-3 business days to ship it.. so minimum expect 4 business days to get it.
difference
CTY: get same day, if anything wrong bring back same day get exchange
NCIX, get it 4 BUSINESS days later, if anything wrong, mail back (maybe a charge?) takes 3days to get there, they process and ship replacement another 4business days =7day quickest for exchange/defective
so with ncix i pay more, get it later and if anything wrong with it i wait even longer.
NOTHING from NCIX is ever worth it even on sale if you include shipping/insurance let alone the wait for it and hassle of any problems with the part.
gman
Jul 14th, 2005, 09:40 AM
i dont see where there is $10 express shipping??
straight from ncix website for ONE 160gb drive
Canada Post $12.98 Usually takes 2-8 business days to ship. *
Purolator Ground $13.98 Usually takes 1-6 business days to ship. *
UPS Ground $14.98 Usually takes 1-6 business days to ship. *
FedEx Ground $16.00 Usually takes 1-7 business days to ship. *
Xpresspost $18.00 Usually takes 1-4 business days to ship. *
Purolator Air $19.00 Usually takes 1-2 business days to ship. *
UPS Air $19.00 Usually takes 1-2 business days to ship. *
FedEx Air $20.00 Usually takes 1-2 business days to ship. *
you also need to add insurance (in case it gets lost/damage) and no i wont take the chance of not buying it, this would be totally unnesecessarily if buying from local store. insruance for the drive is $1.55
total for a 160gb drive is
Shipping $13.98
Insurance: $1.55
Subtotal: $119.18
GST(7%): $8.34
YOUR TOTAL: $127.52
total from cty 126.50
also note even if express shipping is used, takes 2business days to get it and ncix doesnt ensure same day shipping takes 1-3 business days to ship it.. so minimum expect 4 business days to get it.
difference
CTY: get same day, if anything wrong bring back same day get exchange
NCIX, get it 4 BUSINESS days later, if anything wrong, mail back (maybe a charge?) takes 3days to get there, they process and ship replacement another 4business days =7day quickest for exchange/defective
so with ncix i pay more, get it later and if anything wrong with it i wait even longer.
NOTHING from NCIX is ever worth it even on sale if you include shipping/insurance let alone the wait for it and hassle of any problems with the part.
You use 160GB but it is out of stock. Hence, there is no express shipping. No stock and they can't ship express. If CTY has no stock, you can't get from them the same day either.
Check out the 200GB.
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=14456&vpn=ST3200826A&manufacture=Seagate
http://www.ncix.com/article.php?mode=expresshipping
WHY CHOOSE EXPRESS SHIPPING?
Fastest delivery! Express Shipping delivers every weekday and is a next business day service to most regions in Canada.*
Not sure why you want to waste money on insurance. By default, it covers $100 for lost and damage good. The only thing I may worry about is lost. For damage, if I have to, my credit card can cover that (if I don't tell them it was caused by shipping).
ZeeTX
Jul 14th, 2005, 09:49 AM
I am sure there may be some good price in my area. However, I probably could not find it. And, I won't touch Canada Computers with a 10 feet pole no matter how "good" the price is. I am pretty sure Canada Computers can beat a lot of store in "price".
I think a few people here do not agree with "Return/exchange ease" in Canada Computers.
I think you must have a horrible experience shopping with CanadaComputers. Would you mind/like to share..:?:
I just bought once from CC (Graphics card) and thankfully never had a problem with it. I was thinking of getting the BenQ1620 or the latest NEC 3540 from them. But since BenQ1620 OEM has a very high rate of RMA / drive failure, I kept myself away from the drive itself.
Currently I think N C I X is having onsale BenQ1620 @ $45.99 ($7/$8 cheaper than local market cost). But I am thinking of going with CCs NEC 3540 since it is a new drive with faster speeds and more support of the product.
gman
Jul 14th, 2005, 09:54 AM
I think you must have a horrible experience shopping with CanadaComputers. Would you mind/like to share..:?:
I just bought once from CC (Graphics card) and thankfully never had a problem with it. I was thinking of getting the BenQ1620 or the latest NEC 3540 from them. But since BenQ1620 OEM has a very high rate of RMA / drive failure, I kept myself away from the drive itself.
Currently I think N C I X is having onsale BenQ1620 @ $45.99 ($7/$8 cheaper than local market cost). But I am thinking of going with CCs NEC 3540 since it is a new drive with faster speeds and more support of the product.
Do a search in the forum. There are talked enough time.
Let me put it this way. If I can't even step into the store, I don't know how I can buy something from them. Even if I can step into the store, I can't find anybody to talk to. If buying is so difficult, think about repair or RMA.
Anyway, I did a quick search.
http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=151055&highlight=canada+computers+problem
http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=157352&highlight=canada+computers+problem
http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=114099&highlight=canada+computers+problem
ZeeTX
Jul 14th, 2005, 10:05 AM
Do a search in the forum. There are talked enough time.
Let me put it this way. If I can't even step into the store, I don't know how I can buy something from them. Even if I can step into the store, I can't find anybody to talk to. If buying is so difficult, think about repair or RMA.
Anyway, I did a quick search.
http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=151055&highlight=canada+computers+problem
http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=157352&highlight=canada+computers+problem
The threads that you pointed out are - Other people complaining about the service at CanadaComputers. I haven't seen one reply/problem by you in the threads that you pointed out.
If you are just afraid from other people's experience then I say you are being biased about the store shopping experience.
I agree that the CC store is fully crowded always and it is very difficult to talk to them. But that is how they operate. It might not be a good way of selling I don't know why people are always filled in the store as though some circus is running inside.. :lol:
gman
Jul 14th, 2005, 10:19 AM
The threads that you pointed out are - Other people complaining about the service at CanadaComputers. I haven't seen one reply/problem by you in the threads that you pointed out.
If you are just afraid from other people's experience then I say you are being biased about the store shopping experience.
I agree that the CC store is fully crowded always and it is very difficult to talk to them. But that is how they operate. It might not be a good way of selling I don't know why people are always filled in the store as though some circus is running inside.. :lol:
Yes, I am biased because I heard enough about the store.
I prefer to be welcomed instead of being pissed after asked a simple question. I prefer when I call them somebody will answer the phone or not put me on hold and then either forgot about me or hang up.
Go to Pacific Mall, fight for parking and then receive that kind of service is not my cup of tea. If I buy in local, I for sure won't buy from Canada computers even if I know that the other store charges a bit more.
So far, the customer service I received from ncix are great (but I also heard bad thing of them long time go). It did not matter if it is through web, email or phone. I heard that the store experience in BC was bad but I was never there.
gilboman
Jul 14th, 2005, 10:52 AM
You use 160GB but it is out of stock. Hence, there is no express shipping. No stock and they can't ship express. If CTY has no stock, you can't get from them the same day either.
Check out the 200GB.
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=14456&vpn=ST3200826A&manufacture=Seagate
http://www.ncix.com/article.php?mode=expresshipping
Not sure why you want to waste money on insurance. By default, it covers $100 for lost and damage good. The only thing I may worry about is lost. For damage, if I have to, my credit card can cover that (if I don't tell them it was caused by shipping).
you can just call ahead to cty to see if they have it in stock but they've never ran out of stock of simple stuff like hard drive
ya...by default covers 100..but wat about the rest???? so you take the risk of it being loss and since you didnt buy insurance ncix says tough luck or if its damaged you have to go through your credit card insurance to get it (takes 6 weeks to get your money for whole process, i've done it). all this compared to same day at cty.
so you can't compare the no insurance price just because you dont care about the risk... a risk that would not exist if you bought from cty.
so again you have to wait for ncix for few days even if they have it in stock and if something wrong you have to wait couple weeks to ship back and get it back
ncix cost
130.66+
Shipping $10.00
Insurance: $1.96
Subtotal: $152.40
GST(7%): $10.67
YOUR TOTAL: $152.60
cty
135*1.15 = 155.25 at cty :lol: :lol: :lol:
even if you take risk that would not exist if bought from b&m store and decline insurance.. cty is still cheaper
gman
Jul 14th, 2005, 10:55 AM
you can just call ahead to cty to see if they have it in stock but they've never ran out of stock of simple stuff like hard drive
ya...by default covers 100..but wat about the rest???? so you take the risk of it being loss and since you didnt buy insurance ncix says tough luck or if its damaged you have to go through your credit card insurance to get it (takes 6 weeks to get your money for whole process, i've done it). all this compared to same day at cty.
so you can't compare the no insurance price just because you dont care about the risk... a risk that would not exist if you bought from cty.
Claiming 'regular' insurance will take as long. Buying insurance from ncix will not make the experience less painful.
ZeeTX
Jul 14th, 2005, 10:59 AM
Waiting and going through the hassles for all this shipping and everything else adds up to the cost the item purchased. That's not my cup of tea or coffee.
I'd rather get something done quickly (Good/bad) than waiting and hoping something to happen only good.
gilboman
Jul 14th, 2005, 11:04 AM
also i said many stores in GTA have good prices and cty is only one of them, so a quick look on P R I C E N E T W O R K shows that pcvillage (Across from cty :lol: or in first markham place) has the seagate 200gb for 123 http://pcvillagecanada.com/Hardware.asp?cat=HDD
thus price if bought from pcvillage in GTA
123*1.15= 141.45
NCIX price $152.60
;) as you can see, your beloved ncix can never compete in GTA based on price even if you skip insurance which i won't do or conveinence or time it takes to get my hardware purchases.
gilboman
Jul 14th, 2005, 11:06 AM
Claiming 'regular' insurance will take as long. Buying insurance from ncix will not make the experience less painful.
another reason to skip buying online from them when its cheaper to buy in GTA anyways. saves so much hassle
gman
Jul 14th, 2005, 11:09 AM
also i said many stores in GTA have good prices and cty is only one of them, so a quick look on P R I C E N E T W O R K shows that pcvillage (Across from cty :lol: or in first markham place) has the seagate 200gb for 123 http://pcvillagecanada.com/Hardware.asp?cat=HDD
thus price if bought from pcvillage in GTA
123*1.15= 141.45
NCIX price $152.60
;) as you can see, your beloved ncix can never compete in GTA based on price even if you skip insurance which i won't do or conveinence or time it takes to get my hardware purchases.
Sigh! pcvillage is yet another store I won't touch. I again will spend extra few bucks to buy it from somewhere else (not necessary from NCIX).
gilboman
Jul 14th, 2005, 11:16 AM
Sigh! pcvillage is yet another store I won't touch. I again will spend extra few bucks to buy it from somewhere else (not necessary from NCIX).
how about sunnycomputers in pacific mall?
seagate for $125*1.15= 143.75?
why are you avoiding so many stores? you are just buying hardware, you dont need their advice or anything, you just go in and grab what you need. unless you intend to return stuff, i've tried pcvillage before too and i bought cpu/heatsink from them, nothing wrong.
and if anything goes wrong you RMA it to manfacture or if it's DOA bring it to store for replacement no problems
gman
Jul 14th, 2005, 11:54 AM
how about sunnycomputers in pacific mall?
seagate for $125*1.15= 143.75?
why are you avoiding so many stores? you are just buying hardware, you dont need their advice or anything, you just go in and grab what you need. unless you intend to return stuff, i've tried pcvillage before too and i bought cpu/heatsink from them, nothing wrong.
and if anything goes wrong you RMA it to manfacture or if it's DOA bring it to store for replacement no problems
People reported (probably rumour) they may sell used stuff as new. I am okay with sunny though.
gh05t
Jul 14th, 2005, 12:40 PM
Won't buy from Newegg even if they are cheaper.
I am not too pleased about how they have treated Canadians in the past with their rigid non shipping to Canada policy like all the other pompous buisnesses in the US.
It basically says we are in the US(the capital of the universe) and we don't much care for your business from across the border.
If Newegg which I am sure is Taiwanese based thinks it's so American then I think they should continue with their psychophantic behaviour and stay there and depend on American customers only, like it's currently doing, but getting licks from Dell in the process like all the other computer shops there as US jobs are outsourced and the US citizens don't have disposable income to spend on computer stuff like Canadians do.
Evil Techie
Jul 14th, 2005, 01:39 PM
Won't buy from Newegg even if they are cheaper.
I am not too pleased about how they have treated Canadians in the past with their rigid non shipping to Canada policy like all the other pompous buisnesses in the US.
It basically says we are in the US(the capital of the universe) and we don't much care for your business from across the border.
If Newegg which I am sure is Taiwanese based thinks it's so American then I think they should continue with their psychophantic behaviour and stay there and depend on American customers only, like it's currently doing, but getting licks from Dell in the process like all the other computer shops there as US jobs are outsourced and the US citizens don't have disposable income to spend on computer stuff like Canadians do.
ive found your intel lacking truth and logic
first of all, newegg is an american based company, not taiwanese based at all
they only started their office in taiwan not long ago to deal with sourcing better
headquarter is still in City of Industry, L.A. California
secondly, newegg only wants to do business in canada when they can provide full customer service here
before, they didnt have the capital to be starting warehouses and canadian customer service here locally
if they simply just do crossborder shipping, customers will not be satisfied with the speed and quality of the service
newegg is all about shopping experience so they rather lose the opportunity to rapidly expand
they would rather go slow and steady to make sure that there are no angry customers
even now, newegg is still improving their service quality in the states because the company is only 4 years old
you have to understand, being in the computer retailing industry, revenue may be high but profit sure isnt
so getting the funds to expand really takes a while to build up
but i have to say that being able to expand globally in 4 years is very good for a computer retailing company
ive never heard of anyone saying that they are "psychophantic"
nor are there any evidences pointing towards that
if they didnt want to come to canada, then they wouldnt be coming
but they do want to serve canada since many people here have wanted them to
i for one have begged for quite long
1V4N
Jul 15th, 2005, 12:20 AM
ive found your intel lacking truth and logic
first of all, newegg is an american based company, not taiwanese based at all
they only started their office in taiwan not long ago to deal with sourcing better
headquarter is still in City of Industry, L.A. California
secondly, newegg only wants to do business in canada when they can provide full customer service here
before, they didnt have the capital to be starting warehouses and canadian customer service here locally
if they simply just do crossborder shipping, customers will not be satisfied with the speed and quality of the service
newegg is all about shopping experience so they rather lose the opportunity to rapidly expand
they would rather go slow and steady to make sure that there are no angry customers
even now, newegg is still improving their service quality in the states because the company is only 4 years old
you have to understand, being in the computer retailing industry, revenue may be high but profit sure isnt
so getting the funds to expand really takes a while to build up
but i have to say that being able to expand globally in 4 years is very good for a computer retailing company
ive never heard of anyone saying that they are "psychophantic"
nor are there any evidences pointing towards that
if they didnt want to come to canada, then they wouldnt be coming
but they do want to serve canada since many people here have wanted them to
i for one have begged for quite long
Out of curiousity, what exactly is in it for you? Do you have either a direct or indirect interest in their plans to expand to Canada?
Seems you have been promoting and defending Newegg.ca through this poll.
As a consumer I wouldn't mind Newegg doing business in Canada....but as a an individual who works in PC distribution....I have serious concerns.
Others have pointed out that if the parts will be brought into Canada direct from the US, and not through local disty channels, then the parts will be considered "grey market" as is the case with Tiger Direct's inventory.
There are issues in the retail markets as it stands now, for example in the local GTA, Canada Computers has been a pain in the neck with alot of the other competiting resellers and a bigger pain for the distribution channels.
CC brings in "grey market" all the time, and now are bringing in from Asian sources such as China now.
It disturbs the market for those who compete fairly from buying through authorised channels, since the smaller competitors can not afford to sell at a loss to compete against CC for same SKU'd products, unless they are a bigger company with deeper pockets.
Personally I won't like it if the parts are brought up from the US, instead of through local Canadian disty channels like the rest, since that is the only way they can have lower prices than other Canadian resellers.
Maybe it's time to stop hyping Newegg.ca and stop being a fan boy, unless you can come clean to let everyone know what your connection with Newegg.ca is....
gordholio
Jul 15th, 2005, 12:58 AM
Out of curiousity, what exactly is in it for you? Do you have either a direct or indirect interest in their plans to expand to Canada?
Seems you have been promoting and defending Newegg.ca through this poll.
As a consumer I wouldn't mind Newegg doing business in Canada....but as a an individual who works in PC distribution....I have serious concerns.
Others have pointed out that if the parts will be brought into Canada direct from the US, and not through local disty channels, then the parts will be considered "grey market" as is the case with Tiger Direct's inventory.
There are issues in the retail markets as it stands now, for example in the local GTA, Canada Computers has been a pain in the neck with alot of the other competiting resellers and a bigger pain for the distribution channels.
CC brings in "grey market" all the time, and now are bringing in from Asian sources such as China now.
It disturbs the market for those who compete fairly from buying through authorised channels, since the smaller competitors can not afford to sell at a loss to compete against CC for same SKU'd products, unless they are a bigger company with deeper pockets.
Personally I won't like it if the parts are brought up from the US, instead of through local Canadian disty channels like the rest, since that is the only way they can have lower prices than other Canadian resellers.
Maybe it's time to stop hyping Newegg.ca and stop being a fan boy, unless you can come clean to let everyone know what your connection with Newegg.ca is....
I don't really care whether the parts come from Canada, The US or Timbuktu - I just want the cheapest price. If Canadian distributors can't compete with American distributors, too bad for them.
BlueMax
Jul 15th, 2005, 01:00 AM
I don't really care whether the parts come from Canada, The US or Timbuktu - I just want the cheapest price. If Canadian distributors can't compete with American distributors, too bad for them.
One word: WARRANTY!
I've seen a number of products that are only supported in the country it originated. USA part, USA service.
Though most are North America and OK. ;)
gilboman
Jul 15th, 2005, 01:12 AM
I don't really care whether the parts come from Canada, The US or Timbuktu - I just want the cheapest price. If Canadian distributors can't compete with American distributors, too bad for them.
a lot of pc parts from US intended for US, you wont get warranty or support in canada ;)
webdoctors
Jul 15th, 2005, 01:32 AM
what products are sold in Canada that have no warranty? Even CanadaComputers products have a warranty, unless OEM in which case even da store gives a 1 yr warranty.
REtail cpu's, mobos, harddrives, and RAM all come wid company warranties as well as some having store warranties as well.
I dont understand this grey market stuff, should we not buy stuff made in China/USA and only get stuff made in Canada? If the retailer is honest and says sold AS IS or without warranty (stuff like headphones, usb cables etc. have dis as they are from noname Chinese factories) I dont mind buying them as they usually so cheap can just get another one when they break.
gilboman
Jul 15th, 2005, 09:01 AM
what products are sold in Canada that have no warranty? Even CanadaComputers products have a warranty, unless OEM in which case even da store gives a 1 yr warranty.
REtail cpu's, mobos, harddrives, and RAM all come wid company warranties as well as some having store warranties as well.
I dont understand this grey market stuff, should we not buy stuff made in China/USA and only get stuff made in Canada? If the retailer is honest and says sold AS IS or without warranty (stuff like headphones, usb cables etc. have dis as they are from noname Chinese factories) I dont mind buying them as they usually so cheap can just get another one when they break.
well a lot of canadacomputer's main core of PC hardware is bought through canadian distribution channels, but some of th emore obscure brands and etc... dont even have canadian contacts since they never intended their products to be sold here.
greymarket does not refer to where the stuff is made but where it was intended to be sold. e.g. my panasonic X800 bought here is grey market goods since it was never intended to be sold in North America (says so right on box too :lol: ), so if something goes wrong or i need help, panasonic would tell me tough luck on support or warranty even if i have "reciept"
BlueMax
Jul 15th, 2005, 10:32 AM
HP printers make a good example for warranty issues. They make a USA model and a Canadian model. They're 99% the same, but with some differences to manual and warranty support. The'll support a 930A but not the 930 (just for example.)
HoTiCE_
Jul 15th, 2005, 11:13 AM
ok... ill leak out the details for the warehouse plans
one in vancouver
one in montreal
none in ontario planned right now
NewEgg isnt "moving" to Canada
they are expanding into canada
crap, this means PST for me. Why can't they open in Saskatchewan or Labrador or PEI for the matter. Would save lots of PST for a large(r) pool of customers
gordholio
Jul 15th, 2005, 11:42 AM
One word: WARRANTY!
I've seen a number of products that are only supported in the country it originated. USA part, USA service.
Though most are North America and OK. ;)
Ok then, I didn't know that. That would be a big reason to not buy from them.
gilboman
Jul 15th, 2005, 11:48 AM
HP printers make a good example for warranty issues. They make a USA model and a Canadian model. They're 99% the same, but with some differences to manual and warranty support. The'll support a 930A but not the 930 (just for example.)
you mean liek the US designation at end of model instead of CA?
eg presario X1010CA will be supported in canada whereas X1010US wouldnt?
The Digital Dolphin
Jul 15th, 2005, 12:36 PM
I don't really care whether the parts come from Canada, The US or Timbuktu - I just want the cheapest price. If Canadian distributors can't compete with American distributors, too bad for them.
Ahh, the true spirit of Redflagdeals :cheesygri
The very same spririt that brought us, Maxell media "made in Taiwan", and Fuji media "Made in Taiwan".
Bskll
Jul 15th, 2005, 01:24 PM
Out of curiousity, what exactly is in it for you? Do you have either a direct or indirect interest in their plans to expand to Canada?
Seems you have been promoting and defending Newegg.ca through this poll.
if you searched some of techie's posts, you would know what his connection is to newegg.
And newegg US is the best. considering that they are relatively new, their business have been going quite well, although they do censor some reviews on their sites.
all this grey market stuff, doesn't matter to me as a consumer, cause stuff from proper distribution channel costs much more than exchange rate + profit. grey market = consumer benefit from cheap price.
and uh techie, newegg is founded by twainese ppl in the states. a little reminder for you.
gilboman
Jul 15th, 2005, 01:29 PM
all this grey market stuff, doesn't matter to me as a consumer, cause stuff from proper distribution channel costs much more than exchange rate + profit. grey market = consumer benefit from cheap price.
just dont come here and complain/whine about it when you need support or warranty service though.
grey market = cheaper goods with no support. buy at own risk
it depends how much cheaper it is.
poppa
Jul 15th, 2005, 01:35 PM
NewEgg is going public right? I don't know, but there is concern that the company could go downhill (customer service wise).
Just don't get your hopes up people (judging from the "OMG's" in this thread :lol: ) Who knows, we might get some half assed version and get shafted like Dell.
The Digital Dolphin
Jul 15th, 2005, 01:49 PM
[QUOTE=Bskl
and uh techie, newegg is founded by twainese ppl in the states. a little reminder for you.[/QUOTE]
Basketball was created by a Canadian in the USA. So what?
Spent
Jul 15th, 2005, 02:03 PM
IPO initial details (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050701/wr_nm/tech_china_newegg_dc)
xeodragon
Jul 15th, 2005, 04:18 PM
i really hope Newegg does come to Canada. and soon too
Evil Techie
Jul 15th, 2005, 04:38 PM
so what if newegg is founded by a taiwanese person
the co-founders are american
so what
they are just a business working for a living
it is the consumer that benefits from this competition which brings lower prices and better services
as for now, we dont know if the items will be shipped from the states or what
newegg usually has its own sourcing since it is big enough of a company and it will make sure the warranties will satisfy all the customers
Bskll
Jul 15th, 2005, 06:32 PM
i'm just correcting a fact made by techie, that's all.
Evil Techie
Jul 15th, 2005, 07:51 PM
i understand but maybe i should just make it clear now before people misunderstand
newegg is founded mainly by one person who is an international business man trying to fulfill his entrepreneurial dreams (he is the chairman of newegg)
also the vice-chairman who helped him started the business is a canadian
gman
Jul 15th, 2005, 08:36 PM
CTY its 15% due to PST, NCIX just 8% tax so in SOME cases it'll make it comparable otherwise no way....plus what if U get sent an EMPTY BOX LOL, ok as odd as it may snd, imagine the hassle u would be required to remedy the situation. Unless online is significantly cheaper, its hard to beat the B&M experience where u can even see da CPU serial # before U buy. I like how NCIX stocks wayyy more stuff so has a better selection tho.
7% not 8%.
Of course, you only do that if it is much better. And, I can use credit card. I already purchase over $10000 stuff from them. So far so good. No, they are not my only source and no, they did not send me an empty box. If you don't trust a store, you should not buy from them. That is if you think Futureshop would send you an empty box, you should not buy from them.
Whatever price CTY gives you, assuming it is on their web site, NCIX can price match that. Usually, all my items are either price match or it is better. In one order, I price match a store from BC, one from Calgary and one from Toronto. Remember I can have the GTA price and 8% less tax. There was a $2500 purchase (with all sort of price match) that costed me ~$30 delivery charge. If you buy when they give free delivery, that's even better.
BTW, my credit card gives me extra 1.5% cash rebate too.
And, last time, they could not send me a video card when they were supposed to be in stock. They gave me 2 options: 1. wait for it. 2. gives me a better card which retailed $50 more for the same price. Guess which option I picked.
1V4N
Jul 15th, 2005, 09:54 PM
The biggest concern for grey market items is the warranty.
Alot of you may think that its not a worry or concern, however once you have the unfortunate luck of getting something thats defective, you will find out what a hassle it is to get proper service if an items warranty is only applicable in the US (since it was designated for sale in the US only).
That is the reason Tiger Direct only offers mostly 30 Days warranty.
But there are items which carry international warranty, but then again you won't really know until you buy the item and refer to the warranty cards.
If you have a defective product purchased through Canada Computers, and its a grey market item, you will normally wait much longer for your defective item to be processed (since they gather up a large quantity before they consider shipping them back to the US - its expensive and cost them money to ship back), to where CC bought it from to have it warranted. I know because I once worked for them....don't ask.
Evil Techie
Jul 15th, 2005, 09:58 PM
right now, no one knows how newegg will source their products for newegg canada
so making speculations about newegg and grey marketing does not get anyone anywhere
NG
Jul 15th, 2005, 10:04 PM
right now, no one knows how newegg will source their products for newegg canada
so making speculations about newegg and grey marketing does not get anyone anywhere
Hey my 2 cents is that it doesn't matter one way or the other. It appears all those who have been able to order from newegg USA has had remarkable customer service.
If it's Canadian sourced products - fine.
If not I'm sure they'll do what compgeeks does and provide the warrenty themselves (I've seen up to a year compgeek warrenties).
Either case can't wait for them to arrive and see how it changes the Canadian e-tailer market. I'll be *very* glad to have another viable option besies BB/FS, TD and Ncix.
EveryLurker
Jul 16th, 2005, 03:42 AM
just a simple question...
would i have to pay the pst when ordering any item from the future canadian newegg site? i am in toronto btw..
ReBeL
Jul 16th, 2005, 04:33 AM
NewEgg has my vote.........
Although the best customer service I've ever received has come
from and continues to to be provided by Monarch Computer in
Atlanta, GA.
BTW: They do not price match
There is some definite price gouging going on with Ram and LCD pricing in Canada (Most likely
at the distribution level). Here's hoping that NewEgg.ca will emulate the U.S division's pricing,
which will rattle some cages and hopefully bring us some better deals.
Cheers !!!
R :D
ReBeL
Jul 16th, 2005, 04:39 AM
just a simple question...
would i have to pay the pst when ordering any item from the future canadian newegg site? i am in toronto btw..
Ugh.......
If you browsed through the entire thread you would have noticed that
planned distribution facilities will most likely be located in Montreal and
somewhere in BC.
So....... The answer is NO :cheesygri >>> Which is good for both of us
Evil Techie
Jul 16th, 2005, 03:48 PM
well that depends
probably not
maybe newegg should have a warehouse in alberta instead of BC too
lol
RSD
Jul 16th, 2005, 11:42 PM
ok im just really lazy and dont feel like looking over 20 pages cuz my new pc is a pain in the ass.
has a date been for newegg coming to canada or are they still thinking abomut this? i would love it if blankmedia.ca got some competition. -_- overpricing bastards.
and i've never really heard anything bad about newegg. people are always recomending it
EveryLurker
Jul 17th, 2005, 02:02 AM
NewEgg has my vote.........
BTW: They do not price match
There is some definite price gouging going on with Ram and LCD pricing in Canada (Most likely
at the distribution level). Here's hoping that NewEgg.ca will emulate the U.S division's pricing,
which will rattle some cages and hopefully bring us some better deals.
R :D
im glad that NCIX / st00ples do pricematch.. if newegg emulates US style pricing.. im sure newegg will beat out those 2 many times.. which could lead to some nice pricematching with the others
Thundercloud
Jul 17th, 2005, 02:24 AM
I'd welcome more competition and lower prices!
I'm sick of FS + BB's prices and selections. =_=
Can't wait til Newegg opens!
felix
Jul 17th, 2005, 03:01 AM
Yup, we need some real computer parts and more jobs here. Bring it on!! ;)
gilboman
Jul 17th, 2005, 03:42 AM
7% not 8%.
Of course, you only do that if it is much better. And, I can use credit card. I already purchase over $10000 stuff from them. So far so good. No, they are not my only source and no, they did not send me an empty box. If you don't trust a store, you should not buy from them. That is if you think Futureshop would send you an empty box, you should not buy from them.
Whatever price CTY gives you, assuming it is on their web site, NCIX can price match that. Usually, all my items are either price match or it is better. In one order, I price match a store from BC, one from Calgary and one from Toronto. Remember I can have the GTA price and 8% less tax. There was a $2500 purchase (with all sort of price match) that costed me ~$30 delivery charge. If you buy when they give free delivery, that's even better.
BTW, my credit card gives me extra 1.5% cash rebate too.
And, last time, they could not send me a video card when they were supposed to be in stock. They gave me 2 options: 1. wait for it. 2. gives me a better card which retailed $50 more for the same price. Guess which option I picked.
mingtech don't post online prices, and i'm not a gambling man, atleast not when buying stuff..so for 2500 worth of goods, i will never buy from ncix. first i will buy insurance and thats extra couple percent. and with goods of such value, i want it same day i buy and ability to exchange sameday if i change my mind or i'm not satisfied with the performance. with ncix its send it back wait, wait for them to send back out.
and should i need to return something, there's hassle of getting RMA and shipping back. whereas in GTA i just bring it back.
NCIX i cant look at cpu or whatever component for the version i want (stepping or some particual patch identifiable through serial number) like i can check in a store that i can goto.
stuff like LCD's should never ever be bought from place like ncix as well.
gman
Jul 17th, 2005, 09:12 PM
mingtech don't post online prices, and i'm not a gambling man, atleast not when buying stuff..so for 2500 worth of goods, i will never buy from ncix. first i will buy insurance and thats extra couple percent. and with goods of such value, i want it same day i buy and ability to exchange sameday if i change my mind or i'm not satisfied with the performance. with ncix its send it back wait, wait for them to send back out.
and should i need to return something, there's hassle of getting RMA and shipping back. whereas in GTA i just bring it back.
NCIX i cant look at cpu or whatever component for the version i want (stepping or some particual patch identifiable through serial number) like i can check in a store that i can goto.
stuff like LCD's should never ever be bought from place like ncix as well.
Well, all the cons you mentioned indicates you should not buy stuff that you may return it on-line at all. It has nothing to do with NCIX.
gilboman
Jul 17th, 2005, 09:52 PM
Well, all the cons you mentioned indicates you should not buy stuff that you may return it on-line at all. It has nothing to do with NCIX.
yup...so basically no point to buy from mail order place like ncix if you aren't local to them since it will never be cheaper and never get better service from them than a decelnt local store.
samething gonna apply for newegg
gman
Jul 17th, 2005, 10:03 PM
yup...so basically no point to buy from mail order place like ncix if you aren't local to them since it will never be cheaper and never get better service from them than a decelnt local store.
samething gonna apply for newegg
For you, yes.
For me, not necessary.
1. I showed you cases that the price can be cheaper because of price match and when shipping cost is much less than 8% PST. For insurance, I don't buy it. Even if I buy it, it is only 1.5% (3% - 1.5% cash rebate from my credit card).
2. Better service? Not many place offers you free upgrade (worth $50 in the example I mentioned above) because they could not find the part on time for me when they are supposed to. There are couple stores here I deal with, they would send people to exchange the bad or wrong part for me but they also charge more. If I need 'better' service, I deal with that kind of local store for worry free.
3. Time. If time is critical to you, yes, you can get whatever you want in 30 minutes. I can wait longer if it can save me $100. I also do not want to spend time to drive, shop around and wait in the store. I prefer to sit in the office/home with A/C or heat and I can do something else when the parts are coming.
tep
Jul 17th, 2005, 10:07 PM
um... i'd rather have it located in BC so that we Ontarians can save some taxes :rolleyes:
a move to canada is a great idea
Please please locate it in some province (other than Manitoba). Saves me from the evil PST!!! :lol:
RSD
Jul 17th, 2005, 11:42 PM
Should be all over the place with the consumer have the choice of where its shipped from :D
cmge
Jul 20th, 2005, 11:17 PM
not so sure if this maybe a little o/t.. but how is newegg with their refrub items?... good or bad?... been contemplating with making a refurb purchase from their site through a friend from the states... i mean is it any different from buying used goods from fellow RFD'rs?
BoxsterS
Jul 21st, 2005, 02:50 AM
Please please locate it in some province (other than Manitoba). Saves me from the evil PST!!! :lol:
Really? Then why does Tiger Direct charge PST?
gilboman
Jul 21st, 2005, 04:24 AM
Really? Then why does Tiger Direct charge PST?
cause some of their good ships direct from the states?
a lot of the bigger companies charge PST according to where their customers live and not where their canadian operations are located.
Absolute
Jul 21st, 2005, 06:36 AM
Really? Then why does Tiger Direct charge PST?
For Ontarians it's because they have a physical store in our province.
Spare-Flair
Jul 21st, 2005, 08:15 AM
I think the warehouse should be in Alberta. Then nobody in any provinces will have to pay PST. Also, the better business tax structure here should eliminate some overhead and reduce prices for consumers.
If Newegg comes to Canada, they'd better offer A TRUELY AMAZING DEAL in the first couple of weeks, along with free shipping. Tiger Direct had free shipping for a long time after they debuted in Canada.
gilboman
Jul 21st, 2005, 09:18 AM
I think the warehouse should be in Alberta. Then nobody in any provinces will have to pay PST. Also, the better business tax structure here should eliminate some overhead and reduce prices for consumers.
If Newegg comes to Canada, they'd better offer A TRUELY AMAZING DEAL in the first couple of weeks, along with free shipping. Tiger Direct had free shipping for a long time after they debuted in Canada.
but cheapest in terms of operating costs is in ontario ;)
the whole business infrastrucutre, distance to market etc... all point to ontario
codtongues
Jul 25th, 2005, 05:33 PM
Please hurry up and come to Canada. There should be one on the east coast and the west coast.
The Digital Dolphin
Jul 26th, 2005, 02:40 AM
I was just checking newegg's US site to see if they have the DW1640 available yet (they don't), and I was surprised to see the DW1620 (retail) going for about the same price the DW1640 (OEM) is at NCIX (actually, a very good price for the retail box I think, but a very uninteresting product now that the DW1640 is available). More then that however, I was surprised to see this:
**This item is warranted through the product manufacturer only.
Now, I've heard a lot about the great service of NewEgg, and having never placed an order with Newegg, I'm not going to discredit that.... however the impression I get from this sort of statement is: "If you buy this product and something goes wrong, it's none of our concern". Is that a fair assumption on my part?
(the link I'm looking at is here: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827101639)
Just curious
madcow000
Aug 4th, 2005, 02:01 AM
From what I've read of newegg's reputation , it sounds great that they're expanding to Canada , but that's not the main reason I'd like them here .
The fact is that they sell many items that I simply can't buy here . It would be great to get stuff from a Canada based warehouse instead of having to order them from the US .
From experience , ordering from the US is almost always far slower than from a local Canadian seller . It'll be great to get items I want fast without having the hassle of getting them from the US .
Depot4U
Aug 4th, 2005, 04:38 PM
100%
shutterbug
Aug 4th, 2005, 07:13 PM
From what I've read of newegg's reputation , it sounds great that they're expanding to Canada , but that's not the main reason I'd like them here .
The fact is that they sell many items that I simply can't buy here . It would be great to get stuff from a Canada based warehouse instead of having to order them from the US .
From experience , ordering from the US is almost always far slower than from a local Canadian seller . It'll be great to get items I want fast without having the hassle of getting them from the US .
Sure that'd be great IF they imported their own stuff from the states and elsewhere but I suspect they'll just be another reseller like NCIX or Cendirect or any of these mail order places that seem to have huge selection. They get their stuff from the same distributors as everyone else (Ingram, Supermicro, etc) albeit with more buying power. This way they don't have to maintain stock or warehouse space. However if NewEgg doesn't import their own stuff and simply resell then it'll be kinda pointless as they'll be offering the same **** as NCIX.
Evil Techie
Aug 4th, 2005, 07:28 PM
I was just checking newegg's US site to see if they have the DW1640 available yet (they don't), and I was surprised to see the DW1620 (retail) going for about the same price the DW1640 (OEM) is at NCIX (actually, a very good price for the retail box I think, but a very uninteresting product now that the DW1640 is available). More then that however, I was surprised to see this:
Now, I've heard a lot about the great service of NewEgg, and having never placed an order with Newegg, I'm not going to discredit that.... however the impression I get from this sort of statement is: "If you buy this product and something goes wrong, it's none of our concern". Is that a fair assumption on my part?
(the link I'm looking at is here: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827101639)
Just curious
Hi DD,
if you click on the "?" icon right beside that statement on newegg's product webpage, it will take you to a warranty information page.
On that page, it states that all products are offered a 30 day satisfaction guarantee from Newegg. (except "7-day replacement or refund guarantee on all CPUs, including refurbished processors. All other refurbished merchandise has a 15 day warranty period.")
So assuming that "it's none of [newegg's] concern" is pretty unfair as newegg will RMA the item and offer an exchange when you are not satisfied with the item or have problems with it.
djspazz
Aug 4th, 2005, 07:35 PM
Thanks to an Amerifriend, I've been a customer of Newegg for awhile. Great prices, excellent customer service and cheap, fast shipping. Bring it on!
madcow000
Aug 4th, 2005, 10:01 PM
Sure that'd be great IF they imported their own stuff from the states and elsewhere but I suspect they'll just be another reseller like NCIX or Cendirect or any of these mail order places that seem to have huge selection. They get their stuff from the same distributors as everyone else (Ingram, Supermicro, etc) albeit with more buying power. This way they don't have to maintain stock or warehouse space. However if NewEgg doesn't import their own stuff and simply resell then it'll be kinda pointless as they'll be offering the same **** as NCIX.
IF what you SUSPECT is correct , then there'd be less gain in having them here .
Gdog
Aug 4th, 2005, 10:47 PM
Will they hurry up and setup already? I want my cheap electronics!!!!!!!
bionicbadger
Aug 5th, 2005, 12:45 AM
http://online.wsj.com/public/article/0,,SB112311985732004654-x3qD8ODU_jwTvTplbvV6uhXfyBc_20060803,00.html?mod=b logs
Peter Brig wanted to warn others about the problem he had with the computer storage discs he purchased from Newegg.com. But when he tried to post a product review on Newegg's Web site, the company rejected his submission. Twice.
Customer product reviews are popular among online shoppers and an increasing number of merchants are rolling them out. But some retailers are struggling with how they should handle a flood of submissions, and in particular, negative reviews that could make it difficult to sell a product.
The Digital Dolphin
Aug 5th, 2005, 03:43 PM
IF what you SUSPECT is correct , then there'd be less gain in having them here .
And if what is suspected is WRONG, then they would be nothing more then a grey market importer, with little to no support from the local brand departments.
So which would you prefer, a company buying through proper distribution chains like NCIX? or a company that could care less about the proper chain of things, as long as they get the lower price, with not a thought to what the customer might go through AFTER the 30 day in store support? (isn't Atic computers like that?).
Personally... I'm hoping for the proper chain of things, since there is a chance I might purchase from NewEgg if they do. If they just are a grey market importer, then it's not something I would even consider.
Evil Techie
Aug 5th, 2005, 04:24 PM
there is absolutely nothing wrong to sell products that have international and full north american warranty
is there?
would newegg sell products that has no warranty after the 30 day period in canada?
no way
but would newegg import their own products directly from manufacturers and get canadian warranty from the manufacturers? probably
having simple speculations of black and white is not very logical
if newegg is to take the easy way out, they wouldve been in canada long ago and wouldnt be doing well
but like i said, they have taken a very long time planning so obviously they want to do EVERYTHING right
espeed
Aug 6th, 2005, 01:45 AM
any competition is welcome
that means companies can't milk us for our $.
that's why stuff is so cheap in the US.
gilboman
Aug 6th, 2005, 05:00 AM
any competition is welcome
that means companies can't milk us for our $.
that's why stuff is so cheap in the US.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
that is not the primary reason why stuff is so cheap in the US ;) the canadian marketplace is very competitive for computer parts already.
if you really think its lack of competition that is cause of higher PC parts prices in canada then :o :o
gilboman
Aug 6th, 2005, 05:07 AM
there is absolutely nothing wrong to sell products that have international and full north american warranty
is there?
would newegg sell products that has no warranty after the 30 day period in canada?
no way
but would newegg import their own products directly from manufacturers and get canadian warranty from the manufacturers? probably
having simple speculations of black and white is not very logical
if newegg is to take the easy way out, they wouldve been in canada long ago and wouldnt be doing well
but like i said, they have taken a very long time planning so obviously they want to do EVERYTHING right
it doesnt work like that :lol: :lol: :lol:
it is not speculation...it is FACT. manufacturers WILL NOT let companies skip the proper distribution channel to sell in canada. e.g. sony is not going to let newegg get parts directly from US distributor/sony USA to sell in Canada. they will have to go through CANADIAN distribution channels.
now, if a customer bought smth in the US and brought it back to use in CAnada, warranty is no problem. but its totally different when a retailer buys goods designated for US market and resells it in Canada. that is frowned upon and not allowed.
you have no understanding of how commerce/business works do you? think about it, if manufactuers let retailers skip local distribution channels and get merchandise from other countries, BB/FS would get stock directly from US since BB USA already buys from US distributiors to sell in USA, they could just get it from USA distributor to sell in Canada. but the manufactuers won't let them.
and BB sales are much much bigger than Newegg too ;) so dont bother trying to say newegg can entice them with more business ;)
Evil Techie
Aug 10th, 2005, 05:36 AM
it doesnt work like that :lol: :lol: :lol:
it is not speculation...it is FACT. manufacturers WILL NOT let companies skip the proper distribution channel to sell in canada. e.g. sony is not going to let newegg get parts directly from US distributor/sony USA to sell in Canada. they will have to go through CANADIAN distribution channels.
now, if a customer bought smth in the US and brought it back to use in CAnada, warranty is no problem. but its totally different when a retailer buys goods designated for US market and resells it in Canada. that is frowned upon and not allowed.
you have no understanding of how commerce/business works do you? think about it, if manufactuers let retailers skip local distribution channels and get merchandise from other countries, BB/FS would get stock directly from US since BB USA already buys from US distributiors to sell in USA, they could just get it from USA distributor to sell in Canada. but the manufactuers won't let them.
and BB sales are much much bigger than Newegg too ;) so dont bother trying to say newegg can entice them with more business ;)
sry but that is not how good companies work. obviously some big brand items need to be sourced from proper distribution channels
but newegg has sourcing offices in taiwan and china to directly work with the manufacturers to import items and provide direct warranties
they dont get most of their stuff from distribution channels, they skip that tier and have direct relationships with large manufacturers like AMD and Intel
Evil Techie
Aug 10th, 2005, 05:38 AM
What do you people think if NewEgg does crossborder shipping for the near future before they have the warehouses setup and running?
Do you think the shipping time would be too long?
I dont know the details about the customs and tax just yet as this idea is still just an idea and nothing more.
Absolute
Aug 10th, 2005, 08:31 AM
What do you people think if NewEgg does crossborder shipping for the near future before they have the warehouses setup and running?
Do you think the shipping time would be too long?
I dont know the details about the customs and tax just yet as this idea is still just an idea and nothing more.
I would be quite interested in that; at times even the conversion to USD is cheaper than CDN prices!
My main concern would definately be customs and taxes though, I wouldn't order until I knew what other people had been hit with first. As for the shipping times, hey, it takes TD a week to ship a "1-2 day" item.
Canucklehead
Aug 10th, 2005, 08:47 AM
sry but that is not how good companies work. obviously some big brand items need to be sourced from proper distribution channels
but newegg has sourcing offices in taiwan and china to directly work with the manufacturers to import items and provide direct warranties
they dont get most of their stuff from distribution channels, they skip that tier and have direct relationships with large manufacturers like AMD and Intel
Large retailers have significant clout with suppliers so forcing someone to go through a CDN distributor is not likely. Someone like BB or Wal-Mart who are HUGE in the US can force the US-based supplier to work directly with the CDN operation (bypassing the CDN distributor). The main problem is who will provide after-sales service. They get around that by giving a cut of the margin to the CDN distributor even though nothing went through their distribution centre.
I suspect that NewEgg is large enough to do the same thing.
Txiasaeia
Aug 10th, 2005, 09:56 AM
What do you people think if NewEgg does crossborder shipping for the near future before they have the warehouses setup and running?
Do you think the shipping time would be too long?
I dont know the details about the customs and tax just yet as this idea is still just an idea and nothing more.
CUSTOMS is the major concern. If packages were shipped USPS or driven to Canada and shipped from here, I'd order from Newegg tomorrow. If they decide to go UPS or Fedex, forget it. I don't care how long it takes as long as it's cheap!
gilboman
Aug 10th, 2005, 10:02 AM
sry but that is not how good companies work. obviously some big brand items need to be sourced from proper distribution channels
but newegg has sourcing offices in taiwan and china to directly work with the manufacturers to import items and provide direct warranties
they dont get most of their stuff from distribution channels, they skip that tier and have direct relationships with large manufacturers like AMD and Intel
like other poster said...newegg or whatever company will then have to give a cut to the canadian divison to ensure they honor warranty and after sales service which drives up the cost to similar if they got it from canadian distributors ;)
newegg will have to pay canadian distribution regardless ;) if they want to sell in canada..they can't skip that tier... as in can't skip paying that tier.
so costs will always be higher for them which will reflect the price...
unless they don't want their customers to have support/warranty :lol:
this is assuming newegg has the clout to do it..and frankly, they are nowhere near BB/FS in purchasing power ;)
Evil Techie
Aug 10th, 2005, 01:08 PM
like other poster said...newegg or whatever company will then have to give a cut to the canadian divison to ensure they honor warranty and after sales service which drives up the cost to similar if they got it from canadian distributors ;)
newegg will have to pay canadian distribution regardless ;) if they want to sell in canada..they can't skip that tier... as in can't skip paying that tier.
so costs will always be higher for them which will reflect the price...
unless they don't want their customers to have support/warranty :lol:
this is assuming newegg has the clout to do it..and frankly, they are nowhere near BB/FS in purchasing power ;)
actually newegg's sourcing strategies is better than BB
thats why BB in the states contacted newegg and voiced their regret that BB didnt invest in newegg sometime ago
that is all i am going to reply to now, by believe me, you are not correct in your posting
i know the operation of newegg inside out and for the most part, what canucklehead posted is correct
of course they will pay the canadian distribution channels for products that cant be imported directly from the factories (very rare)
you are still making speculations because frankly, you dont know the size of newegg's operation and their annual revenue
gilboman
Aug 10th, 2005, 01:11 PM
actually newegg's sourcing strategies is better than BB
thats why BB in the states contacted newegg and voiced their regret that BB didnt invest in newegg sometime ago
that is all i am going to reply to now, by believe me, you are not correct in your posting
i know the operation of newegg inside out and for the most part, what canucklehead posted is correct
of course they will pay the canadian distribution channels for products that cant be imported directly from the factories (very rare)
you are still making speculations because frankly, you dont know the size of newegg's operation and their annual revenue
frankly... if newegg has sizable revenues..they would be a public company by now ;)
and you seem to miss the point completely... newegg will have to pay canadian distribution channels for goods they DO NOT GET FROM THEM anyways, not just for goods they get from them... b/c they are the ones consumers will need to contact for service/support.
e.g. you bypass canadian distributor for samsung and get it straight from korea...your customers buy it... and it needs service. will canadian samsung care? NO... thus, newegg will need to PAY canadian divison to service the goods. this usually is proportional to the number of units sold to canadian consumers
unless newegg is telling their customers that there will be no canadian support/warranty, newegg will need to pay candian distribution channels regardless ;)
Evil Techie
Aug 10th, 2005, 01:31 PM
frankly... if newegg has sizable revenues..they would be a public company by now ;)
and you seem to miss the point completely... newegg will have to pay canadian distribution channels for goods they DO NOT GET FROM THEM anyways, not just for goods they get from them... b/c they are the ones consumers will need to contact for service/support.
e.g. you bypass canadian distributor for samsung and get it straight from korea...your customers buy it... and it needs service. will canadian samsung care? NO... thus, newegg will need to PAY canadian divison to service the goods. this usually is proportional to the number of units sold to canadian consumers
unless newegg is telling their customers that there will be no canadian support/warranty, newegg will need to pay candian distribution channels regardless ;)
yes that is what i mean by taking care of the warranty directly
but they probably wont be paying the canadian samsung im mississauga directly
what they will do is sign contracts with samsung in korea headquarter and have samsung canada to take care of the warranty
newegg has sizable revenue
they have been expanding rapidly and it has taken about a year for them to gather around information and such to apply to the nasdaq
the revenue is there, this year's revenue is estimated to be at $1.4 billion USD
there are simply many procedures that need to be done and since they want to do things right they are still expanding to provide more service to customers in the states while preparing for public release
thats why there was the IPO news not long ago
but that is in the late stage of this public release planning
it takes time
and frankley for a company that has only been running for 3.5 years, newegg is doing it very fast
duckdown
Aug 10th, 2005, 01:58 PM
oh man I wish they'd come to ontario
1V4N
Aug 10th, 2005, 04:57 PM
Here's some interesting info regarding warranty I obtained directly from our inside Intel rep:
Warranty will be handled "slower" if a CPU is bought from "grey market" compared to local authorized distribution.
What this translates to is if the reseller/retailer sold you a defective processor (which they bought through alternate "grey" distributors -- which did not originate from authorized distribution channels), Intel will RMA it at a slower pace, compared to a defective CPU which came from the regular channel!
Intel can check through their codes where the CPU's originated from. They are trying to curb the influx of "grey market" processors.
This is a FACT, and NOT a rumour, since our Intel rep has since confirmed they will be applying and practising this method in the very near future.
It seems Microsoft has already begun marking thier OEM software accordingly, to differentiate the "grey market" from the actual legit, and authorized channel distributors.
Support in the near future will be an important factor when considering if the manufacturer will support them locally, without impeding turn around time, or penalties.
I hope that Newegg will have everything in place when they finally setup shop in Canada.
Evil Techie
Aug 10th, 2005, 05:02 PM
Here's some interesting info regarding warranty I obtained directly from our inside Intel rep:
Warranty will be handled "slower" if a CPU is bought from "grey market" compared to local authorized distribution.
What this translates to is if the reseller/retailer sold you a defective processor (which they bought through alternate "grey" distributors -- which did not originate from authorized distribution channels), Intel will RMA it at a slower pace, compared to a defective CPU which came from the regular channel!
Intel can check through their codes where the CPU's originated from. They are trying to curb the influx of "grey market" processors.
This is a FACT, and NOT a rumour, since our Intel rep has since confirmed they will be applying and practising this method in the very near future.
It seems Microsoft has already begun marking thier OEM software accordingly, to differentiate the "grey market" from the actual legit, and authorized channel distributors.
Support in the near future will be an important factor when considering if the manufacturer will support them locally, without impeding turn around time, or penalties.
I hope that Newegg will have everything in place when they finally setup shop in Canada.
none of that applies to newegg though
since newegg will not be a grey market vendor
eliteblaze
Aug 10th, 2005, 08:51 PM
some of you guys have very simple knowledge of how thing work... a little knowledge can be dangerous :p
Distribution is decided by companies. For example, Business Depot sources their tech stuff from Micro Warehouse / Ingram. While dell Canada sources non dell stuff from Tech Data warehouse. On the otherhand Tigerdirect decided to ship from US. You can do it how you want. distributors do not provide warantee :)
duggyb
Aug 10th, 2005, 09:03 PM
YES!....as long as they dont kill us on shipping and such PLEASE NEWEGG dont do that
THNX
Duggy
Freezer
Aug 10th, 2005, 11:30 PM
New Egg is such a large vendor, it can skip distribution channels for most products, it is like Walmart, they don't need distributors, manufactuer's go straight to Walmart.
It is all in the purchasing power of the company, the larger the company the easier it is for them to do business.
gilboman
Aug 11th, 2005, 05:02 AM
New Egg is such a large vendor, it can skip distribution channels for most products, it is like Walmart, they don't need distributors, manufactuer's go straight to Walmart.
It is all in the purchasing power of the company, the larger the company the easier it is for them to do business.
but a rubbermaid container is not going to need the service/warranty service of a computer part ;) hence why the need for newegg to PAY canadian distribution channels REGARDLESS since the canadian distributors of the product will need to service/warranty the stuff newegg sold to canadians ;)
Evil Techie
Aug 11th, 2005, 01:14 PM
but a rubbermaid container is not going to need the service/warranty service of a computer part ;) hence why the need for newegg to PAY canadian distribution channels REGARDLESS since the canadian distributors of the product will need to service/warranty the stuff newegg sold to canadians ;)
the contracts with the vendor will have the canadian warranty covered with the companies' canadian branches
since newegg is so big, they will have a lot of bargaining rights and price will still be low
when newegg actually has warehouses in canada, they might be getting stuff from the vendors' canadian branches but the contracts would be directly signed with those vendors
it will still take like 1 year for them to setup and get everything running locally it seems
it takes time to get the automation machines all imported and installed too in the warehouses
also legal issues will have to be taken care of as well
so in the mean time, they will try to do crossborder shipping and that will probably begin testing in 3 months
The Digital Dolphin
Aug 12th, 2005, 10:48 AM
the contracts with the vendor will have the canadian warranty covered with the companies' canadian branches
since newegg is so big, they will have a lot of bargaining rights and price will still be low
when newegg actually has warehouses in canada, they might be getting stuff from the vendors' canadian branches but the contracts would be directly signed with those vendors
This is the same for Futurshop/BestBuy and even some of the larger/better medium sized computer stores.
Some of the ideallistic views some people have of this industry are downright amazing! :rolleyes: (obviously NOT pointed at EvilTechie)
jiffylube1024
Aug 12th, 2005, 02:02 PM
I'd definitely be interested in a Canadian NewEgg division - they have some of the best prices around!
guest10586
Aug 12th, 2005, 02:40 PM
When are they coming? This thread is pretty old...
Cisco KId
Aug 12th, 2005, 02:58 PM
Personally neweggs support and service has dropped from what it has been in the past.
Their pricing has also become less competetive.
Do I welcome it, sure because it will create more competition, but personally their are other US online vendors offering better prices now .
mempf
Aug 17th, 2005, 12:20 AM
So is newegg doing cross border shiping? if so how soon will we see this?
coomar
Aug 17th, 2005, 02:48 PM
no newegg is planning on starting a canadian division, like tigerdirect.com/.ca and ncix.com/.ca
it will probably drive prices down a little, depends on where they setup (i'm guessing ontario), saving the PST can help whittle down prices for customers
Evil Techie
Aug 17th, 2005, 02:57 PM
So is newegg doing cross border shiping? if so how soon will we see this?
yes they will do cross border shipping before they finish with setting up warehouses and all that
should be at least 3~4 months from now
but not much longer than that
The Digital Dolphin
Aug 18th, 2005, 10:04 PM
no newegg is planning on starting a canadian division, like tigerdirect.com/.ca and ncix.com/.ca
it will probably drive prices down a little, depends on where they setup (i'm guessing ontario), saving the PST can help whittle down prices for customers
There is no more *driving* down to do with prices. Perhaps *widdling* is possible... but even that has almost no room.
I don't think people realize that most hardware is sold only $1 or $2 above cost... :|
PPPP
Aug 18th, 2005, 10:21 PM
Really? the profit margin is that little?
xilinx
Aug 18th, 2005, 11:35 PM
man...i remember like 4-5 years back. newegg had the best prices i've ever seen. and shipping was practically a non-issue. everybody who wanted comp parts wanted to get them from newegg....not only was the selection absolutely mind boggling....but also the good reviews i've heard from hardcore comp geeks in the states.
unfortunately...prices have shot up in recent years (relative to before) and shipping has become a killer. newegg isn't what it used to be. many are now shifting to cheaper alternatives...such like zoomzipfly
hopefully newegg will bring some needed competition to online vendors like ncix
CompWizrd
Aug 18th, 2005, 11:56 PM
I don't think people realize that most hardware is sold only $1 or $2 above cost... :|
In the US, perhaps.. Canadian at-cost hardware prices are WAY higher than at-cost in the US, i've seen 30% or more.. and then there's Dell.ca, charging sometimes 60% more.
felix
Aug 19th, 2005, 12:39 AM
yes they will do cross border shipping before they finish with setting up warehouses and all that
Won't we have to pay duty tax on the items then when it crosses the border?
ProfessorChaos
Aug 19th, 2005, 01:19 AM
In the US, perhaps.. Canadian at-cost hardware prices are WAY higher than at-cost in the US, i've seen 30% or more.. and then there's Dell.ca, charging sometimes 60% more.
we are talking reseller cost not manufacturer cost....Dell has a 60% markup because they can...they are the only vendor with your products...
CompWizrd
Aug 19th, 2005, 09:11 AM
we are talking reseller cost not manufacturer cost....Dell has a 60% markup because they can...they are the only vendor with your products...
Yeah, bad example there.. but even if you look at techdata and other distributors in canada, the pricing is way higher.
-Jb-
Aug 19th, 2005, 02:17 PM
No affiliation to Newegg, but some idle thoughts.
If Newegg was going to offer cross-border shipping in 3-4 months as was mentioned previously, it would fall into November - December range... ideal for an X-mas and/or Boxing Day Specials.
IMO, that's an ideal time to announce such a policy change (You're going to have to offer huge starting specials.. might as well make it a time when other people also offer them, and when it is expected of you as a retailer). Sure you will have your lost leaders ($0.09 items from NCIX, anyone?), but hopefully the other big purchases will make up for it.
I am close to TD and CC, but due to bad experiences with both places, I would only consider shopping there for something that would require absolutely no chance of an Exchange/RMA/warranty issue occuring (eg. A CD holder that was well priced).
I want to pay for what something is worth, not how cheap I can get it (like DD). Or else, over time, the quality of the product I'm buying will fall to the price I'm paying for it.
Other things I like to find in a webstore:
- 100% PM policy to other vendors
- No credit card surcharges
- Excellent Customer service with flexible returns/RMA
- Realistic shipping rates (I understand that ordering a 19" CRT or a computer case might cost a little, but a stick or two of Ram should be <$5.00, or free.)
- If shipping Cross-border, duties/delays due to border issues must be kept at a minimum
- A toll free number for concerns about my order. I do not like the idea of paying for a long distance call to a retailer to fix -their- mistake about my order.
- Prices on products that stay competitive while still being able to maintain all above points. If I see prices for a new 74G Raptor at $150 CDN, something is wrong in the picture.
- Selection, and availability of, most/all brands under proper distribution channels. If Newegg offers TY, it better be legit. :arrowl:
Anyway, back to minor squabbling!
J
1V4N
Aug 19th, 2005, 11:38 PM
No affiliation to Newegg, but some idle thoughts.
Other things I like to find in a webstore:
- 100% PM policy to other vendors
- No credit card surcharges
- Excellent Customer service with flexible returns/RMA
- Realistic shipping rates (I understand that ordering a 19" CRT or a computer case might cost a little, but a stick or two of Ram should be <$5.00, or free.)
- If shipping Cross-border, duties/delays due to border issues must be kept at a minimum
- A toll free number for concerns about my order. I do not like the idea of paying for a long distance call to a retailer to fix -their- mistake about my order.
- Prices on products that stay competitive while still being able to maintain all above points. If I see prices for a new 74G Raptor at $150 CDN, something is wrong in the picture.
- Selection, and availability of, most/all brands under proper distribution channels. If Newegg offers TY, it better be legit. :arrowl:
Anyway, back to minor squabbling!
J
1. The only way a price can be actually beaten, is if the vendor/reseller is willing to sell at a loss (but makes up from the shipping/handling charges), or they sell an item which they some how obtained "from parts unknown".
2. Credit Card companies can charge the vendor 1.5%-3.3% of the total billable amount, which can be substantial when the margins on most PC components are 10% or less.....so that represents a noticeable hit when working on slim margins.
3. Company's which operate on slim margins normally don't pay attention to customer service because in most cases, the customer is only concerned about the bottom price, and service an after thought.
4. Most online shipping orders are sold to cover shipping materials and at the same time, to make up some additional profits. It's rare when a company will offer bottom shipping prices unless their volumes are in the range of DELL. Believe it or not though, shipping charges can be a killer. A $200 dual kit of ram can cost much more than $5.00 due to shipping insurance/destination and packing materials PLUS the hired labour to process the order (I know first hand).
Those are my observations, and personal/professional experiences, I hope those can explain a few things.
-Jb-
Aug 20th, 2005, 12:05 AM
1. The only way a price can be actually beaten, is if the vendor/reseller is willing to sell at a loss (but makes up from the shipping/handling charges), or they sell an item which they some how obtained "from parts unknown".
2. Credit Card companies can charge the vendor 1.5%-3.3% of the total billable amount, which can be substantial when the margins on most PC components are 10% or less.....so that represents a noticeable hit when working on slim margins.
3. Company's which operate on slim margins normally don't pay attention to customer service because in most cases, the customer is only concerned about the bottom price, and service an after thought.
4. Most online shipping orders are sold to cover shipping materials and at the same time, to make up some additional profits. It's rare when a company will offer bottom shipping prices unless their volumes are in the range of Dell. Believe it or not though, shipping charges can be a killer. A $200 dual kit of ram can cost much more than $5.00 due to shipping insurance/destination and packing materials PLUS the hired labour to process the order (I know first hand).
Those are my observations, and personal/professional experiences, I hope those can explain a few things.
In response to 1), that sounds reasonable.
With credit card surcharges, offering incentives to pay cash/EMT are nice to see. Like NCIX's scheme, but perhaps with a lower minimum price amount. For most small orders on NCIX, I use VISA to get my rebate through that, but on big orders, I use EMT to build up on points to get free shipping orders.
I would rate service equal to or higher than low price. There are plenty of computer shops that offer rock bottom prices and ignore you before, during, and after the sale transaction. But to find one which can offer prices reasonably close to that and actually help you in some way is a gem to find.
As for your last point, if a B&M store uses Online sales to boost profits I can see this is true on pretty much all points. However, for someone like Newegg which seems to offer a purely Web-Based business model (versus NCIX/etc. which have stores and warehouses), sending stuff online is their -only- way to make a profit.
With the example of Ram, if it costs more than $5, but if I can see some tangible benefit from it, then I don't mind as much. While I'd love to pay <$5 to get it shipped, if it costs me $7-8, but it is sent Express, insured, and/or looks so well shipped when I receive it no damage could happen, that would make up for the extra cost. While all those things would add to cost to the retailer, hopefully some balance could be reached that could help me (the greedy computer tech/end-user) and the retailer.
J
hyperion
Aug 20th, 2005, 12:08 AM
Canadian market needs more competition, so bring in NewEgg.
NODES
Aug 25th, 2005, 12:36 PM
Bye Bye Tiger Direct...
The Digital Dolphin
Aug 25th, 2005, 12:58 PM
It looks like Newegg has begun approaching various vendors for pricing and availability on products here in Canada. From what I've heard, they're attempting to use their reputation to get exclusivity on some items. Only time will tell if the Walmart practice of "sell it to me at this price, with these terms, or I won't sell it" will prevail, or if we'll see more reasonable buying habits forced on Newegg.
And yes, I realize that I'm one of VERY few people who is tired of an over-saturated market :evil:
xwar
Aug 25th, 2005, 01:00 PM
sure
Evil Techie
Aug 25th, 2005, 07:01 PM
Ive just had a meeting with newegg today
good news is that newegg will be offering crossborder shipping soon
the deadline is set for within 3 months
Oct 10 is most likely
as for product sourcing, all products will still come from USA and warranty issues will be worked out
shipping and brokage fees will be worked out too
it will be an inclusive deal with UPS at this moment
newegg will try to keep the shipping rate as low as possible
I will update this thread as the deadline comes near
in the mean time, feel free to spread the word
:)
NG
Aug 26th, 2005, 09:39 AM
Bye Bye Tiger Direct...
Yep. NCIX should be kinda worried but TD will be completely screwed with the rep they've build up in Canada. I'm sure after awhile of newegg in Canada they'll be doing as much sales as Compgeeks - who doesn't even have a Canadian store lol.
HoTiCE_
Aug 26th, 2005, 09:55 AM
it will be an inclusive deal with UPS at this moment
newegg will try to keep the shipping rate as low as possible
might as well NOT ship to Canada at all if they going UPS only
Evil Techie
Aug 26th, 2005, 11:27 AM
might as well NOT ship to Canada at all if they going UPS only
but you will not be charged a huge brokage fee as the shipping rate will be all inclusive
so the price you see on the website will be what you pay with ur credit card and nothing at the door
Txiasaeia
Aug 26th, 2005, 11:35 AM
it will be an inclusive deal with UPS at this moment
newegg will try to keep the shipping rate as low as possible
UPS? No bloody way I'd order *anything* from the US if I had to deal with UPS. I'll spread the word, definitely - don't order from newegg.com unless you want to pay more for brokerage than any given item actually costs.
Txiasaeia
Aug 26th, 2005, 11:36 AM
but you will not be charged a huge brokage fee as the shipping rate will be all inclusive
so the price you see on the website will be what you pay with ur credit card and nothing at the door
With UPS, there's two options: cheap shipping and huge brokerage fee, or wildly expensive shipping (i.e. 2-3x more than USPS Global Express) and no brokerage fee, because with UPS Express & Expedited the brokerage fee is included in the shipping price.
Are you telling me that there's a third option: cheap shipping and no brokerage? I'll believe it when I see it.
NG
Aug 26th, 2005, 12:14 PM
With UPS, there's two options: cheap shipping and huge brokerage fee, or wildly expensive shipping (i.e. 2-3x more than USPS Global Express) and no brokerage fee, because with UPS Express & Expedited the brokerage fee is included in the shipping price.
Are you telling me that there's a third option: cheap shipping and no brokerage? I'll believe it when I see it.
It sounds exactly like the Tiger Direct model - and their shipping is about what NCIX shipping is.
Txiasaeia
Aug 26th, 2005, 12:34 PM
It sounds exactly like the Tiger Direct model - and their shipping is about what NCIX shipping is.
I've not ordered from TD before, so how does it work?
The Digital Dolphin
Aug 26th, 2005, 01:05 PM
but you will not be charged a huge brokage fee as the shipping rate will be all inclusive
so the price you see on the website will be what you pay with ur credit card and nothing at the door
The UPS driver will probably try to charge it anyways.... I find UPS drivers in Canada are VERY quick to collect brokerage... even when it isn't applicable. Of course if you call them on it, they'll check the records, and won't charge it... but you have to actually CALL them on it! (I have refund cheques from UPS from when other people received the shipment and didn't know to call them on the charges...).
Evil Techie
Aug 26th, 2005, 03:00 PM
well like i said, the details will be worked out in a month and this is only a temporary solution to bring newegg to canada before they finish their full blown warehouse operations in canada
speculations are probably not very accurate at this moment
also since newegg and UPS have very good top executive relationships, i dont see why there cant be a very good deal worked out for the canadian consumers of newegg
and i dont believe the UPS drivers will charge anything extra because that can get the drivers fired
once newegg starts this operation in October, im sure all of the drivers will be informed of the changes that will happen or the special cases for newegg customers
NG
Aug 26th, 2005, 03:09 PM
I've not ordered from TD before, so how does it work?
They work out everything behind the scenes. I think they use their Ontario store as somesort of tax/duty haven for stuff they import since the prices between the .com and .ca are about the exchange rate and the shipping is about what it'd cost to order from a site like ncix or blankmedia.
Even tho it's UPS it's just like ordering from a Canadian store with Canada Post - only you just have one shipping option that's reasonable. There is a "truck" option but it's obscene in price.
duckdown
Aug 26th, 2005, 03:40 PM
How much friggin longer until we can order from them
Evil Techie
Aug 26th, 2005, 05:56 PM
How much friggin longer until we can order from them
ive given an update in post 356
ill go update my original thread post now
GnomeCop
Aug 26th, 2005, 06:28 PM
have they officially decided to release this info already?
I dont see any announcement on their site
Evil Techie
Aug 26th, 2005, 06:51 PM
have they officially decided to release this info already?
I dont see any announcement on their site
well they asked me to spread the word
they plan to do some public release later
so you guys here on RFD are the first to hear this news :)
maybe ill get them to give RFDers some discounts
thrifty1
Aug 26th, 2005, 06:53 PM
well they asked me to spread the word
they plan to do some public release later
so you guys here on RFD are the first to hear this news :)
maybe ill get them to give RFDers some discounts
what's with the maybe???
Sgt_Strider
Aug 27th, 2005, 02:24 AM
So in the meantime they will cross border shipped, but eventually have warehouses in Canada? If so, will brokage fees be dropped and which provinces will have the warehouses?
Evil Techie
Aug 27th, 2005, 02:28 AM
So in the meantime they will cross border shipped, but eventually have warehouses in Canada? If so, will brokage fees be dropped and which provinces will have the warehouses?
yes thats right
it will probably take another year to get the warehouses done
when that is done, products will be shipped from the warehouses in canada and of course, no brokage fee will exist
in the mean while, brokage fee will not exist for the customers as well
there will only be one shipping fee and you will be able to see it when you are checking out the shopping cart on the site
the locations have not been chosen yet but i think newegg may stay away from opening one in montreal quebec because its tough to open companies there while there are still many language laws
however thats not set in stone as everything for that project is in a planning stage and maybe newegg will still take on that challenge
we will just have to wait and see
Sgt_Strider
Aug 27th, 2005, 02:43 AM
yes thats right
it will probably take another year to get the warehouses done
when that is done, products will be shipped from the warehouses in canada and of course, no brokage fee will exist
in the mean while, brokage fee will not exist for the customers as well
there will only be one shipping fee and you will be able to see it when you are checking out the shopping cart on the site
the locations have not been chosen yet but i think newegg may stay away from opening one in montreal quebec because its tough to open companies there while there are still many language laws
however thats not set in stone as everything for that project is in a planning stage and maybe newegg will still take on that challenge
we will just have to wait and see
With news like this, I'm tempted to wait until October to order my Geforce 7800 GT. Maybe Newegg can offer better prices, but I'm not sure if I can hang on that long >:(.
Evil Techie
Aug 27th, 2005, 02:46 AM
With news like this, I'm tempted to wait until October to order my Geforce 7800 GT. Maybe Newegg can offer better prices, but I'm not sure if I can hang on that long >:(.
im sure u can
ive held off so many years to upgrade my Ti4200 128mb AGP4x to X800XL and did it at the end of last month
what card do u have right now?
Sgt_Strider
Aug 27th, 2005, 02:47 AM
im sure u can
ive held off so many years to upgrade my Ti4200 128mb AGP4x to X800XL and did it at the end of last month
what card do u have right now?
Geforce 6600 GT, but I'm like an upgrade *****. I have upgraded my PC every year since 2001 just to play games at high detail. I just got a Dell 2405FPW and the 6600 GT just doesn't cut it anymore.
You still haven't answered my previous question.
Evil Techie
Aug 27th, 2005, 02:53 AM
Geforce 6600 GT, but I'm like an upgrade *****. I have upgraded my PC every year since 2001 just to play games at high detail. I just got a Dell 2405FPW and the 6600 GT just doesn't cut it anymore.
You still haven't answered my previous question.
what was your previous question?
6600GT is still ok for many games
if you expect to play BF2 at high details then ull need 2GB of ram, a kick @$$ processor all in a good platform with 7800GT
Sgt_Strider
Aug 27th, 2005, 02:54 AM
what was your previous question?
6600GT is still ok for many games
if you expect to play BF2 at high details then ull need 2GB of ram, a kick @$$ processor all in a good platform with 7800GT
Nevermind, I just realized this is the wrong thread. You answered it about 2 minutes ago.
No man, it just doesn't cut it. My standards are unbelieveably high. My friends say I'm crazy with the kind of money I have invested in upgrading my PC's and buying cellphones. In four years, I have already spent more than 4 G's.
I haven't played much BF2 but from what I read, you don't need 2 GB of RAM even for 1920x1200. Only my videocard is what I consider to be "slow".
AznProto
Aug 29th, 2005, 03:36 AM
I'd love to see newegg come to canada :)
GnomeCop
Aug 29th, 2005, 12:11 PM
hmm it is odd that they would spread the word in this way (before issuing an official release, or this early before launch).
I'm sure many if not all their competitors got an early heads up thanks to this thread.
Evil Techie
Aug 29th, 2005, 12:50 PM
hmm it is odd that they would spread the word in this way (before issuing an official release, or this early before launch).
I'm sure many if not all their competitors got an early heads up thanks to this thread.
doesnt matter, the competitors cant do much about this
GnomeCop
Aug 29th, 2005, 01:24 PM
doesnt matter, the competitors cant do much about this
hahah yeah this is true.
xpat
Aug 29th, 2005, 02:53 PM
I might not buy from them if they ship UPS... UPS has ridiculous charges when shipping to Canada.
Evil Techie
Aug 29th, 2005, 03:52 PM
I might not buy from them if they ship UPS... UPS has ridiculous charges when shipping to Canada.
i guess you havent read my posts before regarding the shipping fee from UPS
The Digital Dolphin
Aug 29th, 2005, 06:45 PM
i guess you havent read my posts before regarding the shipping fee from UPS
Forgive me if I still have my doubts about this. I've been messed around with by UPS's driver's too many times (but continue to use them all the time since their service is great if you know how to deal with the driver's trying to steal your money all the time!).
SubXO
Aug 29th, 2005, 06:57 PM
Heck, the only reason why I'm held off on TD is the shipping cost but if NewEgg is cheaper in both items (i'm sure!) and shipping, you got a customer right here! :cheesygri
Daijoubu
Aug 30th, 2005, 09:21 AM
NOT UPS! Please...
Kiss bye bye to your hardware :D
enforcerviper
Aug 30th, 2005, 10:32 AM
My friends say I'm crazy with the kind of money I have invested in upgrading my PC's and buying cellphones. In four years, I have already spent more than 4 G's.
LOL I spend more than 4G's a year!
yackulic
Aug 30th, 2005, 12:56 PM
hell yaa
The Digital Dolphin
Aug 30th, 2005, 04:18 PM
LOL I spend more than 4G's a year!
I spend that much on Anime :lol:
NewEgg should carry anime and they'll get a lot more of my business :cheesygri
mempf
Aug 30th, 2005, 08:13 PM
Hey Evil Techie, do we have any kinds of guess as to how much crossborder shipping will cost to say like vancuver?
Also how will the USD prices be converted to CAD? Just what CAD is worth at the time?
Evil Techie
Aug 30th, 2005, 08:33 PM
Hey Evil Techie, do we have any kinds of guess as to how much crossborder shipping will cost to say like vancuver?
Also how will the USD prices be converted to CAD? Just what CAD is worth at the time?
i really cant give an estimate at the moment
too early to say as they havent worked out the details with UPS yet
there is also another option with UPS that i will reveal when times draws near and it is confirmed
the USD will be converted to CAD near conversion rate i believe
mempf
Aug 30th, 2005, 08:37 PM
Thank You, But i'm still a bit skeptic.
When will we see an offical annoucment on newegg.com?
Dr.Evil
Aug 30th, 2005, 10:44 PM
I just cancelled my order with Ncix, there customer service has gone down hill. Still waiting for my refund of 3209.76. They said it was refunded already, well it hasn't. They now take 2 days to respond to your trouble ticket. Can't wait for Newegg to start shipping to Canada.
Dr.Evil
Aug 30th, 2005, 10:45 PM
^ I wish I could order it from newegg today, hard to keep on waiting.
Fantaz
Aug 31st, 2005, 01:01 AM
Why do you want to support an American company when you can get the same price at a Canadian store?
Evil Techie
Aug 31st, 2005, 01:08 AM
Why do you want to support an American company when you can get the same price at a Canadian store?
its about the quality of the service
i guess you havent heard about newegg's reputation before?
mempf
Aug 31st, 2005, 01:15 AM
Why do you want to support an American company when you can get the same price at a Canadian store?
You can get Neweggs prices in canada? :confused: :confused:
WHERE?
oc613
Aug 31st, 2005, 01:26 AM
I don't think I will ever order from them if they are based/have operations in Ontario.
Why? ...
... Because I can just pricematch at NCIX with NewEgg, pay only one tax, and get free express RMA just incase.
I tend to order my computer stuff in large lots a couple times a year to save on shipping and hassle ect.. So out of province saves me a fair chunk of change everytime...
It doesn't make much sense to open a storefront in Ontario, Quebec, or B.C., as you are potentially loosing a huge customer base becuase people may want to save the extra tax....
Sgt_Strider
Aug 31st, 2005, 01:58 AM
Why do you want to support an American company when you can get the same price at a Canadian store?
How sure are you that Newegg will have the same prices as other Canadian stores? It's not even launched in Canada and I think it would be premature to assume so. If Newegg is cheaper, I can't imagine anyone not ordering from them unless their CS turns crap.
Evil Techie
Aug 31st, 2005, 12:54 PM
I don't think I will ever order from them if they are based/have operations in Ontario.
Why? ...
... Because I can just pricematch at NCIX with NewEgg, pay only one tax, and get free express RMA just incase.
I tend to order my computer stuff in large lots a couple times a year to save on shipping and hassle ect.. So out of province saves me a fair chunk of change everytime...
It doesn't make much sense to open a storefront in Ontario, Quebec, or B.C., as you are potentially loosing a huge customer base becuase people may want to save the extra tax....
newegg has no intentions to open store fronts as internet shopping is pretty convenient already
but that also depends on the canadian market so who knows
espeed
Sep 1st, 2005, 11:34 PM
I say welcome Newegg.
Those Americans are getting too many deals that we don't get! with all their MIR's
tweakerxp
Sep 3rd, 2005, 11:22 PM
Oh boy.. we've been Digged (http://www.digg.com/links/Newegg_Canada_is_Coming_) A big welcome to all Diggers! Hopefully the forums will hold up!
RSD
Sep 3rd, 2005, 11:30 PM
OMG WOOHOOO competition for blankmedia.ca :twisted: cheaper mini dvds
acb82
Sep 3rd, 2005, 11:59 PM
Bah, I wanted to hold off for the newegg launch to order the bulk of my computer parts but I couldn't wait and just placed an order with NCIX last week. Any chance of newegg offering some grand opening launch specials especially for Canadians when they start shipping to Canada on Oct. 10th? A part of me kinda hopes they don't so I don't regret my recent NCIX purchase too much. :lol:
bokep
Sep 4th, 2005, 12:11 AM
Any chance of newegg offering some grand opening launch specials especially for Canadians when they start shipping to Canada on Oct. 10th?
that's actually what i'm waiting and hoping for :)
Sgt_Strider
Sep 4th, 2005, 02:12 AM
Bah, I wanted to hold off for the newegg launch to order the bulk of my computer parts but I couldn't wait and just placed an order with NCIX last week. Any chance of newegg offering some grand opening launch specials especially for Canadians when they start shipping to Canada on Oct. 10th? A part of me kinda hopes they don't so I don't regret my recent NCIX purchase too much. :lol:
How do you know they will start shipping on Oct. 10?
Evil Techie
Sep 4th, 2005, 02:28 AM
i think he just heard me talking about it on a teamspeak server
then he might be RW99 also...
hehe
or hes part of a gaming league that newegg is sponsoring
well anyways
yes, it is Oct 10th that newegg is aiming for
bokep
Sep 4th, 2005, 10:42 PM
any word on some kind of grand opening special?
MapleCanuck
Sep 5th, 2005, 10:06 PM
oct 10 can't wait :)
duckdown
Sep 5th, 2005, 10:15 PM
i have this feeling of impending doom when it comes to the shipping charges
never gonna be less than $20 i bet
i seriously hope its not like NCIX and they don't completely blow it with the shipping.. NCIX is like the last place I'd order from online now.. $17 S&H just for a pack of $36.00 DVDS
outrageous
Sgt_Strider
Sep 5th, 2005, 11:58 PM
i have this feeling of impending doom when it comes to the shipping charges
never gonna be less than $20 i bet
i seriously hope its not like NCIX and they don't completely blow it with the shipping.. NCIX is like the last place I'd order from online now.. $17 S&H just for a pack of $36.00 DVDS
outrageous
I agree and ncix may be forced to lower prices and shipping as soon as newegg launches (that's assuming newegg's prices and shipping are competitive).
Gary King
Sep 12th, 2005, 12:32 AM
Any updated news on this? What will the release date be for NewEgg.ca? Or will there be a beta version, pre-public-release, etc.? (If so, I'm definitely IN!)
legion
Sep 12th, 2005, 02:27 AM
Here's hoping the October launch for Canadian shipping holds. I can probably hold out a month before upgrading to my new A64 rig (though suffering along with this decrepid old P3 in the meantime is painful... I miss my AXP 2500+ already :( ), but if the Canadian launch is pushed back at all, I'd end up going nuts trying to wait it out.
GnomeCop
Sep 13th, 2005, 02:53 PM
This forum is a great start for newegg to start bringing awareness of its shipping to Canada soon. I was wondering though, what other sites/forums do Canadian shoppers frequent, where it would be good for newegg to let the computer/hot deal enthusiasts know about their Canadian plans?
Any besides the obvious ones like hardocp, anandtech, toms hardware etc?
RSD
Sep 13th, 2005, 06:30 PM
hope they do some rfd exclusive deals :twisted:
Firestorm ZERO
Sep 13th, 2005, 06:48 PM
Should I wait it out? I plan on building an entire A64 system to replace my computer.
MtX
Sep 13th, 2005, 07:00 PM
if they can match NCIX's quick shipping, but offer it at low prices like their american counterpart, newegg will become my new computer retailer..
RW99
Sep 13th, 2005, 07:25 PM
i think he just heard me talking about it on a teamspeak server
then he might be RW99 also...
hehe
or hes part of a gaming league that newegg is sponsoring
well anyways
yes, it is Oct 10th that newegg is aiming for
Haha, no that's not me ;)
ProfessorChaos
Sep 13th, 2005, 08:17 PM
sweet oct 10.....hope the prices wont get killed by ups's shipping....
Evil Techie
Sep 13th, 2005, 08:23 PM
the reason why newegg chose UPS is because in their research, they found that UPS is able to give them the best quality of service in Canada and best speed/price balance
they want to customers to be happy and almost all (if not all) of the decisions are made to satisfy the canadian consumers
fivegorillas
Sep 13th, 2005, 08:30 PM
Sounds great. I'm kicking myself now because I just bought a video card from tigerdirect that I know newegg has for alot cheaper. Hey Evil Techie, what is the tax situation going to be for orders?
Gary King
Sep 13th, 2005, 10:06 PM
sweet oct 10.....hope the prices wont get killed by ups's shipping....
October 10th? So that is the confirmed date? Okay, I'll update here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newegg) then.
Evil Techie
Sep 13th, 2005, 10:23 PM
October 10th? So that is the confirmed date? Okay, I'll update here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newegg) then.
not a 100% set date yet
so im gonna edit that part out
sry, dont want to mass release some information that may not be confirmed yet because nothing is ready yet
things are still going through planning and programming and so on
still some issues need to be taken care of
MtX
Sep 13th, 2005, 10:25 PM
the reason why newegg chose UPS is because in their research, they found that UPS is able to give them the best quality of service in Canada and best speed/price balance
they want to customers to be happy and almost all (if not all) of the decisions are made to satisfy the canadian consumers
im pretty sure xpresspost is faster with their 2 day delivery for ~$10? ups 2 day will cost $20+..
Evil Techie
Sep 13th, 2005, 10:26 PM
im pretty sure xpresspost is faster with their 2 day delivery for ~$10? ups 2 day will cost $20+..
there is no way xpresspost can ship something from US to canada in 2 days with only $10
MtX
Sep 13th, 2005, 10:31 PM
there is no way xpresspost can ship something from US to canada in 2 days with only $10
i was talking about canada to canada.. like NCIX, tehy use xpresspost..
hagbard
Sep 13th, 2005, 11:09 PM
My "thought" at the moment is I'll believe it when I see it. Its been months and months, I've seen nothing.
Evil Techie
Sep 13th, 2005, 11:47 PM
i was talking about canada to canada.. like NCIX, tehy use xpresspost..
newegg wont be having warehouses in canada as of yet
that will still take sometime
so in the meanwhile they are going to offer crossborder shipping from their state of the art warehouses in the states
there are more details in this thread in the last couple of pages
hOrnizuka
Sep 14th, 2005, 01:27 AM
newegg wont be having warehouses in canada as of yet
that will still take sometime
so in the meanwhile they are going to offer crossborder shipping from their state of the art warehouses in the states
there are more details in this thread in the last couple of pages
USP's custom charge will probably pretty high as usual.
akosh
Sep 14th, 2005, 01:44 AM
NewEgg's prices aren't that great. Give me a product from their site and I can probably find a better or equal price here in Canada.
fifa204
Sep 14th, 2005, 01:46 AM
USP's custom charge will probably pretty high as usual.
Well they could do what Tigerdirect does and just charge the PST/GST and handle the brokeraging themselves
bug
Sep 14th, 2005, 02:00 AM
I believe they must have a Canadian address to use UPS world ship.
Evil Techie
Sep 14th, 2005, 03:51 AM
its UPS world Ease newegg will be using
and i dont think any there are any requirements for using worldease as long as newegg is a company big enough to have a big contract
UPS would do business with anyone who has money
even if they need a canadian address, newegg will have that taken care of no problems
those are just tiny details that you dont have to worry about :)
brokage fee and everything will all be included and the price is nothing close to what you pay for when shipping personal stuff or small business
because this is a contracted deal UPS and newegg are working on, customers will receive the best price/service balance available in canada
mempf
Sep 15th, 2005, 01:40 AM
Thanks for an update Evil T!
Will Newegg be using their current site? Or will a newegg.ca open when the crossborder shipping starts?
xphile
Sep 15th, 2005, 07:55 PM
its UPS world Ease newegg will be using
and i dont think any there are any requirements for using worldease as long as newegg is a company big enough to have a big contract
UPS would do business with anyone who has money
even if they need a canadian address, newegg will have that taken care of no problems
those are just tiny details that you dont have to worry about :)
brokage fee and everything will all be included and the price is nothing close to what you pay for when shipping personal stuff or small business
I call Bull***** on that statement..if it's coming from the states USPS is cheaper...end of story.
because this is a contracted deal UPS and newegg are working on, customers will receive the best price/service balance available in canada
I wouldn't buy from a company that ships UPS from outside Canada.
Don't trust UPS shipping to here, and probably never will.
I've been screwed twice by them.. The first time because I didn't know any better, the second time I specified self-brokerage and they cleared it themselves anyways.
(I wouldn't mind buying if it was shipped UPS from WITHIN Canada, but UPS is double the price of xpresspost nationally, so it's moot point.)
Evil Techie
Sep 15th, 2005, 08:54 PM
Thanks for an update Evil T!
Will Newegg be using their current site? Or will a newegg.ca open when the crossborder shipping starts?
im not sure about that yet
xphile can believe whatever he/she wishes
all im saying is that UPS will give the best speed/price ratio
i havent had any bad experiences with them from US purchases yet
cause i expected a high brokage fee in the first place but worldease will have brokage fee included and price is competitive so you will really have to see to make a real arguement
Jeff146
Sep 15th, 2005, 09:38 PM
Any changes on the date?
Cause I want to build my comp just after my video card gets there
bionicbadger
Sep 15th, 2005, 10:12 PM
im not sure about that yet
xphile can believe whatever he/she wishes
all im saying is that UPS will give the best speed/price ratio
i havent had any bad experiences with them from US purchases yet
cause i expected a high brokage fee in the first place but worldease will have brokage fee included and price is competitive so you will really have to see to make a real arguement
I'll believe it when I see it too. I find it hard to believe they can ship stuff with UPS from the states with customs fees included for cheaper than I can buy locally. But if they can, and its significantly cheaper than buying local, I will try them.
Gary King
Sep 15th, 2005, 10:38 PM
Any changes on the date?
Cause I want to build my comp just after my video card gets there
Me too.
I actually want to be able to buy parts to upgrade my current system, so that I can play Black & White 2 (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A//www.lionhead.com/bw2/&ei=2i8qQ6XaA820iwHH9bRh&sig2=iVp9PmNv_pEGn96Lc6G9BQ) on better system specs.
Also, with Newegg's reputation, I doubt (at least, I HOPE not) that their shipping to Canada will be horrible. I mean, the experience SHOULD be Newegg-level/standards. Hopefully. I'll cross my fingers now, until they release newegg.ca
By the way, are there any reference links that show that Newegg really will be shipping to Canada within the next month, and that they will be using the domain newegg.ca?
Gary King
Sep 18th, 2005, 02:49 PM
Any updates on this?
Evil Techie
Sep 18th, 2005, 05:05 PM
ill get some info on monday perhaps
looks the exact launch date was spoiled by the newegg support on ocforums.com
i was hoping to keep the exact date a mystery because before anything is set in stone, there are still some variables newegg need to deal with
its like opening a restaurant, ull never know what comes up to surprise u
but so far, everything is looking good
thats all im gonna say for now :)
Alexo
Sep 18th, 2005, 06:40 PM
Here's my take on it:
1) Price needs to be better than local GTA stores or NCIX et al after GST, PST, shipping, brokerage, insurance, etc. is calculated.
2) RMA needs to be painless. If I have to ship dead products back to the states at my own expense, I may not be willing to take the risk.
If they fulfill these requirements, the added competitions will be good for the customer.
dmdmd
Sep 18th, 2005, 07:47 PM
3 letters: Y-E-S!!!
I am a bit puzzled by why amazon.ca does not ship any computer hardware. Their prices r just so cheap. Now NewEgg is coming! Haha. More competition to FS, Staples and a true good news to consumers. I hate monopoly.
dmdMD
Jeff146
Sep 18th, 2005, 09:41 PM
So oct 10 Nice ... so I guess I'll wait until than to order my parts for a new system
The Digital Dolphin
Sep 18th, 2005, 10:21 PM
Here's my take on it:
1) Price needs to be better than local GTA stores or NCIX et al after GST, PST, shipping, brokerage, insurance, etc. is calculated.
2) RMA needs to be painless. If I have to ship dead products bad to the states at my own expense, I may not be willing to take the risk.
If they fulfill these requirements, the added competitions will be good for the customer.
I don't see how they could make the RMA's painless with shipping across the border. But I'm willing to wait an see... after all, it's coming up quite quickly now (obviously planning to have everything worked out in time for the Christmas rush!).
Gary King
Sep 18th, 2005, 11:23 PM
This is my plan:
Wait for Newegg Canada. Then upgrade or build a new computer. Then finally, purchase Black & White 2 (comes out before Newegg Canada, about 3 days earlier) since I will finally have a PC good enough to play B&W2 at max settings.
Oh, and don't forget the massive amount of other games coming out in October 2005! :D
Sgt_Strider
Sep 18th, 2005, 11:56 PM
Here's my take on it:
1) Price needs to be better than local GTA stores or NCIX et al after GST, PST, shipping, brokerage, insurance, etc. is calculated.
2) RMA needs to be painless. If I have to ship dead products bad to the states at my own expense, I may not be willing to take the risk.
If they fulfill these requirements, the added competitions will be good for the customer.
I'm not sure if it's true, but don't you have to ship DOA items to ncix at your own expense?
Sgt_Strider
Sep 18th, 2005, 11:59 PM
I call Bull***** on that statement..if it's coming from the states USPS is cheaper...end of story.
I wouldn't buy from a company that ships UPS from outside Canada.
Don't trust UPS shipping to here, and probably never will.
I've been screwed twice by them.. The first time because I didn't know any better, the second time I specified self-brokerage and they cleared it themselves anyways.
(I wouldn't mind buying if it was shipped UPS from WITHIN Canada, but UPS is double the price of xpresspost nationally, so it's moot point.)
It's possible that newegg negotiated a contract with UPS for the lowest possible shipping fees to Canada. We're talking about a large corporation getting corporate rates and not individuals getting individual rates.
The Digital Dolphin
Sep 19th, 2005, 02:28 AM
It's possible that newegg negotiated a contract with UPS for the lowest possible shipping fees to Canada. We're talking about a large corporation getting corporate rates and not individuals getting individual rates.
Can the lowest possible shipping rates into Canada be cheaper then fairly heavily discounted corporate shipping rates from Canada Post, when shipping is entirely within Canada?
I'm thinking no.
Although it's always possible NewEgg will subsidize the shipping rates... but with margins being the way they are on the products they well... I just don't think they can afford to do that (although I know they push some suppliers around in the same way Walmart does... so maybe they can?).
Evil Techie
Sep 19th, 2005, 02:31 AM
Here's my take on it:
1) Price needs to be better than local GTA stores or NCIX et al after GST, PST, shipping, brokerage, insurance, etc. is calculated.
2) RMA needs to be painless. If I have to ship dead products back to the states at my own expense, I may not be willing to take the risk.
If they fulfill these requirements, the added competitions will be good for the customer.
RMA will not be painful
you will have to pay a little bit but not for the shipping to US
i cant reveal too much info right now
spol
Sep 19th, 2005, 02:34 AM
they have a an excelent search system actually. NCIX search sucks bigtime/
Evil Techie
Sep 19th, 2005, 02:44 AM
Can the lowest possible shipping rates into Canada be cheaper then fairly heavily discounted corporate shipping rates from Canada Post, when shipping is entirely within Canada?
I'm thinking no.
Although it's always possible NewEgg will subsidize the shipping rates... but with margins being the way they are on the products they well... I just don't think they can afford to do that (although I know they push some suppliers around in the same way Walmart does... so maybe they can?).
we are talking about the best rate/speed of service here
quite frankley, canada post's tracking system sux
not reliable for cross border shipping thats very time sensative and requires almost real time tracking
The Digital Dolphin
Sep 19th, 2005, 02:55 AM
we are talking about the best rate/speed of service here
quite frankley, canada post's tracking system sux
not reliable for cross border shipping thats very time sensative and requires almost real time tracking
I'm deffinately not arguing THAT point, because you're right ;)
But I was looking at it purely from a cost-to-consumer point of view, since some people were going at it from that angle.
rangermcfadden
Sep 19th, 2005, 10:25 AM
RMA will not be painful
you will have to pay a little bit but not for the shipping to US
i cant reveal too much info right now
What if the RMA is NewEgg's fault?
Evil Techie
Sep 19th, 2005, 11:50 AM
I'm deffinately not arguing THAT point, because you're right ;)
But I was looking at it purely from a cost-to-consumer point of view, since some people were going at it from that angle.
sure but newegg's target isnt having the lowest cost possible
they want to be competitive and sometimes beat the competitors on most of the products but the main goal is to satisfy the customers
thats why it stands out from all of the stores in the states
and whats why people rave about newegg in the forums
a lot of the people rather pay a couple bucks more to get what they want faster and have better after-purchase services
RMA fee would be something customers will have to arrange with the customer service depending on each cases just like normal circumstances
company policies are aiming to make customers happy as their top priority though
pcguy
Sep 19th, 2005, 12:29 PM
All I can say is that Newegg better make sure that if UPS is their shipper to Canada that the method used does not shaft the customer with duties, borkerage fees and collection fees for the driver to collect the fees! Otherwise there will be a lot of pissed off customers.
The Digital Dolphin
Sep 19th, 2005, 01:30 PM
sure but newegg's target isnt having the lowest cost possible
they want to be competitive and sometimes beat the competitors on most of the products but the main goal is to satisfy the customers
thats why it stands out from all of the stores in the states
and whats why people rave about newegg in the forums
a lot of the people rather pay a couple bucks more to get what they want faster and have better after-purchase services
RMA fee would be something customers will have to arrange with the customer service depending on each cases just like normal circumstances
company policies are aiming to make customers happy as their top priority though
Of course I know that :cheesygri
But probably 90% of this forum is more geared towards pricing then anything else (due to the nature of the forum...)
I for one am all for paying the worth of a product and the service, and not going to bicker over $0.50 here or there ;)
Evil Techie
Sep 19th, 2005, 03:20 PM
All I can say is that Newegg better make sure that if UPS is their shipper to Canada that the method used does not shaft the customer with duties, borkerage fees and collection fees for the driver to collect the fees! Otherwise there will be a lot of pissed off customers.
for the Nth time, thats not gonna happen
UPS top management have been personally contacted to ensure that they will be providing top quality service to canadian newegg customers as well
dont worry
pissing off customers is the last thing newegg would do
but they will never do that anyways :lol:
Jeff146
Sep 19th, 2005, 04:50 PM
So any more info?
The more the info you can reveal the better
Sgt_Strider
Sep 19th, 2005, 06:04 PM
Evil Techie, how do you know so much info regarding Newegg Canada?
Maybe cuz his dad is Newegg's CEO???
ProfessorChaos
Sep 19th, 2005, 06:12 PM
Maybe cuz his dad is Newegg's CEO???
nah his dad is like co-owner or something.
Evil Techie
Sep 19th, 2005, 07:42 PM
nah his dad is like co-owner or something.
nope
Sgt strider is right
he was saying it with sarcasm
MtX
Sep 19th, 2005, 08:59 PM
I'm not sure if it's true, but don't you have to ship DOA items to ncix at your own expense?
I dont think so, they give you this Purolator account and you jus get them to come to your house and pick up the defective part..
pcguy
Sep 19th, 2005, 11:13 PM
I dont think so, they give you this Purolator account and you jus get them to come to your house and pick up the defective part..
Sorry but that is only if you have their VIP or Premiere Partner membership.
astrojax
Sep 19th, 2005, 11:41 PM
nice!
MtX
Sep 19th, 2005, 11:45 PM
Sorry but that is only if you have their VIP or Premiere Partner membership.
Not when I RMAed my memory, I got 2 RMAs for free and I am not a VIP member.
gilboman
Sep 20th, 2005, 12:54 AM
Of course I know that :cheesygri
But probably 90% of this forum is more geared towards pricing then anything else (due to the nature of the forum...)
I for one am all for paying the worth of a product and the service, and not going to bicker over $0.50 here or there ;)
but the thing is, a mail order company can never match the service of a local store where its much easier to get info quick and get/return your purchases.
Freezer
Sep 20th, 2005, 02:04 AM
I bet the UPS that newegg will use will be similar to TD's, no brokerage, just GST + PST if applicable.
:)
No newegg cannot match speed, but the can match selection and price.
Sgt_Strider
Sep 20th, 2005, 02:09 AM
I dont think so, they give you this Purolator account and you jus get them to come to your house and pick up the defective part..
W/e then...I live where ncix is located.
The Digital Dolphin
Sep 20th, 2005, 01:07 PM
Sorry, I didn't know that. But I'd thought he'd be American, then, and not be allowed to post so much info about Newegg.
Evil Techie lives in Canada... I've even met him before. Even if he was a US citizen, I fail to see why it would affect his Canadian deal hunting and reporting abilities.
wookie
Sep 20th, 2005, 11:07 PM
this would be great!!!
The Digital Dolphin
Sep 20th, 2005, 11:22 PM
Just strange that the son of the owner of a billion-dollar-revenue company would live in Canada, when he could live in the US, even near the company.
Strange, but not uncommon. I'm just saying that it is assumed that the son of the owner lives near the Newegg HQ. But again, just an assumption I had.
No harm done!
It's not uncommon at all in asian families to send their kids to Canada for education. So I don't see why it would seem unusual that a Canadian resident has a father who's CEO of a large company.
But then again... why would he need to find deals and such, especially on RFD where we mostly have tech deals, when he has direct connections to Newegg?
Probably because NewEgg doesn't ship to Canada :lol: (yet!)
Also, I wouldn't rule out casing the competition either ;) (even if it's not a priority, I'm sure it's at least partially true)
Evil Techie
Sep 21st, 2005, 12:20 AM
Just strange that the son of the owner of a billion-dollar-revenue company would live in Canada, when he could live in the US, even near the company.
Strange, but not uncommon. I'm just saying that it is assumed that the son of the owner lives near the Newegg HQ. But again, just an assumption I had.
No harm done!
But then again... why would he need to find deals and such, especially on RFD where we mostly have tech deals, when he has direct connections to Newegg?
CEO is not the sole owner
and is far from owning the whole company
lets not talk about this, u can question me al u want
but what im telling you all is that newegg is coming and what you would like to see from them and what u expect
ProfessorChaos
Sep 21st, 2005, 05:05 PM
America has excellent, world-class education already. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, though.
And, your father is the CEO and founder, is he not? So, I'm sure he still is an important player in Newegg - probably the most important.
Well, maybe he wants to come to Canada? It's not that his parents force him? BC is a great place to live.
also Evil Techie....what kind of gear do u have at home ? 2x30" apple cinema displays? :P
speed freak
Sep 21st, 2005, 05:06 PM
I don't know man, I'll be honest, I am a loyal buyer, and I must say NCIX has been the way for me for several years now...
bokep
Sep 21st, 2005, 08:47 PM
his dad didnt found newegg, i think (recalling from my lurking-days memory) he became ceo earlier this year.
Sgt_Strider
Sep 21st, 2005, 09:02 PM
Don't you think you're going too far with this? Does it really matter who his dad is? I don't think Evil_Techie wants to discuss this in public..
Sgt_Strider
Sep 21st, 2005, 09:37 PM
Whomever his dad is, I was just curious, since I was wondering exactly how reputable his sources were.
But eh, whatever. I was able to verify the news from other reputable sources.
Do you have to post this in the forums? Give the guy a break, he doesn't need crap like this.
Alexo
Sep 22nd, 2005, 08:34 PM
I concur.
Leave ET's personal life out of the forums.
webdoctors
Sep 22nd, 2005, 08:44 PM
I concur.
Leave ET's personal life out of the forums.
Since he's studying engineering I doubt he has one :lol:
Freezer
Sep 22nd, 2005, 08:57 PM
Gary: Enough with the personal stuff. I couldn't care less whose son he is as it's no concern of mine.*cough stalker*
Now Evil_techie, how about some Grand opening deals?!?!? :cheesygri
exclusive to canadians?!? I could use some nice LCD's or hd's
Evil Techie
Sep 22nd, 2005, 11:25 PM
Since he's studying engineering I doubt he has one :lol:
correction, transfering into business
but anyways
enuf about me
lol
im sure there will be some special deals for canadians when they start this
that is something you dont have to worry about
mempf
Sep 23rd, 2005, 10:55 PM
Well with less then a month away do we have any updates Evil Techie?
Price of shipping, new canadian site (newegg.ca), brokerage fee?
Thanks and go Newegg!
Jeff146
Sep 23rd, 2005, 11:25 PM
I just couldn't wait to order my parts so I ordered from NCIX because of the Flat shipping
still hope Newegg would open to Canada faster so that we have more competition
wookie
Sep 24th, 2005, 12:03 AM
Well with less then a month away do we have any updates Evil Techie?
Price of shipping, new canadian site (newegg.ca), brokerage fee?
Thanks and go Newegg!
www.newegg.ca is showing as recently registered. been too lazy to check if it was by some joe blow or if it is actually looking legit.
mempf
Sep 24th, 2005, 12:05 AM
www.newegg.ca is showing as recently registered. been too lazy to check if it was by some joe blow or if it is actually looking legit.
It's legit but also has been that way for years.
Jeff146
Sep 24th, 2005, 12:26 AM
Status: EXIST
Registrar: Webnames.ca (UBC Research Enterprises Inc.)
Registrar-no: 70
Registrant-no: 331776
Domaine-no: 331776
Subdomain: newegg.ca
Renewal-Date: 2007/08/29
Date-Approved: 2001/08/29
Date-Modified: 2005/08/01
Organization: Chad Chen
Description:
Admin-Name: Chad Chen
Admin-Title:
Admin-Postal: NewEgg.com
1012 W. Beverly Blvd, Unit 989
Montebello CA 90640 United States
Admin-Phone: 1 909 3959046
Admin-Fax:
Admin-Mailbox: ******@newegg.com
Tech-Name: Domain Registrar
Tech-Title:
Tech-Postal: Register.Com
575 8th Avenue
New York NY 10018 United States
Tech-Phone: 1 212 7989200
Tech-Fax: 1 212 6299305
Tech-Mailbox: ****************@register.com
NS1-Hostname: dns41.register.com
NS1-Netaddress: 216.21.234.91
NS2-Hostname: dns42.register.com
NS2-Netaddress: 216.21.226.91
Yep, I guess it's legit
Jon Lai
Sep 24th, 2005, 09:38 AM
I just couldn't wait to order my parts so I ordered from NCIX because of the Flat shipping
still hope Newegg would open to Canada faster so that we have more competition
If Newegg is going to come to Canada, their shipping better be hella low or else they won't remain competitive. I'm for Newegg coming tho, more choice, and whenever companies cross the border, they'll usually have lower prices to beat local stores. Bad for Canadian economy, I know, but let's support an American company just this once for their cheaper prices :P The Canadian economy is strong with oil anyways, so no worries. We'll boycott them once they stop buying our oil, lol.
Gary King
Sep 24th, 2005, 08:20 PM
Does anyone know if Newegg Canada will retain the reviews already written at Newegg.com? Because those reviews would definitely be helpful on Newegg.ca, and they aren't location-specific, as well.
Sgt_Strider
Sep 24th, 2005, 08:26 PM
I forgot, how are we going to be taxed? Just pay GST or GST+PST?
Evil Techie
Sep 24th, 2005, 09:10 PM
Does anyone know if Newegg Canada will retain the reviews already written at Newegg.com? Because those reviews would definitely be helpful on Newegg.ca, and they aren't location-specific, as well.
the website would be a straight copy off the newegg.com with options to selecting viewing in canadian pricing and have a canadian checkout button i believe
as for tax, i forgot what my finding was
hehe sry
dont worry
less than a month wait now
mempf
Sep 24th, 2005, 09:12 PM
Is oct 10th still the target date?
wookie
Sep 24th, 2005, 10:24 PM
the website would be a straight copy off the newegg.com with options to selecting viewing in canadian pricing and have a canadian checkout button i believe
as for tax, i forgot what my finding was
hehe sry
dont worry
less than a month wait now
i would be interested in the tax information if you are able to find out again.. cheers for giving all of this information :)
sshe11
Sep 25th, 2005, 12:18 AM
Is oct 10th still the target date?
wow that'll be awesome !!! cant wait !! :twisted: :twisted:
Jeff146
Sep 25th, 2005, 12:23 AM
Most likely you would need to pay both taxes
zzidaric
Sep 25th, 2005, 08:46 AM
PLEASE come to Canada!
Then I won't have to shop at overpriced Future Shop or Best Buy.
I won't have to deal with crap customer service at Canada Computers.
I will have better selection than Logic Computer House
Circuit City - is still the crappy Radio Shack selling Nextech junk.
Please please please come here and give us better selection and better pricing!
Z
Gary King
Sep 25th, 2005, 12:38 PM
All the current information on the Newegg Canada can be found here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newegg#Expansion
jimbojones
Sep 25th, 2005, 06:21 PM
All the current information on the Newegg Canada can be found here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newegg#Expansion
Oct 10? Nice. Hopefully there will be a nice grand opening sale then.
Evil Techie
Sep 25th, 2005, 07:37 PM
All the current information on the Newegg Canada can be found here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newegg#Expansion
please read post 424 of this thread
thanx
Gary King
Sep 26th, 2005, 01:24 AM
please read post 424 of this thread
thanx
But I don't see why you had to remove the entire section in the article. You could have said something like "the date is unconfirmed" or something. More information is better, not less. :D
Absolute
Sep 26th, 2005, 08:59 AM
Nice! Can't wait :)
RageX
Sep 30th, 2005, 05:33 PM
If the products of the newegg.ca is the same as newegg.com then yes.... usually american companies that expand to canada limit the canadian selection of products, so we dont get everything
other then that.... sure bring some competition
l0thar
Oct 1st, 2005, 08:11 AM
Exciting news - will bring a stir in the waters on our side of the border. ;)
Waiting patiently....
Dr.Evil
Oct 1st, 2005, 03:31 PM
9 days to touchdown.
Will be pissed off if I have to wait longer.
Evil Techie
Oct 1st, 2005, 04:17 PM
MIS has some delay, deadline may be extended for one more week or so
dont hold your breath though, cause this still has to go through board meeting after all the work is done
Dr.Evil
Oct 1st, 2005, 04:32 PM
Okay, I am now pissed off, I am going to order through monarchcomputer, screw u and newegg
Gary King
Oct 1st, 2005, 07:40 PM
MIS has some delay, deadline may be extended for one more week or so
dont hold your breath though, cause this still has to go through board meeting after all the work is done
What is MIS?
Ojam
Oct 1st, 2005, 08:07 PM
What is MIS?
Generally MIS stands for Managment information systems, but it's possible that its being used in a different context here.
RW99
Oct 1st, 2005, 08:34 PM
Okay, I am now pissed off, I am going to order through monarchcomputer, screw u and newegg
That wasn't very nice :(
Sgt_Strider
Oct 1st, 2005, 09:28 PM
Okay, I am now pissed off, I am going to order through monarchcomputer, screw u and newegg
No one here gives a **** what you do with your money.
Jeff146
Oct 1st, 2005, 11:48 PM
lucky i ordered through ncix than
bug
Oct 2nd, 2005, 12:34 AM
As long as newegg has good customer service and good prices, Canadians will buy from them.
duckdown
Oct 2nd, 2005, 12:43 AM
I have a feeling we're about to be gouged on the shipping
And my god, why would they make a deal with UPS
1V4N
Oct 2nd, 2005, 01:19 AM
correction, transfering into business
LOL, smart move, since its expected N.E. will do well in Canada, and end up as the top online store for Canadians, you are wise to pursue a business background to take over N.E. Canadian operations later on.....LOL :cheesygri
Hmmm, just checked with BBB in the states out of curiosity for N.E. standings (not bad) record here (http://www.labbb.org/BBBWeb/Forms/Business/CompanyReportPage_Expository.aspx?CompanyID=131461 35)
Some not so positive postings related to N.E. (when doing a simple search) when you Google search under "newegg complaints"
Here are a few the results for those who are interested in not only the bargains, but some of the not so glowing reviews that aren't from Reseller Ratings, here (http://www.dealtime.com/xMR-Newegg.com~MRD-300168~RD-186287165060), here (http://online.wsj.com/public/article/0,,SB112311985732004654-x3qD8ODU_jwTvTplbvV6uhXfyBc_20060803,00.html?mod=b logs) ,here (http://www.complaints.com/directory/2004/december/11/11.htm) and older one here (http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-3000_7-5024525-1.html)
Over all its not bad taking into account they do so much business online. Guess there is no way to please everyone 100%.
At least they aren't as bad as those who complain about CC here! (http://www.resellerratings.com/seller1847.html)
ProfessorChaos
Oct 2nd, 2005, 02:13 AM
At least they aren't as bad as those who complain about CC here! (http://www.resellerratings.com/seller1847.html)
CC isn't bad when the stores aren't that busy...but on weekends its horrendous(sp?)...
i always go in knowing what im going to purchase. go in, ask the cash to open the cabinet for you so he can get the product...in and out in less than 3 minutes.
RMA is decent, just fill out a form and 4-6 weeks later they call you or leave a message.
Just don't expect too much from CC when it comes to customer service, I shop there mostly because they carry the most variety of stock and very competitive pricing as well and their website is great with the online stock counter so i know if theres atleast stock even before i call the store to check on up to the minute inventory.
N.E. would be great if it had pricing and selection rivaling or exceeding that of CC and first to stock new products...and the shipping has to be fast/cheap...
Angultra
Oct 2nd, 2005, 02:14 AM
meh, Newegg shipping here is not the same as having a physical presence in Canada, but it gives us some options...
Evil Techie
Oct 2nd, 2005, 03:53 AM
Generally MIS stands for Managment information systems, but it's possible that its being used in a different context here.
yes same context
i agree that cross border shipping will never be the same as having warehouses here but newegg will still strive to make their customers happy and definately be competitive in terms of pricing and exceeds others in customer service
ive read all of those complaints about newegg and basically they all originate in forums and blogs
in all of those threads, there were at least 10 people defending newegg and providing the OPs a business points of views
newegg has also taken care of its reviewing system issue and is improving it after the complaints about its censoring
from now on, the staff reviewing the posts will leave in some of the semi informative reviews while still keeping out the non-informative reviews such as "man this product sux just because it looks stupid" where some of the complaints originated from
The Digital Dolphin
Oct 2nd, 2005, 05:15 AM
meh, Newegg shipping here is not the same as having a physical presence in Canada, but it gives us some options...
It won't be that much different then when they *DO* have a physical location in Canada. NewEgg isn't a retail outlet, it's an online store with warehouses that you DON'T visit. So whether they're shipping from USA or Canada, the only difference is in shipping time and probably shipping charges (or not maybe?).
MacGyver
Oct 2nd, 2005, 08:52 AM
the only difference is in shipping time and probably shipping charges (or not maybe?).Think customs/brokerage fees/duties.
wookie
Oct 2nd, 2005, 09:12 AM
Think customs/brokerage fees/duties.
this in my opinion will make or break it... hoping they make a pretty good deal with ups so that people wont be receiving a bill 6 weeks later with duties etc..
Jon Lai
Oct 2nd, 2005, 11:04 AM
N.E. would be great if it had pricing and selection rivaling or exceeding that of CC and first to stock new products...and the shipping has to be fast/cheap...
I'd rather Newegg be equivalent to CC for the most part so that they can compete with each other for lower prices.
Think customs/brokerage fees/duties.
Newegg says they will remain competitive, I don't see how if customs have to be paid by consumers that their prices will be competitive, esp with CC's low prices. I'm pretty sure they'll offer All-inclusive shipping packages like their American site where "$x.xx Three Day Shipping" or free shipping will be offered.
If they succeed in Canada, I'm sure it won't take long until they open a Canadian warehouse, where shipping charges might be even lower.
duckdown
Oct 2nd, 2005, 01:50 PM
The only way they can succeed like that is if the shipping is less than NCIX (which is torture)
bug
Oct 2nd, 2005, 04:14 PM
If their US vs Canada pricing strategy is anything like TigerDirects, then forget it. Compare prices between tigerdirect.com and tigerdirect.ca to see what I mean. For example, how does $49.99 USD become $99.99 CDN :confused:
bokep
Oct 2nd, 2005, 05:37 PM
just like what dell is about to do, newegg should just ship to post offices and have us pick them up to save us some money.
Elektronauts
Oct 2nd, 2005, 10:52 PM
In a heart beat! We need another electronics retailer outside of futureshop and bestbuy (they usually only carry mainstream outdated electronics).
TJ2988
Oct 2nd, 2005, 10:56 PM
not that ive ever ordered from them like sending stuff to my florida place but they always seem to have pretty good deals. time will tell
mempf
Oct 3rd, 2005, 10:30 PM
Just a little while longer now!
duckdown
Oct 3rd, 2005, 10:47 PM
let me put it this way..
Canada Computers has the BFG 7800GTX (the card im interested in buying within a month) for $699.99, which through the xe.com currency converter works out to $600 even USD
newegg.com's price on the exact same BFG 7800GTX (and a newer rev. #!) is only $515USD
You can see why NewEgg could potentially be a GREAT thing :D
poppa
Oct 4th, 2005, 06:44 AM
let me put it this way..
Canada Computers has the BFG 7800GTX (the card im interested in buying within a month) for $699.99, which through the xe.com currency converter works out to $600 even USD
newegg.com's price on the exact same BFG 7800GTX (and a newer rev. #!) is only $515USD
You can see why NewEgg could potentially be a GREAT thing :D
I think when people do a straight conversion of USD to CAD, it can be misleading. I'm pretty sure it's not as simple as converting numbers to bring a product into another country. There has to be someone to bring the product over, pad the price to cover the fluctuating loonie, depending on the product, they have to be relabled with English and French and possibly comply to "Canadian standards."
Canucklehead
Oct 4th, 2005, 11:10 AM
I think when people do a straight conversion of USD to CAD, it can be misleading. I'm pretty sure it's not as simple as converting numbers to bring a product into another country. There has to be someone to bring the product over, pad the price to cover the fluctuating loonie, depending on the product, they have to be relabled with English and French and possibly comply to "Canadian standards."
Also have to consider the costs of providing warranty and after-warranty support includings parts/service.
Purchasing power is lower here and even things like freight are higher because we don't have the volumes the US retailers have.
However, the world is flat and if Newegg can offer better prices, that's life. Competitors will have to focus on giving customers something that big US retailers cannot - whether it's service, selection, in-stock position, knowledgeable staff, liberal return policies or other intangibles. This is why for example Canada Computers on Major Mac/Bayview can compete against the Wal-Mart which is just a frisbee-throw with a CD away!
CompWizrd
Oct 4th, 2005, 11:12 AM
Also have to consider the costs of providing warranty and after-warranty support includings parts/service.
Don't they also have to deal with french packaging laws? The last couple "retail packaging" battery backups I bought were strange. There was the normal looking box, with English and French on it. Open that box, and inside was the English only box that was sold in the US.
Canucklehead
Oct 4th, 2005, 11:28 AM
Don't they also have to deal with french packaging laws? The last couple "retail packaging" battery backups I bought were strange. There was the normal looking box, with English and French on it. Open that box, and inside was the English only box that was sold in the US.
Not necessarily. The french packaging rules are federal AND provincial. In Quebec, they have now gotten to the point where the French language Point-of-Purchase materials have to be 2x the size of the English language! This is in addition to the requirement that the information in French has to be in the same font and font size as it is in English.
There is the LEGAL rule and then there is the marketing or "don't pi$$ of the customer" requirement.
Legal rules:
The product’s common name or generic name must be shown on the principal display panel.
The net quantity must be expressed in metric units on the principal display panel and the numerical portion of the net quantity declaration must be in bold face type. Note that all other directions and dimensions on the label must also be expressed in metric units.
The name and address of the place of business of the person by or for whom the prepackaged product was manufactured or produced for resale is also required to be shown in either English or French located anywhere on the outside surface of the package except the bottom.
All information must be presented in English and French, if the product is to be sold in Quebec. Otherwise, only the following needs to be presented in both official languages: the name of the product, (unless trademarked), the net-quantity declaration, and the hazard information required by the CCCR, 2001.
Marketing requirement:
Since you're conveying information that helps to sell the product, it makes sense to do it in French as well.
In French, a comma = a decimal point and a decimal point = a comma. Therefore, putting $100.00 in English = $100,00 in French. Putting 100,000 in English = 100.000 in French!
The company that put an English only box into a bilingual box was being cost effective. Reboxing is expensive and there is a potential to damage or lose items when repacking. However, it is probably more expensive in terms of the reputation of the company (at least in Quebec). Francophones might think that the company does not care to customize product for them.
Potential for a lot of debate on the merits of bilingual packaging etc...not something to go into here LOL
CompWizrd
Oct 4th, 2005, 11:37 AM
The net quantity must be expressed in metric units on the principal display panel and the numerical portion of the net quantity declaration must be in bold face type. Note that all other directions and dimensions on the label must also be expressed in metric units.
Good point there, even if they don't have to deal with language, they have to have a metric box anyways.
duckdown
Oct 4th, 2005, 12:37 PM
So you don't think the final price will be anywhere near $515 after you take into consideration all of these things? It's still GOTTA be cheaper than Canada Computers
Gary King
Oct 5th, 2005, 08:02 PM
Any updates at all on Newegg.ca? The rumored release date is coming real close.
mempf
Oct 5th, 2005, 08:19 PM
Yeah, update anytime soon Evil?
Spare-Flair
Oct 5th, 2005, 09:49 PM
Hopefully they will have a better supply chain/suppliers and therefore have more variety in product selection.
My local brick&mortar stores have horrible selection and always lagging behind the newest releases. NCIX is somewhat better but still pales compared to Newegg.com's selection.
The Digital Dolphin
Oct 5th, 2005, 11:11 PM
Hopefully they will have a better supply chain/suppliers and therefore have more variety in product selection.
My local brick&mortar stores have horrible selection and always lagging behind the newest releases. NCIX is somewhat better but still pales compared to Newegg.com's selection.
I think NCIX scored some major points having the BenQ DW1640 several weeks before even NewEgg did though... not to mention ANYONE else in North America :lol:
Evil Techie
Oct 6th, 2005, 12:22 AM
I think NCIX scored some major points having the BenQ DW1640 several weeks before even NewEgg did though... not to mention ANYONE else in North America :lol:
one explanation for that is US market is much more acustomed to NEC and Pioneer drives and benq drives are not as popular in the states as they are here in Canada
sales numbers were never that high for 1620
mempf
Oct 6th, 2005, 01:12 AM
one explanation for that is US market is much more acustomed to NEC and Pioneer drives and benq drives are not as popular in the states as they are here in Canada
sales numbers were never that high for 1620
SO Techie any updates and will Newegg start shipping on OCt. 10 assuming that is still the traget date
Evil Techie
Oct 6th, 2005, 01:21 AM
SO Techie any updates and will Newegg start shipping on OCt. 10 assuming that is still the traget date
ive already noted on page 34 that there is a delay
i never wanted to give anyone a real hard deadline date and i dont think the newegg customer service on that OCforum shouldve announced it to the public
just dont hold ur breath for this just yet
ProfessorChaos
Oct 7th, 2005, 07:38 PM
so all this hype for nothing?
mempf
Oct 7th, 2005, 07:38 PM
So what kind of delay are we looking at? Few days few weeks or few months?
jaigandhi5
Oct 7th, 2005, 07:39 PM
Good things take time.....just hold on to ur hats :)
duckdown
Oct 7th, 2005, 08:53 PM
bleh.
these delays are quite dissappointing :(
1V4N
Oct 7th, 2005, 09:28 PM
Right of the bat, here's my $0.02
I think it's disappointing that you would continually work up the hype about NewEgg launching (or at the minimum allowing mail-orders to ship) to Canada, and how great it will be when its finally running.
You stressed the importance of its Customer Service, and anything else that sounds great about the company shipping/selling to Canadians over the past few months now...
The best thing to have done was to just keep silent and not get all the RFD members anxiously waiting the time line you were targetting.
I'm certain that once N.E. is actually up and running it will do well in Canada, but I feel that it wasn't the best thing to get everyone excited by continually promoting the fact N.E. is just about ready to launch over and over again, to get everyone hyped and ready to start ordering....and still nothing.
Either way, I'm sure that there will be those who disagree with what I'm stating, but I stand firm in my opinion based on the comments and hyped up expectations which you have been pushing since you have a personal (and likely, business) interest in.
Again don't take anything personally, I just think it would be more appropriate to get your information more concrete before "leaking out" more "potentially incorrect, or misleading details"
Just again this is my $0.02
ive already noted on page 34 that there is a delay
i never wanted to give anyone a real hard deadline date and i dont think the newegg customer service on that OCforum shouldve announced it to the public
just dont hold ur breath for this just yet
Aug. 26 2005 Update
Newegg is planning for an October launch date for their crossborder shipping method to provide their service to the Canadian consumers.
Shipping fee will be all inclusive with brokage fee included when you go checkout on the website. UPS will be the courier and the final purchase prices will be very competitive. Shipping fee will be kept as low as possible so please just be patience and see what the rates will be like because this is a special deal NewEgg is working out with UPS.
Hello my fellow RFD members,
as I have mentioned this before a few months ago, NewEgg has some plans to come into Canada. This includes opening warehouses on the west coast and the east coast.
Now plans are one more step to coming a reality and I have been asked by the corporate planning Assit. Manager to bring this news to you all informally.
I am also looking for your feedbacks.
This would definately create some jobs here in Canada and I am sure that will be welcomed by many of you. However, NewEgg would always like to treat their customers with the upmost respect and provide the best service possible so if you have any suggestions, feel free to reply here and they will definately be considered.
Thank you very much.
David
June 28 2005
ps. the reason NewEgg hasnt started in Canada yet is because they want to plan things out very thoroughly so no customers will be dissapointed by a not so well thought out plan
previous thread content:
How would you feel if Newegg opens a warehouse in canada and opens business to Canadians?
if you dont know what newegg is, it is like tigerdirect except better service and better prices. www.newegg.com
Would you buy from Newegg?
also feel free to post what you would like to see from online retailers?
RW99
Oct 7th, 2005, 10:09 PM
Hmm, I wouldn't be suprised if Evil Techie regrets posting the information on this forum. Too many people giving him a hard time for something he has no control over, just a little inside info. Well I for one want to thank you Evil Techie for letting us know Newegg is coming to Canada. Someone else would have posted it at some point or another if you didn't. I'll be sure to check them out once they are properly set up to do business in Canada ;)
Jon Lai
Oct 8th, 2005, 12:07 PM
Newegg.ca won't be coming this Thanksgiving then? DAmmit
Gary King
Oct 8th, 2005, 02:11 PM
Right of the bat, here's my $0.02
I think it's disappointing that you would continually work up the hype about NewEgg launching (or at the minimum allowing mail-orders to ship) to Canada, and how great it will be when its finally running.
You stressed the importance of its Customer Service, and anything else that sounds great about the company shipping/selling to Canadians over the past few months now...
The best thing to have done was to just keep silent and not get all the RFD members anxiously waiting the time line you were targetting.
I'm certain that once N.E. is actually up and running it will do well in Canada, but I feel that it wasn't the best thing to get everyone excited by continually promoting the fact N.E. is just about ready to launch over and over again, to get everyone hyped and ready to start ordering....and still nothing.
Either way, I'm sure that there will be those who disagree with what I'm stating, but I stand firm in my opinion based on the comments and hyped up expectations which you have been pushing since you have a personal (and likely, business) interest in.
Again don't take anything personally, I just think it would be more appropriate to get your information more concrete before "leaking out" more "potentially incorrect, or misleading details"
Just again this is my $0.02
I agree to this entire post. Hype is no good if it does not lead to anything.
mempf
Oct 10th, 2005, 01:19 AM
Well it's a day from the old deadline, hopefully this delay wont take to long as I really want to order my new 7800GT or 7800GTX
The Digital Dolphin
Oct 10th, 2005, 01:19 AM
I agree to this entire post. Hype is no good if it does not lead to anything.
Sometimes things change. Do you kill the messenger?
I see it from both sides... in that I feel the whole thing was way too over hyped, but I also know what it's like to try to bring advanced news to the masses. I used to try to give inside hints as to what NCIX would be putting on sale every week or two, but after one or two times where things didn't quite go as initially planned, I gave up. The criticism and my own embaressment were enough to keep me from doing it again.
In this industry (I'm talking all IT here), there are no guarentees. We see things going back and forth all the time! Look at the movie studios and Intel over the HDDVD vs. BluRay thing. Not too long ago it looked like Intel and many movie studios were going to be exclusive HDDVD supporters... now almost everyone is either exclusive to BluRay, or in both camps. This is including companies who swore up and down that BluRay would never be capable of the things neccessary to bring them across. Also, look at the Prodisc/Optodisc merger. It took 1 day (2 if you had to wait for english translations), before the merger was put on hold pending a financial investigation into Optodisc (there's lot's happening in the background on this which could change the Optical media industry significantly!). No one even knows what will happen.... not even the people directly involved!!
I could probably write 5 or 6 pages easily, of inside information, which could easily be completely moot and obsolete in 24 hours... but I have no way of knowing right now if that's the case.
So, although I agree this thread has been almost sickening in the amount of over hyped fan-boy drooling, I don't think it's fair to blame it all on Evil Techie. Yes, he obviously has inside connections, and possibly even alterior motives... only *HE* really knows for sure. But one thing is for certain, and that is that he has been 100% honest and upfront about his own position since the beginning, and doing the best he can for the members of this forum.
RSD
Oct 10th, 2005, 01:54 AM
aww this sucks, i was hoping to order mini dvds from newegg, now i gotta get slamed by blankmedia with huge shipping :(
Jon Lai
Oct 10th, 2005, 10:20 AM
Just saw this in the FAQ section of Newegg.COM
http://img434.imageshack.us/img434/1498/newegg7jm.jpg
Notice how it says, "In Canada and Europe.."
Has that always been there?
goofball
Oct 10th, 2005, 10:31 AM
Just saw this in the FAQ section of Newegg.COM
http://img434.imageshack.us/img434/1498/newegg7jm.jpg
Notice how it says, "In Canada and Europe.."
Has that always been there?
not to my knowledge.
wookie
Oct 10th, 2005, 10:42 AM
so this means that they are shipping to canada already?
Evil Techie
Oct 10th, 2005, 12:28 PM
Just saw this in the FAQ section of Newegg.COM
http://img434.imageshack.us/img434/1498/newegg7jm.jpg
Notice how it says, "In Canada and Europe.."
Has that always been there?
good catch
like i said, MIS is working hard on the website now
it is a time consuming process
scheduled launch date is still well within this month
gilboman
Oct 10th, 2005, 01:35 PM
well...lets just hope they dont ship with UPS if the goods come from the states :lol:
Gary King
Oct 10th, 2005, 01:40 PM
good catch
like i said, MIS is working hard on the website now
it is a time consuming process
scheduled launch date is still well within this month
21 days or less? :-0
mempf
Oct 10th, 2005, 03:24 PM
21 days or less? :-0
Well i'm hoping it started on or around Oct. 24th (My birthday)
wookie
Oct 10th, 2005, 04:07 PM
received an email back from newegg.com asking them about the section in their faq and they said they are still only taking orders from within usa.
Jon Lai
Oct 10th, 2005, 09:42 PM
received an email back from newegg.com asking them about the section in their faq and they said they are still only taking orders from within usa.
Thanks for helping us confirm. Did they leak any other information out in the email?
Well i'm hoping it started on or around Oct. 24th (My birthday)
What a great birthday present that would be, eh?
mempf
Oct 10th, 2005, 09:44 PM
Thanks for helping us confirm. Did they leak any other information out in the email?
What a great birthday present that would be, eh?
Yeah it would be!
Come on newegg!
killbillvol1
Oct 10th, 2005, 10:18 PM
If this is indeed true, it would be awesome for they have quite the pricing and selection of PC parts in the US.
Now if their pricing for the Canadian products is different, that would suck.
bokep
Oct 10th, 2005, 10:27 PM
hopefully they will have some really really nice specials when they start shipping to canada. otherwise i'd say that the shipping would kill off a lot of good deals until they have their own canadian warehouses.
Gary King
Oct 11th, 2005, 06:23 PM
I'm fairly certain that they would have opening day specials, and I'm also even more fairly certain that if they did, that they would be seeing an extremely large amount of traffic.
mempf
Oct 12th, 2005, 09:19 PM
So, do we have a date yet? Or is it still unknown?
Thanks
Mgz
Oct 13th, 2005, 02:58 AM
If this is indeed true, it would be awesome for they have quite the pricing and selection of PC parts in the US.
Now if their pricing for the Canadian products is different, that would suck.
us and canada have different tex system :twisted:
Evil Techie
Oct 13th, 2005, 10:28 AM
So, do we have a date yet? Or is it still unknown?
Thanks
i know of a date
but revealing that date is unwise
Ayumix
Oct 13th, 2005, 10:37 AM
Newegg rocks! Bought my first AMD mobo from them years back (IWill KK266). Awesome company. Really helped me sort out issues with Borderfree.com back then (this was back when Borderfree was a startup company doing importing brokerage services).
I like Newegg's selection of items. Much better than any current Canadian online store. Their deals are real deals and occur more frequency unlike NCIX which only give mostly lukewarm deals these days.
I'd buy from The Egg in a heartbeat. Great prices and service. Not many Canadian retailers (if any) can do both so well.
duckdown
Oct 13th, 2005, 01:02 PM
Newegg rocks! Bought my first AMD mobo from them years back (IWill KK266). Awesome company. Really helped me sort out issues with Borderfree.com back then (this was back when Borderfree was a startup company doing importing brokerage services).
I like Newegg's selection of items. Much better than any current Canadian online store. Their deals are real deals and occur more frequency unlike NCIX which only give mostly lukewarm deals these days.
I'd buy from The Egg in a heartbeat. Great prices and service. Not many Canadian retailers (if any) can do both so well.
Cool, I'm also excited about Newegg.. And I definitely agree about NCIX giving lame deals lately, thats the last place I would do my shopping these days..
Gary King
Oct 13th, 2005, 04:59 PM
i know of a date
but revealing that date is unwise
Unwise, because they might change the date (again)?
I hope Newegg won't pull an 'Apple' on us, like when Apple says that they don't have an iPod that can play videos for so long, and then they make an announcement that they really do have one and will be selling it, the very next day.
With a company like Newegg, it would be wise (when they have a real, set release date) to release news about when they will open up, since it's like watching a store getting built and then it opening up. This is because I'm certain that Newegg will have opening deals, and I'm also certain that they would like to have a killer day of mucho sales on that day, too.
mempf
Oct 13th, 2005, 05:38 PM
Evil Techie, why can't you tell us the date?
Gary King
Oct 14th, 2005, 08:04 PM
I wonder, why doesn't Newegg even have a beta test period where people can apply to beta test the website, and if they find any problems, report it to Newegg, instead of them opening up newegg.ca immediately to the public when it does? Or will they be doing that? (And if so... then their release dates are all out of whack, if they are supposed to be releasing it in October 2005 for sure, like Evil Techie stated.)
Evil Techie
Oct 15th, 2005, 01:31 AM
dont worry, when they are ready, they will do the proper marketing and let you all know
it wont be long before the preparation is all done, but ultimately, it is still up to the board to make the final decision after all the decision is done
webdoctors
Oct 15th, 2005, 01:37 AM
forget newegg, can we get dem crazy $300 laptops after MIR they got at ecost, Dell and fry's in da U.S.?? Now that would be nutz...on da $150 Gateway Desktop PCs...now thats worth t :cheesygri
Gary King
Oct 15th, 2005, 01:30 PM
dont worry, when they are ready, they will do the proper marketing and let you all know
it wont be long before the preparation is all done, but ultimately, it is still up to the board to make the final decision after all the decision is done
We need a screenshot or something to keep us interested, and to further wet our appetite :)
Tempest
Oct 15th, 2005, 02:12 PM
I voted for "maybe", when I first heard of newegg I wanted to buy my new graphics card from them....till I found out they were an American company. Then I just plain forgot about ever buying from them. News of them coming to Canada has resparked my interest however.
grilw
Oct 15th, 2005, 02:27 PM
In a HEARTBEAT , YES !!!
Evil Techie
Oct 15th, 2005, 06:45 PM
I voted for "maybe", when I first heard of newegg I wanted to buy my new graphics card from them....till I found out they were an American company. Then I just plain forgot about ever buying from them. News of them coming to Canada has resparked my interest however.
so you refuse to buy from american companies such as bestbuy/futureshop, IBM and so many more?
what does being an american company have to do with wanting to buy from them or not?
world economy doesnt just work by buying stuff only from canada
Gary King
Oct 15th, 2005, 07:26 PM
so you refuse to buy from american companies such as bestbuy/futureshop, IBM and so many more?
what does being an american company have to do with wanting to buy from them or not?
world economy doesnt just work by buying stuff only from canada
He means that Newegg only ships to the U.S. (therefore, he said it is an 'American company'.) I don't think you need to be so defensive. He said Newegg coming to Canada has sparked his interest, as well.
Now, where are the screenshots? :(
Evil Techie
Oct 15th, 2005, 08:52 PM
He means that Newegg only ships to the U.S. (therefore, he said it is an 'American company'.) I don't think you need to be so defensive. He said Newegg coming to Canada has sparked his interest, as well.
Now, where are the screenshots? :(
anyone could misunderstand what he said because it is just simply confusing
and there are people on this board that dont want to buy from american companies simply because they originate from US
i dont work for newegg
why would i have any screenshots?
website isnt finished yet
Gary King
Oct 15th, 2005, 10:35 PM
I'm sure you could get us some screenshots, you were able to leak us some information on its release date, after all :)
I'm sure we'll all just a bit aggravated or irked as to how much longer we have to wait for Newegg.ca, and at least would like to have something to wet our appetite for the time being. I guess an example would be screenshots, demos, etc. of upcoming games, for instance.
Actually, just like what www.neowin.net has done, by releasing screenshots of their upcoming new look for the website (Neowin 5). And it's got rave reviews, so far! :D
mempf
Oct 15th, 2005, 10:49 PM
I'm sure you could get us some screenshots, you were able to leak us some information on its release date, after all :)
I'm sure we'll all just a bit aggravated or irked as to how much longer we have to wait for Newegg.ca, and at least would like to have something to wet our appetite for the time being. I guess an example would be screenshots, demos, etc. of upcoming games, for instance.
Actually, just like what www.neowin.net has done, by releasing screenshots of their upcoming new look for the website (Neowin 5). And it's got rave reviews, so far! :D
Yeah why can't you release any more informatino even though you said you have more info.
It's like you have been told not to release any more info, have you?
bokep
Oct 15th, 2005, 11:21 PM
Yeah why can't you release any more informatino even though you said you have more info.
It's like you have been told not to release any more info, have you?
when he first released the estimated date, even though he said it might be subject to delays, people assumed it was final and used it against him when the date was pushed back.
so him not releasing any more info is clever in his part. save everyone some bandwidth and stop nagging for a date.
Evil Techie
Oct 16th, 2005, 01:17 AM
when he first released the estimated date, even though he said it might be subject to delays, people assumed it was final and used it against him when the date was pushed back.
so him not releasing any more info is clever in his part. save everyone some bandwidth and stop nagging for a date.
that and i never released any exact date
it was the customer service rep from newegg that leaked the oct 10 date on another forum after ppl reading this thread
Gary King
Oct 16th, 2005, 03:41 PM
True - damn that Newegg customer service representative! :(
hagbard
Oct 16th, 2005, 05:05 PM
My thought is that I'd like to see this thread locked. :lol:
thrifty1
Oct 16th, 2005, 05:16 PM
My thought is that I'd like to see this thread locked. :lol:
agreed...40 pages is like "40 days and 40 nights"
Gary King
Oct 16th, 2005, 09:31 PM
Close the thread when Newegg.ca is opened. Shouldn't be long now! :p
Sgt_Strider
Oct 16th, 2005, 10:12 PM
Well maybe if you guys will stop bumping this thread then we don't have to deal with people being let down by the constant delays. I guess I'm included too so I'll shut-up now :lol:
mempf
Oct 16th, 2005, 11:07 PM
Well maybe if you guys will stop bumping this thread then we don't have to deal with people being let down by the constant delays. I guess I'm included too so I'll shut-up now :lol:
I would prefer a date even if it can't be confirmed or delayed at least it is some kind of info.
Ryan
Oct 18th, 2005, 01:31 PM
NDAs are fun.
RW99
Oct 18th, 2005, 01:46 PM
NDAs are fun.
:-0
divx
Oct 18th, 2005, 01:49 PM
what does NDA stand for?
Ryan
Oct 18th, 2005, 02:07 PM
Non-disclosure Agreement.
Even if I knew something -and I'm not saying I do- I couldn't say anything. :)
Evil Techie
Oct 18th, 2005, 02:18 PM
it is dissapointing to me as well
all hope is not lost yet, and im hoping that newegg doesnt let canadians down for this
flame02
Oct 18th, 2005, 02:36 PM
Y E S F O R S U R E ! ! ! !
LarryLat
Oct 18th, 2005, 04:41 PM
from a web developer's point of view:
they were planning on launching Canadian site on 10/10. Didn't happen to whatever reasons. Evil Techie then mentioned that "scheduled launch date is still well within this month".
No sane web-based company schedules a major site launch for a Friday or weekend when developers that already worked non-stop for past few weeks want to be home.
They did not do a quiet soft-launch where people would stumble across the website while they fix small problems. Since there's a NDA with RFD I suspect that they must be planning a major launch with big promotions.
Therefore I would put my bet on Monday October 24, 2005 as the official launch date of newegg.ca
mempf
Oct 18th, 2005, 05:08 PM
from a web developer's point of view:
they were planning on launching Canadian site on 10/10. Didn't happen to whatever reasons. Evil Techie then mentioned that "scheduled launch date is still well within this month".
No sane web-based company schedules a major site launch for a Friday or weekend when developers that already worked non-stop for past few weeks want to be home.
They did not do a quiet soft-launch where people would stumble across the website while they fix small problems. Since there's a NDA with RFD I suspect that they must be planning a major launch with big promotions.
Therefore I would put my bet on Monday October 24, 2005 as the official launch date of newegg.ca
I hope your right as that is my birthday!
divx
Oct 18th, 2005, 05:21 PM
what's the big deal? it's just another computer store
MrDisco
Oct 18th, 2005, 06:18 PM
what's the big deal? it's just another computer store
1. increased competition
2. potentially better prices
3. potentially good customer service
4. potentially greater selection
take your pick.
The Digital Dolphin
Oct 18th, 2005, 06:44 PM
1. increased competition (Not always a good thing!)
2. potentially better prices (not the main priority for them, as stated MULTIPLE times)
3. potentially good customer service (only as good as possible from an online store, which in my opinion can never compete with a good retail store.... not that there are too many GOOD service retail locations....)
4. potentially greater selection (good point).
I chose my point :cheesygri
Evil Techie
Oct 18th, 2005, 07:50 PM
1. increased competition (Not always a good thing!)
2. potentially better prices (not the main priority for them, as stated MULTIPLE times)
3. potentially good customer service (only as good as possible from an online store, which in my opinion can never compete with a good retail store.... not that there are too many GOOD service retail locations....)
4. potentially greater selection (good point).
I chose my point :cheesygri
actually for customer service, newegg has received just as good if not better service than most of the retail stores in US
The Digital Dolphin
Oct 19th, 2005, 12:53 PM
actually for customer service, newegg has received just as good if not better service than most of the retail stores in US
Like I said, there aren't a lot of good retail stores to compete in service with. But I firmly believe that you are ALWAYS able to get better service from a brick and mortar location with good service, then an online store with good service.
I like looking the people I'm dealing with in the eye ;)
LarryLat
Oct 19th, 2005, 01:09 PM
too bad the site is not launched yet. Today Dell.ca got $1150 and NCIX.com got $1000 of my money.
mempf
Oct 19th, 2005, 01:14 PM
too bad the site is not launched yet. Today Dell.ca got $1150 and NCIX.com got $1000 of my money.
Yeah I just got a 7800GT from ncix that i was plaining to get from newegg
divx
Oct 19th, 2005, 01:28 PM
Yeah I just got a 7800GT from ncix that i was plaining to get from newegg
sure, blame every purchase on newegg, do you think you would have saved $$$ if purchased from newegg?
mempf
Oct 19th, 2005, 01:32 PM
sure, blame every purchase on newegg, do you think you would have saved $$$ if purchased from newegg?
Yes I do, probly around $100 but I could not wait any longer.
However my next ram upgrade will be from newegg.
divx
Oct 19th, 2005, 01:53 PM
lots rfder said that the pc parts have a small profit margin, like 3%, how could you possbily save that much?
gaore
Oct 19th, 2005, 02:06 PM
Great......
The Digital Dolphin
Oct 19th, 2005, 07:07 PM
lots rfder said that the pc parts have a small profit margin, like 3%, how could you possbily save that much?
Sometimes it's as much as 6% though ;)
Evil Techie
Oct 19th, 2005, 07:53 PM
Like I said, there aren't a lot of good retail stores to compete in service with. But I firmly believe that you are ALWAYS able to get better service from a brick and mortar location with good service, then an online store with good service.
I like looking the people I'm dealing with in the eye ;)
http://www.resellerratings.com/seller2121.html
all of the dissatisfied customers are all being looked after when the complaints are filed
newegg investigates and improves the service while solves the customer and compensates for the troubles they have had and work with them to deal with FEDE/UPS and manufacturers in certain unique cases
the professionalism of their customer service is definately better than most retail stores
you can ask the buyers on http://hardforum.com/ to see how their experiences are with newegg, the members there often purchase newegg products along with millions of others in US
Gary King
Oct 19th, 2005, 08:58 PM
I concur that Newegg does indeed have an excellent reputation. They probably have the best online retailer reputation that I know of, with the number of sales that they have, at least.
Now where is that Newegg.ca? :(
from a web developer's point of view:
they were planning on launching Canadian site on 10/10. Didn't happen to whatever reasons. Evil Techie then mentioned that "scheduled launch date is still well within this month".
No sane web-based company schedules a major site launch for a Friday or weekend when developers that already worked non-stop for past few weeks want to be home.
They did not do a quiet soft-launch where people would stumble across the website while they fix small problems. Since there's a NDA with RFD I suspect that they must be planning a major launch with big promotions.
Therefore I would put my bet on Monday October 24, 2005 as the official launch date of newegg.ca
Well, one more week until then. And if not, then another week until November. Once we reach November, then we'll know for sure that Newegg was ********ting and playing us all along ;)
Evil Techie
Oct 19th, 2005, 09:56 PM
I concur that Newegg does indeed have an excellent reputation. They probably have the best online retailer reputation that I know of, with the number of sales that they have, at least.
Now where is that Newegg.ca? :(
Well, one more week until then. And if not, then another week until November. Once we reach November, then we'll know for sure that Newegg was ********ting and playing us all along ;)
even if it doesnt happen when we reach nov, why would you say that newegg was "********ting and playing us all along"?
sometimes corporate plans change
there are also internal political battles all the time in a big company
please try to understand that there are things done and a lot of efforts have been put into this for the canadians
even if you cant see the results right away, it does NOT mean it's just all talk and nothing has been done
a LOT have been done just that newegg is not there yet due to some other reasons
webdoctors
Oct 19th, 2005, 09:58 PM
forget newegg already, CTY, CTY! :P
but i guess for ppl who not in GTA stuck wid NCIX rite now, newegg is some hope....
Riflem@n
Oct 19th, 2005, 10:08 PM
from a web developer's point of view:
they were planning on launching Canadian site on 10/10. Didn't happen to whatever reasons. Evil Techie then mentioned that "scheduled launch date is still well within this month".
No sane web-based company schedules a major site launch for a Friday or weekend when developers that already worked non-stop for past few weeks want to be home.
They did not do a quiet soft-launch where people would stumble across the website while they fix small problems. Since there's a NDA with RFD I suspect that they must be planning a major launch with big promotions.
Therefore I would put my bet on Monday October 24, 2005 as the official launch date of newegg.ca
Might as well put it on the 31th, to compete with NCIX's "Scary Spooky" Sale of the Week.
:lol:
Gary King
Oct 19th, 2005, 10:10 PM
even if it doesnt happen when we reach nov, why would you say that newegg was "********ting and playing us all along"?
sometimes corporate plans change
there are also internal political battles all the time in a big company
please try to understand that there are things done and a lot of efforts have been put into this for the canadians
even if you cant see the results right away, it does NOT mean it's just all talk and nothing has been done
a LOT have been done just that newegg is not there yet due to some other reasons
It's just like the feeling when something big becomes vaporware.
MrDisco
Oct 19th, 2005, 10:30 PM
1. increased competition (Not always a good thing!)
2. potentially better prices (not the main priority for them, as stated MULTIPLE times)
3. potentially good customer service (only as good as possible from an online store, which in my opinion can never compete with a good retail store.... not that there are too many GOOD service retail locations....)
4. potentially greater selection (good point).
I chose my point :cheesygri
man you wont give NewEgg an inch will ya? :|
1. increased competition is always a good thing for consumers. if you can point out a situation where its not i'll happily retract this statement.
2. better prices as a result of increased competition. (ergo not neccessarily from newegg but from other retailers as a result).
3. lets compare apples to apples here. if someone needed hand holding in their purchasing decision then buying online is not for them. if however they are looking at a hassle free experience (before during and after the sale) then NE may come out on tops here. I tried making a recent corporate purchase from NCIX and was totally let down by the experience.
as an aside i think the OP should never have started this thread until some dates were finalized. look at all the bashing he and the company (who has nothing to do with this thread) is taking. :(
divx
Oct 20th, 2005, 12:45 AM
Sometimes it's as much as 6% though ;)
or -100%, dvds, hint hint :lol:
gilboman
Oct 20th, 2005, 09:57 AM
man you wont give NewEgg an inch will ya? :|
1. increased competition is always a good thing for consumers. if you can point out a situation where its not i'll happily retract this statement.
2. better prices as a result of increased competition. (ergo not neccessarily from newegg but from other retailers as a result).
3. lets compare apples to apples here. if someone needed hand holding in their purchasing decision then buying online is not for them. if however they are looking at a hassle free experience (before during and after the sale) then NE may come out on tops here. I tried making a recent corporate purchase from NCIX and was totally let down by the experience.
as an aside i think the OP should never have started this thread until some dates were finalized. look at all the bashing he and the company (who has nothing to do with this thread) is taking. :(
you are really delousional with number 3. even if your mind is completely set on buying an item so you need no advice whatsoever, you goto a B&M store and pick up the item. you get it right away and no shipping. with newegg, the best you can hopefor is 4business days to arrive if you are lucky.
now the intangibles, you goto the store, the guy tells you that you can get XX product instead which is better but same price/cheaper, i sincerely doubt newegg's check out system can do that.
second, something wrong with your hardware, you bring back to store exchange. again same day. new egg, send back, wait, they send again you get it back. you are out one way shipping and wait atleast 8-10business days for exchange at best vs 1 day
so why would you bother with newegg when the store can provide better service and be a lot quicker and have lower prices?
this of course is assuming you find a good B&M store (which I have) and is 10x better than any online store. smth wrong with my PC, its out of warranty, they diagnose the problem for me for free and i dont even have to buy anything from them, I just walk out. can newegg do the same? you cant build the same relationship with a B&M store since there's no interpersonal relationship developed. you are only interacting with a database management system :lol: :lol:
divx
Oct 20th, 2005, 10:02 AM
i don't have much hope for newegg, it's just gona be another ncix and td, bottomline price already.
poppa
Oct 20th, 2005, 10:30 AM
i don't have much hope for newegg, it's just gona be another ncix and td, bottomline price already.
I agree. What I don't understand is how some people expect products to be priced the same here as they are down south. I'm just tired of all the complaining when they should be grateful most products do make it here (sometimes later).
MrDisco
Oct 20th, 2005, 11:32 AM
you are really delousional with number 3. even if your mind is completely set on buying an item so you need no advice whatsoever, you goto a B&M store and pick up the item. you get it right away and no shipping. with newegg, the best you can hopefor is 4business days to arrive if you are lucky.
wow talk about totally missing the point.
i am NOT saying buying online is better than buying from a b&m store. got it? good!
what i am saying is that for someone who wants to buy online (and judging by the popularity in ecommerce i'ld say there's a lot of happy online shoppers) having a company with the reputation of newegg entering the canadian market is a good thing.
and going back to my original point (which started all of this) i said that newegg brings with them (potentially) better customer service. Better in the sense relative to other online computer shops; i never said they would be the be all and end all. Customer service in this sense doesn't mean developing a relationship with a DB, but it could be in how they process customer inquiries/complaints, how they handle returns, how they package their items, the ease of use of their website, how they deal with rebates, etc etc.
The Digital Dolphin
Oct 20th, 2005, 12:18 PM
man you wont give NewEgg an inch will ya? :|
You misunderstand, I've already stated I may order from NewEgg, but I'm just sick and tired of this fanboy'ism. The drool from this thread is gumming up my monitor :evil:
1. increased competition is always a good thing for consumers. if you can point out a situation where its not i'll happily retract this statement.
Ok, look at DVD cases en masse. They used to be available in ranges from good quality to crappy quality. Now increased competition has forced even the high quality manufacturers to reduce their quality to sub par at best. Speaking as someone who deals with thousands of DVD cases daily, this is something I know only too well.
My next point is one you might be able to see a little easier. Maxell media Made in Taiwan. Why? because they needed to compete with brands offering lower prices that Futureshop and Bestbuy wanted to carry and push at those rediculous prices ($35/100pcs, $30/100pcs, $25/100pcs, $20/100pcs!!). It is because of too much competition that forced Maxell to use crappy media (of course it's also Ritek's fault it was THAT crappy...).
For my third point, watch this music video from Jibjab:
http://www.jibjab.com/Movies/BoxMart.aspx
To sum it up, increased competition = lower margins = cut corners = lower quality to consumer
3. lets compare apples to apples here. if someone needed hand holding in their purchasing decision then buying online is not for them. if however they are looking at a hassle free experience (before during and after the sale) then NE may come out on tops here. I tried making a recent corporate purchase from NCIX and was totally let down by the experience.
Gilboman did such a good job answering this one, I don't think I can add anything to it!
as an aside i think the OP should never have started this thread until some dates were finalized. look at all the bashing he and the company (who has nothing to do with this thread) is taking. :(
I'm starting to think you may be right on that one!
RSD
Oct 20th, 2005, 02:12 PM
OMG NOOOO just found out the newegg.com doesnt stock mini dvd jewel cases. those bastards. i hate blacnkmedia.ca :evil:
Evil Techie
Oct 20th, 2005, 04:02 PM
as an aside i think the OP should never have started this thread until some dates were finalized. look at all the bashing he and the company (who has nothing to do with this thread) is taking. :(
i would say you are partially right on that
i dont mind the bashing on me because i know that people who bash me and the company for this simply just doesnt know how the real world operates
date was finalized to oct 10 and thats why i posted about newegg doing cross border shipping in oct
but even if dates are finalized, the board members still have the power and some have the will to change whatever is good for the company and canadian consumers
so no matter how finalized the dates are, things can still change
might as well not post anything at all and leave everyone in the dark but my original intent was to ask and see if people are interested and what their thoughts are and the thread is not meant as a media for me to do a press release or something
i dont even work for newegg so whoever took this the wrong way, please try to understand where i am coming from
well now i am having doubts in my decision of mentioning anything to this community that i love so much
might as well lock this thread up
The Digital Dolphin
Oct 20th, 2005, 04:14 PM
well now i am having doubts in my decision of mentioning anything to this community that i love so much
might as well lock this thread up
Don't be too hard on yourself.... your heart was in the right place, you just underestimated the fanboys ;)
BoxsterS
Oct 20th, 2005, 06:47 PM
i would say you are partially right on that
i dont mind the bashing on me because i know that people who bash me and the company for this simply just doesnt know how the real world operates
date was finalized to oct 10 and thats why i posted about newegg doing cross border shipping in oct
but even if dates are finalized, the board members still have the power and some have the will to change whatever is good for the company and canadian consumers
so no matter how finalized the dates are, things can still change
might as well not post anything at all and leave everyone in the dark but my original intent was to ask and see if people are interested and what their thoughts are and the thread is not meant as a media for me to do a press release or something
i dont even work for newegg so whoever took this the wrong way, please try to understand where i am coming from
well now i am having doubts in my decision of mentioning anything to this community that i love so much
might as well lock this thread up
I guess now would be a bad time to announce the Chief Value Canada opening day?
Mgz
Oct 21st, 2005, 05:35 PM
you are really delousional with number 3. even if your mind is completely set on buying an item so you need no advice whatsoever, you goto a B&M store and pick up the item. you get it right away and no shipping. with newegg, the best you can hopefor is 4business days to arrive if you are lucky.
now the intangibles, you goto the store, the guy tells you that you can get XX product instead which is better but same price/cheaper, i sincerely doubt newegg's check out system can do that.
second, something wrong with your hardware, you bring back to store exchange. again same day. new egg, send back, wait, they send again you get it back. you are out one way shipping and wait atleast 8-10business days for exchange at best vs 1 day
so why would you bother with newegg when the store can provide better service and be a lot quicker and have lower prices?
this of course is assuming you find a good B&M store (which I have) and is 10x better than any online store. smth wrong with my PC, its out of warranty, they diagnose the problem for me for free and i dont even have to buy anything from them, I just walk out. can newegg do the same? you cant build the same relationship with a B&M store since there's no interpersonal relationship developed. you are only interacting with a database management system :lol: :lol:
Richmond Hill, hmmmm, that is because u're from Ontario, u have million of local store to play with.... unlike me stuck at the ****** city of Edmonton...there is NO CHOICE to buy stuff that I need from the local store at all. DEAD City -_-
about newegg. I bought stuff from them though an American twice and all the stuff after 2 years are still running so I am glad that they finally move to Canada. I know that quality take TIME so they can take whatever amount they need to get it done, and done it right. RUSH = fcuked up, simple at that.
Thank you Evil Technie for bringing us this good news.
Evil Techie
Oct 21st, 2005, 06:10 PM
Richmond Hill, hmmmm, that is because u're from Ontario, u have million of local store to play with.... unlike me stuck at the ****** city of Edmonton...there is NO CHOICE to buy stuff that I need from the local store at all. DEAD City -_-
about newegg. I bought stuff from them though an American twice and all the stuff after 2 years are still running so I am glad that they finally move to Canada. I know that quality take TIME so they can take whatever amount they need to get it done, and done it right. RUSH = fcuked up, simple at that.
Thank you Evil Technie for bringing us this good news.
Thank you for your understanding and appreciation
The Digital Dolphin
Oct 21st, 2005, 07:55 PM
Richmond Hill, hmmmm, that is because u're from Ontario, u have million of local store to play with.... unlike me stuck at the ****** city of Edmonton...there is NO CHOICE to buy stuff that I need from the local store at all. DEAD City -_-
about newegg. I bought stuff from them though an American twice and all the stuff after 2 years are still running so I am glad that they finally move to Canada. I know that quality take TIME so they can take whatever amount they need to get it done, and done it right. RUSH = fcuked up, simple at that.
Thank you Evil Technie for bringing us this good news.
What's wrong with BCom and Memory Express? (is there a problem, obviously I've never used them, but I've heard good things from Memory Express at least).
Wasgo
Oct 22nd, 2005, 02:04 PM
I know I'm looking forward to Newegg coming because none of my local stores in Victoria are even willing to order the part I want and only one place in Vancouver will, but it'll cost way more.
The Digital Dolphin
Oct 23rd, 2005, 01:32 AM
I know I'm looking forward to Newegg coming because none of my local stores in Victoria are even willing to order the part I want and only one place in Vancouver will, but it'll cost way more.
What are you looking for that is so hard to get??
mempf
Oct 23rd, 2005, 02:17 AM
Hey sry Techie I was just overly excited about newegg coming that I wanted to know all the info about when they are coming.
Thanks for the info so far and keep us updated when you can.
Thanks
hagbard
Oct 23rd, 2005, 01:13 PM
I know I'm looking forward to Newegg coming because none of my local stores in Victoria are even willing to order the part I want and only one place in Vancouver will, but it'll cost way more.
Unless you want the same thing that every other computer store in town sells, you have to order online. Don't know why no one sells good stuff here.
_pOtEnZa_
Oct 23rd, 2005, 02:14 PM
so is october still the date, cuz its sure coming to an end soon :P
ecet
Oct 23rd, 2005, 02:54 PM
i love newegg
The_Duke_Of_Eli
Oct 23rd, 2005, 02:56 PM
YES! Low prices, good customer service, good quality, how can you lose?
Reggin
Oct 23rd, 2005, 05:27 PM
When Will It Be Here ?!?!??
crasher
Oct 23rd, 2005, 05:44 PM
NewEgg, Good
UPS :confused:
If they ship from states with UPS definetely NO
JohnB
Oct 23rd, 2005, 11:01 PM
Is there a new rough estimated date ?
Before Christmas ? Or has it been put on hold - just wondering as Im looking forward to buying some more computer stuff and I enjoy the lay-out, wide selection, user comments, and prices of the US store.
Thanks
Gdog
Oct 24th, 2005, 03:12 AM
Are they even coming to Canada? What's taking them so long?
Dr.Evil
Oct 24th, 2005, 04:25 AM
In a board meeting, it was finalized that newegg won't be coming to Canada this year. so for anyone looking to buy goods from newegg, forget about it, they have no clear date when and if they will arrive in Canada. For now looks like ncix or other Canadian retailers.
ahh well.
mempf
Oct 24th, 2005, 04:42 AM
In a board meeting, it was finalized that newegg won't be coming to Canada this year. so for anyone looking to buy goods from newegg, forget about it, they have no clear date when and if they will arrive in Canada. For now looks like ncix or other Canadian retailers.
ahh well.
And just who are you to say this?
Spare-Flair
Oct 24th, 2005, 04:59 AM
What's wrong with BCom and Memory Express? (is there a problem, obviously I've never used them, but I've heard good things from Memory Express at least).
No selection. They have no variety, limited stocks, little to no competition.
Spare-Flair
Oct 24th, 2005, 09:02 AM
And just who are you to say this?
The guy who started this thread.
Sun-Tzu
Oct 24th, 2005, 10:27 AM
Sure, why not?
Competition is always good. The more the competition, the cheaper things get. We all win.
:cheesygri
Dealz-4-U
Oct 24th, 2005, 10:37 AM
The guy who started this thread.
Actually no.
Compare Dr. Evil to Evil Techie, there is a difference. :lol:
Evil Techie
Oct 24th, 2005, 11:46 AM
he is just toying with you all
should lock Dr. Evil out of this thread
The Digital Dolphin
Oct 24th, 2005, 02:59 PM
Sure, why not?
Competition is always good. The more the competition, the cheaper things get. We all win.
:cheesygri
See my post about 3 pages up, about why competition is *NOT* always good... unless you like crappy corner-cut-made products with no quality.
Dr.Evil
Oct 24th, 2005, 07:26 PM
he is just toying with you all
should lock Dr. Evil out of this thread
I am actually posting exactly what I have heard from my sources, you have already posted incorrect information and you are already back tracking and pointing fingers at others. I am just letting others know the truth, newegg wont be coming to Canada this year, simple as that, why u want to keep that back from other users other then ur personal benefit is for you to gain with, not anyone else.
If users want to buy lot of computer parts from U.S rather then Canada, they can always buy from monarchcomputer.
Last but least, provide us with evidence that I am not telling the truth otherwise shutup, you have been already proved wrong once, rather then taking responsibility, u have pointed the finger at others.
grow up.
RW99
Oct 24th, 2005, 08:58 PM
Last but least, provide us with evidence that I am not telling the truth otherwise shutup, you have been already proved wrong once, rather then taking responsibility, u have pointed the finger at others.
grow up.
wow.
mempf
Oct 25th, 2005, 12:08 AM
I am actually posting exactly what I have heard from my sources, you have already posted incorrect information and you are already back tracking and pointing fingers at others. I am just letting others know the truth, newegg wont be coming to Canada this year, simple as that, why u want to keep that back from other users other then ur personal benefit is for you to gain with, not anyone else.
If users want to buy lot of computer parts from U.S rather then Canada, they can always buy from monarchcomputer.
Last but least, provide us with evidence that I am not telling the truth otherwise shutup, you have been already proved wrong once, rather then taking responsibility, u have pointed the finger at others.
grow up.
Wow I don't really know aht to say to this.
Newegg IS coming to canada soon I got a email back from their customer support.
It shoulden't be long now till Evil Techie can give us some more info I bet.
1V4N
Oct 25th, 2005, 12:26 AM
Wow I don't really know aht to say to this.
Newegg IS coming to canada soon I got a email back from their customer support.
It shoulden't be long now till Evil Techie can give us some more info I bet.
Wow -- Why the heck are you so excited about NewEgg?
Plus you are acting as if E.T.'s every word were from the word of "the chosen one", whatever he says must be true?
At this point all I've been hearing since the very 1st post from E.T. has been that N.E. is coming and how great they are.
Seems he loves building up the hopes of so many RFD, only to let them down, or justify the delays will still ultimately be worth the wait...LOL
It's time to just lock this thread until N.E. actually starts catering to the Canadian market, instead of continually having the fan boys feed the frenzy to the masses of how great N.E. is....as though they are the best thing since sliced bread....:cheesygri
Nothing personal against E.T., but it's time to just stop posting anything related to N.E. until there is concrete tangible proof that Canadians can start purchasing online from N.E.
Let this dog sleep.
Only time will tell just if, and when (if at all) N.E. will compete for everyone else's hard-earned cash.
Again, just my $0.02
Sun-Tzu
Oct 25th, 2005, 11:32 AM
See my post about 3 pages up, about why competition is *NOT* always good... unless you like crappy corner-cut-made products with no quality.
I think you are getting competition mixed up with value. Without competition a company could charge just about anything knowing that if you want the product you will shell out.
Buying an Apple computer for example, is still more expensive than most PCs. But you do get great service and a box that's ready to go out of the box. It's all about the value add.
The Digital Dolphin
Oct 25th, 2005, 01:07 PM
I think you are getting competition mixed up with value. Without competition a company could charge just about anything knowing that if you want the product you will shell out.
No, I'm not mixing it up... I simply stated that competition is not always good, which is true. Too much competition saturates the market, which creates a demand for cut corners and decreased overall quality. Also, "big box" stores are created, who use their sway over the market to create a crushing hold on certain suppliers (under the threat of dropping their entire line if not given what they want). I know for a fact that Futureshop, Bestbuy, ESPECIALLY Walmart, and even our good friends at NewEgg employ these tactics. Surprisingly, I've never heard a complaint from anyone about Amazon though (I mean from their suppliers).
Buying an Apple computer for example, is still more expensive than most PCs. But you do get great service and a box that's ready to go out of the box. It's all about the value add.
Apples are a completely different market then PCs. They are aimed at schools, graphic designers, and people who are too scared of using a PC.
Gary King
Oct 26th, 2005, 05:00 PM
No, I'm not mixing it up... I simply stated that competition is not always good, which is true. Too much competition saturates the market, which creates a demand for cut corners and decreased overall quality. Also, "big box" stores are created, who use their sway over the market to create a crushing hold on certain suppliers (under the threat of dropping their entire line if not given what they want). I know for a fact that Futureshop, Bestbuy, ESPECIALLY Walmart, and even our good friends at NewEgg employ these tactics. Surprisingly, I've never heard a complaint from anyone about Amazon though (I mean from their suppliers).
Apples are a completely different market then PCs. They are aimed at schools, graphic designers, and people who are too scared of using a PC.
I don't think you should have made that comment about Apple products. You don't want to risk getting the Mac fanboyism started :). And actually, they aren't called 'Apples', since that is typically a fruit I eat. I will assume that you are talking about Macs, though.
Just FYI, you can be more than those things that you suggested to use a Mac. I have a Mac Mini running, and with my Windows, using a KVM switch.
Jacka
Oct 26th, 2005, 06:05 PM
All these talk and rant about Newegg, when will Newegg really be available to Canadian.
DJ Trance AZ
Oct 26th, 2005, 08:21 PM
All these talk and rant about Newegg, when will Newegg really be available to Canadian.
Exactly!
Ryan
Oct 26th, 2005, 09:40 PM
Just to clarify, Evil Techie has been right about everything he's said, when he's said it, it's just that NE is behind sched...
divx
Oct 27th, 2005, 09:54 AM
I don't think you should have made that comment about Apple products. You don't want to risk getting the Mac fanboyism started :). And actually, they aren't called 'Apples', since that is typically a fruit I eat. I will assume that you are talking about Macs, though.
Just FYI, you can be more than those things that you suggested to use a Mac. I have a Mac Mini running, and with my Windows, using a KVM switch.
oh, what do you do frenquently on the mac that can't be done on the pc?
Gary King
Oct 27th, 2005, 11:10 PM
oh, what do you do frenquently on the mac that can't be done on the pc?
It's not WHAT something can and can't do - it's how WELL it does it. And the Mac does practically everything better than Windows, except for gaming, which isn't a big deal for me.
Gary King
Oct 28th, 2005, 04:16 PM
We can pretty much forget about Newegg.ca now :) October is coming to an end :)
Sgt_Strider
Oct 28th, 2005, 06:52 PM
We can pretty much forget about Newegg.ca now :) October is coming to an end :)
Seriously when will you shut-up? You're becoming extremely annoying here. If you're not happy then take your money elsewhere, sigh :rollleyes:.
Spare-Flair
Oct 28th, 2005, 07:36 PM
Actually no.
Compare Dr. Evil to Evil Techie, there is a difference. :lol:
All these Evil people are confusing me! Just get me my Newegg selection and prices!
Evil Techie
Oct 30th, 2005, 01:11 AM
well doesnt look like newegg will be expanding as fast as they wanted to anymore
i am sincerely sorry for causing any hope and probably make most of you upset
my dad is quitting his job as CEO and lots of changes are happening in the company
i will not be able to provide you all anymore accurate information or anything at all
but newegg is still a good place to buy from
just not a good place to work at
once again, i am sorry
callous
Oct 30th, 2005, 01:16 AM
So are plans for expansion into Canada put on hold for the foreseeable future based on information that you know of?
And I did appreciate the information you gave so far - even if most of the people in here didnt.
Evil Techie
Oct 30th, 2005, 01:28 AM
So are plans for expansion into Canada put on hold for the foreseeable future based on information that you know of?
And I did appreciate the information you gave so far - even if most of the people in here didnt.
well looks like it
no one knows what will happen from now on
Txiasaeia
Oct 30th, 2005, 01:30 AM
well doesnt look like newegg will be expanding as fast as they wanted to anymore
i am sincerely sorry for causing any hope and probably make most of you upset...
Who's upset? Whether or not 'egg comes to Canada, I'll still shop at NCIX.
Evil Techie
Oct 30th, 2005, 01:34 AM
Who's upset? Whether or not 'egg comes to Canada, I'll still shop at NCIX.
ill still shop @ NCIX i guess
hope they have improved their customer service since i last dealt with them though
RW99
Oct 30th, 2005, 01:46 AM
Who's upset? Whether or not 'egg comes to Canada, I'll still shop at NCIX.
There's a few people posting in this thead busting up Evil about posting the thread, claiming he had motives and such and giving a date that has since passed.
Oh well, one can only hope the shakeup doesn't put their Canadian plans on the backburner for too long.
1V4N
Oct 30th, 2005, 01:49 AM
Wow....so all this talk about New Egg coming to Canada, and the hype over everything, and now -- nothing?
Well I'm sorry to hear your dad is not going to be involved with N.E. as you now mention.
Good luck to you and your father in your future endeavours, who knows, maybe start up a company called "Better Eggs Canada" :cheesygri
Grab the Canadian market, before N.E. gets a chance to then!
Sgt_Strider
Oct 30th, 2005, 01:54 AM
There's a few people posting in this thead busting up Evil about posting the thread, claiming he had motives and such and giving a date that has since passed.
Oh well, one can only hope the shakeup doesn't put their Canadian plans on the backburner for too long.
Those posters are acting like kids. If newegg doesn't come to Canada on time or if it didn't meet their expectations, then take their money elsewhere. It's that simple. Evil_Techie shouldn't be criticized like this and the whiners can say whatever they want, but it doesn't change the fact that they're acting immature. Another thing is that it's very annoying just reading it in what is suppose to be a information base thread.
Evil Techie
Oct 30th, 2005, 01:33 AM
i do feel sad that my dad's career has to end in a way like this with his health deteriorating and finding lumps on his intestine and other major health problems
i dont think my family will open any business
my family has passion and isnt meant to run any business with the "cold" and "mean" type of business personality that newegg demands of him
at least he is big enough of a man to walk away from this and try to live happily
most importantly, ive realised that without health, nothing else matters
im also sorry that ive lead to some dissapointments here on RFD
1V4N
Oct 30th, 2005, 12:17 PM
My respects to you and your family.
It's a hard thing to walk away from anything successful, especially when you are at the top of the game.
But at least your dad had the insight and realized that it comes down to happiness and health, plus you can only help a company make so much money before you feel that you've given up everything and gained nothing back (not that your father should feel that way, however alot of jobs in the PC market now make one feel that way).
Good luck to you and your family. Its best to leave while at the top.
i do feel sad that my dad's career has to end in a way like this with his health deteriorating and finding lumps on his intestine and other major health problems
i dont think my family will open any business
my family has passion and isnt meant to run any business with the "cold" and "mean" type of business personality that newegg demands of him
at least he is big enough of a man to walk away from this and try to live happily
most importantly, ive realised that without health, nothing else matters
im also sorry that ive lead to some dissapointments here on RFD
Evil Techie
Oct 30th, 2005, 01:11 PM
My respects to you and your family.
It's a hard thing to walk away from anything successful, especially when you are at the top of the game.
But at least your dad had the insight and realized that it comes down to happiness and health, plus you can only help a company make so much money before you feel that you've given up everything and gained nothing back (not that your father should feel that way, however alot of jobs in the PC market now make one feel that way).
Good luck to you and your family. Its best to leave while at the top.
thank you
actually he has been thru so many companies such as D-Link, microtek, NEC... etc that he feels that way almost everytime
lol
basically, if u want to be successful, u have to be a mean ass
look at how bill gates is doing, he didnt get up there by being nice
i think maybe this thread should be locked up for now until some official press release comes from newegg
Reggin
Oct 30th, 2005, 01:36 PM
I contacted NewEgg - Their CEO has not 'stepped down' and he has two daughters - EVIL TECHIE IS A LIAR. They also never had plans to come to Canada.
turanuk
Oct 30th, 2005, 01:43 PM
I contacted NewEgg - Their CEO has not 'stepped down' and he has two daughters - EVIL TECHIE IS A LIAR. They also never had plans to come to Canada.
http://www.thealarmclock.com/mt/archives/2005/06/newegg_profile.html
CEO Simon Hsieh.
Evil Techie
Oct 30th, 2005, 01:54 PM
I contacted NewEgg - Their CEO has not 'stepped down' and he has two daughters - EVIL TECHIE IS A LIAR. They also never had plans to come to Canada.
one problem with internet is i find lots of liars making up stories and calling others liars
i would love to see what sort of IP Ryan gets out of your posts and if it matches Dr. Evils or not
Ryan
Oct 30th, 2005, 02:35 PM
Anyway, ET was telling the truth about NewEgg coming to Canada, but things are in flux now.
Because some of you can't play nice, this thread is closed.
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