WalMart-16"HP Laptop,2.0Ghz AMD DC,3Gb RAM,250HDD,HDMI,Nvidia 8200M,Webcam-$599

[ovexi]

Just picked up one last night from Milton WalMart Supercentre. Price rolled back to $599 from $678. It's a new model from HP: G60-249CA (http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01647073&cc=ca&dlc=en&lc=en&jumpid=reg_R1002_CAEN)
I think the deal is at least warm for people looking for an HDMI laptop with an NVIDIA video card to play 1080p HD movies on an TV in addition to regular computer use.

[bokep]

Do the 8x00 cards still have overheating issues?

[theshowman]

Correction: This is not a dedicated video card - it is indeed shared - for those whom this matters to.

[ovexi]

Correction: This is not a dedicated video card - it is indeed shared - for those whom this matters to.
You're right. Still better than Intel GMA

[chrisanthony14]

honestly for the specs thats a really good price..cheaper then fs or bb

[zyn123]

You're right. Still better than Intel GMA
I do not know if this video card is better than GMA X4500 HD?
:confused:

[zoolander]

Good price if the specs are the same as HP's. Try to configure this at Dell for a Studio 15 (you lose an inch) and it's $200 more. If I was in the market, I would buy this as a decent HTPC budget laptop.
One of the drawbacks of HDMIing any laptop to a flatpanel is the fan noise. If you already have a decent laptop, better to get the WDTV for around $120.
I would definitely recommend this Walmart HP to a friend. If you could upgrade to a 9cell and 802.11n WLAN, it would even be hotter.

[ukhan]

Hmm but is this deal advertised at Wal-Mart in order to PM it?

[BlueMax]

I do not know if this video card is better than GMA X4500 HD?
:confused:

Yes - but not by leaps and bounds. It's "okay".

Heck, I'm tempted to sell off my complete desktop and get one!

[ovexi]

Hmm but is this deal advertised at Wal-Mart in order to PM it?
It's on the front page of their last flyer but there is no model number available

[airski]

I purchased this laptop on sale from FS a couple months ago for $619 - with less ram (2gb) and less hdd (160gb)... It's an excellent laptop - I especially like the 16" widescreen and full keyboard (including num keys).

http://walmart.ca/wps-portal/storelocator/Canada-Electronic.jsp?selection=listingDetails&tabId=1&singledept=null&lang=&assetId=41764&imageId=58294&suggestedItem=&priceType=1&page=null&departmentId=201&categoryId=836&tabId=1

[chrisanthony14]

Its on sale for the whole week correct?..i got to demo it at the local walmart..thanks op

[ZIgot]

The specs look good for that price.
Only thing I worry is the prematurity of the 8200M chipset.
Even worse if it's onboard. You can't replace / upgrade it if it has a problem.

[bender2k]

How does this compare to a studio 15 from dell for 100$ more?

HP 599$:

1.9GHz AMD Athlon™ X2 QL-62 Dual-Core Processor
250GB (5400RPM) SATA
HP Imprint finish & HP Webcam with integrated microphone
Built in wireless and wired networking 802.11b/g WLAN, integrated 10/100BASE-T Ethernet; high speed 56k modem
3 USB 2.0 ports, 1 headphone out, 1 microphone-in, 1 HDMI, 1 VGA port, 1 RJ-11 modem and 1 RJ -45 LAN

Dell Inspiron 15 699$:

Intel® Core™ 2 Duo T6400 (2.00GHz/800Mhz FSB/2MB cache)
Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium Edition SP1
4GB Shared Dual Channel DDR2 at 800MHz
320GB SATA Hard Drive (5400RPM)
Jet Black
8X CD / DVD Burner (Dual Layer DVD+/-R Drive)
Intel Graphics Media Accelerator X4500HD
1 Year Limited Warranty w/1 Year Return To Depot Service
No HDMI though

[neltron3030]

So this looks like a better buy than any of the Dells?

[leafsrule99]

How does this compare to a studio 15 from dell for 100$ more?

HP 599$:

1.9GHz AMD Athlon™ X2 QL-62 Dual-Core Processor
250GB (5400RPM) SATA
HP Imprint finish & HP Webcam with integrated microphone
Built in wireless and wired networking 802.11b/g WLAN, integrated 10/100BASE-T Ethernet; high speed 56k modem
3 USB 2.0 ports, 1 headphone out, 1 microphone-in, 1 HDMI, 1 VGA port, 1 RJ-11 modem and 1 RJ -45 LAN

Dell Studio 15 699$:

Intel® Core™ 2 Duo T6400 (2.00GHz/800Mhz FSB/2MB cache)
Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium Edition SP1
4GB Shared Dual Channel DDR2 at 800MHz
320GB SATA Hard Drive (5400RPM)
Jet Black
8X CD / DVD Burner (Dual Layer DVD+/-R Drive)
Intel Graphics Media Accelerator X4500HD
1 Year Limited Warranty w/1 Year Return To Depot Service
No HDMI though

Actually studios do have HDMI

[bender2k]

Actually studios do have HDMI

sorry it was an Inspiron 15

[zulu888]

Actually studios do have HDMI

how much is the studio?

[wheeldeals]

Can it display 1080p hdmi out to a LCD TV? How does this CPU compares to Intel C2D?

[ovexi]

How does this compare to a studio 15 from dell for 100$ more?

HP 599$:

1.9GHz AMD Athlon™ X2 QL-62 Dual-Core Processor
250GB (5400RPM) SATA
HP Imprint finish & HP Webcam with integrated microphone
Built in wireless and wired networking 802.11b/g WLAN, integrated 10/100BASE-T Ethernet; high speed 56k modem
3 USB 2.0 ports, 1 headphone out, 1 microphone-in, 1 HDMI, 1 VGA port, 1 RJ-11 modem and 1 RJ -45 LAN

Dell Inspiron 15 699$:

Intel® Core™ 2 Duo T6400 (2.00GHz/800Mhz FSB/2MB cache)
Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium Edition SP1
4GB Shared Dual Channel DDR2 at 800MHz
320GB SATA Hard Drive (5400RPM)
Jet Black
8X CD / DVD Burner (Dual Layer DVD+/-R Drive)
Intel Graphics Media Accelerator X4500HD
1 Year Limited Warranty w/1 Year Return To Depot Service
No HDMI though
Walmart cpu cpecs are wrong. I got this laptop and it comes with 2.00 GHz AMD Athlon X2 QL-62 Dual-Core Processor

[ovexi]

Can it display 1080p hdmi out to a LCD TV? How does this CPU compares to Intel C2D?
I was able to play 1080p mkv files with no problems on Sharp Aquos thru HDMI

[bender2k]

I was able to play 1080p mkv files with no problems on Sharp Aquos thru HDMI

Can you give us a general review of the laptop since it seems you have it? Thanks!

[mzd369]

I was able to play 1080p mkv files with no problems on Sharp Aquos thru HDMI

How about the AUDIO quality?

[ovexi]

How about the AUDIO quality?
very good I would say

[Taft]

Hot price!

Actually the best laptop deal I can recall in some time, there is nothing this laptop is really lacking. I prefer AMD-based laptops because the integrated graphics will NOT be from Intel and the CPU performance is very close.

Nice one OP!

[lane99]

i just bought a very similar laptop from Staples.ca for $564 (after using Staples coupons).

but i think i will return it. some people are saying the Nvidia cards run too hot, and are prone to high rates of failure.

and, even if it doesn't fail, the preventive measures they take is to keep the laptop fan running continuously to keep things cooler. which, i suppose will reduce the lifespan of the fan, as well as reduce the time you can run the computer on battery).

but i'm just telling you what i heard. i'm no expert of computer components.

p.s. Staples did not mention this computer had Nvidia card on the specs they showed on the webpage. which i find curious. I never realized Nvidia was in the computer until it was delivered. i wouldn't have bought it in the first place if i knew it had an Nvidia component.

[tyfriend]

Can anyone specify the return/warranty policy on this laptop?

[BlueMax]

You guys - this is NOT an nVidia "card" like the 8400/8600 modules are. This is an integrated graphics system in the north/southbridge. Nothing to fear with this one!

It's the 8400/8600's that had trouble - 8600's especially.

[chrisanthony14]

hmm wierd the walmart at stc doesnt have it advertised at all...

[chrisanthony14]

nvidea chipset, with a AMD processer. I never seen that before..atleast on a desktop system right?

[bender2k]

I got one on Monday for 634$ tax in, its a great laptop. I downgraded it to XP right away and its running real nicely.

[nav888]

I got one on Monday for 634$ tax in, its a great laptop. I downgraded it to XP right away and its running real nicely.

Is it hard to get all the XP drivers for this model?

[ethanoreo]

The Ql-62 is #68 on the list of processor benchmarking. T3400 is 45.

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Processors-Benchmarklist.2436.0.html

[ovexi]

I got one on Monday for 634$ tax in, its a great laptop. I downgraded it to XP right away and its running real nicely.
how did you get it for that price? it's $599+tax in walmart flyer

[bender2k]

how did you get it for that price? it's $599+tax in walmart flyer

Alberta taxes :D

[bender2k]

Is it hard to get all the XP drivers for this model?

Took a bunch of googling to find a step by step guide, but this one helped a lot:

http://www.laptops-drivers.com/hp-laptop/complete-windows-xp-driver-fivers.com/hp-laptop/complete-windows-xp-driver-for-hp-pavilion-g60-120us.html

That step by step is pretty much all I did, except this one had a different graphic card. But both the graphic card and the chipset drivers were on the nvidia website. All you need is a bootable XP CD with either SP2 or SP3.

And also, if you plan to downgrade, you're gonna have to burn all the drivers onto a cd. When you first install XP, the USB port drivers and wireless aren't installed and the only external data you can use are cd's and dvd's.

[Dirty Sanchez]

The Ql-62 is #68 on the list of processor benchmarking. T3400 is 45.

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Processors-Benchmarklist.2436.0.html

99% wont actually notice any difference, its so small..

[nav888]

Took a bunch of googling to find a step by step guide, but this one helped a lot:

http://www.laptops-drivers.com/hp-laptop/complete-windows-xp-driver-fivers.com/hp-laptop/complete-windows-xp-driver-for-hp-pavilion-g60-120us.html

That step by step is pretty much all I did, except this one had a different graphic card. But both the graphic card and the chipset drivers were on the nvidia website. All you need is a bootable XP CD with either SP2 or SP3.

And also, if you plan to downgrade, you're gonna have to burn all the drivers onto a cd. When you first install XP, the USB port drivers and wireless aren't installed and the only external data you can use are cd's and dvd's.

Thanks!

That's an excellent guide!

[WalnutCrunch]

How's the cooling on this laptop? I have an HP laptop with the same QL-62 chip (although with ATI gfx) and the fan works really hard and runs loud. I was comparing it to a Dell with an Intel T5400 (I think) and the Intel runs much cooler. The AMD is also a slower processor compared to the Intels.

That said, my HP with the AMD QL-62 can decode 1080p flawlessly at about 80-90% CPU usage.

[BlueMax]

How's the cooling on this laptop? I have an HP laptop with the same QL-62 chip (although with ATI gfx) and the fan works really hard and runs loud. I was comparing it to a Dell with an Intel T5400 (I think) and the Intel runs much cooler. The AMD is also a slower processor compared to the Intels.

That said, my HP with the AMD QL-62 can decode 1080p flawlessly at about 80-90% CPU usage.

This one won't work the CPU so hard since the GPU takes a lot of the load off!

[hello99]

Are there any in the GTA?

Specifically Mississauga?

Thanks.

[jt4572]

I had two separate stores (Miss, Brmptn) do an inventory check and there are none to be found according to their computer inventory. The deal appears to be dead. However, I am not surprised as one guy said his store only recieved about 4 of these units. :mad:

[ovexi]

I had two separate stores (Miss, Brmptn) do an inventory check and there are none to be found according to their computer inventory. The deal appears to be dead. However, I am not surprised as one guy said his store only recieved about 4 of these units. :mad:

There were 5 left in Milton when I bought mine Sunday night

[kalachakraa]

Walmart cpu cpecs are wrong. I got this laptop and it comes with 2.00 GHz AMD Athlon X2 QL-62 Dual-Core Processor

You are right about the processor specs - Walmart's numbers are wrong. By the way I drove from Toronto to Milton to buy the last one yesterday afternoon.

I'm not sure if it was worth it - Vista is such junk that I can hardly wait to get rid of it, and I don't want to make my mind up about it until then. Nonetheless the only thing I've done is replace Norton Antivirus with Avira, and download Firefox and VLC player. Today eventlog is showing 3 system errors, 3 application errors and 4 security audit failures ON STARTUP. On an essentially virgin Vista install. (One of the errors is Norton antivirus trying to start, even though the very first thing I did was a complete uninstall of Norton.) It's a bit like driving a new car home from the dealership and having to get out at every intersection to pick up the pieces that have fallen off. Goodbye Vista, hello dual boot XP and Windows 7.

Finally, I haven't setup the video but out of the box playing full screen flash is very, very slow and jumpy - unwatchable really. I'm hoping I can tweak it and I'd appreciate any hints. I'd say if you want a HD media player you should spend more money, except that's not a guarantee of good performance either.

[jt4572]

I ended up calling several stores directly as their computer inventory system seems to be off. I just picked up the last one from Etobicoke (although they told me they had two of them on the phone) but also confirmed Whitby has 2 new in the box.

[zoolander]

Good choice going with AVIRA, #1 on AVcomparatives, there is also a google on how to get rid of the advert popup.
Have you tried this instead of VLC?
http://www.free-codecs.com/download/K_lite_codec_pack.htm
No 720p or 1080p stuttering on one of my old Core Duo 1.86GHz, 4GB RAM (3.317 usable).

[hello99]

You are right about the processor specs - Walmart's numbers are wrong. By the way I drove from Toronto to Milton to buy the last one yesterday afternoon.

I'm not sure if it was worth it - Vista is such junk that I can hardly wait to get rid of it, and I don't want to make my mind up about it until then. Nonetheless the only thing I've done is replace Norton Antivirus with Avira, and download Firefox and VLC player. Today eventlog is showing 3 system errors, 3 application errors and 4 security audit failures ON STARTUP. On an essentially virgin Vista install. (One of the errors is Norton antivirus trying to start, even though the very first thing I did was a complete uninstall of Norton.) It's a bit like driving a new car home from the dealership and having to get out at every intersection to pick up the pieces that have fallen off. Goodbye Vista, hello dual boot XP and Windows 7.

Finally, I haven't setup the video but out of the box playing full screen flash is very, very slow and jumpy - unwatchable really. I'm hoping I can tweak it and I'd appreciate any hints. I'd say if you want a HD media player you should spend more money, except that's not a guarantee of good performance either.

Funny...I called this afternoon and the lady said they had one sealed one left and I just picked it up a couple of hours ago from the Milton store...I haven't opened it yet...is anyone else having these problems with Vista? Is downgrading to XP free?

[ovexi]

Finally, I haven't setup the video but out of the box playing full screen flash is very, very slow and jumpy - unwatchable really. I'm hoping I can tweak it and I'd appreciate any hints. I'd say if you want a HD media player you should spend more money, except that's not a guarantee of good performance either.
I use zoom player to watch my 1080p mkv movies with no problem whatsoever. Everything plays smooth and cpu load is 60 to 80% depending on the movie. I use CoreAVC to decode the video which is far superior to ffdshow.

[shan]

Has anyone noticed a problem with the enter key? I find it to be way off. I keep missing it like it's positioned too far to the right, or it's not big enough.

Another issue for me is that it gets too hot on the lap compared to my thinkpad and aspire one.

[dragonz1]

Picked one of these up tonight. For anyone close, the Brockville store still has 5 in stock

[fooit]

How far can you open the screen? Does it go upto 180 degrees just like ThinkPads?

[hello99]

Just looked at the dell site and their vostro 1510 looks like a good configuration for $579, I added a 6 cell battery to make it $629. What does everyone think? The processor looks better?

Specs:

Intel® Core™ 2 Duo T5670 (1.8GHz, 2MB L2 Cache, 800MHz FSB)
Genuine Windows Vista® Home Basic, Service Pack 1
No Productivity Software
15.4 inch Widescreen WXGA LCD Anti-Glare Display
No Webcam, No Digital Camera Microphone Option
3GB Shared Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 667MHz, 2 DIMM
160G 5400RPM SATA Hard Drive
Intel® Integrated Graphics Media Accelerator X3100
8X DVD+/-RW with double-layer DVD+/-R write capability, with Roxio Creator
Dell Wireless 1395 802.11g Wi-Fi Internal Card
6-cell Lithium Ion Primary Battery

Essentials
1 Year Basic Limited Warranty plus 1 Year Mail-in Service
No UPEKM ® Fingerprint Reader
No Anti-Virus/ Security Software

[zoolander]

Just looked at the dell site and their vostro 1510 looks like a good configuration for $579, I added a 6 cell battery to make it $629. What does everyone think? The processor looks better?

Specs:

Intel® Core™ 2 Duo T5670 (1.8GHz, 2MB L2 Cache, 800MHz FSB)
Genuine Windows Vista® Home Basic, Service Pack 1
No Productivity Software
15.4 inch Widescreen WXGA LCD Anti-Glare Display
No Webcam, No Digital Camera Microphone Option
3GB Shared Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 667MHz, 2 DIMM
160G 5400RPM SATA Hard Drive
Intel® Integrated Graphics Media Accelerator X3100
8X DVD+/-RW with double-layer DVD+/-R write capability, with Roxio Creator
Dell Wireless 1395 802.11g Wi-Fi Internal Card
6-cell Lithium Ion Primary Battery

Essentials
1 Year Basic Limited Warranty plus 1 Year Mail-in Service
No UPEKM ® Fingerprint Reader
No Anti-Virus/ Security Software

Doesn't the Vostro lack HDMI out, that the Studio series and this HP has? You might want that if ever connecting to a flatscreen TV.

[bender2k]

How far can you open the screen? Does it go upto 180 degrees just like ThinkPads?

It opens to around 150 degrees.

[Colin0317]

anyone have a picture of the laptop?

[bender2k]

anyone have a picture of the laptop?

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/3240/pict0133h.jpg

[stuartlittle]

Great deal! Thanks

[fooit]

What's the resolution of the screen?

[bender2k]

What's the resolution of the screen?

1366x768 HD

[mzd369]

Just looked at the dell site and their vostro 1510 looks like a good configuration for $579, I added a 6 cell battery to make it $629. What does everyone think? The processor looks better?

Specs:

Intel® Core™ 2 Duo T5670 (1.8GHz, 2MB L2 Cache, 800MHz FSB)
Genuine Windows Vista® Home Basic, Service Pack 1
No Productivity Software
15.4 inch Widescreen WXGA LCD Anti-Glare Display
No Webcam, No Digital Camera Microphone Option
3GB Shared Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 667MHz, 2 DIMM
160G 5400RPM SATA Hard Drive
Intel® Integrated Graphics Media Accelerator X3100
8X DVD+/-RW with double-layer DVD+/-R write capability, with Roxio Creator
Dell Wireless 1395 802.11g Wi-Fi Internal Card
6-cell Lithium Ion Primary Battery

Essentials
1 Year Basic Limited Warranty plus 1 Year Mail-in Service
No UPEKM ® Fingerprint Reader
No Anti-Virus/ Security Software


1) Not sure the video card (Intel® Integrated Graphics Media Accelerator X3100 ) is good or not?

2)No HDMI

[BlueMax]

1) Not sure the video card (Intel® Integrated Graphics Media Accelerator X3100 ) is good or not?

2)No HDMI

The X3100 sucks in comparison. Period.

This deal is better than the Dell.

[Colin0317]

does this have the glowing hp logo on the lid? Also is the lid glossy? Thanks for the picture!

[CoW_CoUnTrY]

What is the weight of this monster?
It looks too large to be carrying around often.

[fooit]

What is the weight of this monster?

From HP website (http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01647073&cc=ca&dlc=en&lc=en&jumpid=reg_R1002_CAEN)
6.52 pounds = 2.96 kilograms

It looks too large to be carrying around often.
Maybe you shouldn't look at 16" laptops then - there are smaller laptops 15.4", 14.1", 13.3", etc downto 8.9" netbooks.

[TeriyakiJack]

I really hope this isn't a make or break factor for you. AFAIK, i don't think the G60's have a glowing HP logo. so far i've only seen those on the DV series.


does this have the glowing hp logo on the lid? Also is the lid glossy? Thanks for the picture!

[kalachakraa]

does this have the glowing hp logo on the lid? Also is the lid glossy? Thanks for the picture!

No glow but the lid is glossy. A slightly more relevant question is "How is the wifi reception" and the answer is "it appears to suck". Tomorrow I'm going to put it sided by side with an old tablet I've used at a cafe. If it still doesn't get a wireless signal and the tablet does it's going back to Walmart pronto. Grrrr.

[hello99]

No glow but the lid is glossy. A slightly more relevant question is "How is the wifi reception" and the answer is "it appears to suck". Tomorrow I'm going to put it sided by side with an old tablet I've used at a cafe. If it still doesn't get a wireless signal and the tablet does it's going back to Walmart pronto. Grrrr.

Please let me know how it goes.

There is also an HP at staples which has a better processor, less hard drive space, intel integrated graphics card and wireless N for $649 but you can use a $50 off staples coupon to make the price the same.

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=718977&page=1

[fooit]

Please let me know how it goes.

There is also an HP at staples which has a better processor, less hard drive space, intel integrated graphics card and wireless N for $649 but you can use a $50 off staples coupon to make the price the same.

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=718977&page=1

Same HDD.

[jt4572]

I saw this laptop in the FS flyer and not sure if it is any better than the Wal-Mart computer (no hdmi but wireless N & T3400 processor)??

http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0665000FS10118249&catid=25315

Toshiba L300-OH9--$ 599
Processor Type Intel Pentium Dual-Core T3400
RAM 3GB
Hard Drive Speed/Capacity 250GB 5400RPM
Optical Drive 8X DVD+/-RW DL
Processor Speed 2.16GHz
Approximate Battery Life Up To 3 Hours
Screen Size 15.4"
Graphics Chipset Mobile Intel GMA 4500M
Integrated Video Memory Yes
Native Screen Resolution 1280 x 800
HDMI Port No
Webcam YES
Integrated WiFi 802.11 b/g/n
Power
Battery - Capacity 4000mAh
Battery - Number of Cells 6-Cell
Battery Type Lithium-Ion
Notebook Weight (including Battery) 2.49 kg

[look30]

I saw this laptop in the FS flyer and not sure if it is any better than the Wal-Mart computer (no hdmi but wireless N & T3400 processor)??

[

If you're "not sure" why bother posting ?

FYI they're not even on the same street....

[jt4572]

If you're "not sure" why bother posting ?

FYI they're not even on the same street....

I'd rather post a possible deal than not........I'll stick with the WM buy..Thx.

[tyfriend]

My local WM didn't have it. Wahh

[xcel]

Which one is better? WM or Staples

Staples specs:
HP G60-230CA Laptop $649.99 (after coupon $600)
2.00GHz Intel Pentium Dual-Core Mobile Processor T4200
3GB DDR2 System Memory (expandable to 4GB)
250GB 5400 RPM Hard Drive
LightScribe SuperMulti 8X DVD±R/RW with Double Layer Support
Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 4500M
16.0" Diagonal High Definition HP BrightView Display (1366 x 768)
Integrated 10/100 Ethernet LAN
High speed 56k modem
802.11a/b/g/n WLAN
Altec Lansing speakers
Ports: 5-in-1 integrated Digital Media Reader for Secure Digital cards, MultiMedia cards, Memory Stick, Memory Stick Pro, or xD Picture cards; 3 Universal Serial Bus (USB) 2.0; 1 Headphone out; 1 microphone-in; 1 HDMI; 1 VGA (15-pin); 1 RJ-11 (modem); 1 RJ -45 (LAN)
Windows Vista Home Premium
Software included: Symantec Norton Internet Security 2009 (including 60 days complimentary live update); HP Help and Support Center; HP Recovery Manager; HP Home Network Center; HP Total Care Advisor; HP DVD Play (14); Muvee Reveal; Cyberlink DVD Suite; Adobe Acrobat Reader; HP Games Powered by Wild Tangent; Microsoft Works; Microsoft Office 2007 Home and Student Edition: 60 Day Trial Version; HP Total Care Set Up; Microsoft Internet Explorer
14.88"(L) x 9.9"(D) x 13.8"(min H) -1.72" (max H)
6.57lbs
1-Year Manufacturer Warranty.

[zoolander]

:arrowu: Internal miniPCI 802.11n is better than attaching a wireless n USB or external card to the Walmart one later. Using the proper filters and wireless n means stutter free 720p/1080p streaming off your desktop/HTPC/server at home and frees up storage on your laptop.

[akky]

any Walmarts in toronto or markham area selling this?

[ovexi]

for whoever missed this Walmart deal, there is a similar priced and featured laptop at BestBuy (http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0926INGFS10118245&catid=26955#) except it comes with Vista Home Basic instead of Premium. The laptop is on the last page of Bestbuy current flyer.

[mzd369]

for whoever missed this Walmart deal, there is a similar priced and featured laptop at BestBuy (http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0926INGFS10118245&catid=26955#) except it comes with Vista Home Basic instead of Premium. The laptop is on the last page of Bestbuy current flyer.

No IEEE 1394 Input/Output

[be_man36]

You are right about the processor specs - Walmart's numbers are wrong. By the way I drove from Toronto to Milton to buy the last one yesterday afternoon.

I'm not sure if it was worth it - Vista is such junk that I can hardly wait to get rid of it, and I don't want to make my mind up about it until then. Nonetheless the only thing I've done is replace Norton Antivirus with Avira, and download Firefox and VLC player. Today eventlog is showing 3 system errors, 3 application errors and 4 security audit failures ON STARTUP. On an essentially virgin Vista install. (One of the errors is Norton antivirus trying to start, even though the very first thing I did was a complete uninstall of Norton.) It's a bit like driving a new car home from the dealership and having to get out at every intersection to pick up the pieces that have fallen off. Goodbye Vista, hello dual boot XP and Windows 7.

Finally, I haven't setup the video but out of the box playing full screen flash is very, very slow and jumpy - unwatchable really. I'm hoping I can tweak it and I'd appreciate any hints. I'd say if you want a HD media player you should spend more money, except that's not a guarantee of good performance either.


why are you trashing Vista? I have dual boot win 7 & vista and they run FLAWLESSLY on my HP dv5! I've never once had any problems in vista regarding compatibility, drivers, or hardware! I don't get why so many people are hating and having trouble with Vista? I luv it and looks awesome! and win 7 is fantastic! but I am starting to have trouble with the last build.

damn I missed the boat on this deal, my son needs a new lappy and this would've been perfect for him!

[ovexi]

why are you trashing Vista? I have dual boot win 7 & vista and they run FLAWLESSLY on my HP dv5! I've never once had any problems in vista regarding compatibility, drivers, or hardware! I don't get why so many people are hating and having trouble with Vista? I luv it and looks awesome! and win 7 is fantastic! but I am starting to have trouble with the last build.

damn I missed the boat on this deal, my son needs a new lappy and this would've been perfect for him!
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[kalachakraa]

why are you trashing Vista? I have dual boot win 7 & vista and they run FLAWLESSLY on my HP dv5! I've never once had any problems in vista regarding compatibility, drivers, or hardware! I don't get why so many people are hating and having trouble with Vista? I luv it and looks awesome!

I suppose it's an aesthetic thing more than anything else...as you say "it looks awesome" but in terms of functionality it's like a lobotomized XP. This is my reaction after two weeks of struggling with endless nags to let Vista automatically update (I only give open-source software this kind of freedom), poor wireless networking interfaces, no backwards compatibility (for example with Palm software) and tweaking all the settings as far back to XP as I have time for. I've had a PC continuously since 1981, and I've gone through more OS's than I can recall (Apple, MS, Linux and even an Osbourne if anyone can remember that far back) but this is the first upgrade that's felt like a step backwards in terms of configuration, functionality and control. (Oh wait, I've forgotten Windows ME, my bad.) Plus it's HUGE! -- I know, memory doesn't cost anything anymore, but this stinks of sloppy design. It's ****, but "it looks awesome" is exactly why I hate it.

I haven't tried Windows 7 yet but I've heard good things about it. If it goes well I think Vista will vanish from our lives and we'll never speak of it again. If it goes badly I'm looking forward to a better world with only free, open source operating systems from now on.

[teamcanada]

I have this computer; Got it during Futureshop's back to school sale for 499 and I love it. I think mine may be a little faster than what is listed here, but it works marvelously, good buy for anyone who needs a laptop.

[be_man36]

I suppose it's an aesthetic thing more than anything else...as you say "it looks awesome" but in terms of functionality it's like a lobotomized XP. This is my reaction after two weeks of struggling with endless nags to let Vista automatically update (I only give open-source software this kind of freedom), poor wireless networking interfaces, no backwards compatibility (for example with Palm software) and tweaking all the settings as far back to XP as I have time for. I've had a PC continuously since 1981, and I've gone through more OS's than I can recall (Apple, MS, Linux and even an Osbourne if anyone can remember that far back) but this is the first upgrade that's felt like a step backwards in terms of configuration, functionality and control. (Oh wait, I've forgotten Windows ME, my bad.) Plus it's HUGE! -- I know, memory doesn't cost anything anymore, but this stinks of sloppy design. It's ****, but "it looks awesome" is exactly why I hate it.

I haven't tried Windows 7 yet but I've heard good things about it. If it goes well I think Vista will vanish from our lives and we'll never speak of it again. If it goes badly I'm looking forward to a better world with only free, open source operating systems from now on.

palm isn't "backward compatibility" and I use programs & games that supposed to run in windows 98 (thats backward compatibility) I've installed in my vista and it runs flawless...and as for memory hog? sure its a hog but thats why we have dual core cpu's and more ram (and cheap) the computers nowadays can handle it easily and if not then you can set it lower. and U gotta try win 7 its sweet! nuff said!

[TupperWoo]

I suppose it's an aesthetic thing more than anything else...as you say "it looks awesome" but in terms of functionality it's like a lobotomized XP.

:confused:

Vista IS labotomized, that's why it asks you 10 000 stupid questions all day long

Ahhh .... nice to look at but dumb as a doorknob ... nah, we won't go there :twisted:

[be_man36]

:confused:

Vista IS labotomized, that's why it asks you 10 000 stupid questions all day long

Ahhh .... nice to look at but dumb as a doorknob ... nah, we won't go there :twisted:

funny I don't get asked 10,000 questions a day, are U referring to UAC? there is a way to set that up so U don't get asked so many times look on the internet for tweek guids instead of looking at porn! LOL , and ya I have to update maybe once a month, in the beginning it was alot BEFORE SP1 but now I haven't been asked to update for 2 months now!!

[friend20013]

I phoned my local Walmart & the $599.99 is the regular price. I want to know if this is a good laptop to buy for my first laptop.

[nedjel]

How does this WM deal HP compare to Gateway at BB for $599?
15’ screen true HD 16:9, Intel Dual Core processor, 4GB RAM, large HD, web cam, wireless N, HDMI out, Vista Premium 64- bit.

http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/prodde...66&catid=28239

Product Details
Web Code: 10118166
Mfr. Part Number: LX.W700X.020

Base Features
Approximate Battery Life
Approx. 3 Hours
Hard Drive Speed/Capacity
320GB SATA 5400RPM
Optical Drive
8X DVD-Super Multi DL with Labelflash
Processor Speed
2.16GHz
Processor Type
Intel Pentium Dual-Core T3400
RAM
4GB
Screen Size 15.6"

Graphics
Discrete Video Memory
No
Expandable Video Memory
Yes - Up to 1GB
Graphics Chipset
Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 4500M
Integrated Video Memory
Yes
Native Screen Resolution
1366 x 768
Upgradable Video System
No
Video Memory
No

Audio
Audio Chipset
Mobile Intel GM45 Chipset
Audio Output
Stereo
Digital Input
No
Digital Output
No
Hardware Volume Control
Yes
Integrated Amplifier
No
Integrated Microphone
Yes
Microphone Input
Yes
Speaker Wattage
2.0W
Speakers Yes

Inputs/Outputs
Card Reader
Yes
Card Reader - Compatible Memory Types
5-in-1 Card Reader
Composite Output
No
ExpressCard/34 Input
No
ExpressCard/54 Input
Yes
HDCP Compliant
Yes
HDMI Port
Yes
IEEE 1394 Input/Output
No
IR Receiver
No
Number of Touchpad Buttons
5
PC Card Input ExpressCard/54
S-Video Output
No
Type of Keyboard
Bilingual
Type of Modem
V.92
Type of Pointing Device
Touchpad
USB 2.0 4
VGA Output
1
Webcam
Yes

Networking
Ethernet Port
10/100/1000
Integrated Bluetooth
No
Integrated WiFi
802.11b/g/Draft-N Wi-Fi

Power
Battery - Capacity
4400mAh
Battery - Number of Cells
6-Cells
Battery Type
Lithium-Ion

Computing Features
Processor Cache
1MB L2
System Bus
667MHz

Software
Loaded Software 1 Microsoft Works 9.0
Loaded Software 2 Adobe Reader
Loaded Software 3
Loaded Software 4
Operating System Language
Bilingual - Dual Boot
Pre-loaded Operating System
Windows Vista Home Premium 64-Bit

Accessories
Headphones
No
Remote
No

Product Features
Notebook Depth
38.8 cm
Notebook Thickness (closed)
4.4 cm
Notebook Weight (including Battery)
2.98 kg
Notebook Width
26.5 cm
Warranty Labour 1 Year
Warranty Parts 1 Year

[para_seb]

I just bought one last night at 599$, still looked like the best around for me. I can't stand the 15.4 wide screens to narrow forme. the 16 inch isn't so bad.

[doingdeal]

Sears carry the same model pm ftw.

[zoolander]

Sears carry the same model pm ftw.

Unfortunately, Sears gives the extra 10% of the difference only on major appliances.
http://www.sears.ca/gp/node/n/16397191
So it's a matter of who has the better return policy should you change your mind.

[doingdeal]

My local sears store will price beat by 10% on electronics, computers, and appliance so maybe ymmv for others.